Re: Products Electrical Ratings De-rated for Eurpoean Branch Circuits

2001-06-19 Thread Nick Rouse
Hello Glenn, Two things complicate this question. One is specific to the U.K. In the UK all domestic and very many commercial and light industrial use a ring main for all socket outlets and therefore we do not have spurs with ratings. UK plugs have fuses in them because the protection on the ring

Re: You won't believe this ... Well, maybe you will.

2001-06-19 Thread Doug McKean
"Rich Nute" wrote: > > Hi Doug: > > The issue for me is: What is the safety requirement > that requires cfm (I presume a minimum cfm)? The issue is a Hazardous Energy ( > 240va). The power output that feeds the board is above the limit. The fan itself is more of an issue of having a basel

FCC + FCC = FCC?

2001-06-19 Thread John Cronin
Hi Group This is a question regarding a plug in PC card that has been stated as FCC compliant which is inserted in a PC that is also stated to be FCC compliant and the emissions are found to actually exceed the FCC limits.  What is the responsibility of the manufacturer who is intending to place

Re: You won't believe this ... Well, maybe you will.

2001-06-19 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Doug: > done, the entire safety approval reduced to a simple > cfm rating fan for a chip both on the secondary > side of the power supply. The issue for me is: What is the safety requirement that requires cfm (I presume a minimum cfm)? Reading between the lines... The fan

Products Electrical Ratings De-rated for Eurpoean Branch Circuits

2001-06-19 Thread Lesmeister, Glenn
Does anyone know if it is common practice or otherwise required to de-rate products in Europe to 80% (or some other %) of the rating of the branch circuit as is done in the US? Some product standards (such as 61000-3-2) apply to products rated up to 16A, so it would appear that products can be r

You won't believe this ... Well, maybe you will.

2001-06-19 Thread Doug McKean
Dear all, In bringing a product through safety and having many issues, it might surprise you that after all was said and done, the entire safety approval reduced to a simple cfm rating fan for a chip both on the secondary side of the power supply. For some obvious reasons of which I hope y

Re: ISO TR 10605 test setup (ESD)

2001-06-19 Thread John Woodgate
<83d652574e7af740873674f9fc12dbaa675...@utexh1w2.gnnettest.com>, Chris Maxwell inimitably wrote: >The GRP's connection to Earth ground serves two purposes. It is a low >frequency ground connection to ensure that, over time, the GRP's DC >potential won't change with respect to Earth ground. The

Re: Clock dithering

2001-06-19 Thread John Woodgate
, John Woodgate inimitably wrote: ><4.3.2.7.2.20010618143751.00b3d...@box.tin.it>, Paolo Roncone > inimitably wrote: >>As for interference to broadband receivers (like TV equipment) I remember a >>Lexmark study published a few years ago that showed no increased >>interference from modulated clo

RE: braided vs served shields

2001-06-19 Thread CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more...
This might not directly answer your question, but may put some light on why these questions are difficult to answer in general. For all cables , the transfer impedance is equal to the Ohmic resistance of the shield at low frequencies. At higher frequencies the braiding effect causes due to the ro

RE: ISO TR 10605 test setup (ESD)

2001-06-19 Thread Mike Hopkins
Just one more comment: You never want a separate ground to a GRP that is different from other grounds in the building and more importantly, in the test area. There is a real risk of the GRP being at a different potential than other grounds, even if it is connected to a ground rod. Others have mea

RE: ISO TR 10605 test setup (ESD)

2001-06-19 Thread Jim . Hulbert
A third reason to tie the GRP to earth is safety. An ungrounded GRP could be very hazardous around AC mains voltages. Chris Maxwell @majordomo.ieee.org on 06/19/2001 08:46:30 AM Please respond to Chris Maxwell Sent by: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To: "'Chris Chileshe'" ,

May, 2001 EMC/Telco/Product Safety Update Now Available

2001-06-19 Thread Glen Dash
The Curtis-Straus Update is for May, 2001 is now available at: http://www.conformity-update.com The headlines are: THE EU, RTTE AND "TRANSITION RULES." UPDATE ON THE US/EU MEDICAL DEVICE MRA. EC STANDS PAT ON FLAME RETARDANTS IN PLASTIC. BUSH TAKES CONTROL AT THE FCC. FCC TO AUDIT 25% OF TCB GR

RE: ISO TR 10605 test setup (ESD)

2001-06-19 Thread Chris Maxwell
Hi from one Chris to another, I'm going to address your "ground rod" concerns (Question 3). In our lab here, we have a new building with new wiring and a reliable third wire Earth ground, so I simply tie my Ground Reference Plane ("GRP") to the third wire of one of the AC outlets in the room.

ISO TR 10605 test setup (ESD)

2001-06-19 Thread Chris Chileshe
Hi group For those of you unfamiliar with ISO TR 10605, it is the ESD test standard for automotive electronics (8kV contact, 25kV air). I am trying to perform quick ESD tests on a product which has bottom entry proprietary cable. Picture if you an upside-down bottle of coke with push buttons a

Re: braided vs served shields

2001-06-19 Thread John Woodgate
, brent.dew...@us.datex-ohmeda.com inimitably wrote: >Does anyone have any references or data on the comparative transfer >impedance between served (spiral) and braided cable shielding at the same >coverage level? It's heavily frequency-dependent. At low frequencies, it's the end-to- end resistan

Re: Clock dithering

2001-06-19 Thread John Woodgate
<200106182001.qaa14...@interlock2.lexmark.com>, rogle...@lexmark.com inimitably wrote: >According to our extensive tests in conjunction with >Philips Consumer Electronics, digital TV (both COFDM >and ATSC) is actually less susceptible to interference >from spread spectrum clocks (ssc) than current

Re: Clock dithering

2001-06-19 Thread John Woodgate
<4.3.2.7.2.20010618143751.00b3d...@box.tin.it>, Paolo Roncone inimitably wrote: >As for interference to broadband receivers (like TV equipment) I remember a >Lexmark study published a few years ago that showed no increased >interference from modulated clocks vs unmodulated clocks (there was als