Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-09 Thread Jameson Graef Rollins
On Sat, May 03 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: > First, are there people out there who do not use a collection of maildir > directories, with all mail in cur and new? o/ I completely abandoned the usage of separate mail "folders" since I started using notmuch. All my mail now

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-09 Thread Jameson Graef Rollins
On Sat, May 03 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: > First, are there people out there who do not use a collection of maildir > directories, with all mail in cur and new? o/ I completely abandoned the usage of separate mail "folders" since I started using notmuch. All my mail n

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-07 Thread Mark Walters
> The trick here is that it's easy to miss people who are happy with > current functionality. Adding functionality to address newly-identified > use cases makes a lot of sense. But removing functionality runs the risk > of only discovering that people were relying on it after the fact, > (Which se

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-07 Thread Mark Walters
> The trick here is that it's easy to miss people who are happy with > current functionality. Adding functionality to address newly-identified > use cases makes a lot of sense. But removing functionality runs the risk > of only discovering that people were relying on it after the fact, > (Which se

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-06 Thread Carl Worth
Mark Walters writes: > I would just like to second what Jani said. There was a lot of > discussion I do appreciate that. > and, at the time, the outcome covered all use cases that > anyone showed any sign of wanting. The trick here is that it's easy to miss people who are happy with current fun

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Walters
On Mon, 05 May 2014, Jani Nikula wrote: > Hi Carl - > > On Tue, 06 May 2014, Carl Worth wrote: >> dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu writes: >>> However, currently it seems strange that there are *two* different >>> search terms (folder and path), and that neither one lets you search for

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-06 Thread Jani Nikula
Hi Carl - On Tue, 06 May 2014, Carl Worth wrote: > dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu writes: >> However, currently it seems strange that there are *two* different >> search terms (folder and path), and that neither one lets you search for >> a portion of your folder name. > > For what it

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-06 Thread Mark Walters
On Mon, 05 May 2014, Jani Nikula wrote: > Hi Carl - > > On Tue, 06 May 2014, Carl Worth wrote: >> dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu writes: >>> However, currently it seems strange that there are *two* different >>> search terms (folder and path), and that neither one lets you search for >>>

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-05 Thread Carl Worth
Jani Nikula writes: > The discussions about this were lengthy and tedious, and I was glad we > eventually reached some consensus about what we wanted. This much I do understand. And I apologize if I seem to be raising anew issues that should finally be behind us. >> Meanwhile, the new "folder:"

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-05 Thread Jani Nikula
Hi Carl - On Tue, 06 May 2014, Carl Worth wrote: > dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu writes: >> However, currently it seems strange that there are *two* different >> search terms (folder and path), and that neither one lets you search for >> a portion of your folder name. > > For what it's

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-05 Thread Carl Worth
dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu writes: > First, thanks for the response. The responsiveness and friendliness of > the notmuch mailing list goes a long way towards compensating for any > missing features / customizability one might want. I'm delighted to hear that the notmuch community mai

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sat, 03 May 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Mark Walters writes: > >>> All the way back. Now you are saying there will be no convenient way to >>> match just the "mail.class" part without the year? How very >>> distressing. Ugh. >> >> Hi >> >> I am not quite sure wha

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Mark Walters
Hi On Sat, 03 May 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Mark Walters writes: > >>> All the way back. Now you are saying there will be no convenient way to >>> match just the "mail.class" part without the year? How very >>> distressing. Ugh. >> >> Hi >> >> I am not quite sur

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread dm-list-email-notmuch
Jani Nikula writes: > It's not going to help you, but I'll mention a few of the issues the old > folder: search had, which we also had complaints about, and which would > have been quite hard to fix while preserving the behaviour you want. In > short, we considered the old folder: search broken.

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu
Jani Nikula writes: > It's not going to help you, but I'll mention a few of the issues the old > folder: search had, which we also had complaints about, and which would > have been quite hard to fix while preserving the behaviour you want. In > short, we considered the old folder: search broken.

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Mark Walters
Hi On Sat, 03 May 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Mark Walters writes: > >>> All the way back. Now you are saying there will be no convenient way to >>> match just the "mail.class" part without the year? How very >>> distressing. Ugh. >> >> Hi >> >> I am not quite sure w

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Jani Nikula
On Sat, 03 May 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Mark Walters writes: > >>> All the way back. Now you are saying there will be no convenient way to >>> match just the "mail.class" part without the year? How very >>> distressing. Ugh. >> >> Hi >> >> I am not quite sure what y

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Tomi Ollila
On Sat, May 03 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Jani Nikula writes: > >> On Fri, 02 May 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: >>> >>> I'm using a pretty standard maildir++ layout. For example, underneath >>> my database.path I have a bunch of mail in dire

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread dm-list-email-notmuch
Mark Walters writes: >> All the way back. Now you are saying there will be no convenient way to >> match just the "mail.class" part without the year? How very >> distressing. Ugh. > > Hi > > I am not quite sure what you are meaning by hierarchically group > messages. Searching for path:dir/foo

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu
Mark Walters writes: >> All the way back. Now you are saying there will be no convenient way to >> match just the "mail.class" part without the year? How very >> distressing. Ugh. > > Hi > > I am not quite sure what you are meaning by hierarchically group > messages. Searching for path:dir/foo

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Mark Walters
On Sat, 03 May 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Jani Nikula writes: > >> On Fri, 02 May 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: >>> >>> I'm using a pretty standard maildir++ layout. For example, underneath >>> my database.path I have a bunch of mail in dire

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 09:57:49PM -0700, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: > > Worse, because of my poor performance, I was hoping to segregate > messages by year. So it would be: > > 2013/.mail.class > 2013/.mail.voicemail > 2014/.mail.class > 2014/.mail.voicemail > >

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hello David, On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:16:07PM -0700, David Mazieres expires 2014-07-31 PDT wrote: > Mark Walters writes: > > > > Before checking other things: have you run notmuch new? That's needed to > > update the database. It is an irreversible update so notmuch-0.17 will > > not work with

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Tomi Ollila
On Sat, May 03 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Jani Nikula writes: > >> On Fri, 02 May 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: >>> >>> I'm using a pretty standard maildir++ layout. For example, underneath >>> my database.path I have a bunch of mail in directorie

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Jani Nikula
On Fri, 02 May 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Hey, I'm playing around with the head of the git repository > (bc64cdce289d84be2550c4fccb1f008d15eaeb0e) to try to figure out how the > new folder: prefixes work, as folders are a critical part of how I > organize my mail. (Si

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-03 Thread Mark Walters
On Sat, 03 May 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Jani Nikula writes: > >> On Fri, 02 May 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: >>> >>> I'm using a pretty standard maildir++ layout. For example, underneath >>> my database.path I have a bunch of mail in directorie

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 09:57:49PM -0700, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: > > Worse, because of my poor performance, I was hoping to segregate > messages by year. So it would be: > > 2013/.mail.class > 2013/.mail.voicemail > 2014/.mail.class > 2014/.mail.voicemail > > All

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hello David, On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:16:07PM -0700, David Mazieres expires 2014-07-31 PDT wrote: > Mark Walters writes: > > > > Before checking other things: have you run notmuch new? That's needed to > > update the database. It is an irreversible update so notmuch-0.17 will > > not work with

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread dm-list-email-notmuch
Jani Nikula writes: > On Fri, 02 May 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: >> >> I'm using a pretty standard maildir++ layout. For example, underneath >> my database.path I have a bunch of mail in directories such as: >> >> .INBOX.Main/{new,cur} >> .mail.class/{new,cur} >>

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu
Jani Nikula writes: > On Fri, 02 May 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch at scs.stanford.edu wrote: >> >> I'm using a pretty standard maildir++ layout. For example, underneath >> my database.path I have a bunch of mail in directories such as: >> >> .INBOX.Main/{new,cur} >> .mail.class/{new,cur}

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread David Mazieres expires 2014-07-31 PDT
Mark Walters writes: > Hi > > Before checking other things: have you run notmuch new? That's needed to > update the database. It is an irreversible update so notmuch-0.17 will > not work with the updated database. No, I haven't. Okay, so that must be it. Sorry for bothering people. The discuss

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread Mark Walters
Hi Before checking other things: have you run notmuch new? That's needed to update the database. It is an irreversible update so notmuch-0.17 will not work with the updated database. The update should save a dump of the tags before updating but you might want to do that manually too (and maybe e

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread Jani Nikula
On Fri, 02 May 2014, dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Hey, I'm playing around with the head of the git repository > (bc64cdce289d84be2550c4fccb1f008d15eaeb0e) to try to figure out how the > new folder: prefixes work, as folders are a critical part of how I > organize my mail. (Since

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread David Mazieres expires 2014-07-31 PDT
Mark Walters writes: > Hi > > Before checking other things: have you run notmuch new? That's needed to > update the database. It is an irreversible update so notmuch-0.17 will > not work with the updated database. No, I haven't. Okay, so that must be it. Sorry for bothering people. The discuss

Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread Mark Walters
Hi Before checking other things: have you run notmuch new? That's needed to update the database. It is an irreversible update so notmuch-0.17 will not work with the updated database. The update should save a dump of the tags before updating but you might want to do that manually too (and maybe e

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread dm-list-email-notmuch
Hey, I'm playing around with the head of the git repository (bc64cdce289d84be2550c4fccb1f008d15eaeb0e) to try to figure out how the new folder: prefixes work, as folders are a critical part of how I organize my mail. (Since tags are not hierarchical, folders are the best way for me to group mail t

folder and path completely broken in HEAD?

2014-05-02 Thread dm-list-email-notm...@scs.stanford.edu
Hey, I'm playing around with the head of the git repository (bc64cdce289d84be2550c4fccb1f008d15eaeb0e) to try to figure out how the new folder: prefixes work, as folders are a critical part of how I organize my mail. (Since tags are not hierarchical, folders are the best way for me to group mail t