New URL for Alberta mirror

2002-01-18 Thread Myles Green
http://mylesg.homelinux.net/ The old site will remain for a short while, probably until the end of January. Thanks, -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://mylesg.homelinux.net/ -- USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean "idiot".

RE: Linux-users digest, Vol 1 #305 - 19 msgs

2002-01-18 Thread Lavinius Romio Petru
"Mayday", Called Some Experts Mad Consultants Slurping Ethanol Madly Causing Slashdot Effect Mail Consumed Somewhere in Exchange Mainframe Computers Seemed Extinct Maintenance Contracts Seem Expensive Maintenance Costs Significantly Extra Making Companies Surrender Everyday Making Computers Slow E

Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Ken Moffat
Ok, that's clear, but what about root partitions. Can they be converted from another distro? Or is that necessary? If I log in to redhat on hda6 and convert a few from there, then log in to libranet or something on say hda9 can I convert the redhat partition? Or am I just making this too difficul

Re: Attn: Doug Hunley re forum software.

2002-01-18 Thread Myles Green
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:55:00 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas wern't you looking for something like this?? > > AnyBoard Forum > Rated: 3 Penguins - Category: TUCOWS Linux > Internet > Web Based > Applications > Version: 8.3 > License: Freeware > AnyBoard is a fully fea

Re: Microsoft Support

2002-01-18 Thread Myles Green
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:37:48 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How about: > > Mentally Crippled Self Evangelists - sort of what windows zealots > are! > > Keith B. > > "Condon Thomas A KPWA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > I have told them that MCSE stands for Must Consult with >

Attn: Doug Hunley re forum software.

2002-01-18 Thread Keith Antoine
Douglas wern't you looking for something like this?? AnyBoard Forum Rated: 3 Penguins - Category: TUCOWS Linux > Internet > Web Based Applications Version: 8.3 License: Freeware AnyBoard is a fully featured web community and collaboration tool Try it: http://lyris.tucows.com/cgi-bin/nph-t.pl?U

Re: (no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 18 January 2002 22:16 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: > Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit: > > tsting > > wrkng > > K Say wht? -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI

Re: mars_nwe

2002-01-18 Thread Ian
Kurt Wall wrote: > > Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Net Llama managed to emit: > > --- Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Is the the project dead? > > > > oook? > > "Is the [mars_nwe] project dead?" > > Don't know, but the technology is moribund. Kurt, Please refrain using wor

Re: Microsoft Support

2002-01-18 Thread Ian
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled on about: Not bad, I kinda watched this thread with amusement, in case nobody was keeping track here are the entries in no particular order, although possibly chronological. Must Consult with Someone Else, Mouse Certified System Engineer

Re: really stupid question about HTML

2002-01-18 Thread Ian
Ian wrote: > > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > > > how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news > > server? > > I know HREF="news:news.somewhere.net"; will pull up the configured newsreader > > and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to > > auto

Re: really stupid question about HTML

2002-01-18 Thread Ian
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news > server? > I know HREF="news:news.somewhere.net"; will pull up the configured newsreader > and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to > automagically load a specific n

Re: RE: Microsoft Support

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled on about: > How about: > > Mentally Crippled Self Evangelists - sort of what windows zealots are! My Capabilities Seriously Exaggerated -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf panic("Unable to find

Re: (no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Kurt Wall babbled on about: > Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit: > > tsting > > wrkng thanks! see you in the morn -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf printk("HPFS: G... Kernel memory corr

RE: RE: Microsoft Support

2002-01-18 Thread kbb0927
How about: Mentally Crippled Self Evangelists - sort of what windows zealots are! Keith B. "Condon Thomas A KPWA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > I have told them that MCSE stands for Must Consult with >> Someone Else, >> > >> > Mouse Certified System Engineer >> >> Mandrake Consultan

really stupid question about HTML

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley
how would one construct an HREF to a specific newsgroup on a specific news server? I know HREF="news:news.somewhere.net"; will pull up the configured newsreader and attach to news.somewhere.net, but how do I get the newsreader to automagically load a specific newsgroup on news.somewhere.net? th

Re: (no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Sys Admin managed to emit: > tsting wrkng K -- You will engage in a profitable business activity. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: mars_nwe

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Net Llama managed to emit: > --- Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Is the the project dead? > > oook? "Is the [mars_nwe] project dead?" Don't know, but the technology is moribund. Kurt -- Lady Luck brings added income today. Lady friend takes it a

Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Ken Moffat babbled on about: > I have several ext2 partitions, and several questions. > Can I make these ext2's into ext3's using tune2fs? using tune2fs is the only way to convert existing partitions. simply unmount the partition, 'tune2fs -j /dev/xxx' and then edit /etc/fstab to say ext3 instead

Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley
dep babbled on about: > needs to set up fstab such that / is ext3, but additional partitions > may be set to "auto." (in suse, for reasons not yet translated from the reason this works is because the 'mount' on SuSE is too old to be able to autodetect ext3. so settng it to auto means that 'mount

Re: (no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Jay Nugent babbled on about: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Sys Admin wrote: > > tsting > >It's not working... Some vowels are being dropped :-( good one ;) -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf If NT is your answer, you don'

Re: (no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Jay Nugent
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Sys Admin wrote: > tsting It's not working... Some vowels are being dropped :-( "Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin (1759) +

(no subject)

2002-01-18 Thread Sys Admin
tsting ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

RE: mars_nwe

2002-01-18 Thread GREWELL, AARON
I'm not sure, but since it only supports NW3.x (bindery) filesharing it's not much in demand anymore. Especially since everything since Windows for Warehouses supports MS Networking (and thus Samba) out of the box. -Original Message- From: Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, J

Re: mars_nwe

2002-01-18 Thread Net Llama
--- Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is the the project dead? oook? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com

Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-18 Thread Myles Green
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:05:36 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:19:33 -0500 > Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > > [snip] > > > > Not related to your main questions, but you are aware that a > > Ctl-Alt-ESC in X will give y

Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-18 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:19:33 -0500 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: [snip] > > Not related to your main questions, but you are aware that a > Ctl-Alt-ESC in X will give you a skull-and-crossbones for a cursor? > After getting that, just click in any window and tha

mars_nwe

2002-01-18 Thread Chang
Is the the project dead? -- The pivotal point is the "second chance", judged by another set of force and farce. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf and news://news.hkpcug.org ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mail

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Dave Anselmi
DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: > -- 14 January 2002 Congress May Take New Look At Software Protection > from Product Liability For Security Flaws A friend was dealing with Code Red recover at work (why, I don't know, but he's not a Linux user so maybe he couldn't help it ;-) It oc

Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-18 Thread Lee
Much thanks. Didn't know that, but iy sure will come in handy. Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Friday 18 January 2002 17:13 pm, Lee wrote: > > Original Message > > Subject: Screem > > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:11:12 -0500 > > From: Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-18 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 18 January 2002 17:13 pm, Lee wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Screem > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:11:12 -0500 > From: Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Installed Mandrake 8.0 a while back and still investigating all the > goodies that install with

[Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-18 Thread Lee
Original Message Subject: Screem Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:11:12 -0500 From: Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Installed Mandrake 8.0 a while back and still investigating all the goodies that install with it in full install. One of these is a beastie, under interne

Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread Net Llama
--- Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! > > > OK. I admit it. I'm confused... > If these "protected audio" CDs are playable in an ordinary CD player, > how, exactly, are they copy protected? Can't I just plug

SOLVED [Re: Xscreensaver-4.0]

2002-01-18 Thread Net Llama
*sigh* gtk-devel wasn't installed for some odd reason. This completely baffles me how that could be considering that i've built stuff in the recent past that needed the gtk headers & libs. At any rate, Xscreensaver-4.00 is now happily running on 2 of my boxes. Thanks to all for their advice & i

Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread Tim Wunder
Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! OK. I admit it. I'm confused... If these "protected audio" CDs are playable in an ordinary CD player, how, exactly, are they copy protected? Can't I just plug the output of my CD player into the input of my soundca

Re: network/ limited number of ips

2002-01-18 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:32:02 -0600 "Schmeits, Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: [snip] > > Why bootp? you assign a specific IP to a specific MAC. Tradeoff between a static IP and a completely dynamic one. You'll use dhcpd to do this, it just takes a little more setup. Cia

RE: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread GREWELL, AARON
Sure, but that's lossy. The repeated digital-analog conversions distort the sound. If you then convert your .wav to .mp3 you'll probably have definite audible defects, and nobody wants that. That's why most tracks are ripped directly from CDA format into mp3. And that's what copy protection is

Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:01:55 -0500 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! > > > OK. I admit it. I'm confused... > If these "protected audio" CDs are playable in an ordinary CD player, > how,

Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread Net Llama
Indeed this is most excellent & interesting. I believe this also appeared on /. a few days ago. --- Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > Subject: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register:

Re: Weird Shutdown/halt in SuSE 7.3

2002-01-18 Thread Susan Macchia
Lee, Can you expand a little on what you mean by "tell it to reboot and power down duing the bio bootup"? Who or what do I "tell" ? The bios? TIA --- Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What it means in SuSe 7.2 and Mandrake is that the box was shut down > before the program had finis

Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: > Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! "mother of all sue-fests" indeed! Looks like I'll be spending more money on Philips products in the future. :-P Kurt -- Your lover will never wish to leave you.

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Joel Hammer
The problem with holding software writers liable is this. They cannot anticipate all the uses or all the hardware the software will be aplied to. Neither, can they predict all the ineractions with every other piece of software aver written. Therefore, software would come with incredible restricti

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Ian
Joel Hammer wrote: > > This must be the dumbest idea in a long time. > This is like holding a builder liable because someone broke into his > building by digging under the foundation or smashing a window. > DUMB. I think what is needed here is to prevent software companies from including clause

Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-18 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:13:05 -0800 From: "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FSL Disc

RE: network/ limited number of ips

2002-01-18 Thread Schmeits, Roger
>I prevent this by using iptables and only accepting known MAC addresses. >However, this will _not_ prevent someone from reconfiguring their MAC >address (i.e., doing a MAC address takeover) and breaking into your net, >but it does make it a little more difficult. Combine that with WEP and >you

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:30:30 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:54:49 +0100 | Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: | | [snip] | | > | > I would be concerned about how they defined responsible. As a programmer | > I guess I wo

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Joel Hammer
This must be the dumbest idea in a long time. This is like holding a builder liable because someone broke into his building by digging under the foundation or smashing a window. DUMB. You would think they would be thinking of making hacking a more serious crime than it currently is. But, there are

RE: network/ limited number of ips

2002-01-18 Thread Schmeits, Roger
-Original Message- From: David A. Bandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: network/ limited number of ips On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:37:10 -0600 "Schmeits, Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: [snip] > >

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread John Hiemenz
On Friday 18 January 2002 09:16 am, Rick Sivernell wrote : > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:54:49 +0100 > > > for. While some foreign developers are very good, many are not. Those that > are not use their language as a hinderence in convering in US to avoid or > frustrate those who manage or use the soft

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:54:49 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: [snip] > > I would be concerned about how they defined responsible. As a programmer > I guess I would need some form of malpractice insurance to protect > against law suits. Can damages be for mo

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Rick Sivernell
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:54:49 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:31:07 -0500 > Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: > | > > | > -- 14 January 2002 Congress May Take New Look At Software Protection > | > from Pr

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:31:07 -0500 Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: | > | > -- 14 January 2002 Congress May Take New Look At Software Protection | > from Product Liability For Security Flaws | > | > Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.) who co-chairs the Congres

Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 18, dep managed to emit: > On Friday 18 January 2002 05:32, Kurt Wall wrote: > > | > Can I change them using fstab settings? > | > | No. > > well, um, yes and no. going back to ext2 requires editing /etc/fstab, > does it not? and on some systems (i'm thinking su

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Net Llama
--- DOUGLAS HUNLEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- 14 January 2002 Congress May Take New Look At Software Protection > from Product Liability For Security Flaws > > Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.) who co-chairs the Congressional Internet > Caucus > said . "The producers of sof

Re: network/ limited number of ips

2002-01-18 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:37:10 -0600 "Schmeits, Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: [snip] > > >the internet using a single public ip address and an access list of > >internal ip's that you assign. If it's an ip address not allowed to be > >masqueraded, then nobody can "steal ser

Re: Xscreensaver-4.0

2002-01-18 Thread David A. Bandel
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:34:09 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: [snip] > > Ugh. I've had [gtk|glib]-devel-1.2.10 installed for months, yet i don't > have glib.h installed. I've also got gnome-devel* installed. This > looks to be leading down a dependency path

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Glenn Williams
Right, you. But who will be able to afford it? Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 - since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988 - Original Message - From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: R

RE: network/ limited number of ips

2002-01-18 Thread Schmeits, Roger
>I don't know how much about wireless. Certainly it's easier, but probably more >expensive and maybe less secure (at least you'd have to think about those >things). We are still thinking about how to lay things out yet wireless vs. LAN. so far wireless is cheaper. for some oddball reason it is

RE: network/ limited number of ips

2002-01-18 Thread Schmeits, Roger
>Way, way too much overkill. You certainly don't need 6 access points, >especially at over a grand each for Cisco. Youre right 3 is more than enough. I was just throwing numbers out there ... it is early in the project you know. >them all a unique ESSID if you want precise control, patch each o

Re: Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread Ian
DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: > > -- 14 January 2002 Congress May Take New Look At Software Protection > from Product Liability For Security Flaws > > Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.) who co-chairs the Congressional Internet Caucus > said . "The producers of software should be responsibl

Congress to look at software liability?

2002-01-18 Thread DOUGLAS HUNLEY
-- 14 January 2002 Congress May Take New Look At Software Protection from Product Liability For Security Flaws Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.) who co-chairs the Congressional Internet Caucus said . "The producers of software should be responsible for any flaws that the software

Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread dep
On Friday 18 January 2002 05:32, Kurt Wall wrote: | > Can I change them using fstab settings? | | No. well, um, yes and no. going back to ext2 requires editing /etc/fstab, does it not? and on some systems (i'm thinking suse 7.3 here), in addition to getting the repaired mk_inittab script from

Re: Xscreensaver-4.0

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Net Llama managed to emit: > Is this on your Slackware box? Yes. I built and installed GTK+ and GDK from source. They live under /usr/local/mumble. As does Xscreensaver, I might add. > I've attempted it on a RH7.x box and i get errors like these during > 'm

Re: Partitioner

2002-01-18 Thread Keith Antoine
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:53,Douglas J Hunley scribed: > Keith Antoine babbled on about: > > I cannot see any way to reverse the trend from ext3 to 2. The other way > > is simple (tune2fs -j). Nothing I can see undoes this, not that I wanto > > normally > > change fstab from ext3 to ext2, unmount the

Re: ext2/ext3

2002-01-18 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 17, Ken Moffat managed to emit: > I'm confused. The "partitioner" thread left me scratching my head. > > I have several ext2 partitions, and several questions. > Can I make these ext2's into ext3's using tune2fs? Yes. > Can I go back and forth? Yes. > Can I