Re: [openstack-dev] [lbaas] [octavia] Proposing Lubosz Kosnik (diltram) as Octavia Core

2016-10-10 Thread Stephen Balukoff
I agree whole-heartedly with johnsom's assessment of diltram's contributions. +1 from me! On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Michael Johnson wrote: > Greetings Octavia and developer mailing list folks, > > I propose that we add Lubosz Kosnik (diltram) as an OpenStack Octavia > core reviewer. > > H

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: [neutron][lbaas][barbican] Listener create fails

2016-09-23 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Jay-- If this is a production install, it's very unlikely that the admin user's password is "password". The neutron_lbaas.conf file will need to be updated with the admin user's actual password, and the neutron services daemon restarted. Stephen On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:29 AM, Jayanthi Jeyakum

Re: [openstack-dev] [octavia] Multi-node controller testing

2016-08-10 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Miguel-- There have been a number of tempest patches in the review queue for a long time now, but I think the reason they're not getting attention is that we don't want to have to import a massive amount of tempest code into our repository (which will become stale and need hot-fixing, as has happe

Re: [openstack-dev] [octavia] enabling new topologies

2016-06-13 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hey Sergey, In-line comments below: On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Sergey Guenender wrote: > > Hi Stephen, please find my reply next to your points below. > > Thank you, > -Sergey. > > > On 01/06/2016 20:23, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > > Hey Sergey-- > &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [octavia] enabling new topologies

2016-06-01 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hey Sergey-- Apologies for the delay in my response. I'm still wrapping my head around your option 2 suggestion and the implications it might have for the code base moving forward. I think, though, that I'm against your option 2 proposal and in favor of option 1 (which, yes, is more work initially

Re: [openstack-dev] [octavia] is l7 rule using routed L3 connectivity

2016-06-01 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hello Yong Sheng Gong! Apologies for the lateness of my reply (I've been intermittently available over the last month and am now just catching up on ML threads). Anyway, did you get your question answered elsewhere? It looks like you've discovered a bug in the behavior here-- when you created the

Re: [openstack-dev] [lbaas][octavia] Queries on octavia features

2016-04-15 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi Akshay! In response to your questions: The Mitaka release of Octavia is version 0.8. It's got most of the features of 1.0, but since the development path didn't exactly follow the road map (since nobody is prescient 18 months in advance) most of us felt more comfortable calling this release 0.

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-docs] Fwd: [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia][Docs] Need experienced contributor documentation best-practices and how-tos

2016-03-03 Thread Stephen Balukoff
you'll get to spend more time editing those documentation > > contributions than writing them from scratch yourself. And everyone wins > > then because the OpenStack documentation becomes more complete and sucks > > less. > > We greatly appreciate all the developers who

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia][Docs] Need experienced contributor documentation best-practices and how-tos

2016-03-03 Thread Stephen Balukoff
by tapping directly at the open source faucet. > Exactly what I fear as well. Please note that it is offensive to accuse a team of not stepping up when what I am doing in this very e-mail should be pretty good evidence that we are trying to step up. Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Principal T

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia][Docs] Need experienced contributor documentation best-practices and how-tos

2016-03-03 Thread Stephen Balukoff
lf. And everyone wins then because the OpenStack documentation becomes more complete and sucks less. In any case, I am certainly willing to provide feedback on the above suggested how-to guides, should someone decide to write them. Thanks, Stephen P.S. I still have no idea how I go about updatin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are weready?

2016-03-02 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ot for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-re

Re: [openstack-dev] [lbaas] [octavia] Proposing Stephen Balukoff as Octavia Core

2016-02-05 Thread Stephen Balukoff
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" < > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >> > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [lbaas] [octavia] Proposing Stephen > Balukoff as Octavia Core > > > > +1 >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Should subnet be optional on member create?

2016-01-19 Thread Stephen Balukoff
> > > > > > I feel that the subnet should be mandatory as there are too many > > > ambiguity issues due to overlapping subnets and multiple routes. > > > In the case of an IP being outside of the tenant networks, the user > > > would specify an external net

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Should subnet be optional on member create?

2016-01-18 Thread Stephen Balukoff
__ > >OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > _

Re: [openstack-dev] [lbaas] [octavia] Proposing Bertrand Lallau as Octavia Core

2015-11-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
k Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Stephen Balukoff Principal Technologist Blue Box, An IBM Company www.blueboxcloud.com sbaluk...@blueboxc

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] - Heat support for LbaasV2

2015-09-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
t;>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >

Re: [openstack-dev] custom lbaas driver

2015-09-10 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ments. Any help/pointers/links > would be great. > > thanks > Sri > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-b

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Questions about the Octavia project

2015-01-07 Thread Stephen Balukoff
juncture. > > I now have some feedback for my team, thanks again. > > Kind Regards > -- > Andrew Hutchings - LinuxJedi - http://www.linuxjedi.co.uk/ > > > > > _______ > OpenStack-dev mailing list >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Questions about the Octavia project

2015-01-07 Thread Stephen Balukoff
gt;Libra completely at one point. So that one is mainly my 2c :) > Most people on the project are pretty new to pecan and WSME, though we understand that OpenStack in general is moving in this direction, hence our willingness to give it a try. It's en

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Meetings canceled until Jan 7

2014-12-16 Thread Stephen Balukoff
etings would be held), but I was assured by the usual participants in these meetings that I would probably be the only one attending them. As such, the next Octavia meeting we'll be holding will happen on January 7th. In the mean time, let's bang out some code and get it reviewed! Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [RFC] Floating IP idea solicitation and collaboration

2014-12-10 Thread Stephen Balukoff
t; Interesting to know what is “ACTIVE-ACTIVE topology of load balancing VMs”. > > What is the scenario is it Service-VM (of NFV) or Tennant VM ? > > Curious to know the background of this thoughts . > > > > keshava > > > > > > *From:* Stephen Balukoff [mailto:s

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [RFC] Floating IP idea solicitation and collaboration

2014-12-08 Thread Stephen Balukoff
d L2VPN EVPN > >> Overlay (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sd-l2vpn-evpn-overlay-03) > to the > >> Ryu BGP speaker will allow the hypervisor side Ryu application to > advertise > >> up to the FLIP system reachability information to take into account VM > >> failover

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Shared Objects in LBaaS - Use Cases that led us to adopt this.

2014-12-08 Thread Stephen Balukoff
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Samuel Bercovici wrote: > +1 > > > > > > *From:* Stephen Balukoff [mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net] > *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 7:59 PM > > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [o

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Shared Objects in LBaaS - Use Cases that led us to adopt this.

2014-12-05 Thread Stephen Balukoff
wrote: > Hi Brandon + Stephen, > > > > Having all those permutations (and potentially testing them) made us lean > against the sharing case in the first place. It’s just a lot of extra work > for only a small number of our customers. > > > > German > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Shared Objects in LBaaS - Use Cases that led us to adopt this.

2014-12-04 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Sam, correct me if I am wrong. > > > > I generally like this idea. I do have a few reservations with this: > > > > 1) Creating and updating a load balancer requires a full tree > configuration with the current extension/plugin logic in neutron. Since > updates will r

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Meeting on Wednesday, Nov. 26th cancelled

2014-11-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
employees a half day off on this day ... we are cancelling Wednesday's Octavia meeting. See y'all again on Dec. 3rd at 20:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt (and keep working on those gerrit reviews!) Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Shared Objects in LBaaS - Use Cases that led us to adopt this.

2014-11-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
to have all > objects besides LB be treated as logical. > > 2. The 3rd use case bellow will not be reasonable without pool > sharing between different policies. Specifying different pools which are > the same for each policy make it non-started to me. > > > > -Sam.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Shared Objects in LBaaS - Use Cases that led us to adopt this.

2014-11-21 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ot; to the concrete LB objects. > You may want to revisit > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D-1n8nCEFurYzvEBxIRfXfffnImcIPwWSctAG-NXonY/edit#heading=h.3rvy5drl5b5r > the "Logical Model + Provisioning Status + Operation Status + Statistics" > for a somewhat more detailed explanation albeit it uses the LBaaS

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] meeting day/time change

2014-11-17 Thread Stephen Balukoff
; > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > >> > ___ >> > OpenStack-dev mailing list >> > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Mid-cycle hack-a-thon

2014-11-06 Thread Stephen Balukoff
talking about a 5 day Hackathon or 3 day with 2 days (Mon & Fri) > for travel? > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Adam Harwell > wrote: > >> Any chance it could actually be the week AFTER? Or is that to close to >> the holidays? <_< >> On Nov 6, 2014 7:2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-11-06 Thread Stephen Balukoff
t;Thanks, > >German > > > >From: Jorge Miramontes [mailto:jorge.miramon...@rackspace.com] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:51 AM > >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] rescheduling meeting

2014-11-06 Thread Stephen Balukoff
The current meeting time is too early for me (in PST8PDT time zone). I prefer the 16:00 UTC time or later. Stephen On Nov 6, 2014 8:22 AM, "Samuel Bercovici" wrote: > For us in Israel, the earlier the better. > > The current meeting time is very good for us, although I understand it too > early

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Mid-cycle hack-a-thon

2014-11-06 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ote: > I can probably make it up there to attend. > > --Adam > > https://keybase.io/rm_you > > > From: Stephen Balukoff > Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" < > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Date: Tuesda

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Mid-cycle hack-a-thon

2014-11-04 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Howdy, folks! We are planning to have a mid-cycle hack-a-thon in Seattle from the 8th through the 12th of December. This will be at the HP corporate offices located in the Seattle convention center. During this week we will be concentrating on Octavia code and hope to make significant progress to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Octavia's API becoming spun out LBaaS

2014-10-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
to the PROS and CONS if wanted. > > If it is direction we can agree on going then we can add as a talking > point in the advanced services spin out meeting: > > > http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/8a0b7c1d64883c08286e4446e163f1a6#.VEq66HWx3UY > > Thanks, > Brando

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-22 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ply, always be explicit. Implications usually stem from bad > assumptions. > > > Last but not least, we need to store every user and system load balancer > event such as creation, updates, suspension and deletion so that we may > bill on things like uptime and serve our customers better by knowing what >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Octavia Weekly Standup Reminder

2014-10-08 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Just tryin to help out Balukoff :P > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ Open

[openstack-dev] Weekly Octavia meeting (2014-10-01)

2014-10-01 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Octavia, please update our standup etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-weekly-standup Beyond that, this is your friendly reminder that the Octavia team meets on Wednesdays at 20:00UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Thoughts on launchpad usage

2014-09-25 Thread Stephen Balukoff
, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > Hi folks! > > First off-- thanks to Brandon for running yesterday's Octavia meeting when > I had to step out for an emergency at the last minute. > > Anyway, it's clear to me from the transcripts of the meeti

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Thoughts on launchpad usage

2014-09-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
which you might object to. If you're concerned about the direction some of these blueprints might go, I encourage you to subscribe to them, and then raise objections with me or with the group if you see a problem. We're speccing almost everything out as well, so keep

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meeting agenda

2014-09-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
he Octavia team meets on Wednesdays at 20:00UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/m

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Responsibilities for controller drivers

2014-09-15 Thread Stephen Balukoff
be walking a fine line between > flexibility and complexity. We just need to define how far over that > line and in which direction we are willing to go. > > Thanks, > Brandon > _______ > OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Question about where to render haproxy configurations

2014-09-07 Thread Stephen Balukoff
nvey an idea thoroughly or correctly, and lack of ability to grasp all the subtleties of someone else's idea, especially if there's confusion on terminology. Heck, in this thread alone I know I've misunderstood several of your points several times (and *mostly* on accident. ;) But I think the communication we've been having on this has been good and I think we're all understanding each other's concerns and aligning our efforts better by doing so, eh! In any case, I don't want anyone to feel like we can't revisit decisions made in the past if new knowledge, ideas, or a better understanding warrants it, eh. We just need to make sure we keep moving *mostly* forward, eh. :) Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Question about where to render haproxy configurations

2014-09-05 Thread Stephen Balukoff
default action to be taken upon a failure to push out a new config to be to check the version of the amphora and upgrade as necessary (ie. lazy upgrading)... Also, not that we can't revisit this of course: But the v0.5 component design entailing a "VM Driver" already went through gerrit review and was approved (by yourself even!) This discussion was originally about where to render the haproxy configs, but it really seems like y'all are against the idea of having an amphora driver interface at all. :/ Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Question about where to render haproxy configurations

2014-09-05 Thread Stephen Balukoff
the role of the controller to essentially be a driver (presumably having to duplicate all the common "controller" elements between these "effectively drivers" thingies)... which seems silly to me. The step to implementation-specific ob

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Question about where to render haproxy configurations

2014-09-03 Thread Stephen Balukoff
an image that doesn't support it. Lots of options, all of which can be intelligently handled within the driver / controller. Thoughts? Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Agenda and stand-up for 2014-09-03 meeting

2014-09-02 Thread Stephen Balukoff
other people working on the project are engaged in from week to week (modeled after the Neutron LBaaS weekly standup put together by Jorge). If you've been working on Octavia, please update this following the template here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-weekly-standup Stephen -

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas][octavia]

2014-09-02 Thread Stephen Balukoff
tisfy one of the requirements around Neutron incubation > graduation: Having a functional driver. And it also allows for the > driver to continue to live on next to the API. > > What do people think about this? > > Thanks, > Kyle > &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas][octavia]

2014-08-28 Thread Stephen Balukoff
standalone stackforge project we are assuming that > it would be looked favorable on when time is to move it into incubated > status. > > Susanne > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Using Nova Scheduling Affinity and AntiAffinity

2014-08-28 Thread Stephen Balukoff
can have > > something definitive on that soon. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBass] Design sessions for Neutron LBaaS. What do we want/need?

2014-08-28 Thread Stephen Balukoff
s-project issues, address key specific topics which need >> face-to-face time and broader attendance, then try to replicate the >> success of midcycle meetup-like open unscheduled time to discuss >> whatever is hot at this point. >> >> There are still de

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Agenda for tomorrow's meeting, where meeting is happening

2014-08-26 Thread Stephen Balukoff
0 UTC in #openstack-lbaas on the usual (Freenode) IRC network. Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/lis

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Minutes from 8/20/2013 meeting

2014-08-21 Thread Stephen Balukoff
want to distance ourselves from Neutron to some extent. We will > formalize this via a > networking driver in Octavia. Note: we do not want to burn any > bridges here, so we want to > be appropriate in our spin-out process. > > > > > Sorry for the delay in se

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Proposal to support multiple listeners on one HAProxy instance

2014-08-21 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ngle Octavia VM (perhaps at a lower price tier to the user). This is also similar to how actual load balancing hardware appliance vendors tend to operate. The restrction of 1 loadbalancer per Octavia VM does limit the operator's options, eh. Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] IRC meetings

2014-08-21 Thread Stephen Balukoff
n denominator. Please use the voting system that Doug set up above if you with your vote to be counted on this matter. (I would love to see newcomers showing up in our IRC channel or responding to the various mailing list discussions we have or will have going shortly, eh!

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Proposal to support multiple listeners on one HAProxy instance

2014-08-20 Thread Stephen Balukoff
without affecting any of the other listeners on the Octavia VM. Again, this is not possible if all listeners are serviced by one process. iii. If desired, an Operator can easily alter global logging configuration (alter log file location, increase verbosity, etc.) for a single listener (or all

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Agenda for 2014-08-20 meeting

2014-08-19 Thread Stephen Balukoff
I've put the agenda for tomorrow's Octavia meeting on the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Agenda Please feel free to edit it there and/or respond to this e-mail with additional items if you would rather not edit the wiki. Thanks, Stephen -- Stephe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Minutes from 8/13/2014 meeting

2014-08-18 Thread Stephen Balukoff
eting is still in IRC every thursday at > >14:00 UTC. I've just been pushing for IRC because I hate phone/video > >conferences with many people. The reasons you outlined are definitely > >the main reasons to do it, I'm just being selfish with my own reason. > >The plan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Object Model and DB Structure

2014-08-18 Thread Stephen Balukoff
uld accommodate that. > > > German > > > > *From:* Stephen Balukoff [mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net] > *Sent:* Monday, August 18, 2014 2:43 PM > > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Object Mo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Object Model and DB Structure

2014-08-18 Thread Stephen Balukoff
’t share anything except the VIP J So my motivation > is if we can have two listeners share the same VIP. Hope that makes sense. > > > > German > > > > *From:* Stephen Balukoff [mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net] > *Sent:* Monday, August 18, 2014 1:39 PM > *To:* OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Object Model and DB Structure

2014-08-18 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ck-dev@lists.openstack.org > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Object Model and DB Structure > > > > Oh hello again! > > > > You know the drill! > > > > On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 11:42 -0700, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > > > Hi Brandon, >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Object Model and DB Structure

2014-08-16 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi Brandon, Responses in-line: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Brandon Logan wrote: > Comments in-line > > On Fri, 2014-08-15 at 17:18 -0700, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I'm OK with going with no shareable child entities (List

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Object Model and DB Structure

2014-08-15 Thread Stephen Balukoff
or something similar. Would only > eixst on loadbalancer entity if loadbalancer is the only top level object. > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.or

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Agenda for 13 Aug 2014 meeting

2014-08-12 Thread Stephen Balukoff
the webex we're presently using for these meetings. Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-12 Thread Stephen Balukoff
utron LBaaS. Susanne > > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Stephen Balukoff > wrote: > >> Susanne, >> >> Are you asking in the context of Load Balancer services in general, or in >> terms of the Neutron LBaaS project or the Octavia project? >> >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-11 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ers. > >Regards Susanne > > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-43

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Minutes from 8/6/2014 meeting

2014-08-07 Thread Stephen Balukoff
, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > Wow, Trevor! Thanks for capturing all that! > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Trevor Vardeman < > trevor.varde...@rackspace.com> wrote: > >> Agenda items are numbered, and topics, as discussed, are described >> beneath in list forma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Minutes from 8/6/2014 meeting

2014-08-07 Thread Stephen Balukoff
t email this out > after each meeting to the Octavia mailing list, or should I also add it to > a page in an Octavia wiki for Meeting Notes/Minutes or something for review > by anyone? What are your thoughts? > > ___ > O

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-07 Thread Stephen Balukoff
On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 15:30 -0700, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > > Action items from today's Octavia meeting: > > > > > > 1. We're going to hold off for a couple days on merging the > > constitution and preliminary road map to give people (and in > > particu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-06 Thread Stephen Balukoff
r" solution can actually meet the needs of the operators developing it. Thanks, Stephen On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > Hello! > > We plan on resuming weekly meetings to discuss things related to the > Octavia project starting tomorrow: Augus

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Weekly meetings resuming + agenda

2014-08-05 Thread Stephen Balukoff
me to collect and share their data as well! I'm looking at you, Ebay. ;) ) Please feel free to respond with additional agenda items! Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list Ope

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] "status" in entities

2014-08-05 Thread Stephen Balukoff
bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Status and Expectations for Juno

2014-07-29 Thread Stephen Balukoff
gt;>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>4. Tempest tests for LBaaS V2 API > >>> >>> > >>> >>>Miguel is currently working on these. Miguel do you expect these > >>>to be > >>> >>>done in time? > >&g

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-23 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ement Ceilometer > metrics that reveal PoolMember health? > > Thanks, > Mike > > _______ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - certificates data persistency

2014-07-23 Thread Stephen Balukoff
g list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor Framework spec approval deadline exception

2014-07-23 Thread Stephen Balukoff
> > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > _______ > OpenStack-dev mailing list &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Update on specs we needed approved

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen Balukoff
> OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ O

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - certificates data persistency

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen Balukoff
cycle. > > Does anyone sees a reason why caching certificates’ data in Neutron > database is critical? > > > > Thank you, > > Evg > > > > > _______ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://li

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - SNI - Extracting SubjectCommonName and/or SubjectAlternativeNames from X509

2014-07-17 Thread Stephen Balukoff
p GEN_DIRNAME entries since RFC2818 doesn't mandate its > support and I'm not sure if fetching the CN from the DirName is in practice > now. I'm leery of using CN's from DirName entries as I can imagine people > signing differen't X509Names as a DirName with no intention

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - Certificate conflict resolution

2014-07-17 Thread Stephen Balukoff
wo. Thanks, Stephen On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > Hi Vijay, > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Vijay Venkatachalam < > vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Do you know if the SSL/SNI IETF spec details abo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - SubjectAlternativeNames (SAN)

2014-07-17 Thread Stephen Balukoff
wo. Thanks, Stephen On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > Vijay-- > > I'm confused: If NetScaler doesn't actually look at the SAN, isn't it not > actually following the SNI standard? (RFC2818 page 4, paragraph 2, as I > think Carlos point

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - SNI - Extracting SubjectCommonName and/or SubjectAlternativeNames from X509

2014-07-17 Thread Stephen Balukoff
wo. Thanks, Stephen On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > Just saw this thread after responding to the other: > > I'm in favor of Evgeny's proposal. It sounds like it should resolve most > (if not all) of the operators', vendors' and users&

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor framework proposal

2014-07-16 Thread Stephen Balukoff
in the description to cover (1) If there are problems people are trying to solve with flavors that are not among the above 4 points, I would suggest that these either become a part of a later revision of flavors, or simply get discussed as a new entity entirely (depending on what peop

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - SubjectAlternativeNames (SAN)

2014-07-16 Thread Stephen Balukoff
>> > >> From: Samuel Bercovici [mailto:samu...@radware.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:52 PM > >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); > >> Vijay Venkatachalam > >> Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - Certificate conflict resolution

2014-07-16 Thread Stephen Balukoff
ion' error or whatnot? (I believe we're trying to get the ability to return such errors with the flavor framework, correct?) In any case, is there any reason to delay going forward with a model and code that: A. Uses an 'order' attribute on the SNI-related objects to reso

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - SNI - Extracting SubjectCommonName and/or SubjectAlternativeNames from X509

2014-07-16 Thread Stephen Balukoff
> OK. > > > > Let me be more precise, extracting the information for view sake / > validation would be good. > > Providing values that are different than what is in the x509 is what I > am opposed to. > > > > +1 for Carlos on the library and that it should be ub

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor framework proposal

2014-07-15 Thread Stephen Balukoff
t; API (that's mainly because of how flavor plugin interacts with service > plugins) > Yes, I think single-service flavors is almost certainly going to be a simpler thing to implement, too-- and if we want to get flavors in for Juno (which I know *we* really want to do), then I think reducing the complexity here is probably a good idea, at least for the first revision. Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Flavor framework proposal

2014-07-15 Thread Stephen Balukoff
e this makes sense? What are the characteristics of a flavor that applies to more than one service type? Let's see if we can come to some conclusions on this so that we can get flavors into Juno, please! Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 _

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] TLS capability - SNI - Extracting SubjectCommonName and/or SubjectAlternativeNames from X509

2014-07-15 Thread Stephen Balukoff
d code/driver must(?) extract SCN and(?) SAN and > use it for certificate determination for host > > > > Please give your feedback > > > > Thanks, > > Evg > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics

2014-07-10 Thread Stephen Balukoff
I think its a good idea to use the > time that way at least until Octavia is more of a priority. Does anyone > else share this same concern? Do we think that's a good use of that time? > > > > -Trevor > > ___ > OpenStack-dev m

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Shim vs Agent Refactor

2014-07-10 Thread Stephen Balukoff
with the old driver, right now. Once L7 and TLS get in then > yes there would be. > > I'd just like to get people's ideas on this. > > Thanks, > Brandon > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openst

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] topics for Thurday's Weekly LBaaS meeting's agenda

2014-07-08 Thread Stephen Balukoff
a and operator > requirements with Stephen and who else wants to contribute. > > Regards Susanne > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opens

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Temporary project leadership team

2014-06-30 Thread Stephen Balukoff
that if you do, please also do us the courtesy of explaining how we're supposed to merge code using the gerrit system without having a PTL or core reviewers. Anyway, this is the list of folks we agreed upon: Interim PTL: Stephen Balukoff Interim core reviewers: Vivek Jain, Brandon Logan, Germa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Which entities need status

2014-06-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
rovisioning status of all of its children. So if a health >>> monitor >>> > >is updated then the load balancer that health monitor is linked to >>> would >>> > >have its status changed to PENDING_UPDATE. Conversely, if a load >>> > >balancer or any entities linked to it are change

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Layer7 Switching - L7 Rule - comapre_type values

2014-06-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
aas-l7-rules.rst >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Avishay >> >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Should TLS settings for listener be set through separate API/model?

2014-06-24 Thread Stephen Balukoff
oruk [mailto:evge...@radware.com ] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:25 PM > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Should TLS settings for > listener be set through separate API/model? > > > > +

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Should TLS settings for listener be set through separate API/model?

2014-06-23 Thread Stephen Balukoff
s silly to spend much energy on something so minor right now.) On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > Ok, so we've got opinions on both sides of the argument here. I'm actually > pretty ambivalent about it. Do others have strong opinions on this? > > &

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Should TLS settings for listener be set through separate API/model?

2014-06-23 Thread Stephen Balukoff
a 1:1 relationship? Putting that in a new table > sounds like premature optimization to me; design the database change for > the future feature when you can see the spec for it. > > Thanks, > Doug > > > From: Stephen Balukoff > Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Should TLS settings for listener be set through separate API/model?

2014-06-23 Thread Stephen Balukoff
> > Listener object. > > > > Cons: > > -It's another entity > > > > In IRC we (sbalukoff, myself) seemed to agree option 2 is right way to > > go. Anyone agree or disagree? > > > > Thanks, > > Brandon > > > > On Mon, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] Should TLS settings for listener be set through separate API/model?

2014-06-23 Thread Stephen Balukoff
k.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

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