On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 19:41, Martin Langhoff
> wrote:
>> Is there a better way to do this?
>
> If you go through the archives, you will find that this was discussed
> some weeks ago, I think it was Tony Forster who sta
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin
Langhoff wrote:
> We need a file manager IMHO.
Michael asks about this specific statement, as it is fairly broad.
Let's keep it in the context of "it is worth fixing bugs that mangle
filenames" so the Journal can indeed double up as a pa
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
> Actually I came along this myself the other day. I would propose to have the
> file name as the entry title and the 'downloaded from' description in the
> journal entry description field.
+1!
cheers,
martin
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Martin
Langhoff wrote:
> Rename and copy
>From the department of useful tricks...
If you want to preserve your users' ability to name a file you serve
via HTTP, eschew proper mimetypes and say with me:
Content-Type: application/x-forcedownload
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Dave Bauer wrote:
> What would the file manager be for? Who is downloading this file,
A teacher. Probably less technical than the kids.
> how often
> and what do they need to do with it? It is easy enough to download it from
> the Terminal for a technical user.
T
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
> Don't use Browse as if it was a real web browser. Don't use the
> Journal as if it was a real file system.
... and don't use Sugar as a useful Desktop or UI...?
I don't buy the argument. There are lots of things that rely on
filenames; as th
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> What's your use case?
Does "leases.sig" give you a hint? :-)
The XS can now handle antitheft services. One of the things I added is
the ability to generate a leases.sig with short-lived leases for all
the (non-stolen) machines in the scho
I am trying to get leases.sig from the XS to the USB stick. On 8.2.x,
Browse.xo saves the file as
File leases.sig from http://...
... two possible ways to move next.
Copy and rename
1 - Insert (fat-formatted) USB stick, once mounted copy the file to
the USB stick. Check on Terminal indicate
Using Browse.xo v101 on 8.2.x I cannot get Browse.xo to save a file
with the name that I am requesting.
Browse.xo seems to take the name I hint from the server (from the URL
and using an 'content-disposition: attachment, filename="leases.sig"'
header). But it renames it as
"File leases.sig down
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Caroline
Meeks wrote:
> I had a feeling that our Moodle people didn't even know this work needed to
And you were right :-)
Gregdek was pushing hard for a hacking session on integrating Journal
entries (let me call them documents for a sec ;-) ) with what's
happeni
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Caroline
Meeks wrote:
> My understanding is that both GCompris and Teachermate have teacher admin
> functionality that let teachers view student progress etc.
>
> Is there a roadmap or plan for how we are going to bring that functionality
> into our Sugar-XS world?
Hey, it talks about a School Server too :-D
(does that mean that Hamilton's patches for registration & backup made
it into SoaS?
m
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
> Reuters and Yahoo, and a number of print and TV station websites in
> the US have published from PR Newswire:
>
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> Is there any interest in figuring out how assessments might work in a
> Sugar activity API?
Couple of bits of experience from Moodle-land
- It is probably worth matching SCORM's API when looking at
"reporting back". There is also an IM
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Sean DALY wrote:
> http://gizmodo.com/5301939/sugar-on-a-stick-turns-any-netbook-into-your-very-own-olpc
>
> 100 views in the first few minutes...
The marketing team @ SL is the stuff of legends. Congrats.
(I am sure there are significant challenges in absorbing
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> This means you'd have to change both the client-side
> (sugar-update-control, fairly simple) and the server side
> (in our case Mozilla Addons, fairly complex).
The XS - which Bryan has - already has an rsync server using the bare
rsync p
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Martin
Dengler wrote:
> Reading the docs, I think that jidgo will allow the user to download
> (say) a .iso and a .img (NAND) file by downloading the files that are
> contained in them and then re-assembling the .iso and .img files?
You might need to track the iso
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation
> of SoaS XO-1 images. Those consist not only of the latest and greatest
> Sugar bits, but also a F11 base system and a special OLPC kernel based
> on 2.6.30.
Excel
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Martin
Dengler wrote:
>> It seems build engineers go to a a lot of effort to create multiple
>> ginormous downloads in .img/.usb/.iso/.bootable.gz formats when
>> they're 99% the same files laid out in different file system(s) with
>> appropriate boot, config, and
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Bobby Powers wrote:
> While not hand-tuned, I believe on the latest rawhide-xo images (and
> Fedora 11) you can download
> http://dev.laptop.org/~bobbyp/surf/Surf-106.xo
> for a WebKit based browsing experience. The packages pywebkitgtk and
> webkitgtk need to be i
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Lucian
Branescu wrote:
> I don't think I have the results anymore, but benches between
> epiphany-webkit and epiphany-gecko were very similar.
Lucian -- what Jonas and I are trying to say is: even if gecko is
(was?) by less "performant" than webkit on a standard ma
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <
l...@lkcl.net> wrote:
> (...)
> once done, you'd be able to pretty much drop the exact same olpc
> browser onto KHTML, webkit or xul. and, other than the c++
> rtti-related bugs in KHTML, you'd get exactly the same functionality.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> I guess there's some other package that installs files in those dirs,
> thus the conflict. Maybe we should check rainbow?
>
IIRC, it'd be olpc-update. Those libs should be split off...
m
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Dave Bauer wrote:
>
> This is the accurate install doc to install an XS with Moodle.
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software
>
> This is a complete linux installation so you'll need a seperate machine you
> can install onto or a virtual machine.
Good p
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Vamsi Krishna
Davuluri wrote:
> I think i've been working on the wrong moodle, I've been working
> with the default moodle installation found at moodle.org. How do I
> get everything XS-Moodle specific? A quick google search points
> me to this:
> http://docs.moodl
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Vamsi Krishna
Davuluri wrote:
> This would be through a HTTP POST
Cookie + HTTP POST to a defined URL would work well.
Apologies for not being able to help more this week.
> [23:56] daveb: if you aren't registered we will probably have to let
> the user know
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:24 PM, David Van Assche wrote:
> When it come to older pcs, it really makes sense to try and use LTSP. We
LTSP is an excellent path. Note that a happy LTSP adventure is
conditional on a good network infra and a decent TS machine. Wireless
won't do.
Sound and video used to
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Sascha
Silbe wrote:
> I've examined memory usage of long running processes (i.e. daemons and
> applications) in the past, no problems.
If in the past you've used top, there's a new and more accurate way of
measuring memory usage. Recent kernels export the 'smaps' of
2009/6/5 NoiseEHC :
> Have you tried it on an XO? I just had this "experience". Seems to me
> that we will not do animation with js ever...
Well, I don't think the js in that game is optimised at all. Very
jerky on my mid-range (non-XO) laptop.
There's lots of nice tricks you can do when scriptin
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Caroline Meeks
wrote:
> We are working on making software update (both activities and underlying OS)
> work for Sugar on a Stick and we aren't that clear on what the vision, spec
> and state of code is for software update on the XO.
Right -- it is a major considera
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Mihai Sucan wrote:
>> - which version(s) of Sugar targets your project?
>
> I am not intimate with the development cycle and work-flow of the OLPC XO.
> I learned sufficiently to see it's Fedora Core-based, and that Sugar is
> becoming distro agnostic.
>
> Thus, my
2009/5/29 Lucian Branescu :
> I think they're just a bit slow. They would break existing Gears
> applications if they relied on the mozilla stuff without at least a
> wrapper.
Maybe modern GG applications have such wrapper?
m
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM, wrote:
> if you're root, use the force:
you are truly evil :-)
m
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- ask interesting questions
- don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first
- http://wiki.laptop.org/
2009/5/28 Martin Langhoff :
> 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu :
>> Not really. HTML 5 only brings an SQLite database accessible from JavaScript.
>>
>> Gears has other features that aren't present in Gecko proper (yet):
>> - LocalServer - a way to transparently persist
2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu :
> Not really. HTML 5 only brings an SQLite database accessible from JavaScript.
>
> Gears has other features that aren't present in Gecko proper (yet):
> - LocalServer - a way to transparently persist resources locally
I thought HTML5 had some "offline resource" facilit
2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu :
> For both Webified and Karma, Gears support in Browse is necessary (or
> at least preferred), but AFAIK there is currently no strategy to get
> it running.
If I understand correctly, the 'HTML5' extensions push means that the
core gecko gets facilities that look almost
I'm working on olpc-update-query, a script that runs without a tty
(from NM hooks and cron) and needs to query Sugar configuration stuff.
To make things more complicated, it runs as root :-/
It's a good thing that we have sugar-control-panel, but at least on
0.82 it doesn't work unless you're in T
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
> Submitters: Please go through all the open bugs you have submitted. If
BTW, if there's any guidance for the test team in Bxl on how to tag
the bugs found against latest SoaS, we'll be happy to follow...
This search shows most (all?) the
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> Openbox, the window manager used by LXDE and other desktops, is only
> slightly cheaper: 7.5MB RSS.
>
> IMHO, not worth the pain of being out of the mainstream.
matchbox, according to ps_mem.py is 2.5MiB (private) + 430.5
MiB(shared) wit
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> The only thing I didn't like very much is memory usage: 21MB VIRT, 10MB
> RSS. But I suppose we can't do much about it.
Ugh. That's a ton for a wm :-( Are there alternatives that "fit" better?
m
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> That surprises me. At the beginning, we depended on several features
> that weren't yet released by the upstream projects. But as of today,
> most of it should be released (if not packaged).
+1
> I think that what people are asking is for si
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> Yeah, we made easy deleting activities, including Browse, because we
> thought we had made easy enough to update them.
Yes. And also, because it's very easy to install new activities.
People patching Sugar to remove 'erase' are changing one p
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> My 102 is the Browse-101-for-8.2 that was announced 1-2 months ago,
> plus the fix for the ticket that I mentioned. So it should have all
> the other relevant patches and fixes, unless something was silently
> added since initial release.
Coo
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote:
> The G1G1 set of activities (1) on wiki.laptop.org was updated to include
> Browse-102, I believe at the time the composite image was created for
> 8.2.1. This version does appear to work on 8.2.1 and has your auto-login
> magic working with
Simon (aka erikos) has just uploaded Browse-101.xo to
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4024#version-101
This is the currently recommended Browse for XOs running 8.2.x wanting
to interoperate with the upcoming XS 0.6 . This version was previously
available but hard to fin
(written as part of the brussels test session)
One thing consistent across the machines we're testing with Soas is
that many (most?) of them get very low sound levels. This is an issue
with Fedora and Pulseaudio.
The fedora devel list is aflame with discussion about this, and it
appears that -- b
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> o XS school server (but I have not fully configured it and tested it with XOs)
Not sure how the strange expectations on networking gear the XS has
will play on the VM. But I can recommend:
- using the experimental 0.6 "img" files, which
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:53 PM, David Van Assche wrote:
> Talking about moodle, we really should decide what to enable on the
Not only stop scaring people, but provide content about Sugar + sample
content for deployments, so there's a reason to use it. (How to
complement the wiki and avoid overl
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
wrote:
> Martin Langhoff, are you around ?
Sure. I recommend searching the list archive for
de...@lists.laptop.org and server-de...@l.l.o for an excellent
discussion on 'narratives' a while ago, and for 'group managem
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote:
> Since you grant my premise, the corollary is that it wouldn't hurt to have
> mono installed. See here about the mono footprint on disk and in memory.
That's so simplified that is stupid. Let's avoid such simplifications here.
I'll in
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote:
> Martin, the last disk we bought, a few days ago, was $100 and half a
> terabyte. I understand that you are trying to fit the XS into the
> preexisting XO hardware, but realistically it is unlikely to be a
> configuration a real school
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> - I am intrigued, hulahop sources say it's hardcoded to 200dpi (and
> that jives with our screen) - why does it end up being 134? Should it
> be 200dpi? Would that hit the fast paths properly? (Mihai: does 200dpi
> mak
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:52 PM, torello wrote:
> the fuse module is published.
> You can find it here:
> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/fsgateway/repos/mainline
Surprise! It's written in Mono!
I was wondering about whether I could use it on the XS to replace my
PHP implementation of the DS
Hi OLPCistas, Sugaristas,
Mihai (GSoC participant on the Moodle side of things) has been
experimenting with Browse.xo and the performance of its canvas
implementation.
Out of the box, it is awfully slow (while other aspects of Browse are
fairly optimised).
He tells the story here, including perf
We had a great gathering at home, with some great testers. Today,
after several tries, we finally got all the ingredients (laptops,
wifi, food, comfy location etc). Huge thanks to Giulia for a fantastic
pasta for dinner.
Here's a quick summary, and bug numbers:
• Turtleart works well! (numpy erro
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Andrés Ambrois wrote:
> if [ -z `grep "%!PS-Adobe-3.0" < "$fn2"` ]; then
Even better, you can use the exit code of grep, thus
if grep -q 'pattern' $file; then
elegant, clearer and faster :-)
Some grep implementations don't support -q, so a more portable way
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
> La Ruche
> 84 quai de Jemmapes
> 75010 Paris
> Tél.:+33 (0)1 48 03 92 00
> http://www.la-ruche.net
Hmmm. I am a bit lost. Where will the camp be? I thought OLPC-France
or someone else there was offering rooms Sat/Sun and maybe even Fri.
cheers,
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Hamilton Chua wrote:
> Good news. I had a chance to test it today and it looks like the
> Moodle UI is picking up on the back ups now.
>
> I'll be doing a couple of tests over the course of the next few days.
> I'll be sure to let you know if we encounter problems.
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Bill Kerr wrote:
> I'm not sure what is meant by a "big tent"
Personally, I am building tools so...
...
> when I look at minsky's theory of mind I see that he supports multiple
> models of thinking but also argues against models of thinking that he thinks
> are in
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
wrote:
> People interested in $SUBJECT may enjoy
>
> http://almaer.com/blog/who-do-i-trust-with-my-identity-erm-how-about-me-openid-weaves-into-the-browser
>
> I haven't quite figured out what they're doing.
Makes sense -- it is the step that p
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> Is it clearer now?
yes - thanks!
>> And while we're at it - is 'preview' completely gone?
>
> Check out that page, preview is a metadata property like the others.
So metadata stores binary files too? I thought it was meant to hold
straight
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Frederick Grose wrote:
> (metadata is data).
Snarky but true comment: if/when that's the case, put the data in the
data part. For example, the new Browse does store valuable data
(unlike before) and does put it in the data. So the entries for
Browse.xo (of the 0.84
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> Let's keep this on the list. Is that from a recent SoaS? The datastore
> storage format has changed then, and we need to add support to Moodle
> for it.
>
> More work! :-p
Done - not tested much -- the zipfile you
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Sascha Silbe
wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:48:26PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>
>> looking at the new DS as implemented in SoaS. To confirm, is this
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Datastore_Rewrite what
>> is impl
heers,
m
-- Forwarded message ------
From: Martin Langhoff
Date: Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Server-devel] backup : problem opening
/library/users//datastore-x/store
To: Hamilton Chua , XS Devel
Hi Hamilton,
Let's keep this on the list. Is that from a r
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
> Fair enough. I agree that *most* people on the list agree that there
> is not just one right way. And to use a metaphor that has been
> oft-spoken in the US news of late, Sugar Labs has to have a "big
> tent."
>
> Sugar itself has affordances
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> That sounds like a printer that students aren't allowed to use.
Correct! But may be used seldom, as a special case, prize, etc. And
teachers _are_ allowed to print -- while there's a good chance, the
computers there are all or amost all XOs
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:29 PM, David Farning wrote:
> Ahh, sorry I misunderstood. Activities.sugarlabs.org does support
> multiple concurrent versions of an activity. This is how amo updates
> addons for the various versions of Firefox. I don't clearly
> understand how the system works. But i
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Frederick Grose wrote:
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Browse would be the place to add
> improvements.
If you go to sugarlabs.org -> activities, search for 'browse', you
land in http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4024 which
shows Browse 10
Hi Simon, Sugaristas,
Dave Bauer was asking where could he find recent Browse.xo releases,
and I did a bit of browsing and googling, and couldn't find it.
Searching my gmail inbox worked, but this isn't very generalisable.
- sugarlabs' list archive is not indexed by google?
- activities downloa
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> It's normal that people think "SugarLabs is shipping Soas and it
> doesn't work on the XO, are they abandoning their only user base?".
>
> I think we should be more careful in thinking where we spend the
> resources or we won't be able to foc
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
wrote:
> I think this is too much for one Summer of Code project. That's why I
> have been recommending that we forget about local printing for now.
>
> Anyway, on a purely technical level I think we have reached agreement. (I
> do wonder whe
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Martin Dengler
wrote:
> Of course. That's why I'm asking these questions, since we know SL
> doesn't want to become a distro generator, but we're getting questions
> that push us in those directions.
I didn't know SL was trying to avoid that role. But there is _
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Martin Dengler
wrote:
> Sebastian and I had a discussion about SoaS builds being used on XOs.
Very interesting and timely discussion. The notes that follow are my
(hopefully well informed) opinion only. No employers were involved or
harmed in the writing of this
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Martin Dengler
wrote:
> Imagine if it actually looked like the demo:
> http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=gallery&page=media_01
Exactly my thoughts. There are a couple of things we have to be
mindful of as we step into the wild 3D world...
- memory foot
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:46 AM, wrote:
> I believe this is exactly what has been done over the last few years in the
> DNS server/DNS cache software. they used to accept extra responses like you
> are trying to make, but nowdays they don't.
As everyone pointed out, I was wrong about plain clien
2009/4/22 Iñaki Arenaza :
> I'm afraid that's not always true. Running Debian Lenny here without
Paul, Iñaki, -- you guys are right.
It also means that there's no point worrying about pushing extra
records in the DNS responses.
> I've used tcpdump to dump DNS traffic while running 'ping -n
I bo
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:05 AM, wrote:
> my initial reaction to this is that it's going to look to the client exactly
> the same as a bad guy trying to poison DNS by sending unasked for responses,
> how do the clients tell the difference?
They can't. That's how DNS works. Lots of ink have flowe
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Dave Bauer wrote:
> I poked around in git on dev.laptop.org and found this
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/ds-backup.git/tree/client
>
> It looks like the code is from last October. Are these the files I am
> looking for?
Looks about right, but get the
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Here's my understanding:
I've read the damned specs, don't worry. I need help getting sh*t done
because there's a lot of stuff to do.
any takers?
m
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- ask in
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> I don't understand your question. Sounds like prefetching that isn't
> part of dns (id you perhaps think of DHCP here?)
I don't have my well-worn "DNS and BIND" book with me right now but I
am positive that the server side can decide to
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Dave Bauer wrote:
> Forwarded from sugar-devel, Are the backup scripts available? We have a
> script that allows us to register SoaS and we want to try the backup scripts
> with that.
Grab them from the same place where you found the ejabberd pkg ;-) --
you're loo
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> DNS-SD using unicast DNS seems reasonable to me too.
If we can do without the avahi gunk, and use it in a way that is not
optimised for user driven browsing but for automated selection of
services, then it might work.
> Looking closer at
(Cross posted to the Sugar list, I am hoping to discuss this stuff
with the Sugar folks in Paris as well.)
I've reviewed the XS 0.6 / 0.7 development plans, and one area that I
have to address is service discovery: how does an XO figure out
cheaply (in network & RF terms) what services are availab
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> If you plan to do that
And making sure that the server is running ejabberd-2.0.3 with the
latest round of my xs patches -- the one included on XS-0.5.2
m
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On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Caroline Meeks wrote:
> Sean, how are you doing in terms of connecting to the jabber server via
> jabber.sugarlabs.org?
>
> If you want to do a big collaboration session and exercise sharing some let
> us know when you are going to do it and we'll monitor the serve
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> Machines tested
>
> - Dell Vostro 1500
And here's the lspci of the Dell Vostro -- thanks Bert:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory
Controller Hub (rev 0c)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp
Yesterday we had the 2nd meeting in Brussels -- this time at a Swedish
trade representation office, thanks to our kind hosts for the place
and connectivity.
The first meeting was mainly social, a bit of getting to know people
and going through the 1hr smoketest on XOs running 8.2.1 -- a good
first
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Jameson Quinn wrote:
> Thanks, I'm forwarding this to sugar-devel.
>
> To respond: This gives me an idea of the student view. What about the
> teacher view? Can the teacher view multiple responses, or a random response,
> in real time? Is there some way to let (so
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Geza Kovacs wrote:
> According to http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/wrapper.jsp?arnumber=4292735
> then the slowest transmission speed, Mode1 (6 Mbps) is only beneficial
> for multicasting over very large distances; in the case of the AWGN
I am sure they did their
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Geza Kovacs wrote:
> Assuming I'm using Farsight2 to broadcast MJPEG video over multicast UDP,
As I've posted earlier, for multicast frames you'll see the AP
switching to the slowest transmission speed to increase the chances
that all the nodes will get the frame
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
wrote:
> I'm not aware of any problems using UDP broadcast on 802.11abg. Could you
> elaborate?
Broadcast frames will be sent at the lowest speed -- IIRC, ot should
be the lowest common speed supported by all associated nodes, but the
experime
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
> Agreed... which is why the correct solution is to use link-layer
> broadcast/multicast. That way, the bandwidth usage is independent of the
> number of users, and only a single stream must be transmitted. Farsight2
> already supports link-lay
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:37 PM, David Farning wrote:
> Maybe with a little thinking up front it would be easier to see how
All of that has nothing to do with me, David.
And I am an experienced gsoc mentor. And that bit... includes
sometimes saying: sorry, but there is a big black hole in the mid
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM, David Farning wrote:
> Then don't be! OLPC has spent years arguing about how various
> solution will _not_ work. How about giving the students a chance to
> test their theories and develop an implementation.
David -- the proposal did _not_ have a theory of how it
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Geza Kovacs wrote:
> True, network saturation would become an issue if all those 50 laptops
> were tuned into a stream. However, if such is the case,
exactly -- factor network saturation into your plans, as you say:
- provide UIs to manage and monitor how many pe
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Geza Kovacs wrote:
> the local Icecast streaming server over HTTP. Surely you must agree that
> that is possible?
And very *quickly* saturate the available bandwidth :-/
Our deployment scenarios have lots of laptops. Groups of 20, 30 or
even 50 kids per classroom.
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
> 2. Telepathy does not currently support multi-point conferences.
> Collabora is working on it, but from what I hear it's not likely to be
> ready by June.
Add the fact that the PHY of the assumed network (for XOs and
netbooks) is _wireless_.
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> The design team at OLPC (most of it are active contributors at SLs)
> had thought quite a bit about how to expose it to the user and we even
A couple of things I'd like people to note as central to the design
- it has to be simple and natur
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> I like calling it just "school". I believe "school" is metaphorically
> exactly what you describe as "neighborhood", Caroline: The nearby
> location where learning experiences most often takes place.
My position is exactly what Jonas descr
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> Yes, but it's still a misnomer. Nothing about this server ties it to a
...
> "Sugar server"? "Mothership molasses"?
If we call it "school" and work on that as a loose metaphor -- as we
do with "online whiteboards" and "online chat", I think i
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