On 17 Mar 02, at 6:01, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> I like the Power-PC based stuff. If (more like when) the company I'm
> currently working for craters, I'm thinking about designing/building a PPC
> based embedded system that would run LEAF (or some variant).
What about using the Yellow Briq
On 19 Mar 02, at 16:02, Jacques Nilo wrote:
> > I came across David's make.lrp. Assuming that dependencies are in order
> > shouldn't I be able to just load this package into Bering and be able to use
> > it as a development station. Any insight on this would be appreciated.
> If make.lrp was co
Anyone see the (minature) write on Coyote in 2600? Interesting -
though odd that they wouldn't mention the Free versions (aside
from LRP).
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This is shaping up to be very nice; I've got a directory for busybox and uClibc
which contains:
* Makefile
* patches/ directory - Oxygen busybox has about 4-6
Then the makefile will download the appropriate version (using wget) and
compile it using uClibc (as Oxygen does) - and create a busybo
On 3 May 2001, at 10:44, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I wound up using whatever diffs [for ash that]
> > Erik [Andersen] had.
> Fair enough. If you could send me the diff that converts the makefile to
> gnu-make style I'd be thankful.
Everything should be in the Oxygen
On 2 May 2001, at 15:18, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> I have to agree with that to a great extent. But many programs use a
> "configure" script to configure the source tree to be built with certain
> options. I really prefer to have a script in the diff that calls this
> configure script to doing t
On 2 May 2001, at 13:23, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> If I understand correctly how David does this it's not necessarily
> obvious to someone other than David how a program is configured, and how
> it is built, what files to use in the .lrp package, and what lrp
> specific configs need to be added
On 30 Apr 2001, at 22:17, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Ironic that Matthew (the fellow who did Materhorn) was the
> > bridgeutils maintainer, and has now left it stagnate until someone
> > else picked it up.
> AFAIK the 2.4 kernel needs other bridge utils than Matthew'
On 1 May 2001, at 15:19, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a default way of building packages,
> like Debian? With Debian you can cd into the upacked/patched source
> directory and do a dpkg-buildpackage -b and voila! a binary package
> appears after a while. So we cou
On 30 Apr 2001, at 19:32, KP Kirchdörfer wrote:
> I've also an lrp package for dinosaurs available - rexx.lrp based on Ian
> Colliers REXX/imc.
I've seen REXX, but never got into coding it. I've looked at it a
time or two; may even have some DOS versions. If you like REXX, you
might like my co
On 30 Apr 2001, at 5:29, Dale Long wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Ooph! I don't have to. Is there a infant blue ox in the back yard
> > > as well?
> >
> > No blue oxes :-) but his older brother was 10 lbs. 2 oz. at birth :-)
>
> How long was the labour for both of
On 30 Apr 2001, at 5:04, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> At 10:37 PM 4/29/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Andrew James was born 22 April 2001 at 7:25 am, and was 9 lbs. 4 oz.
> >(ask your wives if that's big :-)
>
> Ooph! I don't have to. Is there a infant blue ox in the back yard
> as well?
No
There is a new baby in the house so I'm not going to be doing a
lot in the next week or so...
Andrew James was born 22 April 2001 at 7:25 am, and was 9 lbs. 4 oz.
(ask your wives if that's big :-)
Current outstanding development concerns:
* Both Oxygen versions (glibc 2.0.7 and 2.1.3) hav
On 30 Apr 2001, at 0:41, Mike Noyes wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-04-29 16:16 -0500
> >On 27 Apr 2001, at 17:25, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > He recommends 18M for
> > > Oxygen though, and I don't know if this fixes the performance
> > > slowdown.
> >
> >Oxygen can run in 16M; I've done it many ti
On 30 Apr 2001, at 2:08, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > On 22 Apr 2001, at 14:34, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> >> 22-4TODO: update all binaries to the _latest_ versions available? Is
> >> this a good idea? That will probably use some additional diskspace
> > Yes, definit
On 24 Apr 2001, at 8:30, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> I wonder why some people replace some POSIXness links with their busybox
> counterparts. On average the POSIXness version is smaller, so why
> replace it when it works? I bet that they don't care to remove the
> relevant code from POSIXness so t
On 27 Apr 2001, at 16:32, Jack Coates wrote:
> the annoying thing is that I don't see where it's getting called from --
> it's not in crontab, but I do know it's getting called because the ping
> check goes off about hourly.
Multicron is indeed "in" crontab, and is called as part of "run-
parts"
On 26 Apr 2001, at 19:34, Scott C. Best wrote:
> Forgive the off-topic moment of levity but...Oooo.
>
> http://www.jp.playstation.com/linux/image/main.jpg
>
> I can see it now...a Missle Command like interface to
> zap incoming packets of questionable origin...
> :
On 22 Apr 2001, at 14:34, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> replace gunzip with zcat
My understanding is that zcat is:
#!/bin/sh
gunzip -c $1
> 22-4add e3 (the pre 1.5 from oxygen) as the default editor
e3 is going to 1.5 very soon. Remember to change options in e3.asm...
> 22-4TODO: update
On 23 Apr 2001, at 19:47, Ewald Wasscher wrote:
> KP Kirchdörfer wrote:
> >> 21-4updated busybox to version 0.51
> > I'm running eigerstein with busybox 0.51 (and replaced most of the POSIXness
> > links and other progs with busybox and tinylogin), but as long as we see the
> > seg fault in
On 27 Apr 2001, at 17:25, Mike Noyes wrote:
> A Nessus scan can add enough log entries in less than five minutes to
> exceed free ramdisk space. This is on a box with 16M of memory.
>
> If I remember correctly, David solved this problem in Oxygen by creating a
> separate partition for /var/log
On 23 Apr 2001, at 19:37, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Ewald Wasscher, 2001-04-23 20:22 +0200
> >Mike Noyes wrote:
> >>Interesting. The German text is present on the SF home page again. At
> >>least I think it's German.
> >
> >No, it's Dutch! (which is very similar to German)
Then there is Pennsylvania
On 25 Apr 2001, at 21:02, KP Kirchdörfer wrote:
> Is the only choice between Scylla (vi-mode) and Charybdis (wasting disk
> space)?
e3ws, e3vi, e3ne, e3em, et al, are just links to e3; in Oxygen you
need to be careful as the actual binary is e3.bin, with a shell
wrapper and all the links point t
On 21 Feb 2001, at 1:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 05:05:52PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled:
> > Having said that, one of the things on my list of "ToDos" is to
> > change apkg to generate *.md5 for every file in the package for
> > checking purposes. This would m
Well, that'll teach me to open my mouth :-)
I've gotten preliminary *.md5 file checksumming put into Oxygen's
package handling system. The files are included in the packages in
the path of: /var/lib/lrpkg/.md5 and are created during the
package creation process automatically.
These packa
On 20 Feb 2001, at 22:38, Mark Seiden wrote:
> i'm about to switch to oxygen, which i've built on 2.2.18 (i
> hope...) for our beta test.
Thanks for using Oxygen!
> when (not if) you run out of room on a single floppy, which
> contains "trustworthy" software, how to download additional .lrps
>
On 20 Feb 2001, at 12:53, Sergey Kozhedub wrote:
> The compromise is to use a separate storage device/partition for
> log files when needed.
This is what Oxygen does by default - /var/log is a separate volume
of a user-definable size (I think the default was 2M).
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On 20 Feb 2001, at 17:03, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Secure Logging Over a Network
> http://interactive.linuxjournal.com/Magazines/LJ74/3913.html
You have to be authenticated to go here.
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I've taken to using the "Red Hat 5.x Compatible" libraries and
compilation. Usually, it works, but it is definitely not as easy as
using Red Hat 5 (or Debian Slink) out of the box.
In particular, things have problems when "interacting" with
/usr/include. All of the glibc includes are in
/usr
On 19 Feb 2001, at 18:39, Mike Noyes wrote:
> I stand corrected. You want that content linked from our home
> page. Correct?
Ray Olszewski said:
> Trying to connect to the URL you list above results in --
>
> "Not Found
>
> "The requested URL /pub/oxygen/ was not found on this
On 19 Feb 2001, at 17:02, Jack Coates wrote:
> that could be very handy for service images, but router/fw images
> are not likely to have a need (except for VPN which AFAIK doesn't
> use kerneli.org stuff).
Possibly true. However, crypto does enhance security. My main
purpose is to expand fl
On 19 Feb 2001, at 16:30, Mike Noyes wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-02-19 10:11 -0600
> It's already on our site:
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/cstein/
That's not our site; that's Charles. "Ours" is at
http://leaf.sourceforge.net ...
> I still haven't received your response to my earlier s
On 19 Feb 2001, at 15:58, Mike Sensney wrote:
> At 07:03 AM 02/19/2001 -0800, Jack Coates wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Is the crypto really available to release in the U.S.? Or is it
> > > still a dangerous thing? I asked on a mailing list a while back and
> >
On 17 Feb 2001, at 18:33, Jack Coates wrote:
> The tree is 2.2.18 based and the kernel is compiling to 413002 bytes.
Not bad! ...
> Patches are:
> linux_brfw_2.2.17.diff
Do you have the bridgex or whatever it was compiled to an *.lrp?
> linux-2.2.17-ow1.diff
This is now at linux-2.2.18-ow4 .
On 17 Feb 2001, at 6:49, Jack Coates wrote:
> I'd be inclined to stick to your existing system -- it seems sick
> and wrong to put device files in /tmp and I don't understand what
> they'd be doing there instead of /dev. There may well be a good
> reason (permissions? why not chmod the /dev entry
I'm reconsidering the mount restriction I have for /tmp, which
amounts to the fact that /tmp is mounted with the nodev option -
preventing device files from being created.
The reason I'm reconsidering is because it would seem that pdnsd also
creates device files there. If I were to do this, I
Example: Loading packages not from /dev/fd0, but from a directory on
the floppy. I was thinking of this syntax:
PKGPATH=/dev/fd0(pkgs):msdos
or
PKGPATH=/dev/hdc(pkgs/net):iso9660
and so on.
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On 16 Feb 2001, at 14:37, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> Note the 'automount' part of linuxrc will find the CD-ROM if
> there's no floppy in the drive, and use that as boot by default.
Oh? How does that go? I don't remember seeing it in LRP 2.9.7, and
anyway, if it was, I'm sure I removed it.
I've been getting an Oxygen-based booting CDROM ready, but have hit a
snag, and I don't know how to tackle it.
When the CD boots, it uses a disk image - I'm using a 2.88M floppy
image. syslinux comes up, and linux and root.lrp are loaded and run
fine.
The problem is once /linuxrc takes over,
On 15 Feb 2001, at 4:07, Kenneth Hadley wrote:
> I'm not sure how many on this list are aware how I was able to get PPPoE to
> run correctly under Eigerstein and why I would like to come up with a
> cleaner solution
> Basically the main problem under PPPoE was getting the interface to come u
On 15 Feb 2001, at 9:09, George Metz wrote:
> What a week and a half.
I'll say!
> So if you're still with me to this point, the reason I was away
> was that I was down for a week and a half due to a misconfigured
> syslinux.cfg file and a NIC that doesn't like to work right unless
> it's runnin
On 15 Feb 2001, at 3:45, Kenneth Hadley wrote:
> I finally got around to testing syslinux v1.52 today and it
> appears mister Anvin (syslinux's creator) has fixed the bugs that
> where causing mayhem for LRP Kernels Can anyone else confirm the
> fact that the new syslinux v.1.52 works for the
I'm compiling a raft of Linux kernels based on 2.2.18 for release;
one of these was to include QoS support. I started delving into the
options, and experienced a white-out from the blizzard of options
available :-)
Can someone enlighten me as to the best options to use for QoS and
why an
Has anyone ever done this? It seems like this would be a good way to
include IDE into the kernel in an embedded application, so as to
provide the utmost security. Hardware solutions appear to be non-
existant, and software solutions either allow write access, or
disallow access altogether.
I
On 13 Feb 2001, at 4:12, Jack Coates wrote:
> Interesting... I like the SysV system for /etc/init.d/service
> start|stop|restart|status though. My only experience with the BSD
> style is Slackware 2.0 though, so my apologies and please let me
> know if a similar capability is there.
The standar
On 12 Feb 2001, at 18:41, Jack Coates wrote:
> Just want to solicit some feedback on my dedicated server
> appliance.
> Everything is built into a single root.lrp with centralized
> configuration (i.e. linuxrc does everything necessary to initialize
> hardware and configure the system, then an
On 9 Feb 2001, at 14:39, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Thanks! I just verified that this works. I should have tried the archive
> switch before.
Don't you need the -R switch to recurse?
> $ cd /home/groups/leaf/htdocs
> $ mv yourname ..
> $ cp -a ../yourname .
> $ rm -rf ../yourname
> $ cd /home/groups/
On 6 Feb 2001, at 6:00, Steven Peck wrote:
> I know Jeff is in Davis, [California..]
> Mike's in the [San Francisco, California...] area.
>
> Charles is out in the midwest [...]
Western Kansas, I thought. Kansas City?
> and Rick out on the East coast?
Where?
> Oh, I'm in Sacramento, CA
Ra
On 6 Feb 2001, at 1:34, Mike Noyes wrote:
> At 03:49 PM 2/5/01 -0800, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >love to get together, but I'll need a little more notice than that
> >conference which begins tomorrow :-)
>
> Jack,
> I was thinking of the "Internet Appliance Workshop" (Feb. 20-21)
On 3 Feb 2001, at 18:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 04:22:02PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled:
> > I would suggest the following ideas as part of
> > any Open Source product:
> >
> > * What is your target audience? (a/k/a targeted
> > demographic)
>
> Not only tha
On 2 Feb 2001, at 21:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 03:23:42PM -0800, Scott C. Best scribbled:
> > Okay, sure, some of the ICSA guidelines are good ones...though
> > I can't imagine using anything that didn't meet them at the
> > very least.
>
> How about this:
> "Meets
On 18 Jan 2001, at 19:05, Scott C. Best wrote:
> Heya. It'd be worthwhile, I think, for one of our more board-minded
> LEAF'rs to suggest just such an SBC which we could use as a
> 'development target'. Not that we won't be putting it into desktop
> x86's as well, of course, but I was told by a V
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