Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-07-05 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05.07.2012 06:26, Doug Goldstein wrote: > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jeroen Roovers > wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:02:28 -0400 Mike Gilbert >> wrote: >> >>> That is exactly what Doug (cardoe) proposed, and he is working >>> on the docs fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-07-04 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:02:28 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> That is exactly what Doug (cardoe) proposed, and he is working on the >> docs for that. >> > > Ah yes, it's been a long-winded thread. :) > > > jer > I got a little busier th

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-07-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:02:28 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > That is exactly what Doug (cardoe) proposed, and he is working on the > docs for that. > Ah yes, it's been a long-winded thread. :) jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-07-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:15:23 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Gilbert >> wrote: >> > 3. grub2-install calls grub2-bios-setup which installs boot.img into >> > the MBR and embeds core.img into the sector

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-07-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:15:23 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Gilbert > wrote: > > 3. grub2-install calls grub2-bios-setup which installs boot.img into > > the MBR and embeds core.img into the sectors immediately after the > > MBR. > > Ok, that isn't all that un

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Richard Yao
On 06/29/2012 05:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> On 06/29/2012 03:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > GRUB2 does away with the conven

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > On 06/29/2012 03:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a special B

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Richard Yao
On 06/29/2012 03:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >>> GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a >>> special BIOS Boot Partition in order to function. That is where it >

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> 3. grub2-install calls grub2-bios-setup which installs boot.img into >> the MBR and embeds core.img into the sectors immediately after the >> MBR. > > Ok, that isn't all that unlike grub

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > 3. grub2-install calls grub2-bios-setup which installs boot.img into > the MBR and embeds core.img into the sectors immediately after the > MBR. Ok, that isn't all that unlike grub1 - that is what stage1.5 is. It just sounds like these aren'

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a >> special BIOS Boot Partition in order to function. That is where it >> stores the equivalent of the stage2 bootcode. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> It does copy all of the images to /boot so that the grub shell can be >> used to install an MBR image. grub:2 no longer has an interactive >> shell and grub2-install must be used. Theref

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > GRUB2 does away with the conventional stage files. It also wants a > special BIOS Boot Partition in order to function. That is where it > stores the equivalent of the stage2 bootcode. That is similar to > FreeBSD's bootloader. Now, that should

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Richard Yao
On 06/29/2012 02:38 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> It does copy all of the images to /boot so that the grub shell can be >> used to install an MBR image. grub:2 no longer has an interactive >> shell and grub2-install must be used. Therefore, copyi

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > It does copy all of the images to /boot so that the grub shell can be > used to install an MBR image. grub:2 no longer has an interactive > shell and grub2-install must be used. Therefore, copying files to > /boot in the ebuild is completely p

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> As far as I can tell, grub:0 only half-way updates itself; there is a >> large ewarn telling the user that they must take action to install the >> new version in the MBR. This seems a b

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > As far as I can tell, grub:0 only half-way updates itself; there is a > large ewarn telling the user that they must take action to install the > new version in the MBR. This seems a bit broken to me. In what way. As far as I can tell I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 29 June 2012 01:59:37 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > On Monday 25 June 2012 00:15:59 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I w

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 29 June 2012 01:59:37 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Monday 25 June 2012 00:15:59 Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would > >> like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly aft

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > I don't really see a way to reliably call grub2-install from the > ebuild, and I think this would be a bit unfriendly to the user anyway. > Please don't. We don't auto-install grub during the initial install, so we have NO idea how users h

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 25 June 2012 00:15:59 Mike Gilbert wrote: >> An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would >> like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the tree. >> I don't do much work on base system

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 25 June 2012 00:15:59 Mike Gilbert wrote: > An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would > like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the tree. > I don't do much work on base system packages, so I would like some > advice on how to make this a

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:15:59 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would >> like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the >> tree. I don't do much work on base s

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:15:59 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would > like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the > tree. I don't do much work on base system packages, so I would like > some advice on how to make t

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Since Grub Legacy and Grub 2 are slotted, Portage won't remove the > older version. Even if it removes the older one, everything necessary > is installed into /boot and the MBR already. Portage will remove the older slot the next time the

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would > like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the tree. > I don't do much work on base system packages, so I would like some > advice on how to make thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:35:19 -0400 Richard Yao wrote: > On 06/25/2012 12:15 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I > > would like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it > > hits the tree. I don't do much work on base system packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-25 Thread heroxbd
Mike Gilbert writes: > My main concern is that many people probably have sys-boot/grub in > @world. How about a news item advising people to put sys-boot/grub:0 in their world file to retain grub:0? > If grub:2 is made visible, portage will install it, and will remove > grub-0.97 on the next d

Re: [gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-24 Thread Richard Yao
On 06/25/2012 12:15 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would > like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the tree. > I don't do much work on base system packages, so I would like some > advice on how to make this as smooth

[gentoo-dev] grub:2 keywords

2012-06-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
An official release of grub-2.00 should be coming pretty soon. I would like to keyword this for ~amd64 and ~x86 shortly after it hits the tree. I don't do much work on base system packages, so I would like some advice on how to make this as smooth as possible. My main concern is that many people p