01.09.2020 23:39, TEC wrote:
Maxim Nikulin writes:
Installation page
I am uncertain if it is applicable for other editors, but I would
like to see name of vim plugin since ambiguity (or matter of taste)
exists.. FAQ suggests other vim plugins. I do not remember if I saw
vim-outliner
Tom Gillespie writes:
> Hi Timothy,
> Based on the available relationships Org mode is almost certainly
> a https://schema.org/SoftwareApplication that is a
> https://schema.org/softwareAddOn of https://emacs.org as well is in
> https://schema.org/applicationSuite https://emacs.org. There
Hi Timothy,
Based on the available relationships Org mode is almost certainly
a https://schema.org/SoftwareApplication that is a
https://schema.org/softwareAddOn of https://emacs.org as well is in
https://schema.org/applicationSuite https://emacs.org. There are a
number of other properties
Hi all,
I've taken a little look at improving how Org is seen/searched around
the web. We currently have open graph and twitter meta tags, and I've
now see that we should be able to improve our search result too.
Looking at
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/search-gallery this
Colin Baxter writes:
This look really nice - simple but comprehensive and very
readable.
Thank you for your kind words :)
There is a slight issue with your link
"javascript:show_org_source()" in
that it wont load of course in non-js browsers such as eww and
emacs-w3m.
Ah, yes. This is
Dear Timothy,
> TEC writes:
> Hello everyone :)
> The end is now in sight! Other than the somewhat bare index page,
> I feel that we're nearing complete coverage of the current site
> (at least all the 'main' pages).
> If you haven't already please give my revamp
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 11:37, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Timothy,
>
> TEC writes:
>
> > If you haven't already please give my revamp project a look:
> > http://orgmode.tecosaur.com, and let me know if you've got any feedback
> > or suggestions.
>
> Sorry for being so late in commenting but here are my
Hi Timothy,
TEC writes:
> If you haven't already please give my revamp project a look:
> http://orgmode.tecosaur.com, and let me know if you've got any feedback
> or suggestions.
thanks again for this work. I prioritize the release of 9.4 but I
will have a close look at your proposal
Tom Gillespie writes:
> Oop, one other thing. There is no obvious way back when clicking view
> source, and the button disappears out from under the mouse which is
> quite annoying. Is it possible to retain the header so that one can
> toggle the view of the main page and the source simply by
Hi Tom,
Thanks for your emails, they're most helpful!
I'll respond to them one at a time.
Tom Gillespie writes:
> When the dimensions of the browser window become too narrow the links in
> the header move to the hamburger menu. This seems like it is quite bad
> for discoverability. Is there
Oop, one other thing. There is no obvious way back when clicking view
source, and the button disappears out from under the mouse which is
quite annoying. Is it possible to retain the header so that one can
toggle the view of the main page and the source simply by repeatedly
clicking/tapping? Best,
Hi Timothy,
Thank you for all your work on this! A couple of suggestions. When
the dimensions of the browser window become too narrow the links in
the header move to the hamburger menu. This seems like it is quite bad
for discoverability. Is there a way that the other sections could be
Hello everyone :)
The end is now in sight! Other than the somewhat bare index page, I feel
that we're nearing complete coverage of the current site (at least all
the 'main' pages).
If you haven't already please give my revamp project a look:
http://orgmode.tecosaur.com, and let me know if
Maxim Nikulin writes:
I do not know how much work is required to update animated
images.
Maybe someone will give better ideas, so do not hurry.
I'll store a link to this email for when I have time to revisit
this :)
- Publishing. Something wrong with HTML export of the LaTeX
macro,
24.08.2020 14:43, TEC wrote:
Here's my overview of the current state of affairs
+ done :: nicer overall theme + done :: make site work on a variety of
form-factors + done :: nice features page (with animations!) + done ::
prettier home page + done :: new "install" page + todo :: content for
TEC writes:
Oh my. I just checked that out and it looks ridiculous. I seem
to have accidentally messed with the mobile styling at some
point, should be easy to get it to behave sensibly again though.
Please give this another look now, it should be better.
There is something wrong with
Maxim Nikulin writes:
I have tried adaptive design tool in firefox. Currently I would
rather complain concerning the size of the unicorn logo. It
consumes whole screen when emulation of a phone and landscape
orientation is selected. I expect more informative greeting.
Oh my. I just
24.08.2020 14:43, TEC wrote:
I have performed debuzzwordification on the header, and implemented the
compacted design prototyped previously. I expect Maxim will likely still
think the font-size is too big, but I somewhat like it as it currently
is :P
I have tried adaptive design tool in
04.08.2020 13:27, TEC wrote:
Eric S Fraga writes:
I do like the animated images in the features page!
Glad you like them! I recently converted the static images to SVGs with
the help of someone using Emacs27 w/ Cairo, would be nice go do
something like an animated SVG in the future, but
Hello!
Not much has changed since my last message, other than me becoming
fairly busy :(
I have performed debuzzwordification on the header, and
implemented the compacted design prototyped previously. I expect
Maxim will likely still think the font-size is too big, but I
somewhat like it
04.08.2020 22:53, TEC wrote:
>
> I love the idea of a demo org file! If anyone would like to help out with
> creating one by sending in contenders / snippets that would be brilliant!
>
> Even better - having two or three different demo files based on the use case
> of
> the new user - e.g.
TEC writes:
Colin Baxter writes:
TEC writes:
- The site is now more mobile friendly, the navbar now has a
Why? How many users are installing org-mode on their 'phones -
smart or
otherwise?
Zero, I expect :P
There's at least one. :)
(This message coming to you from Gnus (and
Once again, thanks for the detailed response :)
Maxim Nikulin writes:
- innovative :: does 'new' and exciting things that similar
products don't
This is the most "offensive" word for me. Minor issue is that
2003 means 17 years ago, not new, but really I consider the age
as an
05.08.2020 19:03, TEC wrote:
Maxim Nikulin writes:
Sorry, but "An innovative and intuitive plain text markup syntax" means nothing
to me. "Created by Carsten Dominik in 2003" is a sign of mature and stable
enough software without disgusting "since ..." but contradicts a bit with
"innovative".
Maxim Nikulin writes: -- lots of stuff --
Since we're talking about newcomers now, I think there are 2c I
can share.
- I started sliding down the Emacs slope early this year My
- initial use case was Org, as a replacement of Jupyter (I want an
- editor,
not a fancy web page)
- I use
05.08.2020 04:43, Bo Grimes wrote:
best advice I found [1], and I did so by backing up my entire emacs.d
and then deleting all .elc files. This worked. I've no understanding of
the underlying technicalities, and I'm pretty sure I had never heard of
byte-compiled files (except in the most
Thanks for stepping through your thoughts in such detail.
I really appreciate it :)
Maxim Nikulin writes:
> On a phone I would expect to see something like
>
> Org mode for GNU Emacs
>
> - Keeping notes
> - maintaining TODO lists
> - planning projects
> - authoring documents
>
> with a fast
04.08.2020 22:53, TEC wrote:
Please, share your thoughts!
It is just opinion, I am unsure even that all suggestions are consistent
or reachable with reasonable efforts. Since it is you who actually is
doing the work, it is your right to choose which arguments should be
ignored.
On a
I feel like this may be where I need to jump in with:
*cough, off-topic
;)
Bo Grimes writes:
> On 8/5/20 6:26 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>>Org mode on the move is brilliant to have.
>
> Agree! However, because I too find screen keyboards "very annoying" and small
> screens even more so,
On Wednesday, 5 Aug 2020 at 06:17, Bo Grimes wrote:
> On 8/4/20 1:54 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>> On Monday, 3 Aug 2020 at 10:03, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>> Emacs should run fine on PostmarketOS [1] [2]. Thus Org, too.
>> Emacs runs perfectly fine on Android via termux and org works as well (as
On 8/5/20 6:26 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
Org mode on the move is brilliant to have.
Agree! However, because I too find screen keyboards "very annoying" and
small screens even more so, my use of Org on the move is limited to
Orgzly--which is a wonderful app, but I have only one file I use,
On 8/4/20 1:54 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
On Monday, 3 Aug 2020 at 10:03, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
Emacs should run fine on PostmarketOS [1] [2]. Thus Org, too.
Emacs runs perfectly fine on Android via termux and org works as well (as does
gnus!).
But the issue is the keyboard.
Have you
On 8/4/20 11:48 AM, Maxim Nikulin wrote:
As to installation, I believe that org-mode bundled with Emacs is more
than enough for first try. It is a shorter path to become familiar
with most prominent features just to start editing of an .org file (or
to download a prepared demo .org). Getting
Your website update is looking great!
A couple of comments:
- If materials are presented that are not relatively recent, it may
indicate to potential users a lack of project vitality.
- Because so many people these days are enticed by videos, I wonder if
links to a few selected, engaging videos
Right; shrink the banner.
I meant to say "smaller" rather than "small".
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:26 PM TEC wrote:
>
>
> Bruce D'Arcus writes:
>
> > On a large monitor, there's so much space that I think the features
> > content would best fit underneath a small banner.
>
> Shrink the banner.
Bruce D'Arcus writes:
> On a large monitor, there's so much space that I think the features
> content would best fit underneath a small banner.
Shrink the banner. Right - that sounds like something to try!
I messed with the CSS a little using browser devtools (with one or two
unintended
On a large monitor, there's so much space that I think the features
content would best fit underneath a small banner.
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:12 PM TEC wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the feedback!
>
> Maxim Nikulin writes:
>
> > 03.08.2020 12:11, TEC wrote:
> >>
> >> To see how orgmode.org currently
Bruce D'Arcus writes:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:50 AM Maxim Nikulin wrote:
>
>> It seems that new variant is too mobile-centric. On a 24in monitor I
>> expect something more than just a banner.
>
> I agree; it looked odd when I opened it on this 27-inch monitor.
Hmm. Sounds like this
Thanks for the feedback!
Maxim Nikulin writes:
03.08.2020 12:11, TEC wrote:
To see how orgmode.org currently appears, see
https://i.imgur.com/XPFfBaB.png
Sorry for negative (and maybe discouraging) feedback. I would
not mind if you just skip my complains since I am not a
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:50 AM Maxim Nikulin wrote:
> It seems that new variant is too mobile-centric. On a 24in monitor I
> expect something more than just a banner.
I agree; it looked odd when I opened it on this 27-inch monitor.
03.08.2020 12:11, TEC wrote:
To see how orgmode.org currently appears, see
https://i.imgur.com/XPFfBaB.png
Sorry for negative (and maybe discouraging) feedback. I would not mind
if you just skip my complains since I am not a contributor to org-mode.
Concerning the screenshot, when first
Good to hear from you!
Eric S Fraga writes:
I do like the animated images in the features page!
Glad you like them! I recently converted the static images to SVGs
with the help of someone using Emacs27 w/ Cairo, would be nice go
do something like an animated SVG in the future, but
On Monday, 3 Aug 2020 at 10:03, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Emacs should run fine on PostmarketOS [1] [2]. Thus Org, too.
Emacs runs perfectly fine on Android via termux and org works as well (as does
gnus!).
But the issue is the keyboard.
--
: Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org
I do like the animated images in the features page! I do wonder about
the order of the topics within that page, e.g. working with source code,
although powerful, is probably not the lead item for new
users. However, that's a minor point at this stage.
More generally, can the column width for
: Emacs-orgmode On Behalf
> Of TEC
> Sent: den 3 augusti 2020 07:11
> To: Colin Baxter
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Website revamp?
>
>
> Colin Baxter writes:
>
> >> TEC writes:
> >> - The site is now more mobile friendly, t
Colin Baxter writes:
It seems to have the usual vertical monotone blocks, commonly
seen in mobile sites. These may be necessary for the small
screen but represent to me a retrograde development in web-site
design.
Ah yes, the big banner on the index page. I think I can see your
point of
On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 01:11:24PM +0800, TEC wrote:
>
> Colin Baxter writes:
>
> >> TEC writes:
> >> - The site is now more mobile friendly, the navbar now has a
> >
> > Why? How many users are installing org-mode on their 'phones - smart or
> > otherwise?
>
> Zero, I expect :P
Emacs
Dear Timothy,
> TEC writes:
- Snip --
> Of course we don't exactly have any hard answers to these
> questions, but I'd wager the answer is enough to warrant a little
> bit of effort to make the mobile experience not-garbage. To see
> how
Colin Baxter writes:
>> TEC writes:
>> - The site is now more mobile friendly, the navbar now has a
>
> Why? How many users are installing org-mode on their 'phones - smart or
> otherwise?
Zero, I expect :P
However, I don't think that's the question we should be asking.
Consider someone
> TEC writes:
> Another update :)
> - For inspection, the WIP-code can now be found on github:
> https://github.com/tecosaur/orgwebsite.
> - The site is now more mobile friendly, the navbar now has a
Why? How many users are installing org-mode on their 'phones - smart or
Another update :)
- For inspection, the WIP-code can now be found on github:
https://github.com/tecosaur/orgwebsite.
- The site is now more mobile friendly, the navbar now has a
burger state - The features page has seen a revamp in style and
content Please check it out and give me
The effort continues!
To give an idea of what's changed, here's a commit log:
Unmerged into origin/master (19)
- master Replace header generic org description with quote -
Remove jQuery, do smooth scrolling with CSS - Add open grabh meta
tags - Don't eval src blocks on export, by default -
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 01:57:27AM +0800, TEC wrote:
> Ok, I had a bit of time so I had a quick look and got started.
> I decided to start off with the big flashy stuff --- navbar and
> banner.
>
> I need to think about how I'm doing the styling more. To fit with
> the default org-export I need to
On 7/30/20 1:57 PM, TEC wrote> Ok, I had a bit of time so I had a quick look
and got started.
> I decided to start off with the big flashy stuff --- navbar and banner.
>
> I need to think about how I'm doing the styling more. To fit with the default
> org-export I need to work out what sort of
Ok, I had a bit of time so I had a quick look and got started.
I decided to start off with the big flashy stuff --- navbar and
banner.
I need to think about how I'm doing the styling more. To fit with
the default org-export I need to work out what sort of CSS hackery
I want to go with, at
TEC,
If you want instant feedback you might consider showing off on IRC
(irc.freenode.net #org-mode).
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:19:28PM +0800, TEC wrote:
> Thanks for giving me your thoughts on the idea :)
> Your responses have lead me to think that this may lead somewhere.
>
> Russell Adams
Hello Timothy,
TEC writes:
> Hello Russell, Amin,
>
> Thanks for giving me your thoughts on the idea :)
> Your responses have lead me to think that this may lead somewhere.
>
:-)
[...]
>
> Amin Bandali writes:
>> Hello,
> Hi :)
>
>> While we wait for Bastien and others to chime in, per
FWIW, I think this is a great idea!
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020, 10:45 AM TEC wrote:
>
> Hello Russell, Amin,
>
> Thanks for giving me your thoughts on the idea :)
> Your responses have lead me to think that this may lead somewhere.
>
> Russell Adams writes:
>
> > My feedback is that personally I
Hello Russell, Amin,
Thanks for giving me your thoughts on the idea :)
Your responses have lead me to think that this may lead somewhere.
Russell Adams writes:
My feedback is that personally I don't care about trendy web
pages. I agree with you that adding JS to simple pages makes
them
Hello,
TEC writes:
> Hello again,
>
> I thought I'd just bump this in the hope of a response, since in the
> six weeks since my original email I haven't heard anything.
>
> Just to re-iterate the central question:
> Bastien, would you be open to a website revamp? What are your
> thoughts?
>
>
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 09:00:28PM +0800, TEC wrote:
> As before, generally interested in thoughts on the idea :)
My feedback is that personally I don't care about trendy web pages. I agree with
you that adding JS to simple pages makes them horrible.
I would suggest though if you can use an
Hello again,
I thought I'd just bump this in the hope of a response, since in
the six weeks since my original email I haven't heard anything.
Just to re-iterate the central question:
Bastien, would you be open to a website revamp? What are your
thoughts?
As before, generally interested
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