Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Ben Abbott
On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: > Ben Abbott wrote: > [] >> On Snow Leopard ... >> sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' >> -n asdf >> sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' >> asdfsh-3.2$ > > OK, so this is still the same as on Leopard. What has

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Costabel
Ben Abbott wrote: [] > On Snow Leopard ... > > sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' > -n asdf > sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' > asdfsh-3.2$ OK, so this is still the same as on Leopard. What has changed is the behavior of TeXShop, it seems to me. It doesn

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Ben Abbott
On Tuesday, September 01, 2009, at 10:29AM, "Martin Costabel" wrote: >Mark J. Reed wrote: >> OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which >> I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since >> Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If i

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: > I don't know how you do this, but it's not what I get on Leopard. Are you > sure you aren't running Tiger? Yes, it's Leopard. Specifically, as I said in my earlier message, 10.5.8. > Or do you set or unset the environment variable COMMAND

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Costabel
Mark J. Reed wrote: > OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which > I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since > Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't > changed until SL, that would also explain why the current proble

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Costabel
Mark J. Reed wrote: > OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which > I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since > Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't > changed until SL, that would also explain why the current proble

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't changed until SL, that would also explain why the current problem didn't show up until SL.

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Ben Abbott
On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:15 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Martin Costabel > wrote: >> Mark J. Reed wrote: >>> OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link >>> to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like >>> bash >>> does in

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: > Mark J. Reed wrote: >> OK, now I'm confused.  On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link >> to bash  - hm, a separate copy, actually -  and behaves just like bash >> does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n in echo. > >

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Costabel
Ben Abbott wrote: > On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin >> Costabel wrote: >>> Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash >>> instead of >>> sh. >> OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a li

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Costabel
Mark J. Reed wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: >> Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of >> sh. > > OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link > to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves jus

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Ben Abbott
On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin > Costabel wrote: >> Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash >> instead of >> sh. > > OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link > to bash - hm, a sepa

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: > Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of > sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode'

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Ben Abbott
On Aug 31, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: > Mark J. Reed wrote: >> "More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires" would seem to be an >> oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows "echo -n". > > Yes, that's what I mean. Back in the early days of Leopard, when > people compla

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Costabel
Mark J. Reed wrote: > "More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires" would seem to be an > oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows "echo -n". Yes, that's what I mean. Back in the early days of Leopard, when people complained about the missing -n in sh's echo, Apple said it is becaus

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Ben Abbott
On 8/31/09, Martin Costabel wrote: > Ben Abbott wrote: >> I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted > [] >> Default Command: Latex >> Default Script: Tex + DVI >> Tex: altpdflatex >> Latex: altpdflatex > > Contemporary versions of tex use simpdftex instead of altpdftex,

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Mark J. Reed
"More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires" would seem to be an oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows "echo -n". Does the builtin echo in sh have any way to suppress a newline? Maybe the venerable "\c"? On 8/31/09, Martin Costabel wrote: > Ben Abbott wrote: >> I followed the

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Costabel
Ben Abbott wrote: > I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted [] > Default Command: Latex > Default Script: Tex + DVI > Tex: altpdflatex > Latex: altpdflatex Contemporary versions of tex use simpdftex instead of altpdftex, whose development stopped ca 2002. > When I t

[Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, & tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Ben Abbott
I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted all Fink's .la files and have rebuilt the packages when the missing files were needed when running an update-all. All went rather well. Now I'm having trouble with tetex. With the simple latex document ... > \documentclass[1