RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-30 Thread Dee Knapp
f Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:33 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing. I just got around to searching for Paint.NET I can't find it. Can you post a URL? Thanks Kevin --- David Sommers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-30 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I just got around to searching for Paint.NET I can't find it. Can you post a URL? Thanks Kevin --- David Sommers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find that the most flexible license is one that > doesn't exist - such > as Public Domain. > > One of my favorite little programs is a Photoshop > li

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Mark Street
tent. > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Jim Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:43 PM > >Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing. > > > >>I don't understand why suddenly there

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Jim Self
t;From: "Jim Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:43 PM >Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing. > > >>I don't understand why suddenly there is so much repetition on this list of >>the mistaken >> notion th

RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread David Sommers
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:07 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing. I think there is a distinction being made between varieties of open source. I don&#x

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Maury Pepper
ust thought I'd lob another grenade into the tent. - Original Message - From: "Jim Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing. >I don't understand why suddenly there is so much repetit

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
What I see are plans to release something or another (various patches and enhancements? new modules? the whole thing?) under the name "OpenVistA". That makes little sense, given that VistA was originally built by VA employees long before WorldVistA or Hardhats.org even existed. The GPL just doe

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I think there is a distinction being made between varieties of open source. I don't think anyone is trying to say that public domain isn't open source. On Sunday 24 April 2005 08:43 pm, Jim Self wrote: > I don't understand why suddenly there is so much repetition on this list of > the mistaken

RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Roy Gaber
You are absolutely correct, I stand corrected. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:44 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing. I don't under

RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Jim Self
I don't understand why suddenly there is so much repetition on this list of the mistaken notion that software in the Public Domain is not Open Source. It is surely the oldest form of Open Source and has been accepted as such since the term "Open Source" was originated. It was explicitly added to

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
It's the process not the license that really mattersPublic Domain could work just as well as an "open source" license in providing a collaborative medium if improvements are made available to others via public domainbut IMHO it is naive to expect this to happen given the past 15+ years

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
I should add that we're discussing OpenVistA of course and not FOIA VistA or any other name to replace OpenVistA as pointed out by Nancy. Molly Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Ignacio, The games, nay, the discussions started seriously in two other mailing lists last year, Vista-vendors and Vista-open-sour

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Ignacio, The games, nay, the discussions started seriously in two other mailing lists last year, Vista-vendors and Vista-open-source on yahoogroups. That discussion fizzled out... simply because the decision making entity isn't the discussants. Maury just reminded us of the existence of vista-o

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Doctor Bones
Exactly, it couldn't, but the install routines, the additional modules, the documentation (non-VA) all of that could. My little attempt at getting greek to work even though it isn't much more than a hack and a hack explained to me by others could. And that could aid other Greek or foreign language

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I can understand how new modules (a.k.a packages) built on top of VistA infrastructure could be licensed under GPL, but I cannot believe that software obtained via FOIA could simply "declared" to be open source. Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 24, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Roy Gaber wrot

RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA licensing.

2005-04-24 Thread Roy Gaber
VistA is Public Domain, not Open Source, always has been, always (at least should) will be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ignacio Valdes Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:38 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-me