Jos de Fotograaf wrote:
This weekend my country (Netherlands) moved to summer time (DST)
I could have changed the clock of my K1 the easy way by just set the
clock 1 hour later.
I decided to let it happen automatically.
In the menu I selected "GPS time sync"
Then I switched on GPS logging a
That is clear to me, Jan, at first sight I am thinking that the time
table info could be easily modulated on the GPS signal.
I could not find detailed specification of the system and signals.
Greetz, Jos
On 28-Mar-17 14:42, Jan van Wijk wrote:
Hallo Jos,
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:19:56 +0200 J
Hallo Jos,
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:19:56 +0200 Jos de Fotograaf wrote:
>
>_Is DST in the GPS info itself?_
No
>Some members suggested that the camera needs look-up tables to see DST data of
>specific countries.
>I am not so sure about that.
You need either DST tables (combined with timezone in
_Problem solved!_
In the GPS/Compass menu I checked the "GPS time sync" box, I thought
this should give automatic DST switching.
But in the "World time" menu, I have home town Amsterdam and destination
Amsterdam, then if you go one menu deeper, there is a check box for DST.
Checking this bo
Yes it would use UTC most likely. I must add that none of my cameras
have ever transitioned to DST automatically. Maybe I am using it wrong
somehow? Ok. I just looked at my K-3 and though it was set to Chicago
as the city it never changed. It does have DST highlighted though next
to it so I'm confu
Well, yes and no. If you look at that standard Time/Date structure,
(Gaud this is getting into the weeds), if the software is using it
correctly it's stores UTC a flag and an offset to get the local time. I
assume that the OS used by the camera includes a Time/Date object. I
also assume it s
Many times when I travel across time zones (a) I don’t have GPS time activated,
and (b) I don’t remember to adjust the clock. So I wind up with a bunch of
files which are offset -5 hours. And I have considered just leaving it that
way. However I often search through my photos with a time in mind
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 3:59 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> However the problem seems to be that
> setting that flag on Jos' camera doesn't work, or maybe I completely
> misunderstood the issue.
I don't think Jos has changed the DST checkbox manually; at least he
hasn't indicated that he has. I expec
Yes, I know. That makes it not UTC.
> On 27 Mar 2017, at 20:51, P. J. Alling wrote:
>
> It pretty much is on UTC. The current time zone is just an offset based on
> the home city.
>
>
>> On 3/27/2017 3:39 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> If I had a camera that had gps I would just let it record ever
You're right, about the automatic DST change. You have to change the
DST flag to display DST. I was wrong, at least about the K-5II. I'm
not going to charge a battery for the K20D to test that or go through
the rigamarole that's required to get the *istDs or D working just to
them. I think
It pretty much is on UTC. The current time zone is just an offset based
on the home city.
On 3/27/2017 3:39 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
If I had a camera that had gps I would just let it record everything as UTC
rather than try to account for different places. It makes life easier - one
less thin
Our Prime Minister fires the official starting gun for Brexit tomorrow. It's
going to be interesting in two years when the actual exit happens to see how we
will cope with setting the clocks back to 1972. I wonder if Little Jimmy Osmond
will still be no. 1 in the pop charts.
> On 27 Mar 2017, a
If I had a camera that had gps I would just let it record everything as UTC
rather than try to account for different places. It makes life easier - one
less thing to clutter my head with. In fact even without gps I think I just
leave them on UTC.
> On 27 Mar 2017, at 19:15, Jos de Fotograaf wr
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 3:15 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> The K-5II does, the K20D does, the *ist-Ds does, though it's set in North
> America at least to a hopelessly out dated change time, as is the *ist-D.
My K10D, K-7, and K-5 II, set to New York, have never automatically
transitioned DST. I hav
The K-5II does, the K20D does, the *ist-Ds does, though it's set in
North America at least to a hopelessly out dated change time, as is the
*ist-D. Stan's description of how his two K-1's behave are consistent
with that. So I think I'm pretty safe in assuming that the K-1 will, if
working pro
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:49 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> So there are a few possibilities. You set your home city to someplace that
> has the same offset from GMT/UTC as WET but doesn't observe DST, or you've
> set the camera to think you're traveling to such a city. or there's a
> firmware or ha
Well I finally decided to look at time zones, and the Netherlands is on
WET, which means that it's a major time zone, and DST changes for all of
that time zone at the same time. Which by the measure of most software
development teams is worth having in the cameras onboard time zone table.
So
Stan, you live in a major time zone, when firmware updates stop for the
K-1, and the U.S. changes when DST starts and ends, as they did a few
years ago, your camera will stop updating the time correctly too. I had
that problem with my PC running an "outdated" OS. It required a patch,
which ma
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Jos de Fotograaf
wrote:
> I will check with Ricoh/Pentax why there would be no DST timetable for the
> Netherlands. As they should know US could be first but Netherlands are
> second!
Um, has anybody actually said that it changed automatically in the US
or anywhe
Stan, your explanation of GPS sounds logic, thks.
The GPS is also used when shooting ASTRO, but I did not try that yet.
I will check with Ricoh/Pentax why there would be no DST timetable for
the Netherlands. As they should know US could be first but Netherlands
are second!
Anyhow, I will not
Jos, my understanding is that the K-1 GPS Logging has nothing to do with
photography. It allows you to treat your camera as though it were a GPS
handheld device, but it is not connected to your basic camera functions.
With Logging, a subroutine in the firmware will periodically query the GPS
ch
I don't know for sure but I expect that the firmware doesn't have every
different DST change programmed in. It wouldn't surprise me at all that
the programmers tasked were following a requirement document that didn't
include the Netherlands or a lot of other "smaller" districts that have
diffe
Just because the K-1 has a GPS doesn't mean it knows about DST. For
that you need an extra file of info listing for every country in the
world the dates that DST in that country begins and ends. My Garmin
gps for example has such a list (and that list gets regular updates)
and the firmware to make
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Jos de Fotograaf
wrote:
> Hi Matthew, that is a practical approach, but K1 has GPS and should know the
> local time, Greetz, Jos
Every year some countries in the world change their laws regarding
time zones and DST. I would imagine Pentax doesn't want to take on
Hi Stanley, thks. So it should work. I will contact local Pentax for info.
Maybe you can help in understanding the GPS.
What does the camera do when GPS logging is on?
Reasoning behind selecting a certain logging interval and duration?
Greetz, Jos
On 27-Mar-17 15:16, Stanley Halpin wrote:
Hi Matthew, that is a practical approach, but K1 has GPS and should know
the local time, Greetz, Jos
On 27-Mar-17 15:04, Matthew Hunt wrote:
I don't have a K-1, but none of my Pentax cameras have ever
transitioned automatically between standard time and DST. That is, the
camera does not know t
I just checked mine. Both have GPS Time Sync turned on. On my primary K-1, I
had DST checked. The indicated time was correct. On my backup, I had not
checked DST in the Time submenu. The indicated time was off by one hour. I
checked the DST Checkbox, the time immediately adjusted to the correct
I don't have a K-1, but none of my Pentax cameras have ever
transitioned automatically between standard time and DST. That is, the
camera does not know the rules for DST transitions, but instead relies
on the user to tell it whether DST is in effect. The camera will use
the timezone and DST setting
This weekend my country (Netherlands) moved to summer time (DST)
I could have changed the clock of my K1 the easy way by just set the
clock 1 hour later.
I decided to let it happen automatically.
In the menu I selected "GPS time sync"
Then I switched on GPS logging and left it on for one hou
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