Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:57, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> Canek, how to best tell the gentoo-devs about all these files? >> Filing bugs for every single file? > > Yeah, to the package in question. Probably with a CC to the systemd > team, so they add the unit file if the maintainer takes too much to >

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 27.08.2013 22:40, schrieb Francisco Ares: >> >> I think I might have found it. Although I have selected in the kernel >> "menuconfig" to compress the initramfs using gzip and deselected all other >> decompression forms. a simple "file initramfs-xxx" told me that it was "XZ >> compressed data",

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 28.08.2013 08:03, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > Had problems configuring the static network inside a gentoo VM. > > The network never came up but when I logged in and started the > network.service manually it worked. Strange. before you ask: yes, the service was enabled correctly (double-

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Had problems configuring the static network inside a gentoo VM. The network never came up but when I logged in and started the network.service manually it worked. Strange. The mentioned service-file was the one here (my posting with /bin/ip): http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Systemd-and-stat

[gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?

2013-08-27 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:57:20 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 27/08/2013 04:06, »Q« wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:02:32 +0200 > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > >> That list is the list of kernels that nVidia supports, which is > >> easy to find. > > > > Where? AIUI from reading various thread

Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-27 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Aug 27 2013, Dale wrote: > gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> I was away for two weeks. I just resynced and see that 2.2.1 is now in >> testing (and my current version 2.1.13.1 is not in the tree). >> >> Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands >> from 2.1.x.y will

Re: [gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-27 Thread Dale
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > I was away for two weeks. I just resynced and see that 2.2.1 is now in > testing (and my current version 2.1.13.1 is not in the tree). > > Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands > from 2.1.x.y will continue to work? I know that several r

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 27 Aug 2013 22:09:12 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > man 5 make.conf also documents FEATURES=news > > Oddly enough, we all know how to enable FEATURES (just add to the list), > > but I have no idea how to disable them! > > > > I don't ha

[gentoo-user] portage 2.2 in ~amd64

2013-08-27 Thread gottlieb
I was away for two weeks. I just resynced and see that 2.2.1 is now in testing (and my current version 2.1.13.1 is not in the tree). Am I correct in believing that when I upgrade to 2.2.1, all the commands from 2.1.x.y will continue to work? I know that several readers have used 2.2 for years wi

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/27/2013 05:09 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> man 5 make.conf also documents FEATURES=news >> Oddly enough, we all know how to enable FEATURES (just add to the list), >> but I have no idea how to disable them! >> >> I don't have news in m

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > man 5 make.conf also documents FEATURES=news > Oddly enough, we all know how to enable FEATURES (just add to the list), > but I have no idea how to disable them! > > I don't have news in my FEATURES but I do get the newsitems. Is > > FEATURES

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> That's a question of packaging and bundling, which is not covered by the > >> GPL. But kernel code and kernel modules are not mere bundles, they are > >> derivative works by virtue of how tightly they integrate with the > >> kernel, and how the code can only ever run unc

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 22:52, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com: > Omit the braces. thanks ... doesn't work here anyway ... because $INTFTPD_OPTS also includes ${INTFTPD_PATH} from within /etc/conf.d/in.tftpd (which can't be resolved this way). What works: EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd ExecStart=/usr

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 22:19, Jarry wrote: > On 27-Aug-13 21:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 27/08/2013 18:35, Jarry wrote: >>> >>> I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? >>> >>> Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only >>> on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off >>> on rem

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 11:26, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But you are correct that the problem seem

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 20:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > No bugs filed yet for these: > > in.tftpd mythbackend nfs server vixie-cron rsync Filed some related bugs now: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482712 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482714 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 27.08.2013 18:46, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > > >> Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ... > > > > For the records: > > > > # tftpd.service > > > > [Unit] > > Description=hpa's original TFTP daem

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon wrote: > The permissions issue is an artifact of how NFS works. Sun designed it > to deliver entire filesystems over the network (most often /usr and-or > /home) to trusted clients. "trusted" being the operative word. To get > Unix permissions to work, the uid on the share and clien

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Neil Bothwick > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:31:05 -0300, Francisco Ares wrote: > > > Any hints on how to diagnose a initramfs? AFAIK it is a filesystem. > > How can I mount it to check its contents? > > > http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/ > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares > > 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares > >> >> 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares >> >>> >>> 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares >>> 2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke > Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: > > Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. > > > > Please forgive

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 11:08, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed >>> source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But >>> you are correct that the problem seem to be humans and not a license te

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > > While we are at it ... > > > > I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and > > runs with systemd already. > > > > I am fiddling with service-files for: > > > > mysql > > my

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Jarry
On 27-Aug-13 21:59, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/08/2013 18:35, Jarry wrote: I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off on remaining 5... It's in the mail headers:

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Wang Xuerui
在 2013-8-28 上午4:03,"Alan McKinnon" 写道: > > On 27/08/2013 18:35, Jarry wrote: > > Hi Gentoo-users, > > > > I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? > > > > Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only > > on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off > > on remaining 5... > >

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, wrote: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, wrote: > >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: > >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> >> > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 18:35, Jarry wrote: > Hi Gentoo-users, > > I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? > > Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only > on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off > on remaining 5... > > Jarry It's in the mail headers:

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 21:24, jo...@antarean.org wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: > > On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was > what it lets >

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread joost
Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was what it >lets >>> me as the admin do: >>> >>> I get all the benefits of directories with none of the downsides. >>> I get all

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:07:58 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > There are plenty of links on the zfsforlinux site. > > > > "on" Linux, not "for" Linux ... http://zfsonlinux.org/ That one too ;-) -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, give up. No use being a damn fool. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 20:12, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > What was/is missing (on my specific server) ? I quickly browsed bugs.gentoo.org ... libvirtd: I was wrong! The ebuild brings service-files. No bugs filed yet for these: in.tftpd mythbackend nfs server vixie-cron rsync mysqld has a related b

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 20:15, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> While mythtv isn't really mainstream there are other daemons in this >> list that really *should* be supported with USE="systemd", I assume >> (sure, mythtv should get its file as well ...). > > No; the unit files should be installed by default

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 20:12, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> slowly getting there ... > > Ok, I think I got that done. > > Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant > services up and running. Looks good! > > What was/is

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> slowly getting there ... > > Ok, I think I got that done. > > Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant > services up and running. Looks good! > > What

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 19:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > slowly getting there ... Ok, I think I got that done. Compared my /etc/runlevels/default and checked if I have all relevant services up and running. Looks good! What was/is missing (on my specific server) ? services and sockets for: in.tftp

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:57, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> Canek, how to best tell the gentoo-devs about all these files? >> Filing bugs for every single file? > > Yeah, to the package in question. Probably with a CC to the systemd > team, so they add the unit file if the maintainer takes too much to >

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 19:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > For now: > > ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd /mnt/mypxe And wrong again, it needs "-s" as well. Sorry for the noise! ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /mnt/mypxe - For NFS I copied most out of this Wiki: http://gentoo-en.vfose.ru/wiki/Systemd#N

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:46, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ... > > For the records: > > # tftpd.service > > [Unit] > Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon > > [Service] > EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.t

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ... > > For the records: > > # tftpd.service > > [Unit] > Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon > > [Service] > EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Nearly there ... it also needs a socket ... For the records: # tftpd.service [Unit] Description=hpa's original TFTP daemon [Service] EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/in.tftpd ExecStart=/usr/sbin/in.tftpd ${INTFTPD_OPTS} StandardInput=socket Stand

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:35, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 27.08.2013 18:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >>> I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts >>> for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. >> >> mythtv-Wiki provided a service file ... I

[gentoo-user] How can I unsubscribe from gentoo-news?

2013-08-27 Thread Jarry
Hi Gentoo-users, I'd like to stop receiving news, how can I do that? Or better said, I'd like to receive gentoo-news only on one of my 6 servers, and turn this feature off on remaining 5... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails onl

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> I don't use mythbackend nor tftp-hpa, but if you have the init scripts >> for them it should be easy to write the corresponding unit files. > > mythtv-Wiki provided a service file ... I will check after mysqld ... up and running after a reboo

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 27.08.2013 18:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger >> wrote: >>> >>> While we are at it ... >>> >>> I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and >>> ru

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 18:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> While we are at it ... >> >> I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and >> runs with systemd already. >> >> I am fiddling with service-files for: >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 17:55, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-27 9:03 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> It's a small image (<100M compressed), so just keep a copy handy >> somewhere and reflash. The GUI has a function where you can backup the >> running config, a restore is a simple matter of click restore in the

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > While we are at it ... > > I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and > runs with systemd already. > > I am fiddling with service-files for: > > mysql > mythbackend > tftp-hpa > > (more to come) > > working

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 9:03 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's a small image (<100M compressed), so just keep a copy handy somewhere and reflash. The GUI has a function where you can backup the running config, a restore is a simple matter of click restore in the GUI The USBstick/CF card you boot off will kee

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
While we are at it ... I am currently migrating one of my basement servers ... it boots and runs with systemd already. I am fiddling with service-files for: mysql mythbackend tftp-hpa (more to come) working my way through ... making arch-linux-files fit etc. If someone already has those for

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, wrote: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: > >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: > >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> >> > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-08-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/27/2013 10:36 AM, William Kenworthy wrote: > I used to use "dlint" for this, but the package no longer builds easily > - is there any equivalent package as dig is not ideal to find what the > problem actually is? > The 'donuts' tool from net-dns/dnssec-tools can supposedly do this, if you c

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: >> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek P

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: > >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > On Mon, Aug

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-08-27 Thread William Kenworthy
I used to use "dlint" for this, but the package no longer builds easily - is there any equivalent package as dig is not ideal to find what the problem actually is? BillK On 27/08/13 19:53, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 27/08/2013 12:30, Grant wrote: >> I use a fairly well-known (free) DNS provider.

Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-08-27 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 27 Aug 2013 09:10:39 Grant wrote: > How is PMTUD enabled/disabled on Gentoo? I've recently been made > aware of the existence of MTU and I'm wondering if mine is set > properly for a cell phone tethered connection. > > - Grant # sysctl -A | grep -i pmtu net.ipv4.ip_no_pmtu_disc = 0 ne

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 27/08/13 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been a

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:34:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? > > There are plenty of links on the zfsforlinux site. > "on" Linux, not "for" Linux ... http://zfsonlinux.org/ :-) Th

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: >> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, wrote: >> >> >> Hi. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:37:54 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > I already posted the script I use to do exactly that. > > > > emerge gentoo-sources > > run the script > > > > I wonder it it would be possible to have the spl and zfs-kmod ebuilds > > do this with an appropriate USE flag. > > Thats what

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:34:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? There are plenty of links on the zfsforlinux site. -- Neil Bothwick BING But It's Not Google signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.08.2013 14:34, schrieb Tanstaafl: > On 2013-08-26 11:51 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> Then the 6 disks as JBOD and use it within a RAIDZ2 array. >> >> Or, 6 disks in JBOD, add them a 3 ZFS mirror vdev's. > > Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? > > RAID types, Best

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 15:11, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-27 9:03 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Each major.minor version has a .pdf manual published, while the next >> version is in development, the docs get updated on a wiki and the final >> version is an export of that. There's a forum with knowledgeable

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 9:03 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Each major.minor version has a .pdf manual published, while the next version is in development, the docs get updated on a wiki and the final version is an export of that. There's a forum with knowledgeable users and the devs hang around just in case re

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 14:05, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-27 7:42 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> I'm wondering what the best way would be to get something set up for ZFS >>> file storage. I have some older servers that I can use, so was leaning >>> toward FreeNAS...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about java SDK ebuilds for linux

2013-08-27 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 27/08/13 at 12:04pm, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: > Am 2013-08-26 18:40, schrieb James: > > Wolfgang Liebich siemens-enterprise.com> writes: > > > >> > >> Hi, > >> I'm using GENTOO linux as development platform for Java applications. > >> JAVA 8 is not officially out there, but still I would like to

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 8:25 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:33:52 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Ummm... I didn't suggest that ZFS be shipped with or distributed with the kernel... I was talking about some kind of overlay or patch system, where I could add zfs to my kernel use flag, and it wo

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-26 11:51 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Then the 6 disks as JBOD and use it within a RAIDZ2 array. Or, 6 disks in JBOD, add them a 3 ZFS mirror vdev's. Where is the best docs for understanding and working with ZFS? RAID types, Best Practices (especially for disaster recovery), etc... An

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:33:52 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Ummm... I didn't suggest that ZFS be shipped with or distributed with > the kernel... > > I was talking about some kind of overlay or patch system, where I could > add zfs to my kernel use flag, and it would pull the gentoo-sources > from w

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:31:05 -0300, Francisco Ares wrote: > Any hints on how to diagnose a initramfs? AFAIK it is a filesystem. > How can I mount it to check its contents? http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/ -- Neil Bothwick Why is the word abbrevi

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares > > 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares > >> >> 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares >> >>> >>> 2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke >>> Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: > Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. > > Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig a

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-27 7:42 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: I'm wondering what the best way would be to get something set up for ZFS file storage. I have some older servers that I can use, so was leaning toward FreeNAS... Mine are HP mini-servers (the cube shaped ones)

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 12:30, Grant wrote: > I use a fairly well-known (free) DNS provider. I just checked my DNS > settings at dnscheck.pingdom.com and I got: > > 1. No SOA record was found when querying the name server. This is most > probably due to a misconfiguration at the name server - a zone must >

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 13:36, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was what it lets >> me as the admin do: >> >> I get all the benefits of directories with none of the downsides. >> I get all the benefits of mount points w

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-26 2:23 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was what it lets me as the admin do: I get all the benefits of directories with none of the downsides. I get all the benefits of mount points with none of the downsides. I get all the benefits of

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares > > 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares > >> >> 2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke >> >>> Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: >>> > Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. >>> > >>> > Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig and >>> > grub2-install. The mentioned grub

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Wang Xuerui > 2013/8/27 Francisco Ares : > > In regard of file systems, > > it only loads a ext2 module, and the root partition is ext4 formated. > > > > Although this kernel has ext2, ext3 and ext4 built in (not modules), can > > this be a cue? Right now I am preparing to format the r

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Tanstaafl
Ummm... I didn't suggest that ZFS be shipped with or distributed with the kernel... I was talking about some kind of overlay or patch system, where I could add zfs to my kernel use flag, and it would pull the gentoo-sources from wherver it pulls them, and pul;l the patch from a *separate*/*dif

[gentoo-user] {OT} DNS: no SOA record or DNSSEC

2013-08-27 Thread Grant
I use a fairly well-known (free) DNS provider. I just checked my DNS settings at dnscheck.pingdom.com and I got: 1. No SOA record was found when querying the name server. This is most probably due to a misconfiguration at the name server - a zone must have a SOA record. 2. Nameserver * does not

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares > > 2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke > >> Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: >> > Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. >> > >> > Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig and >> > grub2-install. The mentioned grub.cfg was a sample from a working >> syst

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Wang Xuerui
2013/8/27 Francisco Ares : > In regard of file systems, > it only loads a ext2 module, and the root partition is ext4 formated. > > Although this kernel has ext2, ext3 and ext4 built in (not modules), can > this be a cue? Right now I am preparing to format the root partition as > ext2, just to che

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot

2013-08-27 Thread Francisco Ares
2013/8/27 Michael Hampicke > Am 26.08.2013 20:11, schrieb Francisco Ares: > > Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. > > > > Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig and > > grub2-install. The mentioned grub.cfg was a sample from a working system, > > with legacy grub:0, from which I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Questions about java SDK ebuilds for linux

2013-08-27 Thread Wolfgang Liebich
Am 2013-08-26 18:40, schrieb James: Wolfgang Liebich siemens-enterprise.com> writes: Hi, I'm using GENTOO linux as development platform for Java applications. JAVA 8 is not officially out there, but still I would like to start testing it, and there are "early access" downloads at the oracle w

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed > > > source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But > > > you are correct that the problem seem to be humans and not a license text. > > > > Yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed > > source than with a license that gives more freedom than the GPL? But > > you are correct that the problem seem to be humans and not a license text. > > You are aware that the GPL was not reall

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > The law can! > > > > The GPL is in conflict with the law and therefore the parts you have in > > mind > > are just void. > > Which law is the GPL in conflict with, and in which jurisdiction, and > what is the extent of the conflict? The GPL is in conflict with US Copy

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 09:53, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> The issue is that the Linux kernel devs consider the license terms for >> ZFS to be incompatible with GPL-2.0 and therefore ZFS cannot be >> redistributed as a Linux kernel module. > > Isn't it strange that those people seem

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 09:59, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> People who believe that there is a problem use a wrong interpretation of >>> the >>> GPL. The CDDL definitely does not prevent combinations with other software. >> >> The problem is not with CDDL, the problem is with the G

[gentoo-user] PMTUD

2013-08-27 Thread Grant
How is PMTUD enabled/disabled on Gentoo? I've recently been made aware of the existence of MTU and I'm wondering if mine is set properly for a cell phone tethered connection. - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > People who believe that there is a problem use a wrong interpretation of > > the > > GPL. The CDDL definitely does not prevent combinations with other software. > > The problem is not with CDDL, the problem is with the GPL. > > ZFS in the kernel requires that ZFS as shi

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon wrote: > The issue is that the Linux kernel devs consider the license terms for > ZFS to be incompatible with GPL-2.0 and therefore ZFS cannot be > redistributed as a Linux kernel module. Isn't it strange that those people seem to have less problems with closed source than with a

Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units

2013-08-27 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:10 AM, wrote: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés > >> wrote: > >> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, wrote: > >> >> Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I hav

Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

2013-08-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thomas Mueller wrote: > On the issue of whether ZFS can be shipped with the Linux kernel, FreeBSD > includes ZFS with the kernel, binary and source. > > So does that mean it would be OK for Linux too? > > FreeBSD has a different license (BSD) than Linux (GPL 2 or 3). For FreeBSD, things are les

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?

2013-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2013 09:14, Pandu Poluan wrote: That list is the list of kernels that nVidia supports, which is easy > >> to find. >>> > > >>> > > Where? AIUI from reading various threads about this, sometimes that >>> > > info can be found in nVidia's developer web forum, but I've never been >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?

2013-08-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 27/08/2013 04:06, »Q« wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:02:32 +0200 > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > >> On 26/08/2013 03:52, »Q« wrote: > I doubt your wiki page idea will work, it will be just accurate > enough > > to look