Fwd: A final rescue and adoption drive for displaced Katrina pets

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
  --- Begin Message --- Dear Members & Friends, In the week after Thanksgiving, nearly 40,000 of you signed our petition, showing your support for a plan to mount a final rescue, care, and nationwide adoption drive for family pets who are still roaming the streets in the aftermath of Hurrica

Re: Chrissy/Prissy on the bridge list

2005-12-13 Thread gblane
Thanks so much, Kerry... At 05:07 PM 12/13/2005, you wrote: Gloria, I am so sorry. That is awful, truly heartbreaking. I am sort of dreading the time my foster Pookie goes back home. (Supposed to be Xmas now, but it was supposed to be Thanksgiving, so I don't know...) love and hugs to you, Glori

Fwd: [NMHP] Too many cats for comfort

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
FYI on the No More Homeless Pets forum this week (Best Friends)... --- Begin Message --- My Groups | NMHP Main Page Question from a Member:One of my favorite cats started peeing on my bed (but only where I lay), my pillow and in my house shoes. I can keep the cat out

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
I actually would be surprised if they limit your argument time, but I guess they could. Greg is right about being concise anyway, though.  You can probably submit a memo in writing if you want to, which lays out the various arguments and evidence and supporting cases, etc.  If you had a lawy

Re: Chrissy/Prissy on the bridge list

2005-12-13 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
Gloria, I am so sorry. That is awful, truly heartbreaking. I am sort of dreading the time my foster Pookie goes back home. (Supposed to be Xmas now, but it was supposed to be Thanksgiving, so I don't know...) love and hugs to you, Gloria Kerry - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

boycott Walmart & China

2005-12-13 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
So far, I've turned over and rejected 6 items I was thinking of buying -- all said Made in China on the bottom. (No more buying from China for me since that BBC/Paul McCartney article that I believe Bonnie or Belinda sent?) Re Walmart--they are capable of anything; they certainly wouldn't wo

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
Hideyo--I just sent my testimonial to you directly along with an email. Please read the email too. Let me know you receive/can open attachment ok. love and hugs, Kerry - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December

Re: "Fake Fur" from garments made in China

2005-12-13 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
I just sent some email addresses of places to write in China; I can send it again. Also I would copy and paste Tonya's message about the Larry King show and send it to WalMart. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:52 p

RE: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Thanks, Michelle – I started looking into the zoning ordinance and started getting a headache.. Greg also told me to stop digging into more information – he said I probably have 30 mins to present my case and I have about 4 hours worth of information I need to present – he told me to make e

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
Hideyo,    This is getting a little beyond me, as I do not have any experience with zoning, but if they told you they were giving you a sanctuary permit (as opposed to a permit to just have 18 cats), I think you have an even stronger case.  The government can not approve a status like that o

Re: "Fake Fur" from garments made in China

2005-12-13 Thread Dudes
I watched the video about the foxes and raccoon dogs.  It's the most horrible thing I've ever seen.  So gruesome.  Made me cry.   Boycott seems like such a passive thing to do in the face of such suffering. Sandy 

RE: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I also live in a residential zone – and sanctuary status is only given only to the commercial zone – and that’s why they did not give to me this time (though that what the office gave to me also in 2004).  When I talked to the lady with the status and asked her about sanctuary status is onl

Re: "Fake Fur" from garments made in China

2005-12-13 Thread Sheila208
  I just left Walmart and they have all these fur pillows there that are made in China. They look and feel like real cat fur. Is this possible could Walmart be caring articles made from cat and dog fur? I saw the Larry King show about this terrible problem and I haven't been able to sleep since. Wh

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
Hmm.  Wow, I would want to bring up that other woman's case, but you're right in not wanting to jeopardize her. What is the zoning for where you are? If you incorporated as a nonprofit rescue group, could you get a kennel or sanctuary license? Michelle

RE: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Michelle -  If I ever forget to tell you, I wanted to you know how grateful I am of your insight on this.  And I will tell all my furry children how much you are helping me and saving their lives!!   Yes, everything you say totally makes sense.  I wish I had something physical to proof th

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
  I think the next logical step is for you to go to law school!   Ok, if you are going to be before a hearing officer rather than a judge, Greg is right-- the hearing officer probably can not, let alone will not, rule an ordinance invalid. I think you are right to stress the no problem, no n

some email addresses for Chinese cat/dog fur

2005-12-13 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
PLEASE CROSS POST Forwarded Message: Subj: LETTER - China's Dog/Cat Fur Markets Date: 12/10/2005 8:35:57 PM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet (Details) - Original Message - From: "Kinship Circle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

RE: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I think it came from hobby breeder permit where people keep their animals in kennels and cages (originally, they did not even have a multiple permit, the law was only written for hobby breeders and then, they add the multiple permit name added to the existing hobby breeder ordinance –   A

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
sounds good. whatever happens on Monday, if the criminal charges are not dropped, bring the lawyer. Michelle   In a message dated 12/13/2005 1:58:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah.. Greg’s friend is a very good criminal lawyer – he is probably too good – he defe

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
If they all have limits and they are a fixed number, I probably would not bring them up at all.   As to your argument, I think you are right about focusing on the 10% issue. It is really random.  Where does it come from? Are they suggesting that people who have dogs are supposed to confine t

RE: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Yeah.. Greg’s friend is a very good criminal lawyer – he is probably too good – he defends lots of federal crimes.. I will ask him.. Greg does not want me to freak out too much.. we will do out best to see what happens on Monday (he is pretty optimistic about Monday) and then if it does not

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
do you have a criminal lawyer?  I really would consider getting one. Michelle   In a message dated 12/13/2005 1:53:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had a bond arraignment this morning for the criminal complaint this morning.. so pleaded not guilty and trial is

RE: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I had a bond arraignment this morning for the criminal complaint this morning.. so pleaded not guilty and trial is now scheduled for 1/12 (so soon) – I hope everything will go well next Monday – otherwise, then I have to appeal,, and I guess I could get a continuance on the trial 1/12 (or a

RE: Hideyo's court case 19th?? - to Michelle

2005-12-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Thank you, Michelle for you input.  One of my vets is going to do a live testimony, so I think he can testify the below (space needs for different species) on my behalf. I will also look it up about the ordinance form other cities – I know they all have a limit.. but they don’t calculate t

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
I would make the equitable estoppel argument, that you relied on what you were told by the government.  Did you spend any money fixing things up for the cats in the past year since he said you had the permit? If so, seriously, I would document that and point out that you relied financially,

RE: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
What I found out from Denise who is director of animal services division is that they are currently investigating him for some misconduct he did not follow the procedure, could the city tell me “sorry, we have to take the permit back??”   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Chrissy/Prissy on the bridge list

2005-12-13 Thread gblane
Actually, the "owner" indicated that it was her choice because she herself has had kidney stones and knows how much they hurt. She was new to that vet, as she just moved (like 10 miles from her former place). From what she said, she was just adamant about it, thinking she was doing the right

Re: Chrissy/Prissy on the bridge list

2005-12-13 Thread gblane
Actually, the "owner" indicated that it was her choice because she herself has had kidney stones and knows how much they hurt. She was new to that vet, as she just moved (like 10 miles from her former place). From what she said, she was just adamant about it, thinking she was doing the right

Re: Chrissy/Prissy on the bridge list

2005-12-13 Thread wendy
Gloria, I'm sorry to hear about Chrissy. Do you think the vet recommended euthanasia for a bladder stone? Doesn't make sense. :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Belinda would you add one of my former fosters (not > FELV) to the Bridge > list? Name was Chrissy, owner renamed to Prissy.

RE: OT: Hannibal FINALLY started eating!

2005-12-13 Thread wendy
Hideyo, Great news about Hannibal! If he keeps this up, you'll have to put him on a diet! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
That is really strange-- that they say you need a permit but do not have any written record of giving them out?  I would say that bolsters the claim of arbitrary and capricious behavior-- that they do not seem to have a uniform way of deciding or recording the permits, and seem to do it by w

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
Look at the reasoning used in the decisions you have where ordinances were struck down, and see if you can use that.    Also, if you can get one of your "expert" witnesses-- the vet or the animal services person who is writing you a letter-- to say in a letter or in testimony that different

Re: Hideyo's court case 19th??

2005-12-13 Thread Lernermichelle
No, the citation is just the book and volume number.  You probably have the actual court decision.  Thanks for offering to fax it, but that's not necessary. I saved the summary that you sent me, and if I ever need access to the case I'll contact ALDF.  The only fax machine I have has to be

Re: Chrissy/Prissy on the bridge list

2005-12-13 Thread Susan Loesch
That is so true - that they are in our hearts forever.  Even if they've only been our fosters for a very short time.  Chrissy was so pretty and had been so unhappy around other kitties, and this seemed to be the perfect home for her.  TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sigh. i'm sorry, gloria

Re: WInstrol - build muscle mass and increase appetite

2005-12-13 Thread PEC2851
Gloria~ Yes, it has to be prescribed thru a vet because as I said it is a "controlled" drug - right up there with narcotics. However, it does work very well with cats that seem to be "wasting away" due to their illnesses. As much as use of steroids is debated, I feel when it comes down to givi

WInstrol - build muscle mass and increase appetite

2005-12-13 Thread Gloria Lane
That's very good to know. I'll copy this to Susan, who's on this lilst but may not be reading. We've talked recently about how to build muscle mass on these "puny" kitties that just don't thrive easily. She has one now that she's hand feeding several times daily (whew!). Can you get it

Hallmark Xmas Card & Josie

2005-12-13 Thread Lomaxturtle
Sandy this cheered my day at work - it made me laugh so much I've sent it around to others here too. Thanks Did I mention here that we were getting a dog called Josie at the weekend - well we did and I was hearbroken as we had to return her to the sanctuary the following day - it was awful. I