RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Jon Berndt
> > Dunno, prpbably their energy wasn't enough, but couldn't they try to > > make it to the IIS and use a Progress (IIRC) to make it back, if they > > figured out that this shuttle wasn't save enough to return? > > ..assuming the orbits were close enough, would it work for 10 people? They were in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 00:59:04 +0100, Christian Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:07:48 -, > > "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [more or less OT] Map Projection on Navigation Displays

2003-02-01 Thread Norman Vine
Manuel Bessler writes: > On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 06:04:21PM -0500, Norman Vine wrote: > > Manuel Bessler writes: > > > > > > I couldn't find any good info on what kind of map projection > > > technique to use for the ND. > > > ie. mapping lat/lon to x/y-screen coord. > > > I took a look at the Open

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Tony Peden
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 16:51, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On 1 Feb 2003, Tony Peden wrote: > > > On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 14:56, Jon Berndt wrote: > > > > No doubt now that the focus will be on the left wing. But I'm > > > wondering, is > > > > there anything that could have been done had the assessment

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Matthew Johnson
On 1 Feb 2003, Tony Peden wrote: > On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 14:56, Jon Berndt wrote: > > > No doubt now that the focus will be on the left wing. But I'm > > wondering, is > > > there anything that could have been done had the assessment gone the > > other way? > > > > > > ..heavy sigh... > > > > I d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [more or less OT] Map Projection on Navigation Displays

2003-02-01 Thread Manuel Bessler
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 06:04:21PM -0500, Norman Vine wrote: > Manuel Bessler writes: > > > > I am working on something similar to OpenGC, but not > > OpenGL based, but rather xlib-based... (its supposed to run on lowlevel > > Pentiums w/ non-3D accel graphics cards, maybe even 486s) > > > > I co

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Tony Peden
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 14:56, Jon Berndt wrote: > > No doubt now that the focus will be on the left wing. But I'm > wondering, is > > there anything that could have been done had the assessment gone the > other way? > > > > ..heavy sigh... > > I do not believe so. Perhaps there ought to be, though

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Christian Mayer
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:07:48 -, > "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > > > > During ascent there was some ice that broke loose and impacted the > > > left wing underside near the el

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:07:48 -, "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > During ascent there was some ice that broke loose and impacted the > > left wing underside near the elevon and the ice chunk disintegrated

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [more or less OT] Map Projection on Navigation Displays

2003-02-01 Thread Norman Vine
Manuel Bessler writes: > > I am working on something similar to OpenGC, but not > OpenGL based, but rather xlib-based... (its supposed to run on lowlevel > Pentiums w/ non-3D accel graphics cards, maybe even 486s) > > I couldn't find any good info on what kind of map projection > technique to use

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Jon Berndt
> No doubt now that the focus will be on the left wing. But I'm wondering, is > there anything that could have been done had the assessment gone the other way? > > ..heavy sigh... I do not believe so. Perhaps there ought to be, though. The focus probably will be more on preventing insulation shed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mac OS X: at a loss

2003-02-01 Thread David Drum
Quoth Arnt Karlsen: > ..if this would have caught .*plib* (dotwhateverplibwhatever) > too, it appears I just joined the "at loss" ranks. I believe so. Again, this is on a system which has had its disk erased and OS reinstalled between each attempt at compilation. I did not expect to find any r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mac OS X: at a loss

2003-02-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:01:40 -0600, David Drum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoth Arnt Karlsen: > > > > sudo find / -type f -name libplibssg.a -print > > > > ..tried "*plib*" etc? > > Yes, at your behest. Same result. ..

[Flightgear-devel] [more or less OT] Map Projection on Navigation Displays

2003-02-01 Thread Manuel Bessler
Hi I am working on something similar to OpenGC, but not OpenGL based, but rather xlib-based... (its supposed to run on lowlevel Pentiums w/ non-3D accel graphics cards, maybe even 486s) I couldn't find any good info on what kind of map projection technique to use for the ND. ie. mapping lat/lon

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > During ascent there was some ice that broke loose and impacted the left wing > underside near the elevon and the ice chunk disintegrated on impact. There > was some concern that the protective tiles that cover the surfaces which are > exposed to the most h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mac OS X: at a loss

2003-02-01 Thread David Drum
Quoth Arnt Karlsen: > > sudo find / -type f -name libplibssg.a -print > > ..tried "*plib*" etc? Yes, at your behest. Same result. Regards, David K. Drum [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [E

[Flightgear-devel] Importing DTED level 1 data in to FlightGear

2003-02-01 Thread Erez Boym
Hi, Is there a tool that will help me import DTED level 1 data in to FlightGear ? Are there any HOWTOs that will help me do that ? I have looked on the HOWTOs on FlightGear.org but other then some theoretical HOWTOs I couldn't find real practical ones. Thanks Erez

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible Debian unstable problem ?

2003-02-01 Thread Major A
> Something went wrong in flightgear during my last dist-upgrade (sid)... > and I think it has something to do with the transition from gcc 2.95 to 3.2. > (it fails to load some shared libraries). > > In any case, my CVS compiled version works fine, but > the one in Debian's database fails to run

[Flightgear-devel] Possible Debian unstable problem ?

2003-02-01 Thread Elad Yarkoni
Hi, Something went wrong in flightgear during my last dist-upgrade (sid)... and I think it has something to do with the transition from gcc 2.95 to 3.2. (it fails to load some shared libraries). In any case, my CVS compiled version works fine, but the one in Debian's database fails to run. I'll

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Base package repository move pending

2003-02-01 Thread Frederic Bouvier
From: "John Check" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Heads up! > The bpr server is changing IP's in the next couple of days. > The repository itself may be migrated to flightgear.org, > but expect a few hours of outage between now and > sunday. What is the status of the move ? I can't access to the base pack

[Flightgear-devel] Logging

2003-02-01 Thread David Megginson
I've made a minor change to logging -- all logs and log entries now require an explicit 'enabled' property, set to a boolean true value, or else they will be skipped. I made this change to support the new logging dialog (under State/Logging) that I've just checked in -- you can now log properties

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Hi-Res C172-S instruments

2003-02-01 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Berndt writes: > > That's deliberate -- Curt designed the panel to be displayed on a > > separate monitor. > > So, it's just for demo, now? Well, sort of, the instruments are there and can be included on any instrument panel where a person would like to use them. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis O

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Hi-Res C172-S instruments

2003-02-01 Thread Jon Berndt
> Remember these two rules: > > 1. If you upgrade FlightGear and SimGear, then you have to upgrade the >base package at the same time. > > 2. If you upgrade the base package, you have to upgrade FlightGear and >SimGear at the same time. Oh, yeah. > That's deliberate -- Curt designed the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Hi-Res C172-S instruments

2003-02-01 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt writes: > 1) The escape key used to kill flightgear. It doesn't seem to work, now. I > got this: > > No type specified for GUI object > Widget exit does not contain a proper GUI definition Remember these two rules: 1. If you upgrade FlightGear and SimGear, then you have to upgra

RE: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Jon Berndt
> > For those of you who may not have heard, the Space Shuttle Columbia > > appears to have broken up on entry as it passed south of Dallas > > while at a speed of mach 10+. > > Any thoughts on what may have happened? > > Matt During ascent there was some ice that broke loose and impacted the left

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Elad Yarkoni
Once upon a time, you were sitting and writing: > For those of you who may not have heard, the Space Shuttle Columbia > appears to have broken up on entry as it passed south of Dallas while at a > speed of mach 10+. Sad day for all of us. >From the Israeli POV, it is especially sad, as the first

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 06:42, Jon Berndt wrote: > For those of you who may not have heard, the Space Shuttle Columbia > appears to have broken up on entry as it passed south of Dallas while at a > speed of mach 10+. Oh my God :(. No other words I am afraid... Any thoughts on what may have happene

[Flightgear-devel] engine autostart

2003-02-01 Thread David Culp
On my one-day-old snapshot build of flightgear I encounter this: with command line: --fg-root=/usr/local/FlightGear --aircraft=c172 --prop:/engines/engine/running=true --enable-hud --disable-clouds --start-date-gmt=2003:01:20:16:00:00 The sim starts with the engine running at about 750 rpm and pr

[Flightgear-devel] [OT] Shuttle breaks up

2003-02-01 Thread Jon Berndt
For those of you who may not have heard, the Space Shuttle Columbia appears to have broken up on entry as it passed south of Dallas while at a speed of mach 10+. smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature

[Flightgear-devel] Realistic sky dome

2003-02-01 Thread Erik Hofman
Hi, If someone has a spare hour on his hands and want to use that to improve the skydome using this technique: http://www.geocities.com/ngdash/whitepapers/skydomecolor.html I have created a skycolour map required by that paper based on the following paper and sourcecode: http://www.cs.utah.e