[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > only people with people with php.net accounts or with manually granted > voting wiki group membership can vote. > I have no idea who or on what ground can hand out voting ground membership, > last time when somebody requested that (William, l

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Leigh
On Mar 2, 2013 12:26 AM, "Ferenc Kovacs" wrote: > only people with people with php.net accounts or with manually granted > voting wiki group membership can vote. > I have no idea who or on what ground can hand out voting ground membership, > last time when somebody requested that (William, lead of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Current Status of O+ on Windows

2013-03-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Christopher Jones wrote: > Can you put your O+ php.ini settings up there as well? All default, especially for symfony tests, which must have the comment setting enabled (while some tests still fail even if the settings are enabled). > Did you experiment with any

Re: [PHP-DEV] Current Status of O+ on Windows

2013-03-01 Thread Christopher Jones
On 03/01/2013 04:15 PM, Matt Ficken wrote: I am testing O+ on Windows with php 5.3, 5.4, and 5.5. I have uploaded my O+ test results here: http://windows.php.net/downloads/snaps/ostc/pftt/ Can you put your O+ php.ini settings up there as well? Did you experiment with any options? Putting t

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
2013.03.01. 22:52, "Hannes Magnusson" ezt írta: > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Johannes Schlüter > wrote: > > > > > > Derick Rethans wrote: > >>Exactly, this random apply rules nonsense needs to stop. I have nothing > >> > >>against Fabien voting but there is nowhere written who can vote or

[PHP-DEV] Current Status of O+ on Windows

2013-03-01 Thread Matt Ficken
I am testing O+ on Windows with php 5.3, 5.4, and 5.5. I have uploaded my O+ test results here: http://windows.php.net/downloads/snaps/ostc/pftt/ Crashes have increased with 5.3, 5.4 and 5.5 TS builds with Apache. TS or NTS on CLI seem fine. See http://windows.php.net/downloads/snaps/ostc/p

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Hannes Magnusson wrote: >I like the old approach better. When no clear consensus were reached, >we would vote. Anyone in the world could vote on the mailinglist, and >votes were creatively interpreted grouping people with karma vs community. > >Doing the same with polling is however difficult. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > > > Derick Rethans wrote: >>Exactly, this random apply rules nonsense needs to stop. I have nothing >> >>against Fabien voting but there is nowhere written who can vote or not >>(no, the voting RFC is too vague as well). I for one, would

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Johannes Schlüter
Derick Rethans wrote: >Exactly, this random apply rules nonsense needs to stop. I have nothing > >against Fabien voting but there is nowhere written who can vote or not >(no, the voting RFC is too vague as well). I for one, would like to see > >a much stricter list of people who can vote. I of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> How do I verify it, and which projects are applicable? > Does it depend on how many contributors it has? Users? How long it has > been around? > Commercial? OSS? Library? Framework? Applications? Websites? I've long had the same question. Not that I think I've earned such honor, believe me, but

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Hannes Magnusson > > wrote: > > > >> I am well aware of that as I am the onlyone who is monitoring user > >> requests to update the wiki. > >> > >> However when a

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mar 1, 2013 9:00 PM, "Hannes Magnusson" wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Hannes Magnusson > > wrote: > > > >> I am well aware of that as I am the onlyone who is monitoring user > >> requests to update the wiki. > >> > >> Howeve

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: > >> I am well aware of that as I am the onlyone who is monitoring user >> requests to update the wiki. >> >> However when a request comes in, like this one, about the ability to >> *vo

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > I am well aware of that as I am the onlyone who is monitoring user > requests to update the wiki. > > However when a request comes in, like this one, about the ability to > *vote* I am lost. Project lead can vote yes. Also in the case of

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Fabien Potencier >> wrote: >>> On 2/28/13 10:32 AM, Peter Cowburn wrote: cc Fabien On 28 February 2013 09:25, Hannes Magnusson

Re: [PHP-DEV] I would like to write an RFC for the addition of an internal keyword

2013-03-01 Thread Michael Morris
My thoughts are that no additional keyword is necessary - allow protected and private to be used in this scopes. A protected element of a namespace can be accessed within that namespace or any sub-namespaces, and a private element would only be visible by code in the same namespace. Hence namespa

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Fabien Potencier > > wrote: > >> > >> I just wanted to vote on some RFCs (as the project leader for > >> Symfony). > > > > I truly don't know how that works

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Pierre Joye
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Fabien Potencier > wrote: >> On 2/28/13 10:32 AM, Peter Cowburn wrote: >>> >>> cc Fabien >>> >>> On 28 February 2013 09:25, Hannes Magnusson >>> wrote: Simply registering for an wiki account doe

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP Wiki] new user: fabpot

2013-03-01 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Fabien Potencier wrote: > On 2/28/13 10:32 AM, Peter Cowburn wrote: >> >> cc Fabien >> >> On 28 February 2013 09:25, Hannes Magnusson >> wrote: >>> >>> Simply registering for an wiki account doesn't give you any karma to >>> edit anything... >>> Are you planning

Re: [PHP-DEV] Include XDebug and Suhosin Patch in Core for 5.5

2013-03-01 Thread Raymond Irving
I agree with adding XDebug to core distribution but it must be disabled by default. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Julien Pauli wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > 2013/3/1 Julien Pauli : > > > I guess the ini declaration order and then t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Include XDebug and Suhosin Patch in Core for 5.5

2013-03-01 Thread Julien Pauli
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > Hi > > 2013/3/1 Julien Pauli : > > I guess the ini declaration order and then the order the modules get > loaded > > in the engine. > > We could also look at implementing a module-load-order internally in > the zend_module struct, as

Re: [PHP-DEV] Include XDebug and Suhosin Patch in Core for 5.5

2013-03-01 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
Hi 2013/3/1 Julien Pauli : > I guess the ini declaration order and then the order the modules get loaded > in the engine. We could also look at implementing a module-load-order internally in the zend_module struct, as in some extensions like EXIF relies on mbstring, while the ZEND_MODULE_DEP()s w

Re: [PHP-DEV] I would like to write an RFC for the addition of an internal keyword

2013-03-01 Thread Julien Pauli
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Lazare Inepologlou wrote: > Hello, > > please read my comment inline... > > 2013/2/28 Sebastian Krebs > > > 2013/2/28 Jens Riisom Schultz > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > (I got "hooked off" this discussion, so I have tried to keep up by > > reading > > > the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution

2013-03-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
On 02/28/2013 02:34 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > example, XDebug has no compatibility with ZendOptimizer+ right now (at > least that I could find, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here). I tested PHPUnit with both Xdebug and ZO+ enabled and got a correct code coverage report. So at least tha

Re: [PHP-DEV] Include XDebug and Suhosin Patch in Core for 5.5

2013-03-01 Thread Julien Pauli
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > Based off of the recent discussion around pulling in ZO+ into core, I've > > come to the conclusion that we should also pull in XDebug and Suhosin > into > > core at the same time. > > Suhosin has multiple BC-incompatible and perfor

Re: [PHP-DEV] Include XDebug and Suhosin Patch in Core for 5.5

2013-03-01 Thread Julien Pauli
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:39 AM, David Muir wrote: > > On 01/03/2013, at 7:00 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > Based off of the recent discussion around pulling in ZO+ into core, I've > > come to the conclusion that we should also pull in XDebug and Suhosin > into > > core at th

Re: [PHP-DEV] Include XDebug and Suhosin Patch in Core for 5.5

2013-03-01 Thread David Muir
On 01/03/2013, at 7:00 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Hey all, > > Based off of the recent discussion around pulling in ZO+ into core, I've > come to the conclusion that we should also pull in XDebug and Suhosin into > core at the same time. > > 1. It has integration issues with ZO+ in that it h

[PHP-DEV] Error/Exception handlers chaining (Was: [PHP-DEV] Include XDebug and Suhosin Patch in Core for 5.5)

2013-03-01 Thread Patrick ALLAERT
2013/2/28 Derick Rethans : > On Thu, 28 Feb 2013, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > >> It appears that xdebug is borking generator exception handling. Without >> xdebug the following two tests pass, but with it they fail: >> >> Generator::throw() where the exception is caught in the generator >> [Zend/test