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On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:06:28PM +0100, Christoph Wilhelms wrote:
> > Surprise surprise...
> >
> > http://www.javalobby.org/thread.jsp?forum=61&thread=6843
>
> Does this surprise anybody ;)?
> M$ is the reason why I did not have intensively dealt with .NET - even it
> might be a good technology
Could someone grant me karma to jakarta-site2?
I want to alter the mailing list details for the projects that have moved to
db.apache.org.
Thanks in advance,
Scott
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Peter Donald wrote:
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> The decision not to use LGPL in Apache code is not due to license violations
> but a policy based decision handed down from the board as they dont feel it
> furthers Apaches aims.
incorrect. or at best incomplete and misleading.
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadM
> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> on 2003/2/12 8:55 AM, "neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I was at apachecon ! I'm hoping to have a chat with anyone who runs CVS
> > for 50+ developers in a fast moving environment. I'm looking for some
> >
on 2003/2/12 8:55 AM, "neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was at apachecon ! I'm hoping to have a chat with anyone who runs CVS
> for 50+ developers in a fast moving environment. I'm looking for some
> very basic pointers on whether we should implement it or not. Also might
> be in the market fo
>
> No, it is not up to the ASF. However, has the ASF attempted to clarify the
> matter with the FSF? Why not ask the FSF if importing java classes is
> considered as "derivative work" or simply as "work that uses the library"?
>
It doesn't really matter. There are restrictions imposed on a 'work
HI Folks
I was at apachecon ! I'm hoping to have a chat with anyone who runs CVS
for 50+ developers in a fast moving environment. I'm looking for some
very basic pointers on whether we should implement it or not. Also might
be in the market for some consultancy if anyone is based in the UK.
TI
Thank you Robert,
DRAFT2 is the best answer to M$ patenting policy!!!
Regards
Xavier
XP> -Message d'origine-
XP> De : Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
XP> Envoye : mercredi 12 fevrier 2003 14:37
XP> A : Jakarta General List
XP> Objet : Re: Microsoft attempts to patent .NET
XP
This does look to be a february item... I'm inclined to hang onto it for
next time but if people disagree then we can whack it in.
Thanks,
Rob
Daniel F. Savarese wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, robert burr
ell donkin writes:
(here's some bits and pieces from the commons.)
Jakarta Co
Jakarta Newsletter
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Issue: 7
Date: January 2003
Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html
The month has been quite busy for apache folks, with new apache
projects, new jakarta subprojects and talk of even more. And to reassure
you that the code is also coming along n
Jakarta Newsletter
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Issue: 7
Date: January 2003
Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html
The month has been quite busy for apache folks, with new apache
projects, new jakarta subprojects and talk of even more. And to reassure
you that the code is also coming along n
Jakarta Newsletter
==
Issue: 7
Date: January 2003
Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html
The month has been quite busy for apache folks, with new apache
projects, new jakarta subprojects and talk of even more. And to reassure
you that the code is also coming along n
I will do this as well. Thanks.
-Andy
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No it does not mean we can't package things which use .NET. It means
practically nothing for us, perhaps validation that the other
VM/language is just as unfree and proprietary if not more so than ours.
Not sure I'd jump for joy at this though.
Christoph Wilhelms wrote:
Surprise surprise...
ht
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
No, it is not up to the ASF. However, has the ASF attempted to clarify
the matter with the FSF? Why not ask the FSF if importing java classes
is considered as "derivative work" or simply as "work that uses the
library"?
In the absence of a clear response from the FSF,
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
At 07:21 12.02.2003 -0500, Sam Ruby wrote:
LGPL has special rules for 'link'. What exactly is the concept of a
'link' in Java? If A imports B and A and B are not in the same Java
package (but perhaps share some similar names in the first three
qualifiers) are they in the s
No, it is not up to the ASF. However, has the ASF attempted to clarify
the matter with the FSF? Why not ask the FSF if importing java classes
is considered as "derivative work" or simply as "work that uses the
library"?
In the absence of a clear response from the FSF, there is no doubt that
The true question will be whether they plan to enfore the patents. Which, looking at
their track
record and anti-open source position, seems likely.
--- Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Surprise surprise...
>
> http://www.javalobby.org/thread.jsp?forum=61&thread=6843
>
>
At 07:21 12.02.2003 -0500, Sam Ruby wrote:
LGPL has special rules for 'link'. What exactly is the concept of a
'link' in Java? If A imports B and A and B are not in the same Java
package (but perhaps share some similar names in the first three
qualifiers) are they in the same 'library' or no
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
I echo Andrew's reservations. The reasons behind the restriction of
LGPLed imports are unclear and apparently undocumented. Such a crucial
matter deserves to be properly documented. If the restriction cannot
be justified, then it should be lifted.
You have that backwards.
LGP
> Surprise surprise...
>
> http://www.javalobby.org/thread.jsp?forum=61&thread=6843
Does this surprise anybody ;)?
M$ is the reason why I did not have intensively dealt with .NET - even it
might be a good technology...
But what does that mean for us?
Do we have to unbundle the Ant .NET tasks (e
Surprise surprise...
http://www.javalobby.org/thread.jsp?forum=61&thread=6843
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I echo Andrew's reservations. The reasons behind the restriction of
LGPLed imports are unclear and apparently undocumented. Such a crucial
matter deserves to be properly documented. If the restriction cannot
be justified, then it should be lifted.
I urge all Apache members and committers to caref
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