Re: Hemicyclium correction - a figure might be needed

2017-10-28 Thread Michael Ossipoff
I can't find an image on the internet, of a Circumference-Aperture Cylinder-Equatorial dial, but I'm going to post a drawing of one. By the way, I use a broad definition of Equatorial Dial. Instead of only dials with a dial-face parallel to the equator, I include all dials that directly measure th

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-25 Thread Michael Ossipoff
during the a.m. hours, or the number of hours from 6 p.m., during the p.m. hours." ...which could also be said as: " 15 degrees times (6 minus the number of hours from 12 noon)". ...for the hours from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. Michael Ossipoff On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Michael Ossipo

Re: Hemicyclium correction - a figure might be needed

2017-10-24 Thread Michael Ossipoff
gt; *Sent: *Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:32 AM > *To: *Brad Thayer > *Cc: *sundial list > *Subject: *Re: Hemicyclium correction > > > > > > In the Hemicyclium discussion, the OP mentioned having 6-inch copper > tubing. So, though it was a bit off-topic, I suggested that the

Re: Hemicyclium correction - a figure might be needed

2017-10-24 Thread Michael Ossipoff
hem more clear to a > general public. Could you please support your ideas with a figure or a link > to an external one (if exists)? > > > > Best regards, > > Wojtek > > > > *From: *Michael Ossipoff > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:32 AM > *To: *Bra

Re: Hemicyclium correction - a figure might be needed

2017-10-24 Thread Michael Ossipoff
> > Best regards, > > Wojtek > > > > *From: *Michael Ossipoff > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:32 AM > *To: *Brad Thayer > *Cc: *sundial list > *Subject: *Re: Hemicyclium correction > > > > > > In the Hemicyclium discussion, the OP mentioned h

RE: Hemicyclium correction - a figure might be needed

2017-10-24 Thread wsgalinski
, 2017 1:32 AM To: Brad Thayer Cc: sundial list Subject: Re: Hemicyclium correction In the Hemicyclium discussion, the OP mentioned having 6-inch copper tubing. So, though it was a bit off-topic, I suggested that the tubing could be used for an additional, quicker, project, to make a south

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-23 Thread Michael Ossipoff
In the Hemicyclium discussion, the OP mentioned having 6-inch copper tubing. So, though it was a bit off-topic, I suggested that the tubing could be used for an additional, quicker, project, to make a south windowsill sundial--a Circumference-Aprerture Cylindrical Equatorial Dial. But, when I

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-23 Thread Dan-George Uza
I find the video below extremely instructive! https://youtu.be/0hs6QqwJIhs The sundial is marked in old temporary (or seasonal) hours. Changing them to modern hours does not make much sense to me. For it to become a hemicyclium I guess you just have to leave out the unused part of the half

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-23 Thread Maes, F.W.
> *From:* Patrick Powers > *Sent:* Sunday, October 22, 2017 12:40 PM > *To:* Brad Thayer ; sundial@uni-koeln.de > *Subject:* Re: Hemicyclium correction > > Hi Brad > > Further to your interest in an hemicyclium you might like to know of this > link to the former webpage

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-22 Thread Patrick Powers
today. My sincere apologies to Frans! Patrick From: Patrick Powers Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 12:40 PM To: Brad Thayer ; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Hemicyclium correction Hi Brad Further to your interest in an hemicyclium you might like to know of this link to the former webpages

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-22 Thread Patrick Powers
Hi Brad Further to your interest in an hemicyclium you might like to know of this link to the former webpages of the late Frans Maes who set out his instructions for “Construction of Hemispherium” some time ago and which is based on several earlier documents – all referenced. You might find

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-19 Thread Michael Ossipoff
g/sinking and chasing metal forming class, I was interested in making >> a bowl with chased lines (aka, repousse) for practice, hence the idea for >> the hemicyclium. >> >> >> >> I lucked into some used 14 gauge copper tubing about 6 inches in >> diameter, w

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-19 Thread Michael Ossipoff
ines (aka, repousse) for practice, hence the idea for > the hemicyclium. > > > > I lucked into some used 14 gauge copper tubing about 6 inches in diameter, > which I annealed, cut open and pounded flat as a starting point. So I have > the basic starting materials. > > > >

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-19 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Brad-- I don't know if this is of interest or not, because I realize that the Hemicyclium is your main project. If you have any of that 6-inch diameter copper tubing left, then why not cut off a section of it, with width equal to half the diameter, for an additional project that can be comp

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-19 Thread Michael Ossipoff
dd... > > > And if I do tilt the hemispherium > > so that the horizon line is now > > instead parallel to the earth's > > axis, does that solve any of the > > issues? > > This is like taking an aircraft as > your inspiration for designing a > car a

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-19 Thread Frank King
pherium > so that the horizon line is now > instead parallel to the earth's > axis, does that solve any of the > issues? This is like taking an aircraft as your inspiration for designing a car and not appreciating what the wings are for. The absolutely key feature of the hemicycli

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-18 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Brad-- > > If the inside surface is marked with the lines analogous to lines of > longitude on a globe spaced 15 degrees apart, radiating from the “pole” of > the hemicyclium, and the entire device is tilted to align with the earth’s > axis, would it then read out in Local

RE: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-18 Thread Brad Thayer
, repousse) for practice, hence the idea for the hemicyclium. I lucked into some used 14 gauge copper tubing about 6 inches in diameter, which I annealed, cut open and pounded flat as a starting point. So I have the basic starting materials. If the inside surface is marked with the lines

RE: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-18 Thread Brad Thayer
instead parallel to the earth's axis, does that solve any of the issues? -Original Message- From: Frank King [mailto:f...@cl.cam.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 11:12 AM To: Brad Thayer Cc: sundial@uni-koeln.de; Frank King Subject: Re: Hemicyclium correction Dear Brad, You say:

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-18 Thread Michael Ossipoff
a two-sided Disk-Equatorial is incomparably easier to construct >> than a Band-Equatorial or Cylinder-Equatorial. ...if you don't mind the >> fact that a Disk-Equatorial can only be read from the north in the summer, >> and from the south in the winter. >> >> Mi

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-17 Thread Michael Ossipoff
orth in the summer, and from the south in the winter. Michael Ossipoff On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Brad Thayer wrote: > I am looking to make a hemicyclium-type sundial (half-hemisphere) in a > metal working class. What little I can find on them says they are > inaccurate, without

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-17 Thread Michael Ossipoff
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Brad Thayer wrote: > I am looking to make a hemicyclium-type sundial (half-hemisphere) in a > metal working class. What little I can find on them says they are > inaccurate, without being very clear on the problem. > But the way, I'v

Re: Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-16 Thread Frank King
Dear Brad, You say: > I am looking to make a > hemicyclium-type sundial > (half-hemisphere) in a > metal working class. > Am I missing anything? Er, yes. Rather a lot alas... Before you start bashing metal it may be worth spending rather less effort on a prototype.

Hemicyclium correction

2017-10-16 Thread Brad Thayer
I am looking to make a hemicyclium-type sundial (half-hemisphere) in a metal working class. What little I can find on them says they are inaccurate, without being very clear on the problem. It appears to me the only issue is it needs to be tilted so that the gnomon aligns with the Earth&#

Re: Hemicyclium dials

2010-10-26 Thread Warren Thom
http://www.collsemolen.dse.nl Eindhoven, Netherlands lat. 51:30 N long. 5:30 E - Original Message - From: Phil Walker To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Hemicyclium dials Hi diallers, I am considering a model cube dial with E. S and W

Re: Hemicyclium dials

2010-10-26 Thread fer de vries
long. 5:30 E - Original Message - From: Phil Walker To: sund...@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Hemicyclium dials Hi diallers, I am considering a model cube dial with E. S and W faces, each with a concave hemisphere on it. It

Re: Hemicyclium dials

2010-10-26 Thread david
e a pin gnomon with a ball nodus at > the end, at the centre of the hemisphere. I understand that this is based > in the Greek" hemicyclium" but there.are a few 16th century cube dials of > this type in England and Scotland. > I've two questions, > What are th

Hemicyclium dials

2010-10-26 Thread Phil Walker
Hi diallers, I am considering a model cube dial with E. S and W faces, each with a concave hemisphere on it. It would have a pin gnomon with a ball nodus at the end, at the centre of the hemisphere. I understand that this is based in the Greek" hemicyclium" but there.are a few 16

Re: Hemicyclium

2002-08-09 Thread Alexei Pace
It's http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/ actually. Thanks - I now understand ;) Descriptions of both can be found in the BSS Glossary, under "Dial (types of") at www.britishsundialsociety.org.uk.

Hemicyclium

2002-08-09 Thread john . davis
Hi Alexei et al, You asked: > on another topic, what is the difference between a hemispherium and a > hemicyclium? Descriptions of both can be found in the BSS Glossary, under "Dial (types of") at www.britishsundialsociety.org.uk. Regards, John ---

hemicyclium at cleopatra's needle

2002-06-25 Thread Patrick Powers
dria, founded by Alexander the Great some three hundred years before. The hemicyclium in question was unearthed at the base of Cleopatra's Needle there; the numeral style indicates it was there after Alexander (about 332 B.C.). This artifact now resides in the British Museum.' In sh

hemicyclium at cleopatra's needle

2002-06-25 Thread ronit maoz
ndria, founded by Alexander the Great some three hundred years before. The hemicyclium in question was unearthed at the base of Cleopatraís Needle there; the numeral style indicates it was there after Alexander (about 332 B.C.). This artifact now resides in the British Museum.'   In s