Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia: Biography of Living People guide (focusing on sport)

2011-09-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Laura Hale wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Philippe Beaudette < > phili...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> That's a great start! >> >> One thing I'd do... our "acronym soup" can be enormously confusing. I >> have a tendency to write " enwp.org/WP:BLP ",

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia: Biography of Living People guide (focusing on sport)

2011-09-14 Thread Laura Hale
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > That's a great start! > > One thing I'd do... our "acronym soup" can be enormously confusing. I have > a tendency to write " enwp.org/WP:BLP ", for instance, but an outsider > might need to see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:B

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia: Biography of Living People guide (focusing on sport)

2011-09-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
That's a great start! One thing I'd do... our "acronym soup" can be enormously confusing. I have a tendency to write " enwp.org/WP:BLP ", for instance, but an outsider might need to see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_Living_Persons - it's easier for the mind to parse. ___

[Gendergap] Dubious talk page discussions (was:Re: An example of clothed model in medical document)

2011-09-14 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
> > I don't have very good examples in mind, but maybe user Valorum27 fits > the description here : > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sleeveless_shirt#Is_this_necessary.3F > > He is alone in this example but if there were more, it would bring back > sexual focus. > > A better example is this, w

Re: [Gendergap] "beauty" project

2011-09-14 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
Sarah: I've been spending a little bit of time this evening looking at beauty related topics. I noticed most of them aren't tagged with any projects. I looked at WP:Fashion, which specifically focuses on style/clothing/etc. I have to admit, I'm a bit surprised there isn't a "Beauty and P

Re: [Gendergap] Hairdresser, hairstylist...barber?

2011-09-14 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser > > Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male > barbers and men's haircutting culture. > > Surely I can't be the

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 8, Issue 40

2011-09-14 Thread Jutta von Dincklage
> Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:34:21 +1000 > From: Laura Hale > Subject: [Gendergap] Wikipedia: Biography of Living People guide > (focusing on sport) > To: memb...@wikimedia.org.au, Increasing female participation in > Wikimedia projects > Message-ID: >

Re: [Gendergap] Hairdresser, hairstylist...barber?

2011-09-14 Thread Fred Bauder
> I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser > > Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male > barbers and men's haircutting culture. > > Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd... > > Really needs some

Re: [Gendergap] Hairdresser, hairstylist...barber?

2011-09-14 Thread Sydney Poore
Yes, as you have pointed out in other threads the whole area of women's beauty is a mess. Disorganized and under represented Slight mention of hair stylists here, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_cut . Sydney On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > I searched for "haird

[Gendergap] Hairdresser, hairstylist...barber?

2011-09-14 Thread Sarah Stierch
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture. Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd... Really needs some gender neutral

[Gendergap] Cosmo Mag 1967: The Computer Girls

2011-09-14 Thread Moka Pantages
Hi, all. I don't remember seeing this in the digests, so apologies if this work has already been posted. I came across an historical article from a 1968 edition of Cosmopolitan, The Computer Girls [1] and this amazing add targeted at female programmers [2]. This was cited in a recent Washington

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Emily Monroe
FloNight said: > [snip] It make no real difference what it is called, guideline or policy, as long > as everyone one is singing from the same page in the hymnal. The deletion > discussion over the past week, (and there have been many of them using lack > of model consent as reason) have gone wel

[Gendergap] "beauty" project

2011-09-14 Thread Sarah Stierch
I've been spending a little bit of time this evening looking at beauty related topics. I noticed most of them aren't tagged with any projects. I looked at WP:Fashion, which specifically focuses on style/clothing/etc. I have to admit, I'm a bit surprised there isn't a "Beauty and Personal Care" typ

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Sydney Poore
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > On 9/13/11 8:03 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > > I think this is really great, thank you Kaldari for taking the time to > > create this. > > > > The n00b in me asks : > > > > 1) Is this trackable? That is, a hidden category or anything? > > There

Re: [Gendergap] Wikifashion

2011-09-14 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/students-startup-weaves-a-web-that-keeps-growing-20110914-1k9hi.html ''If you look at Wikipedia, a lot of the [fashion] designer or brand pages do not have a lot of information on them, and Wikipedia does not really focus on images, so yo

[Gendergap] WikiProject Fashion

2011-09-14 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
Nicole: A similar area where Wikipedia is lacking is cosmetics and I don't mean in terms of how to create makeup looks or pictures of every shade of nail polish, but general information on cosmetics companies like Cover Girl and Maybelline. I think there needs to more information on the history

Re: [Gendergap] Wikifashion

2011-09-14 Thread Brandon Harris
On 9/14/11 8:41 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > > I really like the layout and such of the website I am on record in a number of places expressing my love for their skin design. I don't necessarily like the color scheme but the skin layout is top-notch.

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Ryan Kaldari
On 9/13/11 8:03 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > I think this is really great, thank you Kaldari for taking the time to > create this. > > The n00b in me asks : > > 1) Is this trackable? That is, a hidden category or anything? There aren't any categories currently, but I could add some. Right now, yo

Re: [Gendergap] Wikifashion

2011-09-14 Thread Sue Gardner
On 14 September 2011 10:03, Michael J. Lowrey wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Sarah Stierch > wrote: >> I do like this though (scroll down to badges), not the portraits..but the >> round badges. I'd love to see something like this developed for Wikipedia. >> I'd have them on my tumblr

Re: [Gendergap] An example of clothed model in medical document

2011-09-14 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 14/09/2011 18:25, Sydney Poore wrote: > We often need to rewrite text to make it less like an investigative > report, a salacious tabloid story, or a company press release. One of the reasons I insist so much on positive rules is that I fear there might be a perverse use of negative rules, wh

Re: [Gendergap] Other "women's" wiki's

2011-09-14 Thread Sydney Poore
I'm creating account on these two wikis to better understand ways that these wikis function since they have more women, and were created more recently than WMF projects. Sydney Poore User:FloNight On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > These are two others that I have stumbled

Re: [Gendergap] Wikifashion

2011-09-14 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > I do like this though (scroll down to badges), not the portraits..but the > round badges. I'd love to see something like this developed for Wikipedia. > I'd have them on my tumblr, etc. > > http://wikifashion.com/wiki/Wikifashion:Contributor

Re: [Gendergap] An example of clothed model in medical document

2011-09-14 Thread Sydney Poore
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Arnaud HERVE wrote: > The last few days we talked about appropriate nudity in medical images. > I have an example of appropriate clothing now. > > I think applying such rules as decency, respect, etc. are not totally > sufficient. > > I think that the main princip

[Gendergap] Other "women's" wiki's

2011-09-14 Thread Sarah Stierch
These are two others that I have stumbled across. I think it's really interesting to look at these wiki's and see what makes them good/bad, attractive/not, etc. I think there can always be something to learned..I've looked at these extensively, and even made accounts on them to explore the process.

Re: [Gendergap] Wikifashion

2011-09-14 Thread Nicole Willson
ed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > >> >> >> http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/students-startup-weaves-a-web-that-keeps-growing-20110914-1k9hi.html >> > > *''If you look at Wikipedia, a lot of the [fashion] designer or brand > pages

Re: [Gendergap] Wikifashion

2011-09-14 Thread Sarah Stierch
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > > > http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/students-startup-weaves-a-web-that-keeps-growing-20110914-1k9hi.html > *''If you look at Wikipedia, a lot of the [fashion] designer or brand pages do not have a lot of in

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Sarah
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 09:25, Arnaud HERVE wrote: > On 14/09/2011 16:56, Sarah wrote: >> So the problem with the basic consent template as written -- "I >> personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown >> specifically consented to this photograph or video" -- is that it >> implies

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 14/09/2011 16:56, Sarah wrote: > So the problem with the basic consent template as written -- "I > personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown > specifically consented to this photograph or video" -- is that it > implies to the unsuspecting that consent has been given to tak

Re: [Gendergap] Wikifashion

2011-09-14 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > > http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/students-startup-weaves-a-web-that-keeps-growing-20110914-1k9hi.html > > http://wikifashion.com/wiki/Main_Page > > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikif

[Gendergap] Wikifashion

2011-09-14 Thread Fred Bauder
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/students-startup-weaves-a-web-that-keeps-growing-20110914-1k9hi.html http://wikifashion.com/wiki/Main_Page https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikifashion&action=edit&redlink=1 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/i

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Sarah
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 17:39, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > I added a new parameter to the template for indicating full consent. If > you use {{consent|full}} it outputs: > "I personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown > specifically consented to publication of this photograph or video

[Gendergap] An example of clothed model in medical document

2011-09-14 Thread Arnaud HERVE
The last few days we talked about appropriate nudity in medical images. I have an example of appropriate clothing now. I think applying such rules as decency, respect, etc. are not totally sufficient. I think that the main principle should to avoid erotic content in order to focus on the cogni

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Ryan Kaldari > wrote: >> I added a new parameter to the template for indicating full consent. If >> you use {{consent|full}} it outputs: >> "I personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown >> specifically consented to publication of this photograp

[Gendergap] Sexual Harassment in Online Communications: Effects of Gender and Discourse Medium

2011-09-14 Thread Sydney Poore
Interesting article that supports the idea that women and men perceive content differently. The research found that "in terms of gender differences, women rated online pictures and jokes as significantly more harassing than men." http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/109493102753685863 We

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap humor

2011-09-14 Thread Chris Keating
O.M.G. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > :)) > > A. > > --- On *Wed, 14/9/11, Ryan Kaldari * wrote: > > > From: Ryan Kaldari > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap humor > To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 2:04 > > > Another blatant