[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Realism of Adi Da

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu Xero wrote: > > Note:  Adi Da says that Lenz was a former devotee of his in a > previous life.  I think it's important to note that he said this *in the context* of a bunch of former Lenz disciples *with lots of money* showing up on his doorstep looki

[FairfieldLife] Walking the walk is irrelevant - talking the talk rules!

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
In a sidebar conversation with Curtis yesterday, I tried to sum up the situation with regard to Ravi and Daniel and the fact that many people seem to have considered them enlightened or at the very least in the midst of some powerful and *positive* "awakening" as follows: "I think the elephant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Game Show

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > Oh boy, I hope I don't get too insensitive. But over at BATGAP, > the discussion has moved into contacting Daniel in his new > environs. And I'm sure all will be glad to know that "he is > doing fine and hasn't gone anywhere" (stan

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:00 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick To follow up, and explain a little, I'm not trying to overly get in your fa

RE: [FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:20 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick It first appeared during the Ravi meltdown. First, it was like pulling teeth to ev

[FairfieldLife] Transcendental Realism of Adi Da

2010-06-01 Thread Yifu Xero
Note:  Adi Da says that Lenz was a former devotee of his in a previous life.  ...  okbut his artwork is damn good!  Click onto it: http://www.adidabiennale.org/index.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > Was a large memorial today. 400 or so people. Lots of folks as speakers. > > Lots of very heady speechifying and spiritual reflection. Lots heady and > > some common grief. Only a couple speakers saying the suicide is > > unaccep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Buck
> > Was a large memorial today. 400 or so people. Lots of folks as speakers. > Lots of very heady speechifying and spiritual reflection. Lots heady and some > common grief. Only a couple speakers saying the suicide is unacceptable. One > of them was from the MUM President's Office, a guy who k

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of It's just a ride Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:24 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield I always wondered why everyone took Charlie Lutes so seriously. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Game Show

2010-06-01 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > Oh boy, I hope I don't get too insensitive. But over at BATGAP, the > discussion has moved into contacting Daniel in his new environs. And I'm > sure all will be glad to know that "he is doing fine and hasn't gone > anywhere" (s

[FairfieldLife] featuring: the Goebbels family

2010-06-01 Thread Yifu Xero
http://www.life.com/image/50595130

[FairfieldLife] Post Game Show

2010-06-01 Thread seventhray1
Oh boy, I hope I don't get too insensitive. But over at BATGAP, the discussion has moved into contacting Daniel in his new environs. And I'm sure all will be glad to know that "he is doing fine and hasn't gone anywhere" (standard boiler plate) Guidelines have been put forth for those who wish

[FairfieldLife] Re: Osho (Rajneesh) vs. MMY

2010-06-01 Thread seventhray1
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI This was absolutely brilliant. Timeless comedy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread It's just a ride
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Buck > *Sent:* Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield > > >

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-06-01 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat May 29 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 05 00:00:00 2010 309 messages as of (UTC) Tue Jun 01 23:22:39 2010 37 seventhray1 34 TurquoiseB 30 authfriend 20 Rick Archer 18 Sal Sunshine 14 WillyTex 14 Duveyoung 12

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Vaj
On May 30, 2010, at 2:40 PM, It's just a ride wrote: > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Vaj wrote: > > > > IME the "dark night" is widely valued and promoted by this (and other FF) > groups. However it was never clear if the people who had 'passed thru their > dark night of the soul' (and

[FairfieldLife] The Empathic Civilisation - How Empathy is Essential to Evolution

2010-06-01 Thread do.rflex
How human development and evolution of consciousness is based on the extension of empathy. Bestselling author, political adviser and social and ethical prophet Jeremy Rifkin investigates the evolution of empathy and the profound ways that it has shaped our development and our society. Watch

[FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > Judy, let me clarify this. I'm not against empathy, just > those that wear it on their sleeves for the whole world to > see and *admire*, especially for political purposes.I > would call that *false empathy* and when I see it or hear > it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

2010-06-01 Thread Mike Dixon
Whatever floats your boat. From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 11:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy   So you don't mind if we don't empathize with you? I'm not into bellig

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

2010-06-01 Thread Mike Dixon
Judy, let me clarify this. I'm not against empathy, just those that wear it on their sleeves for the whole world to see and *admire*, especially for political purposes.I would call that *false empathy* and when I see it or hear it, it makes me want to vomit.  Kind of reminds me of Christ reading

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of yifuxero Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 1:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought Right, but the Batgap forum has been useful to expose "them". But right

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: 2010 Summer Session IAA

2010-06-01 Thread Dick Mays
2010 Summer Session Invincible America Assembly Events on the Maharishi University of Management campus Schedule Summer Session IA Assembly July 3-31 Governor Refresher Block 1 (Governor Recertification Course) July 10 through 24 July Visitors Weekend, MUM July 16-19 TM-Sidhi Program Checki

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Satsang Answering Machine

2010-06-01 Thread yifuxero
great!...I love it. And Jerry says "What Will Be will Be"!...along with Ramesh Balsekar. Nisargadatta Maharaj is Jerry's favorite. He sent me a cc of Nisargadda's book "I AM THAT" some time ago. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > The Satsang Answering Machine > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

2010-06-01 Thread Bhairitu
So you don't mind if we don't empathize with you? I'm not into belligerence anyway. Mike Dixon wrote: > Of course anyone can have and in some cases *show* it. Lets' do it for the > ...children.:) > > > > > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread yifuxero
Right, but the Batgap forum has been useful to expose "them". But right from square one I'm still trying to figure out: The Awakened: "I'm Enlightened and my individuality has dissolved" ...So my question is: how is an interview possible without an individual: at least a body/mind talking, or som

[FairfieldLife] A fountainhead of the resurgence of Vedic civilization

2010-06-01 Thread merlin
Nepal: A fountainhead of the resurgence of Vedic civilization by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News 31 May 2010 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is known throughout the world as the Founder of the Transcendental Meditation Programme, the most thoroughly researched and effective technique f

[FairfieldLife] Re: MASS AWAKENING PT 30 Extraterrestrial Contact

2010-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgIn0zQ7Pjs&feature=related > > > Too late Nablus, the rest of the world had it's awakening to the > existence of Venus a long time a

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread David Hawthorne
Test (posting) From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread j_alexander_stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > I do still experience a certain degree of suffering when > > I allow myself to get caught up in a polarity, like I'm > > doing with the issue of Dan's suicide. I t

[FairfieldLife] How vast is space? How important are you?

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
I'm providing a link to this rather than trying to paste it in, because you'll want to click on it to enlarge it and follow the sequences of "scale" to the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/frLHu.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: BATGAP karma & "download limits"

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:50 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > > > Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo > > > isn't much better than it is in real life. Every time > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece > > > > Maybe it's in the actual study,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BATGAP karma & "download limits"

2010-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:50 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo > > isn't much better than it is in real life. Every time > > now I try to read a post I get this message: > > > > "The message you r

[FairfieldLife] Ashes To Ashes

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
For those who watched the British series "Life On Mars" (*not* the American travesty of a remake), and have been watching the followup series "Ashes To Ashes," the final episode of the latter has been a long time coming, and looked forward to with as much anticipation as the finale of "Lost." An

[FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Duveyoung
I agree with Barry, Rick. The bane of spirituality is our basic ignorance of others such that we have to admit that we can never really know their status, and, missing that element, a canvas is constructed upon which those who pose and suppose paint. If some one poses and another supposes --

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece > > Maybe it's in the actual study, but I can't find anything > in the article that explains how they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Osho on AIDS

2010-06-01 Thread Joe
That may or may not be (depending on how you view the whole raja, pretend country thing) but even assuming he was "nuttier than MMY" that doesn't make him worseor better. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > As brilliant and original as Rajneesh/Osho was, he *way* >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece Maybe it's in the actual study, but I can't find anything in the article that explains how they can be so sure that the electrical activity is the *cause* rather than th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece > > I just wanted to comment on this, so that at least > someone did. I think this is fascinating re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece I just wanted to comment on this, so that at least someone did. I think this is fascinating research, and I hope it continues. And I say this as someone who equally ho

[FairfieldLife] Re: BATGAP karma & "download limits"

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo > isn't much better than it is in real life. Every time > now I try to read a post I get this message: > > "The message you requested is temporarily unavailable because > this group has exc

RE: [FairfieldLife] BATGAP karma & "download limits"

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 9:25 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] BATGAP karma & "download limits" Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo isn't much better

[FairfieldLife] BATGAP karma & "download limits"

2010-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
Rick, apparently the group's karma with Yahoo isn't much better than it is in real life. Every time now I try to read a post I get this message: "The message you requested is temporarily unavailable because this group has exceeded its download limit. Please try again later." What the hell--ther

[FairfieldLife] The Satsang Answering Machine

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
The Satsang Answering Machine The Answering Machine Of Different Enlightened Masters Nisargadatta Maharaj 'Hi! This is Maharaj. I am not home right now. But in reality, I have never left. I have been here before you called and will be here after you hang up.' Ramesh Balsekar 'Hello! This

RE: [FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
Good challenge Barry. I will respond, hopefully by this evening. Have to get to work now. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:20 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] A challenge

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 10:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield Different story. A friend here re-tells hearing Charlie Lutes getting a phone call f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > I do still experience a certain degree of suffering when > I allow myself to get caught up in a polarity, like I'm > doing with the issue of Dan's suicide. I think what he > did was a horrible, cruel, ignoble, selfish act... a > giant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Similarly, I cannot conceive of anyone clinging to > > and glorifying the Maharishi-promoted idea that the > > ultimate goal of life -- having realized "200% of > > life"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread feste37
I second that. Well said. I also find myself agreeing with Turq and even Vaj. The surprising thing is that such things have to be said at all. Given the episode with Ravi and now the suicide of one of the BATGAP "high fliers," it seems to me that the BATGAP enterprise and the Wednesday night s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > I think that a lot of my inability to conceive of > such a belief system is the same thing that gives > me pause with Buddha's supposed First Noble Truth, > that "Life is suffering." Life is *not* suffering > for me. Never has been. Hope

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > wrote: > > > > > I think that a lot of my inability to conceive of > > such a belief system is the same thin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > The very same thing is what jumped out for me. As I see it, > > from the perspective of "Waking Down Brand Second Birth > > Awakening", having awoken to my ocean

[FairfieldLife] Re: Acedia & Fairfield

2010-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > I perceive a real danger in the *myth* about > enlightenment that says it's a state in which one's > very thoughts and perceptions and decisions and > actions are reflections of The Truth. > > Believing that is true to some extent "reliev

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > The very same thing is what jumped out for me. As I see it, > from the perspective of "Waking Down Brand Second Birth > Awakening", having awoken to my ocean nature makes being a > wave/drop a WHOLE lot more fun and easier to deal

[FairfieldLife] Near death experiences - all in the mind.....

2010-06-01 Thread Hugo
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/medicine/article7140165.ece

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread Alex Stanley
The very same thing is what jumped out for me. As I see it, from the perspective of "Waking Down Brand Second Birth Awakening", having awoken to my ocean nature makes being a wave/drop a WHOLE lot more fun and easier to deal with. Like Adyashanti describes it, it's a very peaceful, quiet freedom

[FairfieldLife] Re: MASS AWAKENING PT 30 Extraterrestrial Contact

2010-06-01 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgIn0zQ7Pjs&feature=related Too late Nablus, the rest of the world had it's awakening to the existence of Venus a long time ago. Did you learn nothing from the Mexico "ET" fiasco in the 90's? Rememb

[FairfieldLife] Slurls -- "you might not stick yours where I stick mine"

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
The author of the part in quotes above is talking about spaces. In particular the spaces we mentally insert in URLs, left to our own devices. The result is now the subject of a book: Hilarious web addresses revealed in new bookA list of the internet's most inadvertently amusing web addresses – such

Re: [FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 1, 2010, at 3:20 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Live up to some of the quotes you put on the Home Page > of FFL. Like the one that says, "What is wanted is not > the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which > is the exact opposite." > > One of the things that has been disturbing me a

[FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
To follow up, and explain a little, I'm not trying to overly get in your face, Rick. I'm just pointing out the essential value of your original vision in creating Fairfield Life. I am of the opinion that the record of Jim Flanegin's thoughts, words and actions presented here on FFL is a more inter

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > What is the "lack of freedom" being spoken of here? > > Am I wrong in thinking it's LIVING? > > If this is true, and not just some story that this twif > thought up, the person saying this or thinking this has > become convinced that LIVING and hav

[FairfieldLife] A challenge to Rick

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
Live up to some of the quotes you put on the Home Page of FFL. Like the one that says, "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite." One of the things that has been disturbing me a little lately, Rick, is that *you* seem more committed to "t

[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Acronyms

2010-06-01 Thread FairfieldLife
BC - Brahman Consciousness BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi CC - Cosmic Consciousness GC - God Consciousness MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi OTP - Off the Program - a phrase used in the TM movement meaning to do something (such as see another spiritual teacher) considered in violation of Maharishi's p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just when you thought....

2010-06-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > the Daniel suicide deal was going to cycle back to some more > common sense thinking, it seems to be taking off in the other > direction. This tribute by Radhika Schwartz (no relation to Dan) > on BATGAP is so far off base(in my opi