Here's a better pic of the Baggins.
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
> The ones Joe Bernard posted were closer, Joe - did those have a magnet system
> for the closure?
>
> On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:57:45 PM UTC-7, Gustavo Vasquez wrote:
>
> Pretty sure this one
Dstein, I don't think so, I'm pretty sure it used a brass buckle like the other
Baggins stuff of the time. I don't remember the brown one you're thinking of,
that's a fairly recent (3 years ago?) color.
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not exactly what you asked for but I'm going to share it anyway. 80mm with
lots of rise. Nitto and has a 25.4 bar clamp. I have only seen this on Blue
Lug but seems like people have had good experience ordering from them.
https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-mcr65-stem-silver.html
On Sunday, 7
The ones Joe Bernard posted were closer, Joe - did those have a magnet
system for the closure?
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 9:57:45 PM UTC-7, Gustavo Vasquez wrote:
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> Pretty sure this one isn't it but I think it's an older baggins, the fella
> I bought it from had a Atlantis that he eventually
I love the shape of this frame. It's like a swoopy fast version of the clem and
it would look even better with the curvy seat stays seen on some of the other
rivs
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Thanks, the latest ones I saw (which is what I’m interested in) wasn’t too long
ago so likely well past the Baggins name and was a dark color. Interested to
see who has one?
> On Jun 7, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Baggins Boxy Bag with a dedicated Nitto mount. I believe it had
What was that handlebar bag that Rivendell used to have that was boxy and
shaped like a front rando bag but it was fully attached to the handlebars
instead of needing a front rack? It has these awesome magnets to keep shut?
Last one I saw a few years back at the walnut creek shop was a dark
I think GP would ask him and he would say no.
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Throwing my hat in the ring for Hunqapillar as my favorite. I'm not a fan
of the people names: Sam Hillborne, Frank Jones Jr, Clem Smith, with one
exception being A Homer Hilsen just because it sounds like an old timey
baseball player and I like baseball. Though, I would love to see a Henry
I'm not sure Jim ever took a position about the Blahg. I did and thought it was
on topic and hoo boy was I wrong, it's a personal blog about all kinds of stuff
that's probably best handled on Rivbike's Instagram or an email to Grant. There
are conversations I've had here related to it that I
Argh, I foolishly confused thread less with threaded. My bad.
Eric
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Grant starts a number of wildly off-topic hares. Take just one example:
"Eat Bacon, Don't Jog." We have in the past in effect taken the
position that if Grant Petersen wrote about it, it's on topic, no matter
what kind of wild and crazy notion it is, or how more or less it might
be related
Riv has a 60mm in the hi-riser threadless version and assuming the 6cm is
measured parallel to the angle of rise like dirt drop quill stems it might be
closer to 5cm +/- in total reach.
Good folks in your neighboring Utah make this fiver-
https://www.altaracks.com/product/alta-six-gpr-five-pack/
-Kai
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Deacon,
The challenge with this situation is finding a “Riv” like solution. When I had
the same need as you, I was looking at a DMR Defy 50 stem. Threadless, 50mm
(available in 35mm too) and 5mm of rise. It looks good in a robot CNC machined
sort of way but not in a lugs and leather sort of
Understood, Jim. Thank you. Soothing balm makes a lot of sense. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 8:09:05 PM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
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> Thank you Deacon.
>
> Given the tension and tone of the world right now, I'd rather not try that
> experiment for a little bit.
>
>
Hi John -
Please see my response to Franklyn's post, which covers most of what you
mention.
- Jim
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 6:43:00 PM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
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> Hi Jim,
>
> I'm in agreement with everything you wrote. Thank you.
>
> I do have a question about limiting posts,
Thank you Deacon.
Given the tension and tone of the world right now, I'd rather not try that
experiment for a little bit.
I'm not necessarily saying it's off the table, but I'd prefer to table that
at the moment.
- Jim
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 11:22:08 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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>
Franklyn -
Thank you for your thoughtful post and questions.
My greatest concern is that everyone is raw enough right now that it
doesn't take much to trigger things.
I guess I'm asking people to de-escalate rather than intensify any
conversations, should that choice be available to them.
Greetings all, I’m looking to buy a Brooks B72 in black for a camping bike
build (MB-6 frame).
If anyone has one for sale please message me?
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Hey Ryan,
Sorry about the darkness- I tried to contact you yesterday- I'm not sure I
got your pm, but anyway, they're all yours- I hope this gets through-
Andy
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 5:01:21 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:
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> Has anyone heard back from Andy?
> Been dark since my early
I’m new here and really happy to find this group. Please keep it alive!
Buying and selling is helpful, but I’ve been using I to look at other builds
and get ideas for a couple rob frames I’m building up. And I bought an older
model Sam H double top tube here too, a frame I’d been jonesing after
Hi Jim,
I'm in agreement with everything you wrote. Thank you.
I do have a question about limiting posts, specifically your request to
"Please do not start non-RBW _bicycle_ threads." In the past, some of
RBW's Blug & Blahg posts incited some very heated exchanges (i.e. helmets,
zip
Howdy! Im a long time Riv fan whos never owned one! Looking for some wierd
ones, f/f or complete.
Thanks!
Andrew
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I have an Atlantis with a basket but haven’t been on the trail since last
Monday. My gf and good friend both have Hillbornes, one black the other sage.
See you out there sometime.
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Hi all,
Brand spanking new HH frame in Medium. Color is orange. Includes frame,
fork, headset, BB, and some hardware. I will throw in two seat posts that
I purchased at the same time. I have the Silver tandem crankset and if you
want it, let me know but it is NOT included in this price
Patrick, I don't think anyone would know because that thingy is designed to
keep a bag off the canti cable, hence, most everyone who's used it had that.
But my guess? Yep! I'm going to say your guard got loose and maybe they all
tend to, but you didn't have a brake wire to interfere with its
Eagle eye! No, no rear brake cantilever cable housing hangar like that
shown in the photo; just bare straight stays.
All: Is such a hangar necessary for succesful use of the Nitto Wire Guard?
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 6:18 PM Mitch Harris wrote:
Do you have a brake hanger bridge like that on your
Everything sold and that Clem rack went fast. Thanks for helping clear up some
space.
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Peace. Nobody should ever try to mess with your tubeless Big Ones. The
proof is in the pudding, or something.
Schwalbe SV19A tubes for 700C x 40-62mm 140gr.
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/schwalbe-tubes-for-700c-tires/
doubtless available elsewhere too.
On Sunday,
the big question is what will you do with the photos. many of us simply
send them via the net to people we know or post on websites. how important
is radical picture quality when looking on the average phone or tablet, or
desktop monitor.
i too bout an EMIII a couple of years ago and realized
I bought an Olympus E-M10 Mark iii camera last winter, and have already
acquired a little collection of lenses, including the "prime trio" of 17, 25,
and 45mm F/1.8 (35, 50, and 90mm equivalent in 35mm) lenses. I love the image
quality, real "bokeh" (as opposed to the fake bokeh you get with
I don't want to hear more evidence. I want my tubeless Big Ones. *Quod erat
demonstrandum *(as Euclid would say).
But I'm pleased to hear you can buy 140 gram fat tubes.
Patrick "the evidence is good enough for me, data be damned" Moore
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 5:46 PM ted wrote:
> I don't
I don't doubt she shaved 1.5 lbs in the switch at all, just that it is all
in swapping tubes for sealant.
Try your calcs again ignoring the tires.
e.g:
(250-60)*2/454 -> ~ 0.84 lbs
Now the tires alone:
(800-450)*2/454 -> ~ 1.54 lbs
It's the tires man, the tires. Is all I'm saying.
Oh
Nitto Technomic comes in a 5cm extension with 225mm quill length that can be
had from eBay for 40$. Also, a dirt drop stem with 8cm extension is only
marginally longer in forward extension than the 5cm technomic.
Eric
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Here is what I can calculate from memory for the switch for my 29er wheels;
I realize that Leah uses 650B, so adjust accordingly.
700C X 60 Big Apple, the "Liteskin" version: 800 grams on my scale.
Box-stock 29er tube: 250 grams.
Total: 1050 grams.
700C X 60 Big One: 450 grams on my scale.
2 fl
I consider myself to be someone who likes trailing-edge reliable tech. I spent
many years happily snapping away with my canon film SLR. I’ve had various
iterations of Canon digital SLRs.. some even use my 15-year-old lenses.
I bought a Samsung mirrorless camera years ago and even put aside my
Hi Patrick,
The Discord Components Cremee stem from Analog Cycles isn't inexpensive,
but it checks the quality, short and riser boxes:
https://www.analogcycles.com/product/discord-components-creemee-stem/
Not sure how nicely it will play with 25.4 (See Analog's comment) but it
might be worth
I met no other Rivendell riders on this afternoon's 21 mile out-and-back,
but I got a lot of friendly waves (but not from the one man who passed me,
durn him -- tho' I console myself that he was at least 20 years younger
than I who just got onto Medicare). I rode south for 10 miles on the Rio
Depending on the size tires you ride, replacing your tubes with sealant can
save a few ounces but 1.5 pounds seems implausible.
1.5 pounds is 24 oz. add 3 for sealant (mind i think that 2-4 oz. is per
wheel so I should add 6) and you get 27 so your tubes were over 13oz. each?
That's about
I've been trying to decide on a rack but my "quiver" of bikes is odd enough
that getting a rack that works with them all is difficult. Plus the vehicles I
need to put the rack on add complexity.
Right now I'm leaning towards the Draftmaster since I do need to transport a
tandem in addition to
"I should have added that this was attached to a bike with no rear brake --
fixed gear with front brake only."
Oh. You posted a pic with brakes and I extrapolated. And we all know how
painful that can be.
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I recommended Canon before. Sony's great, but they're $.
This one is good, and you can collect lenses, and if you crunch it by accident
it's not the end of the world.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1321345-REG/canon_eos_m5_mirrorless_digital.html
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You are wrong; any $10 cage, let alone whatever the Nittos cost, ought to
be able to hold a 28 oz bottle; after all, the cheapos did without any
problems whatsoever. Defective design or build at a premium price, period.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:37 PM Steve Palincsar wrote:
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> On 6/7/20 6:31
On 6/7/20 6:31 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
I have confirmed your suspicion. I charge $50 per confirmation. Please
paypal friends and family to blah blah blah.
Well! I have to say that, if my and Deacon's suspicions are correct,
this is only the second of very many sound Nitto products that are
I should have added that this was attached to a bike with no rear brake --
fixed gear with front brake only.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:33 PM Joe Bernard wrote:
> I wonder if it was sitting almost on top of your straddle cable and
> braking pulled the straddle up and dislodged it.
>
> --
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I wonder if it was sitting almost on top of your straddle cable and braking
pulled the straddle up and dislodged it.
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I have confirmed your suspicion. I charge $50 per confirmation. Please
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Well! I have to say that, if my and Deacon's suspicions are correct, this
is only the second of very many sound Nitto products that are faulty, the
other being the very pretty and
Watching. You've hit the very reason I've not gotten them: fear that my
jouncy rides are too much for something not screwed or strapped on, other
than me engine, which just sits like a freeloadin' slug on the bike. Grin.
With abandon,
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Patrick,
I switched to mirrorless about 4 years ago from a digital SLR. I selected the
Fuji X-T1 and have been really happy with it. It’s light and is weather
sealed. It takes various lenses, though I find the 18-55 kit lens very useful,
especially when cycling. Of course, Fuji has now come
Thanks, all! The trailer idea may be the winner to consider, especially as
they would be easily found used. The Recon Rack is intriguing too.
To paint a fuller picture: we've had a rear mount rack (not trailer hitch)
for 3 bikes, and we have a 2 bike roof rack, but I'm the only one who can
That Recon actually looks like it would have none of the issues I mentioned.
Went through 3 rack purchases over the years and somehow this company never
made it on my radar.
Clayton Scott
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I just want to shout out to the Rivsisters how much joy, enthusiasm, and a
fresh perspective you each are adding to this list.
Welcome Melanie, Roberta and Leah you each already know how much respect I
maintain for you amazing Riv owners.
The fact that you have found, love, and promote Rivendell
When I go touring, I take my phone and a Sony RX100 (I've had the RX100
original model, then the RX100 IV, and now the RX100 VII). The cameras in
phones are now good enough that most of the photos I take are with the
phone, and the Sony only gets used when I need the extra reach afforded by
Thank you Aaron and DP for the feedback. I have to dial in the additional
cost/search for a new rear derailleur. The vintage Deore most likely won't
work with the gearing range.
JohnS
On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 6:58:13 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Smooth as butter, John. I think
Ok, two quick searches answered my own question. Smallest Susie has a 53”
wheelbase, the basic Saris Freedom supports up to 48”, so I guess I need to
order the long wb bar.
Max
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Reading the other post on racks made me wonder... will my Saris freedom fit the
upcoming Susie? Or do I need some extra parts?
Max
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Well, the other thing the #RivSisters wanted was less weight. Tubes are heavier
than sealant - the sealant was only 2-4 ounces. If I remember right, I got rid
of 1.5 pounds by shedding tubes. That said, none of us women are weight weenies
- we’re choosing stout Rivendell bikes as our daily
i use the Panasonic ZS100, the predecessor to this model:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-zs200-tz200
it is as complicated as you want it to be or can simply be point and stupid
like me. i think this and the Sony RX are considered the best in the class
of camera. when i
Has anyone heard back from Andy?
Been dark since my early inquires and offers to buy?
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan
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DP: Can you fit one bike in the back of the vehicle and then put the other four
on the rack? If so, Saris makes a bike rack (Freedom is the model name, I
think) that holds 4 bikes and you can buy long wheelbase bars to fit the LWB of
the Clementines. I have the 2019 version with a 50 inch WB
The Riv-sisters are changing three things at once (tires, wheels, tubeless)
with wondrous results. Which of course is great.
How much of the wondrousness is directly due to tubeless is, I think, an
open (though perhaps unimportant) question. As such the clarity of that
other dividing line
Recon racks make them. Not cheap but a friend of mine has their 4 bike rack and he loves it. Bikes with fenders could be an issue.http://recon-racks.com/#Robert TilleySan Diego, CA
Awesome bike! Glad everything worked out and you are getting to enjoy you
Clem even more!
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> Strange Magic
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They do exist. However, even my 4 bike hitch rack (Thule) is really more of a 2
bike rack. Stacking 5 bikes on 5 bike rack might be quite a challenge if it is
spaced similarly to mine. In addition the bikes tend to rub against each other
unless you really "pack" them well which is time
Most of my rides are along the American River Bike Trail in the Sacramento
area. For me they are therapeutic, grounding, and recharging. I love
seeing the the changes of seasons, and deepening my relationship with the
outdoors beyond my own property (which is a very small orchard). Most of
Spoke Nipples! Sorry. hit spost before proofreading.
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 4:28:47 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
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> Congrats Roberta! So glad it all worked out so well for you! Its always
> nice to take something you enjoy and find a way to enjoy it even more! Hope
> to see you on the
Congrats Roberta! So glad it all worked out so well for you! Its always
nice to take something you enjoy and find a way to enjoy it even more! Hope
to see you on the trail sometime. I won't be able to miss the purple
nipples!
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There's no list that can. It's as incendiary a topic for a bicycling
list as you could come up with.
On 6/7/20 3:36 PM, Jim M. wrote:
Polite discourse has always been a list requirement, and the list
can't even keep to that guideline over the subject of helmets.
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Ah, got it. I follow her on the IG but can never keep track of the changing
names and @names across platforms.
Joe Bernard
@JoeOfTheNorth Twitter
@rideymcbiker Instagram
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Also no. I have all kinds of thoughts on things that some will agree with and
some - even people who like me! - consciously avoid on my Twitter feed. That
and a hundred other outlets are where this kind of thing belongs, it's not
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Precisely my assessment as well, Ted. Goatheads are the dividing line I
see. Yet, clearly, there is another dividing line that Roberta and
Riv-sisters are pointing out as well, and I'm delighted it is working for
them.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-6, ted
I've no longer a mobile phone and thus no longer have the incorporated camera
and it's happy ability to take a burst of photos after a set delay of 20
seconds or so. Kai kindly recommended Sony, and in my research I ended up
finding the simplicity of mirrorless, which presumably means heartier
Hi,
I’ve got a lot of chainrings here. Are you interested in buying some?
All the chainrings listed here are new. Unless o’wise noted, chainrings
are silver and are flat; ramps/pins and other colors are noted. Most
chainrings are 110 BCD, with a bunch of 130s, 74s, and a smattering of
144
Is there such a beastie? Needs to fit Clementine wheelbase. My wife and
daughters would ride much more if they didn't have to ride to where it is kid
friendly to ride.
With abandon,
Patrick
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I love my Wavy Bar better than Jones on my GBW, but want it higher/closer, like
the Jones is, so wondering what inexpensive, quality stem options there are for
short (5cm or less) and/or with rise.
With abandon,
Patrick
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Aaron, I tend to agree with you on all counts. I don't see myself warming
up to this anytime soon (or ever), but I think part of the problem is it
really doesn't jive with the drop bars. I get that it's immensely practical
at least, but hopefully it'll undergo some further refinement.
On
On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 11:22:08 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> I propose a monthly or quarterly "Calm Colloquy for Summer 2020"
>
A big "no" vote from me on that proposal. Polite discourse has always been
a list requirement, and the list can't even keep to that guideline over the
Hey Deacon,
Though you are certainly big, and you may be an Ogre, I think we both know
you're not dumb.
I think sometimes the move to tubeless gets conflated with the move to big
supple low pressure tires, because some people do both at the same time. As
you are already riding big supple low
Who is Sal?
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I was excited about this project but seeing that frame does not make my eyes
happy. It reminds me of a cheap “compact” road frame that manufacturers make to
offer fewer sizes.
I guess that fits into the less expensive mold, but I was hoping for something
more closely akin to a tig welded AHH
So buzzy! I dig it
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Captain
Any Pictures?
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
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Sweet ride, Roberta! I know how much more my daughters love riding their
lighter Clementines compared with their previous, much heavier kid's bikes
or 90s Trek rebuilds. As an ogre who carries my bikepacking rig weighing up
to 100 pounds as needed, I don't innately appreciate that need and
Thank you, Jim, first and foremost for this group and the love you pour
into in, and thus us, through the years. I will strive to abide by these
strictures, with the caveat that I may forget to erase the bits of my
signature when I start a thread by email, and understand if those posts are
Dang, that is a beautiful new wheelset and a heck of a pair of bikes. The
purple nipples with the touch of gold is precisely my plan. This motivates
me to get my XO-1 sold, since that's what's primarily funding the new
wheelset.
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Hi, Everyone. I had to borrow a computer today to respond. I can write
more when I get home. Such a lively discussion. I don't mind any civil
discussions, because it's on this board that I've learned so much!
First, let me say, I don't mind a heavy bike, but for for a female my age
(or any
Melanie, we need pics, all the pics!
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To pacify the fussbudgets, please reply on this separate thread. I am very
interested in others' experiences.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 10:44 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... So, I would be very interested to have others chime in on the subject.
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By the way, I hope I did not come across as too aggressive; I was simply
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You obviously have quite a bit of experience with tires, and your opinion
about tubeless, fwiw, corresponds to Jan Heine's, whom I'd consider an
authority of a sort. Of course, I've often found that Jan's
Seen in Sal's instagram stories... reasonably good chance this is the
prototype based on the geo diagram from an old blahg post. I'm not sold on
the top tube yet, but like most Rivendell innovations, they take a while to
absorb for me.
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Good to hear from #RivSister Melanie!
I am sure none of of us would complain if you chose to indulge us with photos
of your new wheels on your Appaloosa. 朗
I agree that the bikes feel very different after getting these new wheels. I’m
not going to “quibble” about tubeless, but what was
Here, I got a video so you can hear the sound my new rear hub makes. It’s not coming through at full volume - it’s much louder to my ear. And I like it!
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Hi Roberta, I love my Appaloosa as well. James and Candice have helped me
lighten it up as well. I had it set up with big Nitto racks front and rear
but James recommended a better way. He also build a set of wheels for me
and I too am a tubeless convert. I haven't done the 1 x yet but I am
Seems like Analog is getting some good business! I reached out about a month
ago and have a 650b dyno wheel (not wheelset) in the works for my Crust
Evasion. My frame is the very bright sunset fade, so I asked them to throw some
subdued color in there. The loud bike doesn’t need a loud
Hi Roberta and all - I too have been "enlightened." Once Roberta said she
was going to go for it and lighten up her Appaloosa I got the courage to do
the same to mine. Analog built me some new wheels with Pacenti rims, Bitex
hubs, a SRAM 990 cassette and tubeless Gravelkings. Of course, some
Jim,
Appreciate what you do to keep the group going. We have "known" each other not
quite 25 years, but I think I sent my first entry to your cyclofiend website in
the mid 2000's. Since you own this group, your wish to keep the group insulated
from exclusively rivendell-related threads rules
One of the things I love about this group is that it is a refuge where for
the most part, only bikes and related tangents are discussed.
It bugs me when bicycle businesses (or any other, for that matter) inject
their politics into their social media presence. When I want to dive into
that
While this "quibble" may be considered something of a damp blanket, threads
go off on much greater tangents than this all the time, (and no tangent is
"necessary.") When you post you open up to a free range discussion within
proscribed boundaries, and this is in-bounds.
As Roberta and Leah and
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