RE: Auth Handlers

2001-12-11 Thread J. Zobel
On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 21:00, Stathy Touloumis wrote: > Actually, I DON'T want the browser to prompt for a username/pass. I saw the > examples in the eagle book and they all seem to use Authz, with Auth > handlers using the example you showed. > Perhaps I need to modify the headers so that the pro

Re: Apache crashing on mod_perl installation.

2001-12-11 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi there, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Titus Brown wrote: > Do you know how I can turn on debugging symbols so that gdb can give me > more info (about line number, etc.)? > > I've forced 'gcc' to always have the -g flag on, but that doesn't seem > to be enough for some reason... The Guide is your frie

Re: Comparison of different caching schemes

2001-12-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
> One important aspect missing from my tests is the actual concurrency testing. Oh, I guess I should have checked your code. I thought these were concurrent. That makes a huge difference. > 2. Lock some part of cache for a request > (Cache::Mmap buckets, MLDBM pages?) MLDBM::Sync locks the wh

Re: Comparison of different caching schemes

2001-12-11 Thread Rob Mueller (fastmail)
Just wanted to add an extra thought that I forgot to include in the previous post.   One important aspect missing from my tests is the actual concurrency testing. In most real world programs, multiple applications will be reading from/writing to the cache at the same time. Depending on the c

Re: Case of the Vanishing Symbol Tables

2001-12-11 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 04:15:49PM -0600, Stephen Clouse wrote: > With the PerlModule/%INC problem recently being rehashed, here's another one > involving PerlModule vs. use that will really bake your noodle. > > Attached is a full mod_perl trace, where I hacked into perl_require_module a > dum

Re: Case of the Vanishing Symbol Tables

2001-12-11 Thread Stephen Clouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 05:33:12PM -0800, David Pisoni wrote: > IMHO, this looks similar to (though more catastrophic than) the problem I > have been dealing with for some time now. > > >From the archive : >

Re: Case of the Vanishing Symbol Tables

2001-12-11 Thread Stephen Clouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:08:07PM -0500, Perrin Harkins wrote: > Are you using PerlFreshRestart? Same behavior, on or off. > No need to get testy. That came out wrong, apparently. Sorry. > You should be able to replace a PerlModule call with use

Re: User customisable website application?

2001-12-11 Thread Stas Bekman
Chris Winters wrote: > * Russell Matbouli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011209 19:44]: > >>As the final year project for my degree, I'm implementing a >>user-customisable website application (aimed at multiuser websites) >>in mod_perl. Can anyone tell me if something like this already >>exists? My search

Can't call Apache::Request->new()

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
I'm getting the following error, $ perl -MApache::Request -e 'Apache::Request->new' Can't locate object method "new" via package "Apache::Request" (perhaps you forgot to load "Apache::Request"?) at -e line 1. $ ...both from the command line and under a PerlHandler Apache::Registry'd script. Of

Re: Re(2): Apache::SizeLimit Exit is Delayed

2001-12-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
> That was it. The child exited immediately when I hit the limit with > KeepAlive Off. Now the question is: Is there a way to force an exit even > with KeepAlive On? As Jay already pointed out, you usually don't want KeepAlive on with mod_perl. However, you could try changing the call $r->chi

Re: Re(2): Apache::SizeLimit Exit is Delayed

2001-12-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
> That was it. The child exited immediately when I hit the limit with > KeepAlive Off. Now the question is: Is there a way to force an exit even > with KeepAlive On? As Jay already pointed out, you usually don't want KeepAlive on with mod_perl. However, you could try changing the call $r->chi

Re: Comparison of different caching schemes

2001-12-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
> I sat down the other day and wrote a test script to try > out various caching implementations. Very interesting. Looks like Cache::Mmap deserves more attention (and maybe a Cache::Cache subclass). > Have I missed something obvious? Nothing much, but I'd like to see how these numbers vary wit

Re: Case of the Vanishing Symbol Tables

2001-12-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
> All is well until you reach the end, > where it starts reloading everything, and the namespace is > now completely gone. Are you using PerlFreshRestart? > I posted this once before and got blown off -- a pox > on to those who tell me to check @INC or what not. No need to get testy. If this i

Comparison of different caching schemes

2001-12-11 Thread Rob Mueller (fastmail)
Just thought people might be interested...   I sat down the other day and wrote a test script to try out various caching implementations. The script is pretty basic at the moment, I just wanted to get an idea of the performance of different methods.   The basic scenario is the common mod_per

Re: Re(2): Apache::SizeLimit Exit is Delayed

2001-12-11 Thread Jay Thorne
On December 11, 2001 04:25 pm, Mod_perl Mailing List wrote: > > Hi Perrin, > > That was it. The child exited immediately when I hit the limit with > KeepAlive Off. Now the question is: Is there a way to force an exit even > with KeepAlive On? > > Thanks! > > Bob For what its worth, I'd recomme

Re: Case of the Vanishing Symbol Tables

2001-12-11 Thread David Pisoni
IMHO, this looks similar to (though more catastrophic than) the problem I have been dealing with for some time now. >From the archive : There is a long thread about it. It is presently unresolved. (We're hoping for Divine intervention. W

Re(2): Apache::SizeLimit Exit is Delayed

2001-12-11 Thread Mod_perl Mailing List
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> I'm using Apache::SizeLimit (on both Solaris and Linux) and getting the >> error_log entry: >> >> [Tue Dec 11 15:01:19 2001] (2520) Apache::SizeLimit httpd process too >big, >> exiting at SIZE=44964 KB SHARE=10900 KB REQUESTS=389 LIFETIME=9505 >> seconds >> >> But t

Pushing Handlers from sections

2001-12-11 Thread Issac Goldstand
Can I _upsh_ handlers from within sections? If so, how? Issac -- Internet is a wonderful mechanism for making a fool of yourself in front of a very large audience. --Anonymous Moving the mouse won't get you into trouble... Clicking it might. --Anonymous PGP Key 0xE0FA561B - Fingerp

Re: Apache::SizeLimit Exit is Delayed

2001-12-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
> I'm using Apache::SizeLimit (on both Solaris and Linux) and getting the > error_log entry: > > [Tue Dec 11 15:01:19 2001] (2520) Apache::SizeLimit httpd process too big, > exiting at SIZE=44964 KB SHARE=10900 KB REQUESTS=389 LIFETIME=9505 > seconds > > But the child process often doesn't exit

Apache::SizeLimit Exit is Delayed

2001-12-11 Thread Mod_perl Mailing List
Hi, I'm using Apache::SizeLimit (on both Solaris and Linux) and getting the error_log entry: [Tue Dec 11 15:01:19 2001] (2520) Apache::SizeLimit httpd process too big, exiting at SIZE=44964 KB SHARE=10900 KB REQUESTS=389 LIFETIME=9505 seconds But the child process often doesn't exit right aw

Re: anyone know a trick with displaying 401 error messages for top level protected sites?

2001-12-11 Thread DJ \(David J Radunz\)
Works fantasticaly! thanks so much. DJ - Original Message - From: "Rob Bloodgood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DJ (David J Radunz)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "mod_perl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:09 AM Subject: RE: anyone know a trick with displaying 401 error me

Case of the Vanishing Symbol Tables

2001-12-11 Thread Stephen Clouse
With the PerlModule/%INC problem recently being rehashed, here's another one involving PerlModule vs. use that will really bake your noodle. Attached is a full mod_perl trace, where I hacked into perl_require_module a dump of one of my vanishing namespaces on each module load. So you can defi

RFC: CGI vs. Apache Namespace Question

2001-12-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I've got a small CPAN Namespace Question: Some time ago I wrote CGI::URI2param ( http://search.cpan.org/search?mode=module&query=URI2param ). Now, thanks to an idea by darren chamberlain, I wrote a small PerlInitHandler that does nothing more than parse some PerlSetVars and then call uri2pa

RE: Auth Handlers

2001-12-11 Thread Stathy Touloumis
Actually, I DON'T want the browser to prompt for a username/pass. I saw the examples in the eagle book and they all seem to use Authz, with Auth handlers using the example you showed. Perhaps I need to modify the headers so that the prompt does not occur? Thanks for the info, > -Original Me

RE: anyone know a trick with displaying 401 error messages for top level protected sites?

2001-12-11 Thread Rob Bloodgood
> for example if the protected url was http://www.site.com/ the user > would be redirected to http://www.site.com/error/401 for the error > message.. and because its protected wouldnt display the custom error > page instead displaying the following error "Additionally, a 401 > Authorization Requi

RE: Auth Handlers

2001-12-11 Thread Rob Bloodgood
> : ) No problem, I guess I am unsure if this is the proper way > to setup an > Access, Authen, Authz handler. When I use this configuration my > 'handler()' > method does not get called and I get an error in the logs: This is *not* the correct way to invoke it. > > > > > > AuthName "Log

Re: Q - Apache::Request->new(undef) works?

2001-12-11 Thread darren chamberlain
Jay Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 12/11/2001: > In my development I neglected to supply the Apache request > object when I called Apache::Request->new( $r ). Actually $r > was undef. It still works! I am just wondering if this is > expected behaviour and if it will

Re: [modperl site design challenge] please vote

2001-12-11 Thread Stas Bekman
This is just a reminder that we need your votes. So far we have about 130 votes. Please help us to choose. Stas Bekman wrote: > Thomas Klausner, Allan Juul and Carlos Ramirez have answered the > challenge and submitted their modperl site designs. Thank you folks! > > Now it's a time for you t

RE: Auth Handlers

2001-12-11 Thread Stathy Touloumis
: ) No problem, I guess I am unsure if this is the proper way to setup an Access, Authen, Authz handler. When I use this configuration my 'handler()' method does not get called and I get an error in the logs: [Mon Dec 10 13:13:03 2001] [crit] [client 192.168.0.1] configuration error: couldn't c

Re: Defeating mod_perl Persistence

2001-12-11 Thread ed phillips
Ged Haywood wrote: > > Hi there, > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Jonathan M. Hollin wrote: > > > When using Mail::Sender only the first email is sent on my mod_perl server. > > When I investigated, I realised that the socket to the SMTP server was > > staying open after the completion of that first em

Re: Defeating mod_perl Persistence

2001-12-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
should one not unlink() after the close? > > When using Mail::Sender only the first email is sent on my mod_perl > server. > > When I investigated, I realised that the socket to the SMTP server was > > staying open after the completion of that first email (presumably mod_perl > > is responsible f

Re: Q - Apache::Request->new(undef) works?

2001-12-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
"Jay Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In my development I neglected to supply the Apache request object when > I called Apache::Request->new( $r ). Actually $r was undef. It still > works! I am just wondering if this is expected behaviour and if it > will be supported going forward or was

Re: chroot .. jail2 || other .pm ?

2001-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Young
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > > hi, > Was digging around CPAN looking for a module that would > allow the following.. > > user is authenticated .. via web.. ok got that.. > If they are successful that are > chroot or jailed or caged in a specific > directory which becomes their root.. > eg .. >

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-11 Thread Stas Bekman
Andrew Green wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Weird, what Perl version are you using? Can you do: >> > >>perl -MFcntl -le1 >>or >>perl -le 'require Fcntl' >> > > Both seem to work (producing no output, but no errors either). The > *re

chroot .. jail2 || other .pm ?

2001-12-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi, Was digging around CPAN looking for a module that would allow the following.. user is authenticated .. via web.. ok got that.. If they are successful that are chroot or jailed or caged in a specific directory which becomes their root.. eg .. $HOME/public_html which is ln || lndir to /va

Re: Defeating mod_perl Persistence

2001-12-11 Thread Perrin Harkins
> When using Mail::Sender only the first email is sent on my mod_perl server. > When I investigated, I realised that the socket to the SMTP server was > staying open after the completion of that first email (presumably mod_perl > is responsible for this persistence). > > Is there any way to defeat

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-11 Thread Stas Bekman
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: >>>Wouldn't that affect mod_perl's advantage of sharing the modules? I >>>mean, would everything be in it's separate namespace and loaded only >>>once for every module as it is with use? >>> > > I don't know about you guys, but I don't feel that sharing the modules > is

Re: Apache::can_stack_handlers()

2001-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Young
Issac Goldstand wrote: > > What version of mod_perl starts supporting this? egads, that's old... looks like 0.95 http://www.bitmechanic.com/mail-archives/modperl/Mar1997/0145.html --Geoff

Apache::can_stack_handlers()

2001-12-11 Thread Issac Goldstand
What version of mod_perl starts supporting this? Issac -- Internet is a wonderful mechanism for making a fool of yourself in front of a very large audience. --Anonymous Moving the mouse won't get you into trouble... Clicking it might. --Anonymous PGP Key 0xE0FA561B - Fingerprint: 7E18

Re: Defeating mod_perl Persistence

2001-12-11 Thread Eric Cholet
--On mardi 11 décembre 2001 12:25 + "Jonathan M. Hollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > When using Mail::Sender only the first email is sent on my mod_perl > server. When I investigated, I realised that the socket to the SMTP > server was staying open after the completion of that

Re: [RFC] Apache::CacheContent - Caching PerlFixupHandler

2001-12-11 Thread Geoffrey Young
Paul Lindner wrote: > [snip] > > I suppose that one could put the whole uri->cachefile mapping into a > custom PerlTransHandler and leave Apache::CacheContent as-is.. yeah, I think that we're starting to talk about two different approaches now. the cool thing about the current logic is that no

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-11 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
>> Wouldn't that affect mod_perl's advantage of sharing the modules? I >> mean, would everything be in it's separate namespace and loaded only >> once for every module as it is with use? I don't know about you guys, but I don't feel that sharing the modules is that much of an advantage. If you wr

Re: Defeating mod_perl Persistence

2001-12-11 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi there, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Jonathan M. Hollin wrote: > When using Mail::Sender only the first email is sent on my mod_perl server. > When I investigated, I realised that the socket to the SMTP server was > staying open after the completion of that first email (presumably mod_perl > is respon

Defeating mod_perl Persistence

2001-12-11 Thread Jonathan M. Hollin
Hey Gang, When using Mail::Sender only the first email is sent on my mod_perl server. When I investigated, I realised that the socket to the SMTP server was staying open after the completion of that first email (presumably mod_perl is responsible for this persistence). Is there any way to defeat

Q - Apache::Request->new(undef) works?

2001-12-11 Thread Jay Lawrence
Howdy!   In my development I neglected to supply the Apache request object when I called Apache::Request->new( $r ). Actually $r was undef. It still works! I am just wondering if this is expected behaviour and if it will be supported going forward or was this just a fluke?Thanks, J

Re: [RFC] Apache::CacheContent - Caching PerlFixupHandler

2001-12-11 Thread DeWitt Clinton
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 02:31:36AM -0800, Paul Lindner wrote: > Right. A more elaborate Apache::CacheContent would have a filename > hash function, and a separate cache directory structure along the > lines of Cache::FileCache. Just curious -- any reason not to use Cache::Cache as the persistan

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-11 Thread Jorge Godoy
Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jorge Godoy wrote: > >> Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>I think the general advise is to always call require() and not use() >>>in startup.pl, unless you have a reason for calling certain modules' >>>import() method. >>> >> Wouldn't that aff

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-11 Thread Andrew Green
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Weird, what Perl version are you using? Can you do: > perl -MFcntl -le1 > or > perl -le 'require Fcntl' Both seem to work (producing no output, but no errors either). The *really* peculiar thing is that actual scripts

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-11 Thread Stas Bekman
Andrew Green wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Try to call: >>require Fcntl; >>instead. >> > > Thanks for the tip. I'm afraid the above verbatim produces the following > error on restart: > > | Shutting down http:

(fwd) [ANNOUNCE] Module::Info 0.09

2001-12-11 Thread Stas Bekman
[This seems to be a very useful module for those who try to minimize the memory usage, by finding out irrelevant modules loaded without your consent :) Michael G Schwern said: Module::Use appears to use the "let's sniff through %INC" approach, which is clever and useful and sometimes more accu

Re: [RFC] Apache::CacheContent - Caching PerlFixupHandler

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Lindner
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:50:52AM -0800, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Paul Lindner wrote: > > > > BTW -- I think where the docs are cached should be configurable. I don't > > > like the idea of the document root writable by the web process. > > > > That's the price you pay fo

Re: Preloading Fcntl.pm

2001-12-11 Thread Andrew Green
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try to call: > require Fcntl; > instead. Thanks for the tip. I'm afraid the above verbatim produces the following error on restart: | Shutting down http:[ OK ] | Starting httpd

Re: [RFC] Apache::CacheContent - Caching PerlFixupHandler

2001-12-11 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Paul Lindner wrote: > > BTW -- I think where the docs are cached should be configurable. I don't > > like the idea of the document root writable by the web process. > > That's the price you pay for this functionality. Because we use > Apache's native file serving code we ne