David Crayford wrote:
>Right, but zCX is not free.
Actually it’s no additional charge for 90 days. However, “it’s not free” is not
a meaningful argument. It’s *never* free to run applications in an enterprise
context at least. What matters is whether there’s sufficient or better
I messed about with this back in the day; it worked well.
http://gsf-soft.com/Documents/ISX390.html
Subject: Re: Use of zCX
From: "PINION, RICHARD W."
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 18:52:08 +
Does anybody hear remember a software product from a Russian company that
allowed one to run Linux as
an
>>Early 2001. Possibly included to run VSE in a z/OS address space to
>>aid migration?
>>
>DUO (DOS Under OS)?
If memory serves, DUO was around way before as one of the products acquired
when CA bought UCCEL. I have a recollection of seeing a manual in the blue
binders that I think CA
On 22/4/22 03:35, Charles Mills wrote:
I am not a "corporate shop" guy but apparently "put up a VM LPAR" is a huge political
leap for many z/OS shops. The idea is facilitating "if we could just get one instance of Linux up under
z/OS we could show that to senior management and take it from
On 22/4/22 05:32, Phil Smith III wrote:
Linux on Z in
general seems to be fading, which makes me very sad: several of the poster
children have backed away completely
Don't mean to put you on the spot Phil, but can you elaborate? Is there
a big drop off in Linux on Z users? Did the poster
zCX is part of new hardware exploitation. IBM still sells mainframes and
needs software to exploit the great new hardware features. The flip side
is that such software runs well only on the new hardware. For zCX you
pretty much need to be on z15 or even z16 to start seeing the great
benefits.
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 16:32:40 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote:
>
>>What incremental skill set is required for the respective alternatives?
>>I once inquired on another form whether a VM LPAR only for Linux
>>might be administered with no CMS skill required. Alan Altmark
>> (IIRC) answered, neither
That's a nice, positive view, Matt. Still doesn't quite make sense to me
yet, but I'm willing to believe it. Not convinced it made sense as a use of
very limited resources at this stage of the game, though. Linux on Z in
general seems to be fading, which makes me very sad: several of the poster
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 20:55:49 +, Mike Schwab wrote:
>Early 2001. Possibly included to run VSE in a z/OS address space to
>aid migration?
>
DUO (DOS Under OS)?
>On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 6:52 PM PINION, RICHARD W. wrote:
>>
>> Does anybody hear remember a software product from a Russian company
A little bit of rationale on the question and why I think this is important.
As everyone has demonstrated there is deep z/OS skill in shops and it will be
needed now and into the future. All of us plan to retire so to keep Z relevant
we need to transfer our skills to the up and comers. There
Early 2001. Possibly included to run VSE in a z/OS address space to
aid migration?
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 6:52 PM PINION, RICHARD W.
wrote:
>
> Does anybody hear remember a software product from a Russian company that
> allowed one to run Linux as
> an address space under OS/390? If memory
Gil asked:
>What incremental skill set is required for the respective alternatives?
>I once inquired on another form whether a VM LPAR only for Linux
>might be administered with no CMS skill required. Alan Altmark
> (IIRC) answered, neither practical nor desirable in view of the
>superiority of
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 12:35:10 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>I am not a "corporate shop" guy but apparently "put up a VM LPAR" is a huge
>political leap for many z/OS shops. The idea is facilitating "if we could just
>get one instance of Linux up under z/OS we could show that to senior
I am not a "corporate shop" guy but apparently "put up a VM LPAR" is a huge
political leap for many z/OS shops. The idea is facilitating "if we could just
get one instance of Linux up under z/OS we could show that to senior management
and take it from there." Hence zCX.
Charles
-Original
Does anybody hear remember a software product from a Russian company that
allowed one to run Linux as
an address space under OS/390? If memory serves me correctly, I think this was
in the 1990's, possible early
2000's.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
>It likes a LOT of real memory and it appears that the running instance
consumes the full amount of real memory allocated to it for the duration,
making it unavailable to zOS for paging or any other use.
Well, sure-that memory use is Linux caching files in memory. This has all
been explored,
I agree with Robert's objections to zCX, and, frankly, If all a site wants to
do is run zLinux applications on an IBM z system, it is much simpler (and
perhaps cheaper) to just install z/VM on the box and then host as many Linux
guests as you want. No extra external tooling is needed; just use
www.cbttape.org is now back up.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
“Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you
are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden
-Original
>It can be found at https://www.cbttapes.org/updates.htm - where all the
>updates can be found.
>CUCI is in FILE 967
My apologies, as Lionel points out above, the file number is 967.
www.cbttape.org is currently down, and they are working diligently to get it
back up, so if you can't get
Hmm, Dadaists object to capitalist society and are into irrational
nonsense. Not sure about the first part, but the second definitely sounds
like a lot of content on this forum.
I can only imagine what a Dadaist database would be like--return data from
random rows, I suppose?
On Wed, Apr 20,
Not exactly, as I left out that there is also column D and E which may have
different values.
>From your comment it would appear that this is a lot more difficult..
On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 00:13:00 +0200 Bernd Oppolzer
wrote:
:>If the results in col1, col2 and col3 may be different for the same
EA/s/ Anthony L. Zak
Original message From: Sean Gleann
Date: 4/21/22 2:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:
[IBM-MAIN] Use of zCX @Robert Garrett (with a sigh of relief!) 15 minutes for
z/CX to come up ona z/OS under z/VM at Dallas? Me too. I
/s/ Anthony L. ZakJo,z
Original message From: Sean Gleann
Date: 4/21/22 2:57 AM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:
[IBM-MAIN] Use of zCX @Robert Garrett (with a sigh of relief!) 15 minutes for
z/CX to come up ona z/OS under z/VM at Dallas? Me too. I
Tom - congratulations on another great release
It can be found at https://www.cbttapes.org/updates.htm - where all the updates
can be found.
CUCI is in FILE 967
Lionel B. Dyck <><
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
“Worry more about your character than
@Robert Garrett (with a sigh of relief!) 15 minutes for z/CX to come up on
a z/OS under z/VM at Dallas? Me too. I thought I was doing something
wrong, but couldn't get any useful feedback from IBM/Dallas about the
'problem'.
Sean
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 at 04:57, kekronbekron <
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