[gentoo-user] Re: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 17/03/12 06:11, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: This item just appeared after eix-sync: HTPC ~ # eselect news read 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking Title udev-181 unmasking AuthorWilliam Hubbs Posted2012-03-16 Revision

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 17, 2012 11:15 AM, "Bruce Hill, Jr." wrote: > > This item just appeared after eix-sync: > > HTPC ~ # eselect news read > 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking > Title udev-181 unmasking > AuthorWilliam Hubbs > Posted2012-03-16 > Revi

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: >  -- > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 12:19 AM "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: > >> > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken >> > >> > >> > >> > Happy Computer Users (for now), systemd is on your horizon. >> > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I trigger kernel panic?

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
On March 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM "ZHANG, Le" wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jarry wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > my question might seem silly, but I have reason for it: > > I have heard there is way to auto-reboot linux after kernel > > panic using "kernel.panic=" in /etc/sysctl.conf. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
-- On March 17, 2012 at 12:19 AM "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken > > > > > > > > Happy Computer Users (for now), systemd is on your horizon. > > > > Houston, we have a problem! > > You can always try Walter's et. al. mdev re

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > > > On March 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: > > >> Alan, the "vast majority" of Linux users right now are phone users. > >> At least, that's how I see it. > >> Again, think about phones. And tablets. And TVs. And >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
On March 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > Alan, the "vast majority" of Linux users right now are phone users. > At least, that's how I see it. > Again, think about phones. And tablets. And TVs. And > [insert-here-cool-gadgets-from-the-future]. > Right now Linux runs in my

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: >  This item just appeared after eix-sync: > > HTPC ~ # eselect news read > 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking >  Title                     udev-181 unmasking >  Author                    William Hubbs >  Posted                    2012-03-16 >  

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 17, 2012 9:54 AM, "Walter Dnes" wrote: > > The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at > http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple > of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and > Midori. Any comments from users of othe

[gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-16 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
This item just appeared after eix-sync: HTPC ~ # eselect news read 2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking Title udev-181 unmasking AuthorWilliam Hubbs Posted2012-03-16 Revision 1 udev-181 is being unmasked on 2012-03-19

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

2012-03-16 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: > The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at > http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple > of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and > Midori. Any comments from users of other browsers? The page will be

[gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

2012-03-16 Thread Walter Dnes
The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and Midori. Any comments from users of other browsers? The page will be permanently "under constru

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
>> Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for >> /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?  I've disabled some backlight >> stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears.  I get screen >> backlight control on my laptop if I do: > > Probably from the intel video driver (i915 or

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
>> Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for >> /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?  I've disabled some backlight >> stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears.  I get screen >> backlight control on my laptop if I do: >> >> echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backligh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
>> >   I do have baselayout1.start/stop stuff so it seems our systems are >> > fairly different. >> >> My new install doesn't have them, but all of my old installs do have >> them and 'equery b /etc/local.d/baselayout1.start' comes back with >> nothing so I don't think they're being installed anymo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:06:17 -0700, Grant wrote: > >   I do have baselayout1.start/stop stuff so it seems our systems are > > fairly different. > > My new install doesn't have them, but all of my old installs do have > them and 'equery b /etc/local.d/baselayout1.start' comes back with > nothing

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:44:03 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > This is for running programs from the computer against the device, not > > autorunning programs on the device - such as initialising USB > > modems. > > How long till autorunning programs becomes "the next great thing" on > the desk

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Looking at the Gentoo amd64 install guide here:

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>> Looking at the Gentoo amd64 install guide here: >>> >>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Grant wrote: > Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?  I've disabled some backlight > stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears.  I get screen > backlight control on my laptop if I do: Probab

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Looking at the Gentoo amd64 install guide here: >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=8 >> >> it appears that the recommendation is to mount pr

Re: [gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Grant wrote: > Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?  I've disabled some backlight > stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears.  I get screen > backlight control on my laptop if I do: > > ech

[gentoo-user] Where does /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight come from?

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
Does anyone know which kernel option would be responsible for /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight? I've disabled some backlight stuff in the kernel but the directory still appears. I get screen backlight control on my laptop if I do: echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
[snip] >> Hey Mark, I'm happy to say I just fixed the screen backlighting on my >> system, but I'm sorry to say I don't think it will help you with >> keyboard backlighting.  To fix it, I removed 'acpi_backlight=vendor' >> from grub and added 'echo 0 > >> /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/bright

Re: [gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > I've been trying to debug a problem where one laptop's networking, as > controlled by wicd, seems to randomly go offline once in awhile. In > the process of reviewing 5 machines I ran across an inconsistency > across a bunch of my machines, new

[gentoo-user] To mount or not to Mount proc, that is the question

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
I've been trying to debug a problem where one laptop's networking, as controlled by wicd, seems to randomly go offline once in awhile. In the process of reviewing 5 machines I ran across an inconsistency across a bunch of my machines, new and old. It seems some of them mount proc in fstab while oth

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >   acpi_listen on n-ArrowUp/Dn does produce a response so maybe I > don't have something properly mapped? It seems that on this Asus laptop the Fn-Arrow keys are mapped to audio events of some type. (Reading xev responses) Looking at my keyb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Grant wrote: >> Grant, >>   Sorry I missed this thread earlier. I've got an Asus 17" laptop >> that I've been trying unsuccessfully to get the keyboard backlighting >> to work correctly for weeks (maybe months - I no longer remember how >> long) On my machine I g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
On my just-released Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook, I can control the backlight with 'xbacklight -set 0' and 'xbacklight -set 100'.  Any other values cause the screen to blink and flash.  The keyboard backlight shortcuts don't work unless I map them to xbacklight 0 and 100.  Also xbackli

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Grant wrote: >>> On my just-released Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook, I can control the backlight >>> with 'xbacklight -set 0' and 'xbacklight -set 100'.  Any other values >>> cause the screen to blink and flash.  The keyboard backlight shortcuts >>> don't work unless I map

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-16 Thread Dale
Mike Edenfield wrote: >> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > >> This has been one of my points too. I could go out and buy me a bluetooth >> mouse/keyboard but I don't because it to complicates matters. > > I had a long reply to Walt that I (probably wisely) decided not to send, but > the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Backlight problems

2012-03-16 Thread Grant
>> On my just-released Dell XPS 13 Ultrabook, I can control the backlight >> with 'xbacklight -set 0' and 'xbacklight -set 100'.  Any other values >> cause the screen to blink and flash.  The keyboard backlight shortcuts >> don't work unless I map them to xbacklight 0 and 100.  Also xbacklight >> d

Re: [gentoo-user] How are Fn-F# ACPI events mapped?

2012-03-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:27 AM, YoYo Siska wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:23:28PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Hi, >>    I'm trying to figure out how my Asus laptop maps function key >> events. This is being driven by an emerge message telling me that the >> acpi4asus package is being obsole

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on compiz problems

2012-03-16 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi Nilesh! Am 16.03.2012 13:49, schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: > I think you need to be present in the video group. I am; > Clearly the problem is because access is denied to your video card. > Just ls -l /dev/nvidiactl (you should see group video there) tamer@office ~ $ ls -lA /dev/nvidiactl crw-r

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday, March 16, 2012 08:46:05 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:46 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > Auto-starting programs when a device is added. Great, when are we > > getting "autostart" support for CDs and USB-keys and under which > > user-account will these be executed?

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on compiz problems

2012-03-16 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi! > I am running a stable port of gentoo with gnome 2.31.1 and I want to run > compiz. > > How do I run compiz proparly?! I am pretty sure, that I do something > wrong. For any advise, I would thank you. > > > Tamer > > > > When I open gnome

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I trigger kernel panic?

2012-03-16 Thread Dale
Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: > Just to be sure, r e i s u b may be input in low case, without shift, right? > > Like hold Alt + SysRq and type r e i s u b then release Alt + SysRq? > > As the most experienced user of SysReq, that is correct. Thank hal for all the experience too. Tha

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Walter. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:55:53PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 04:17:14AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote > > Hi, Gentoo. > > Yes, I've got Gnome going under mdev. Thanks to Mike Edenfield for > > the tip about needing to configure things in xorg.conf. > > Her

[gentoo-user] gentoo on compiz problems

2012-03-16 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi! I am running a stable port of gentoo with gnome 2.31.1 and I want to run compiz. How do I run compiz proparly?! I am pretty sure, that I do something wrong. For any advise, I would thank you. Tamer When I open gnome-terminal (shell) and run "compiz-manager" I get the following output: t

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager-0.9.1 broken?

2012-03-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Solved with patch from: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329987

Re: [gentoo-user] decrypt a use flag - how to

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 15:54, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > when I do > > emerge -vp sys-libs/glibc > > I see the use flag    (-nls%*) > What are these special characters '(' '%' and '*' about? > man emerge contains the complete information, search for "%" ;-) But, in a nutshell: The parens

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 15:41, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, March 16, 2012 02:54:16 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: >> What I have in mind for "helper scripts" would be (for example) a >> script to ensure that, on boot, ethernet devices will maintain their >> relative order. This needs to be stuck i

[gentoo-user] decrypt a use flag - how to

2012-03-16 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, when I do emerge -vp sys-libs/glibc I see the use flag(-nls%*) What are these special characters '(' '%' and '*' about? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:39:44 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > Technically, we are all using an initramfs as all 2.6/3 kernels mount > > an initramfs when they load. If does not contain an init script, they > > fall back to the legacy behaviour. > > > > See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystem

Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:46 +0100, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > Auto-starting programs when a device is added. Great, when are we > getting "autostart" support for CDs and USB-keys and under which > user-account will these be executed? This is for running programs from the computer against the devi

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday, March 16, 2012 02:54:16 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 14:32, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 08:41:48AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote > > > > > Hmmm... are you planning to host an overlay? > > > > > > If so, I'll be willing to donate some of my time to pr

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 14:32, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 08:41:48AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote > > > Hmmm... are you planning to host an overlay? > > > > If so, I'll be willing to donate some of my time to provide some patched > > ebuilds for packages that can function without

Re: [gentoo-user] mdev + xorg + Gnome up and running. :-)

2012-03-16 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 08:41:48AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote > Hmmm... are you planning to host an overlay? > > If so, I'll be willing to donate some of my time to provide some patched > ebuilds for packages that can function without udev but lazily specify > DEPEND=sys-fs/udev... I wouldn't c