On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:29 AM, andre999 wrote:
> ok.
> My though was essentially that firmware is so close to hardware that its
> actual free/non-free status shouldn't apply - we should treat it like
> (almost) part of the hardware.
>
> As for the drivers, a little more distant from the hardware
On Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:24:44 am Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> Cool. Thanks to pterjan and boklm we now have a post on maintdb test
> platform on each upload. That will help setting things up further.
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 20:45, Maarten Vanraes
>
> wrote:
> > Op woensdag 23 maart 2011
JA Magallón a écrit :
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:41:18 -0400, andre999 wrote:
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
* core: stuff that
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:41:18 -0400, andre999 wrote:
> Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> >> On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> >>> Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
> >>> * core: stuff that is n
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
* core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
not belong here. Not even clos
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 22:09:50 schreef Dexter Morgan:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Maarten Vanraes
>
> wrote:
> > Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 20:55:47 schreef Ahmad Samir:
> >> On 24 March 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes
wrote:
> >> > Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'
Frank Griffin a écrit :
On 03/24/2011 04:37 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
I'm not sure it's broken.
Realtek is known to have somewhat crappy NICs that can tend to lock up
in a "middle state" if a driver probe comes too fast, and then they
dont react to any link or driver loading anymore.
One wa
Robert Xu a écrit :
On Mar 23, 2011, at 17:28, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Olivier Blin wrote:
Dexter Morgan writes:
I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a
repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I
thou
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Maarten Vanraes
wrote:
> Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 20:55:47 schreef Ahmad Samir:
>> On 24 March 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
>> > Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
>> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 wrote:
>> >> > Like
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 20:55:47 schreef Ahmad Samir:
> On 24 March 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 wrote:
> >> > Like I said before, KDE3.5 coexisted very well with KDE4 since 2009.1
Frank Griffin a écrit :
On 03/24/2011 12:41 PM, andre999 wrote:
Frank Griffin a écrit :
Is there an rpm or urpmq query
that will highlight conflicts between installed packages on a system ?
For example, if I installed dkms-virtualbox and then installed
dkms-vboxadditions with --force, is ther
On 03/24/2011 04:37 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
I'm not sure it's broken.
Realtek is known to have somewhat crappy NICs that can tend to lock up
in a "middle state" if a driver probe comes too fast, and then they
dont react to any link or driver loading anymore.
One way that might help is to
Frank Griffin skrev 24.3.2011 15:21:
On 03/24/2011 08:02 AM, Frank Griffin wrote:
I'll do that today. I've looked in older logs, and I find places
where the kernel puts out the "unable to load firmware" message, but
then gets link beat anyway.
Well, I've never been a believer in coincidence
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 20:08, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
>> Summary (from http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy):
>> * core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
>> not belong here. Not even closed-source stuff that w
Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
should
On 24 March 2011 21:36, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 wrote:
>> > Like I said before, KDE3.5 coexisted very well with KDE4 since 2009.1 on
>> > Mandriva and Trinity is even more so being developed wit
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 16:22:15 schreef Ahmad Samir:
> On 24 March 2011 11:56, Olivier Blin wrote:
> > nicolas vigier writes:
> >> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
> >>> As I reiterate, Trinity does not interfere with KDE4 in any way, if
> >>> you keep /opt/kde3
> >>
> >> Are you sure ?
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 14:10:39 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 wrote:
> > Like I said before, KDE3.5 coexisted very well with KDE4 since 2009.1 on
> > Mandriva and Trinity is even more so being developed with coexistence in
> > mind, so there shouldn't be any
Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 11:18:03 schreef Olivier Blin:
> Wolfgang Bornath writes:
> >>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
> >>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
> >>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get dis
Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
2011/3/24 Olivier Blin:
Thorsten van Lil writes:
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morganwrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samirwrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever cont
On 24.03.2011 19:35, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 17:45, Michael Scherer wrote:
>> But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or
>> not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso
>> ( http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-sl
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 24/03/11 15:12 did gyre and gimble:
> But that doesn't cover the case of booting from a 2009.1 partition which
> has worked with this NIC before. That partition would have the same
> kernel and /lib/firmware that worked the last time, no ?
Ahh yes, that's true.
Ahmad Samir a écrit :
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
and this question is i think interesti
Cool. Thanks to pterjan and boklm we now have a post on maintdb test
platform on each upload. That will help setting things up further.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 20:45, Maarten Vanraes
wrote:
> Op woensdag 23 maart 2011 20:32:42 schreef Michael Scherer:
>> ( nota : xml rpc interface could be a good
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 17:45, Michael Scherer wrote:
> But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or
> not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso
> ( http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/ ).
>
> When I started at Mandrake Linux, the
On 03/24/2011 12:41 PM, andre999 wrote:
Frank Griffin a écrit :
Is there an rpm or urpmq query
that will highlight conflicts between installed packages on a system ?
For example, if I installed dkms-virtualbox and then installed
dkms-vboxadditions with --force, is there a query which would repo
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 14:24 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
> On 24.03.2011 12:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
> >> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
> >>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morga
Frank Griffin a écrit :
On 03/23/2011 08:45 AM, Olivier Blin wrote:
Don't you have x11 packages for vbox guest installed?
That was it, thanks.
Apparently virtualbox-additions and the x11 package were forced on
during my post-installation processing. Is there an rpm or urpmq query
that will
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:18:03 +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
> Wolfgang Bornath writes:
>
> >>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
> >>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
> >>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get
On 24.03.2011 14:41, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2011/3/24 Anssi Hannula :
>> On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>>> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
>>> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
>>> care about the issue does
On 24 March 2011 11:56, Olivier Blin wrote:
> nicolas vigier writes:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As I reiterate, Trinity does not interfere with KDE4 in any way, if
>>> you keep /opt/kde3
>>
>> Are you sure ?
>>
>> For libs installed in /opt/kde3/lib, rpm find-provides w
On 03/24/2011 10:35 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
Could perhaps the firmware needed have been [re]moved with some other
updates?...
Perhaps the nic is not dead yet! :p
It sure looked like the files were in /lib/firmware/rtl, although I
suppose they could have moved. And booting with the prior ker
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 24/03/11 13:21 did gyre and gimble:
> On 03/24/2011 08:02 AM, Frank Griffin wrote:
>>
>> I'll do that today. I've looked in older logs, and I find places
>> where the kernel puts out the "unable to load firmware" message, but
>> then gets link beat anyway.
>>
>
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 14:55, Frank Griffin wrote:
> On 03/24/2011 09:45 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
>>
>> http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy#acceptable_licenses
>>
>> "The tainted section accepts software under a license that is might be
>> free or open source and which cannot b
Quote: rdalverny wrote on Thu, 24 March 2011 14:45
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 14:39, Frank Griffin
> wrote:
> > On 03/24/2011 05:14 AM, Tux99 wrote:
> >>
> >> Can you (or anyone) tell us when the build system will be ready to
> deal
> >> with s
On 03/24/2011 09:45 AM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy#acceptable_licenses
"The tainted section accepts software under a license that is might be
free or open source and which cannot be redistributed publicly in
certain areas in the world, or due to
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 14:39, Frank Griffin wrote:
> On 03/24/2011 05:14 AM, Tux99 wrote:
>>
>> Can you (or anyone) tell us when the build system will be ready to deal
>> with source packages that generate both core and tainted binary packages?
>>
>> Is it something that's still far off (months)
On 03/24/2011 05:14 AM, Tux99 wrote:
Can you (or anyone) tell us when the build system will be ready to deal
with source packages that generate both core and tainted binary packages?
Is it something that's still far off (months) or will this be possible
soon?
On a related issue, the wiki still
On 24 March 2011 11:38, Olivier Blin wrote:
>> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
>> install them?
>> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about
>> proprietary issues, they just need them for using there wireless card
>> or graphic card. Those
On 03/24/2011 08:02 AM, Frank Griffin wrote:
I'll do that today. I've looked in older logs, and I find places
where the kernel puts out the "unable to load firmware" message, but
then gets link beat anyway.
Well, I've never been a believer in coincidence, but I've booted the old
kernel (2
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:13, Tux99 wrote:
> Like I said before, KDE3.5 coexisted very well with KDE4 since 2009.1 on
> Mandriva and Trinity is even more so being developed with coexistence in
> mind, so there shouldn't be any unsolvable issues.
Maybe it did coexist well at a significant cost on
2011/3/24 Anssi Hannula :
> On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
>> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
>> care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
>> should ra
On 24.03.2011 12:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
> care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
> should rather stress the point.
Note tha
On 24.03.2011 12:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
> Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
>> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
>>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
> wr
On 03/24/2011 07:55 AM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
No r8169 fixes in upstream 2.6.38.1
I'll check HEAD commits...
Should be easy to check if kernel is at fault
Boot the old kernel...
Is the issue gone ?
I'll do that today. I've looked in older logs, and I find places where
the kernel puts o
Colin Guthrie skrev 24.3.2011 13:18:
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 23/03/11 21:38 did gyre and gimble:
I updated cauldron this morning, and later rebooted my desktop. My
r8169 on eth0 is suddenly having problems, maybe due to the new kernel.
There should be a new kernel later today (or
Am 24.03.2011 11:53, schrieb Michael Scherer:
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
install them?
I think the majority of the users don't care that much about proprietary
issues, they just need them
On Thursday, 24 March 2011 13:03:08 Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2011/3/24 Romain d'Alverny :
> > Well, that's precisely debatable (and why I'll try to setup a relevant
> > survey through marcom). The ISO can be seen as a static commodity
> > storage; that it holds core and nonfree makes no such diffe
On Thursday, 24 March 2011 12:48:22 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath
wrote:
> > But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
> > in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
> > care about the issue does no
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 23/03/11 21:38 did gyre and gimble:
> I updated cauldron this morning, and later rebooted my desktop. My
> r8169 on eth0 is suddenly having problems, maybe due to the new kernel.
There should be a new kernel later today (or maybe tomorrow). Fingers
crossed tha
On Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:57:17 Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir :
> > On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
wrote:
> >>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
> >>
> >> No, but the question is
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:03, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> In the public appearance this would make a difference. As soon as
> there is non-free contents on the ISO it is a non-free ISO. That we
> provide non-free on the mirrors doesn't make Mageia a non-free distro,
> only what we offer as "product
2011/3/24 Romain d'Alverny :
>
> Well, that's precisely debatable (and why I'll try to setup a relevant
> survey through marcom). The ISO can be seen as a static commodity
> storage; that it holds core and nonfree makes no such difference as
> that those two media are available from the network wit
2011/3/24 Oliver Burger :
> Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 11:43:57 schrieb Rémi Verschelde:
>> 2011/3/24 Wolfgang Bornath :
>> > We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
>> > not continue this in our "product line"? We use a different repo for
>> > non-free, we also shoul
On 03/24/2011 04:57 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a non-free
"driver cd ISO" which they could include in the installation process.
Excellent suggestion, and it dovetails with another problem: being able
to do a network install over a wi
Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
> > 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
> >> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
> >>> wrote:
>
> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva
Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 11:43:57 schrieb Rémi Verschelde:
> 2011/3/24 Wolfgang Bornath :
> > We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
> > not continue this in our "product line"? We use a different repo for
> > non-free, we also should use a different ISO for non-fr
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> But I don't think it would be a good idea to include non-free contents
> in the distribution ISOs at all. That this assumed majority does not
> care about the issue does not mean we should not care either. We
> should rather stress the point
Donald Stewart skrev 24.3.2011 11:39:
I've never installed with more than one cd, but from memory, the
installer asks for extra media, surely if your installing from the
free dvd and have to eject it to add a non-free cd then that would
cause problems, or have I misunderstood?
Nope,
Installer
2011/3/24 Wolfgang Bornath :
>
> We already made such a difference by using different repositories, we
> not continue this in our "product line"? We use a different repo for
> non-free, we also should use a different ISO for non-free.
>
That's what I was thinking about. Could it be possible to hav
2011/3/24 Olivier Blin :
> Thorsten van Lil writes:
>
>> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
>>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
> wrote:
>>
>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever co
2011/3/24 Thorsten van Lil :
>
> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
> install them?
> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about proprietary
> issues, they just need them for using there wireless card or graphic card.
> Those how do care can jus
Thorsten van Lil writes:
> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
>>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
wrote:
>
> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>>>
2011/3/24 Thorsten van Lil :
> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
>>
>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
>>>
>>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
wrote:
>
> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmw
Wolfgang Bornath writes:
>>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
>>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
>>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get discussed
>>> yet).
>>
>> They were also on the PowerPack images, an
Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free"
2011/3/24 Olivier Blin :
> Ahmad Samir writes:
>
>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
>>> wrote:
Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>>>
>>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non fre
nicolas vigier writes:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
>
>>
>> As I reiterate, Trinity does not interfere with KDE4 in any way, if
>> you keep /opt/kde3
>
> Are you sure ?
>
> For libs installed in /opt/kde3/lib, rpm find-provides will add the
> provides for the libs on the packages. Whe
Ahmad Samir writes:
> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>>
>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
>> and this question is
I opened https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523
--
wobo
On 24 March 2011 05:22, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2011/3/24 Thomas Backlund :
>> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 24.3.2011 10:57:
>>>
>>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has b
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote:
>
> As I reiterate, Trinity does not interfere with KDE4 in any way, if
> you keep /opt/kde3
Are you sure ?
For libs installed in /opt/kde3/lib, rpm find-provides will add the
provides for the libs on the packages. When an other package require
this library
2011/3/24 Thomas Backlund :
> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 24.3.2011 10:57:
>>
>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
>>>
>>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
>>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
>>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the mat
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 24.3.2011 10:57:
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir:
It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously the
firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has been
changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get discussed
yet).
Correct. It's the same
Quote: Balcaen John wrote on Thu, 10 March 2011 17:41
>
> Le Thursday 10 March 2011 12:19:52, Tux99 a écrit :
> > The same question also applies to mplayer, which I just noticed
> > also
> > doesn't include codecs like h.264 and aac.
> For the moment there's a work in progress regarding the BS so
2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir :
> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
>>
>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
>> and this question
Quote: Oliver Burger wrote on Thu, 24 March 2011 08:53
>
> Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 08:23:18 schrieb Tux99:
> > I think this thread is starting to derail from a simple technical
> > question
> > limted to a specific issue (reenabling qt-dev) to an ideological
> > argument
> > based greatly on
Am Donnerstag 24 März 2011, 08:23:18 schrieb Tux99:
> I think this thread is starting to derail from a simple technical question
> limted to a specific issue (reenabling qt-dev) to an ideological argument
> based greatly on fear and paranoia.
It is? I don't think so. Unless you think considerations
I think this thread is starting to derail from a simple technical question
limted to a specific issue (reenabling qt-dev) to an ideological argument
based greatly on fear and paranoia.
Adding TrinityDE to Mageia, like adding any bigger software, is a gradual
step by step process.
I don't think
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