Re: Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 01 October 2011 00:12:05 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Freitag, 30. September 2011, 10:07:27 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > > will say "Platform 4.7, Plasma > > Workspaces 4.8 and application updates" (or something along those lines). > > that was not just a marketing ploy, but an atte

Fwd: Re: "gamer" mouse button shortcuts (LONG)

2011-09-30 Thread Martin Gräßlin
forgot to add kcd -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: "gamer" mouse button shortcuts (LONG) Date: Saturday 01 October 2011, 08:19:47 From: Martin Gräßlin To: Kwin, NET API, kwin styles API, kwin modules API On Friday 30 September 2011 15:14:10 Rick Stockton wrote: > I've been

"gamer" mouse button shortcuts (LONG)

2011-09-30 Thread Rick Stockton
I've been inspired by the 'shortcut doc' Thread on kwin ML. This concerns mouse devices with "extra" buttons driving our desktop, and creating mouse-based shortcuts. < SAD STORY> You may recall that, many months ago, I was encouraged to try a Qt enhancement for this. Qt consumes X11 ButtonPres

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Freitag, 30. September 2011, 10:07:27 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > will say "Platform 4.7, Plasma > Workspaces 4.8 and application updates" (or something along those lines). > that was not just a marketing ploy, but an attempt to align our public > communication with the realities that already ex

Re: Re: Who relies on Soprano::Model::statement[s]Added|Removed signals?

2011-09-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Divendres, 30 de setembre de 2011, Sebastian Trüg vàreu escriure: > of course this is for the frameworks thingi. Oh, sorry for the misinterpretation. Albert > > On 09/30/2011 07:09 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On 2011-09-30, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > >> A Divendres, 30 de setembre de 2011, S

Re: Who relies on Soprano::Model::statement[s]Added|Removed signals?

2011-09-30 Thread Sebastian Trüg
of course this is for the frameworks thingi. On 09/30/2011 07:09 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2011-09-30, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >> A Divendres, 30 de setembre de 2011, Sebastian Trüg vàreu escriure: >>> Hi lists, >>> >>> with frameworks in the building and Nepomuk probably going that >>> direc

Re: Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Divendres, 30 de setembre de 2011, Alexander Neundorf vàreu escriure: > On Thursday 29 September 2011, Andras Mantia wrote: > > On Thursday, September 29, 2011 21:43:34 Stefan Majewsky wrote: > > > Without judging on the other arguments which look very reasonable to > > > me... > > > On Thu, Sep

Re: Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Divendres, 30 de setembre de 2011, Aaron J. Seigo vàreu escriure: > On Thursday, September 29, 2011 23:57:56 Kevin Kofler wrote: > > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102175/ > > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102291/ > > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102350/ > > none of these are critica

Re: Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dijous, 29 de setembre de 2011, Scott Kitterman vàreu escriure: > On Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:47:55 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > ... > > > That is actually Dirk's plan (or at least that is what i remember from > > the Release Team BoF in Berlin). > > ... > > Are the results of this BoF

Re: Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dijous, 29 de setembre de 2011, Scott Kitterman vàreu escriure: > On Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:47:22 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > A Dijous, 29 de setembre de 2011, Scott Kitterman vàreu escriure: > > > On Thursday, September 29, 2011 08:01:00 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > On Thursday 29

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Thursday 29 September 2011, Andras Mantia wrote: > On Thursday, September 29, 2011 21:43:34 Stefan Majewsky wrote: > > Without judging on the other arguments which look very reasonable to > > me... > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Kevin Kofler > > wrote: > > > 2. It will be confusing to ou

Re: Who relies on Soprano::Model::statement[s]Added|Removed signals?

2011-09-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2011-09-30, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > A Divendres, 30 de setembre de 2011, Sebastian Trüg vàreu escriure: >> Hi lists, >> >> with frameworks in the building and Nepomuk probably going that >> direction already for 4.8 I would like to clean up a bit. One of these >> cleanup tasks targets the S

Re: Who relies on Soprano::Model::statement[s]Added|Removed signals?

2011-09-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Divendres, 30 de setembre de 2011, Sebastian Trüg vàreu escriure: > Hi lists, > > with frameworks in the building and Nepomuk probably going that > direction already for 4.8 I would like to clean up a bit. One of these > cleanup tasks targets the Soprano::Model statement signals. So far these >

Review Request: fix sycoca off by one

2011-09-30 Thread Jaime Torres Amate
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102748/ --- Review request for kdelibs and David Faure. Description --- fixing sy

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 30, 2011 04:15:51 PM Markus Slopianka wrote: > (As a side note I also think that KDE Applications should completely lose > their version number and get date-based versioning because any application > can get major new features at any time – see Dolphin 2.0 in SC 4.8.) Today,

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Donnerstag 29 September 2011 18:11:12 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Wait and see the chaos that will come up when users open their Help/About > in Konqueror and it tells them that they're using "Konqueror 4.8.0 under > KDE 4.7.6". (And yes, it still says only "KDE" in 4.6.5, I haven't checked > 4.7 or

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread David Faure
On Thursday 29 September 2011 20:01:00 Kevin Kofler wrote: > But one of my points is that we need features too, not just bugfixes. > Continuing 4.7.x releases solves the problem of bugfixes just fine, but > entirely fails to address the issue of features. But who is (or would be) working on featur

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, September 29, 2011 14:01:50 Kevin Kofler wrote: >> 2. It will be confusing to our users, and even to some packagers, to have a >> KDE SC 4.8 on kdelibs 4.7. The rule so far has always been that the kdelibs >> version must be th

Re: Who relies on Soprano::Model::statement[s]Added|Removed signals?

2011-09-30 Thread Sebastian Trüg
On 09/30/2011 01:56 PM, Alex Merry wrote: > On 30/09/11 12:36, Sebastian Trüg wrote: >> I would like to anyone using the "old" API to change to the new >> ResourceWatcher as soon as possible because I would like to disable the >> old signals soon. They simply entail to many problems and clutter the

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday, 2011-09-29, Rolf Eike Beer wrote: > The reason to stop master was (as far as I understand) to make the > frameworks branch easily to maintain. If someone is working on 4.8 > (bugfixing, features) all this has to be ported to frameworks, too. So you > develop a moving target on a movin

Re: Review Request: Fix KPasswdServer usage of KWallet

2011-09-30 Thread Dawit Alemayehu
> On Sept. 29, 2011, 8:14 p.m., Dawit Alemayehu wrote: > > Sorry, but this is simply wrong. There is a specific reason why passwords > > are not blindly saved into the wallet before they are validated. The idea > > of prompting the user for password and actually storing that password need > >

Review Request: Fix HTTPProtocol::put

2011-09-30 Thread Dawit Alemayehu
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102743/ --- Review request for kdelibs and Andreas Hartmetz. Description --- Fix

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8 (fwd)

2011-09-30 Thread Eric Hameleers
Forwarding my answer to kde-core-devel in order to give us packagers a voice outside our own closed mailing list. Cheers, Eric -- Eric Hameleers Jabber: al...@jabber.xs4all.nl -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Hameleers To: Wulf C.

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Heinz Wiesinger
On Thursday 29 September 2011 14:01:50 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > as you probably already know, a decision was recently made that kdelibs 4.7 > would be the last 4.x release series of kdelibs, and work would be ongoing > in the 5.0 (frameworks) and 4.7 (KDE/4.7) branches only. I think this is a

Re: Who relies on Soprano::Model::statement[s]Added|Removed signals?

2011-09-30 Thread Alex Merry
On 30/09/11 12:36, Sebastian Trüg wrote: I would like to anyone using the "old" API to change to the new ResourceWatcher as soon as possible because I would like to disable the old signals soon. They simply entail to many problems and clutter the API. You might want to contact developers using

Who relies on Soprano::Model::statement[s]Added|Removed signals?

2011-09-30 Thread Sebastian Trüg
Hi lists, with frameworks in the building and Nepomuk probably going that direction already for 4.8 I would like to clean up a bit. One of these cleanup tasks targets the Soprano::Model statement signals. So far these were the only way to get informed about changes in Nepomuk - with a very bad imp

Re: Review Request: Fix Object::connect: No such slot AbstractItemView::iconSettingsChanged(int)

2011-09-30 Thread Commit Hook
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102719/#review6943 --- This review has been submitted with commit 5e93e6d56c591fde0dde

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 14:01:50 Kevin Kofler wrote: > 1. This puts kdelibs 4 into maintenance mode even before KDE Frameworks 5 is > anywhere near a release, let alone versions of the workspace and > applications actually using it. As a result, we will fail to deliver new > features to our

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 23:57:56 Kevin Kofler wrote: > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102175/ > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102291/ > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102350/ none of these are critical feature additions. they elevate the usability of libplasma and are valuable,

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 23:57:53 Scott Kitterman wrote: > I don't like the fact that KDE developers decided to ignore their own policy > on maintenance updates. I think it breaks your contract with your > downstreams. In the case of what's been done so far, it doesn't have an > impact on

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-09-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 18:11:12 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Wait and see the chaos that will come up when users open their Help/About in > Konqueror and it tells them that they're using "Konqueror 4.8.0 under KDE > 4.7.6". (And yes, it still says only "KDE" in 4.6.5, I haven't checked 4.7 > or 4

Re: Review Request: Fix Object::connect: No such slot AbstractItemView::iconSettingsChanged(int)

2011-09-30 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102719/#review6941 --- Ship it! yes, the slot moved to the FolderView class itself, so