Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 03:14:07PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > This is not what we were discussing. This should be compared with > %bcond_with/%bcond_without, which would looks like this: > > %if 0%{?fedora} > 0 > %bcond_without docs > %bcond_without tests > %endif > > %if 0%{?rhe

Re: F32: System hangs when using mock

On Sunday, April 5, 2020 12:44:38 PM CEST Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 21:37:05 -, Artem Tim wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754807 > > That does look like it. I'll go through the comments and see if I can > help with more info. Note also this bug [1] wher

Re: v4l2loopback kernel module in Fedora?

> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:45 PM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > I don't know enough about RPMFusion packaging. I use RPMFusion, but > haven't looked into the contribution process. In particular, I wonder > if their modules are signed by a key that's already trusted in Fedora. > My guess is not, and then it'

Re: v4l2loopback kernel module in Fedora?

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 03:53, Christopher wrote: > > The previous packaging was on COPR, but it appears abandoned, probably > because it's kind of worthless if it's not signed. And, it's a lot of > manual work to self-sign and register the key with mokutil, and even > more effort to figure out how

Re: v4l2loopback kernel module in Fedora?

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 3:59 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 03:53, Christopher wrote: > > > > The previous packaging was on COPR, but it appears abandoned, probably > > because it's kind of worthless if it's not signed. And, it's a lot of > > manual work to self-sign and register t

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

Dne 04. 04. 20 v 21:02 Aoife Moloney napsal(a): > * rpmautospec 0.0.1 through 0.0.10 have been released and deployed in staging Could somebody please update on the status? What were the proof of concepts, what are takeaways? Was there any decision on the approach and why? Vít _

Re: ChnageReadyForWrangler category

* Ben Cotton: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:16 PM Florian Weimer wrote: >> >> What can I do to fix this? >> > Good question! We had this problem before and didn't come to a good > resolution. I reopened the infra ticket[1] and I'm going to leave the > page alone for now so they can investigate it.

Open NeuroFedora Meeting: 1600 UTC on Tuesday, 7th February

Hello world You are invited to attend the next Open NeuroFedora team meeting this week on Tuesday at 1600UTC in #fedora-neuro on IRC (Freenode): https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fedora-neuro You can convert the meeting time to your local time using: $ date --date='TZ="UTC" 1600 next Tue'

Re: v4l2loopback kernel module in Fedora?

On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 04:40 -0400, Christopher wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 3:59 AM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 03:53, Christopher < > > ctubb...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > The previous packaging was on COPR, but it appears abandoned, > > > probably > > > because it's kin

Re: How to enable package gating

Thank you, I feel really stupid for missing this. (But to my defense, having gating.yaml and tests.yml is quite confusing.) On 2020-04-03 14:49, Lukas Holecek wrote: > Hi Vojtěch, > > The issue is that the file suffix should be `.yaml`, not `.yml`. > > Damn that YAML suffix. It's a hard-to-find

Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

Le lundi 06 avril 2020 à 09:03 +0200, Petr Pisar a écrit : > > # Build an HTML manual with ascidoc > %bcond_without docs > # Perform the tests > %bcond_without tests I feel the above syntax is hopeless. You need boilerplate (in all eln specs!) to explain that foo_without tests means enabling test

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:11 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > I also hope there will be an opportunity for discussion (with input > from the community) of whether those requirements can be fulfilled in > some way *other* than using a non-free Gitlab product. To take the > 'merge train' example - as Ne

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

- Original Message - > From: "Randy Barlow" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 10:35:21 PM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > On 4/4/20 3:02 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > However we do > > recognize that it was still nonetheless a decision that was

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Wednesday, 01 April 2020 at 12:37, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 01. 04. 20 v 10:37 Michal Konecny napsal(a): [...] > > > To be clear, you mean something like app above the dist-git where > > > you could do most of the things that are needed for dist-git w

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:43 AM Randy Barlow wrote: > On 4/3/20 4:41 PM, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > This is how a specific flavour of software development works centered on > > a singular product, with a shared vision. The CPE relationship with > > stakeholders is unique, it's clear the visions are

Corrupt RPM package in Fedora 31 compose: perf-debuginfo-5.5.9-200.fc31.x86_64

Installation fails like this: Running transaction Preparing: 1/1 Installing : perf-debuginfo-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64 1/1 Error unpacking rpm package perf-debuginfo-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64 Verifying: p

Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:03:08AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 03:14:07PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > This is not what we were discussing. This should be compared with > > %bcond_with/%bcond_without, which would looks like this: > > > > %if 0%{?fedora} > 0

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 6:14 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Wednesday, 01 April 2020 at 12:37, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 01. 04. 20 10:53, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 01. 04. 20 v 10:37 Michal Konecny napsal(a): > [...] > > > > To be clear, you mean something like app above the d

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 04. 04. 20 v 21:02 Aoife Moloney napsal(a): > > * rpmautospec 0.0.1 through 0.0.10 have been released and deployed in > > staging > > > Could somebody please update on the status? What were the proof of > concepts, what are ta

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

> > > Yes, this whole "decision" is in dictatorship relation to the community. > > Not following the standard procedures caused that I and probably many > people in the community didn't pay much attention to it. > We followed the procedures that were outlined to us. > > I thought you are simply

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 8:15 PM Jeremy Cline wrote: > Hi Leigh, > > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 17:00 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:20 PM Jeremy Cline > > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 05:38 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 5:29 AM Michal K

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:36 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > On 4/4/20 3:02 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > However we do > > recognize that it was still nonetheless a decision that was not made > > in public, and for that we can only now offer our apologies for this > > mistake and learn a hard lesson from

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:56 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 2:36 PM Randy Barlow > wrote: > > > > On 4/4/20 3:02 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > However we do > > > recognize that it was still nonetheless a decision that was not made > > > in public, and for that we can only now

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Monday, 6 April 2020, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > >> >> >> Yes, this whole "decision" is in dictatorship relation to the community. >> >> Not following the standard procedures caused that I and probably many >> people in the community didn't pay much attention to it. >> > > We followed the pro

Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 11:53:55AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > Le lundi 06 avril 2020 à 09:03 +0200, Petr Pisar a écrit : > > > > # Build an HTML manual with ascidoc > > %bcond_without docs > > # Perform the tests > > %bcond_without tests > > I feel the above syntax is hopeless. You

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On 06. 04. 20 12:13, Leigh Griffin wrote: You certainly didn't engage with the community. We did. Not enough. You did initially but than you've stopped. You repeating "we have made a decision" in various threads over and over is not "engaging with the community", it is the exact opposi

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

On 29. 03. 20 13:13, Miro Hrončok wrote: According to the Fedora's Fails To Build From Source policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/ The following packages will be orphaned on Monday 2020-04-06. Their F32FTBFS Bugzillas are in NEW sta

Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

On 4/6/20 12:53 PM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: Le lundi 06 avril 2020 à 09:03 +0200, Petr Pisar a écrit : # Build an HTML manual with ascidoc %bcond_without docs # Perform the tests %bcond_without tests I feel the above syntax is hopeless. You need boilerplate (in all eln specs!) to exp

Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-04-06)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2020-04-06 15:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be d

Re: Corrupt RPM package in Fedora 31 compose: perf-debuginfo-5.5.9-200.fc31.x86_64

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:14:23PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Installation fails like this: > > Running transaction > Preparing: > 1/1 > Installing : perf-debuginfo-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64 > 1/1 > Error

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

20/4/6 12:29(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > Around 10 tickets a month is the average I believe for infra to deal > with / handle from direct pings. > Where? https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=all&tags=src.fp.o&tags=pagure&priority=0&close_status= lists 50 ticket

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:41, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:36 PM Randy Barlow > wrote: > > > On 4/4/20 3:02 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > However we do > > > recognize that it was still nonetheless a decision that was not made > > > in public, and for that we can only now

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:59, Miro Hrončok wrote: [...] > Orphaned: > pangox-compat I'll take it and try to fix it. It's required for the proprietary Acrobat Reader for Linux. And yes, I know the last version is from 2013 and full of security holes, but it's the only software that can read P

Re: Corrupt RPM package in Fedora 31 compose: perf-debuginfo-5.5.9-200.fc31.x86_64

* Petr Pisar: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:14:23PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Installation fails like this: >> >> Running transaction >> Preparing: >> 1/1 >> Installing : perf-debuginfo-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64

using IPFS in packaging workflow

This is vaguely related to the ongoing discussions about Git Forge but it is not an alternative to that, it could complement that. I've been looking at how upstream tarballs, spec files, SRPMs, binary RPMs and equivalent artifacts for other distributions could be shared through IPFS[1]. Has anyb

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:00 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > [...] > Orphaned: > > audacity > Taken. Will start builds that fix this later today. -Ian ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.f

Re: Current plan: Build python3, python3-libs etc. from python39 SRPM on F33+

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:40 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello Pythonistas. > > (I've CC'ed the devel list for further exposure. But let's discuss this on > python-devel list please to avoid noise.) > > > We would like ro rename the "python3" component (SRPM) to "python39" to make > maintaining v

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:59:40PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 29. 03. 20 13:13, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > According to the Fedora's Fails To Build From Source policy: > > Oprhaning is a easily revertible nondesctructiove action. > > Only packages orphaned for 6+ weeks will be retired (removed f

Orphaned libvtemm

Hi, I orphaned libvtemm package. Currently Haïkel Guémar is a co-maintainer. I advise against claiming the ownership of this package. It's old and unmaintained. Nothing depends on it, AFAIK. I assume that the package will be retired automatically at some point. Cheers, Krzesimir ___

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200406.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: %bcond_with/%bcond_without

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:03 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > The dist-bound conditional should be specified outside the spec file, > preferably on a distribution-level. E.g. RHEL decides that it does not > want to distribute a documentation, then it defines "%_without_docs 1" in > srpm > build root macro

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

On 06. 04. 20 14:08, Till Maas wrote: The orphaned packages still contain their previous co-maintainers. It seems to me to make sense to remove them from the packages as well to clarify who is really maintaining a package. Since the packages were already in FTBFS for quite some time, there was en

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

- Original Message - > From: "Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 7:09:38 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:41, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:36 PM Randy Barlow > >

Self Introdction: nick black

(i don't see any of these posts thus far in 2020, so perhaps they've fallen out of vogue? i'm merely blindly complying with the instructions at [0]). hello there in RPM land! i'm a longtime linux user/developer. my first Linux install was RedHat 5.1 in the summer of 1998, and i've been Free ever

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson > > $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that meets the > "requirements")... 2339 packages in FAS... so $233900 * 12 works out to > roughly $3 million per year just for Fedora, assuming we never let > anybody other than approve

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On 06. 04. 20 14:19, Alex Scheel wrote: That part isn't actually clear to me. There's certainly a vocal portion against using GitLab I think it's hard to see who's vocal against GitLab and who just wants a truly open decision process for this. I've heard people who would love to get GitLab,

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 13:44 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know > for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper > reason: > https://fedora

Re: Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-04-06)

On 06. 04. 20 13:04, Petr Šabata wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at https://pagure.io/

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson > > > > > $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that meets the > > "requirements")... 2339 packages in FAS... so $233900 * 12 works out to > > roughly $3 million per year j

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

Hello! On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 7:21 AM Nick Black wrote: > (i don't see any of these posts thus far in 2020, so perhaps > they've fallen out of vogue? i'm merely blindly complying with > the instructions at [0]). > > hello there in RPM land! i'm a longtime linux user/developer. > my first Linux

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

- Original Message - > From: "Miro Hrončok" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:28:15 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > On 06. 04. 20 14:19, Alex Scheel wrote: > > That part isn't actually clear to me. There's certainly a vocal portion > > agains

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

Dne 06. 04. 20 v 12:29 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 11:09:37AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 04. 04. 20 v 21:02 Aoife Moloney napsal(a): >>> * rpmautospec 0.0.1 through 0.0.10 have been released and deployed in >>> staging >> >> Could somebody please update on the st

Re: Corrupt RPM package in Fedora 31 compose: perf-debuginfo-5.5.9-200.fc31.x86_64

On 4/6/20 2:06 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:14:23PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Installation fails like this: Running transaction Preparing: 1/1 Installing : perf-debuginfo-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski wrote: > > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project isn't suddenly being > removed from the internet. Is there a reason you can't contribute to > it to add the features you need? I can add features, sure, and I do, but I am also not able or

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

Richard Shaw left as an exercise for the reader: > So the only problem I see is that notcurses depends on ffmpeg, which is not > allowed in Fedora. I see it's technically "optional", but I wonder about > the usefulness of the resultant package without it. ooh, I was unaware of this. FFmpeg is only

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:42 AM Stasiek Michalski wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski > > > > > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project isn't suddenly being > > removed from the internet. Is there a reason you can't contribute to > > it to add the features you need

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:42 AM Stasiek Michalski wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski > > > > > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project isn't suddenly being > > removed from the internet. Is there a reason you can't contribute to > > it to add the features you need

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 7:46 AM Nick Black wrote: > Richard Shaw left as an exercise for the reader: > > So the only problem I see is that notcurses depends on ffmpeg, which is > not > > allowed in Fedora. I see it's technically "optional", but I wonder about > > the usefulness of the resultant pa

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:20:47AM -0400, Nick Black wrote: > hello there in RPM land! i'm a longtime linux user/developer. > my first Linux install was RedHat 5.1 in the summer of 1998, > and i've been Free ever since. Hey hey, it's a small world. :) - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

Richard Shaw left as an exercise for the reader: > Up to you which way to go... I don't see packaging it in RPM Fusion as a > problem. I would think most people who would be interested in this package > would likely not have a problem enabling RPM Fusion. So, if you've seen the demo, that's not re

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 02:14:01PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 06. 04. 20 14:08, Till Maas wrote: > >The orphaned packages still contain their previous co-maintainers. It > >seems to me to make sense to remove them from the packages as well to > >clarify who is really maintaining a package. Sin

Re: Corrupt RPM package in Fedora 31 compose: perf-debuginfo-5.5.9-200.fc31.x86_64

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 07:07, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:14:23PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Installation fails like this: > > > > Running transaction > > Preparing: >1/1 > > Installing : perf-debuginfo-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64 >1/1 > > Error unpack

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

Le lundi 06 avril 2020 à 08:19 -0400, Alex Scheel a écrit : > > It'd be interesting to see if the FESCo election system could be > repurposed to get a sense of all packagers' opinions, rather than > make assumptions on how the community as a whole feels based on a few > vocal members and their par

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:42 AM Stasiek Michalski wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski > > > > > > > > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project isn't suddenly being > > > removed from the internet. Is there a

Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

Hi All, Please urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel before shipping Fedora 32 and spare users some pain. At least two very recent crash/segfault reports are fixed by downgrading to the fc31 version of xorg-x11-drv-intel. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1820815 https://bugzilla.redhat

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:00 PM Miro Hrončok > > Taken. Will start builds that fix this later today. > > -Ian You could try https://pkgs.rpmfusion.org/cgit/free/audacity-freeworld.git/tree/Fix-gcc-10-compile-issue.patch ___ devel mailing list -- de

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:29, Leigh Griffin wrote: [...] > > Yes, this whole "decision" is in dictatorship relation to the > > community. > > > > Not following the standard procedures caused that I and probably > > many people in the community didn't pay much attention to it. > > We followed

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

- Original Message - > From: "Nicolas Mailhot via devel" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Nicolas Mailhot" > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:10:56 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > Le lundi 06 avril 2020 à 08:19 -0400, Alex Scheel a écrit : > > > > I

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 5:08 pm, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: It is reasonable to provide a pull request to fix potential issues with ELN. What is not reasonable, is to impose a time limit and also expect the maintainers to follow up with that. If allowing the ELN maintainers to fix build fail

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:34:07AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project isn't suddenly being > removed from the internet. Is there a reason you can't contribute to > it to add the features you need? From my experience, I know that many of my contributions are t

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

- Original Message - > From: "Michael Catanzaro" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:37:34 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose > V3 > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 5:08 pm, Charalampos Stratakis

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

On 06. 04. 20 15:37, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 5:08 pm, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: It is reasonable to provide a pull request to fix potential issues with ELN. What is not reasonable, is to impose a time limit and also expect the maintainers to follow up with that. I

Fedora 32 Final Freeze

Hi all, Tomorrow, April 7th 2020, is an important day on the Fedora 32 schedule [1], with significant cut-offs. Tomorrow we have the Final Freeze [2] which starts at 14:00 UTC. This means that only packages which fix accepted blocker or freeze exception bugs [3][4][5] will be marked as 'stable' a

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:36 AM Alex Scheel wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Nicolas Mailhot via devel" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > Cc: "Nicolas Mailhot" > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:10:56 AM > > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > > >

Re: Fedora 32 Final Freeze

On 06. 04. 20 15:36, Mohan Boddu wrote: Hi all, Tomorrow, April 7th 2020, is an important day on the Fedora 32 schedule [1], with significant cut-offs. Tomorrow we have the Final Freeze [2] which starts at 14:00 UTC. This means that only packages which fix accepted blocker or freeze exception b

Orphaning package procedure. (icewm, spring, springlobby)

Hello, Due to the extreme time constraints that I'm forced to orphan most of my remaining packages. Namely icewm (which has an active co-maintainer), spring and springlobby. Following the procedure in wiki [1], I should use Pagure to orphan both packages. However, the list of projects in the Pagur

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:43 AM Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael Catanzaro" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:37:34 PM > > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:27:58AM -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: > Hi All, > > Please urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel before shipping Fedora 32 and > spare users some pain. At least two very recent crash/segfault reports are > fixed by downgrading to the fc31 version of xorg-x11-drv-in

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On 4/6/20 6:13 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: CPE is entirely unique in this industry and is not perfectly aligned to the idealistic software engineering process, we are getting there. No software team is perfectly aligned to the idealistic software engineering process. CPE is not unique in that eithe

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:49:13 -0400, rosser@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:36 AM Alex Scheel wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > I believe we need a different way to engage the rest of our packager > > base. > > I'm a packager who has been staying silent, but I generally strongly >

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

- Original Message - > From: "Ben Rosser" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:49:13 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :-) > Not saying you're wrong that it would be nice to have the ability to >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On 4/6/20 6:37 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: I'm sorry if you took my mail up as implying a lack of value from how the team historically worked. It's a classic no-no to start an apology with "I'm sorry *if you*". It's not an apology at all, it's a defense disguised as an apology. It is thus dishon

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On 4/6/20 6:41 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: We are engaged with the Fedora Council on the next steps here for the adoption of Gitlab / the retirement of Pagure from the CPE remit. That much of the decision has been made, the actual specifics are what we are engaging on to make sure that the Fedora

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

Dne 06. 04. 20 v 14:34 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson >>> >> >>> $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that meets the >>> "requirements")... 2339 packages in FAS... so $233900 * 12

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On 4/6/20 8:28 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: I think it's hard to see who's vocal against GitLab and who just wants a truly open decision process for this. I've heard people who would love to get GitLab, but who are genuinely sad about how CPE management handled this. This. I personally actually l

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

> > Hi All, > > > > Please urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel before shipping Fedora 32 and > > spare users some pain. At least two very recent crash/segfault reports are > > fixed by downgrading to the fc31 version of xorg-x11-drv-intel. > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18208

Re: Updating MUMPS/Sundials/PETSc

On 4/5/20 6:06 PM, Antonio Trande wrote: > On 04/04/20 19:23, David S wrote: >> On 4/4/20 4:38 PM, Antonio Trande wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> >>> `MUMPS-5.3.0` [1] `PETSc-3.13.0` [2] and `Sundials-5.2.0` [3] are coming >>> on Rawhide; these updates will need rebuilds of dependent packages: >>> >> [:snip

Self Introduction: Nadav Har'El

Hi, my name is Nadav Har'El. I'm here because I noticed that the "python-cassandra-driver" driver was orphaned. When asking to adopt it, I was told (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9365) that because this package had already been orphaned five months earlier, I should become a packager and initiate

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:15 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 06. 04. 20 v 14:34 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski > > wrote: > >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson > >>> >>> > >>> $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that m

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:35:58AM -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > That isn't indicative of the entire Fedora packager ecosystem. A lot of > people are staying silent. Do you really want/expect 300 folks to chime in with "+1" replies? Speaking for myself, Neal and Adam (and others) have already expre

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:56 AM clime wrote: > > > On Monday, 6 April 2020, Leigh Griffin wrote: > >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, this whole "decision" is in dictatorship relation to the community. >>> >>> Not following the standard procedures caused that I and probably many >>> people in the commun

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:59 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 06. 04. 20 12:13, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > You certainly didn't engage with the community. > > > > > > We did. > > Not enough. You did initially but than you've stopped. You repeating "we > have > made a decision" in various threads

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:10 PM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > 20/4/6 12:29(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > Around 10 tickets a month is the average I believe for infra to deal > > with / handle from direct pings. > > > Where? > Infra queue

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:20 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1820815 > > > > > Are they? We stopped using intel driver around F26, we use > > modesetting for Intel GPUs now. The above is clearly non-default > > configuratiob. > > I thought that was on

Need help with getting packager permissions to bugzilla account

Hi, I was sponsored to the packager group last year (FAS account korkeala), that time I had an old bugzilla account which I used. Now that I tried to do my first review, but it seems that I did not have privileges to assign the review request to myself. I check that I did not have any bugzilla

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

Le 20-04-06 à 10 h 04, Tomasz Torcz a écrit : On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:27:58AM -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: Are they? We stopped using intel driver around F26, we use modesetting for Intel GPUs now. The above is clearly non-default configuratiob. I am far from an expert on the subj

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:14 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Josh Boyer > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:42 AM Stasiek Michalski > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski > > > > > > > > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project is

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

I have take the following: > rubygem-addressable > rubygem-ruby_parser > rubygem-ruby2ruby > rubygem-websocket > Vít ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Co

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On 4/6/20 10:36 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: Answering 100+ replies individually is engaging with the community. Happy to stop that if people aren't seeing the benefit of it though. Writing 100 e-mails isn't automatically "engagement". I could reply to what you wrote above with "If I had a world o

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