Re: [biofuel] Bio-weapon..?!?

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Paul >I heard from a small producer that it is actually "illegal" to mix the >lye and methanol as you technically get a bio-weapon... >Sodium-Meth-hydroxide. Sodium methoxide. Or potassium methoxide. >They noted it was apparently used in WW1 as a >low end chemical weapon. Maybe a chemica

[biofuel] Bio-weapon..?!?

2003-11-18 Thread Paul B.Schmidt
I heard from a small producer that it is actually "illegal" to mix the lye and methanol as you technically get a bio-weapon... Sodium-Meth-hydroxide. They noted it was apparently used in WW1 as a low end chemical weapon. Anybody heard that or worried about this? THE MAN gonna come down and

RE: [biofuel] GE Biodiesel

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Bryan I'm sorry you didn't get a more constructive response to this question. >I understand corporate agriculture's abuse of GE technology as well as >the dangers of engineered microorganisms. Since I'm neither a biologist >nor a chemist, I thought I'd solicit opinions from those in the g

Re: [biofuel] Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors

2003-11-18 Thread Appal Energy
Randal, Well, since you asked..., Relative to http://www.biodieselgear.com/equipment/catalog.htm Save your money. Their "Mini?" $900 cost for $350 in parts. Anyone that can't thread and glue a few plastic pipes together for themselves shouldn't be trying to make biodiesel in the first place.

Re: [biofuel] New catalysis/methanol

2003-11-18 Thread Greg and April
Some do, but lately, I have heard that they are working on ones that spontaneously detonate, once they reach the proper fuel/air ratio for combustion. The reason they are going this route is they have had problems in the past with the delayed action types because it may take a longer or shorte

Re: [biofuel] New catalysis/methanol

2003-11-18 Thread Walt Patrick
At 10:14 AM 11/18/03 -0700, you wrote: >Ethylene Oxide? Isn't that the stuff they used in fuel air bombs, because >it has a tendency to spontaneously ignite when it reached the proper >fuel/air ratio for combustion? > >Greg H. Sort of. As I recall, it's not that an air/EO m

[biofuel] The Making of the Corporate Judiciary

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/11/ma_564_01.html The Making of the Corporate Judiciary How big business is quietly funding a judicial revolution in the nation's courts By Michael Scherer November/December 2003 Issue * Community Rights Council * People for the American Way * Tex

[biofuel] Challenging Corporate "Rights"

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.rachel.org/bulletin/index.cfm?issue_ID=2403 Challenging Corporate "Rights" (Published November 13, 2003) This week we introduce Mike Ferner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and some new ideas about challenging corporate rights. Mike served two terms as an independent member of the Toledo, Ohi

[biofuel] Re: chiming in on one-tank kits

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:13:40 +0900 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [vegoil-diesel] chiming in on one-tank kits > >Did the glow plugs burn out on your own conversion Capra? Last I >heard from Jim Burke he hadn't had any such problems with his >Els

[biofuels-biz] Re: chiming in on one-tank kits

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:13:40 +0900 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [vegoil-diesel] chiming in on one-tank kits > >Did the glow plugs burn out on your own conversion Capra? Last I >heard from Jim Burke he hadn't had any such problems with his >Els

[biofuel] Fwd: nbb governing board pro GMO

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
>From: "johanna schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Burnveggies] nbb governing board pro GMO >Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:20:10 -0800 > >anyone who saw the press release about the new governing board of >the national biodiesel board can obviously se

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: nbb governing board pro GMO

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
>From: "johanna schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Burnveggies] nbb governing board pro GMO >Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:20:10 -0800 > >anyone who saw the press release about the new governing board of >the national biodiesel board can obviously se

[biofuel] Re: New catalysis/methanol

2003-11-18 Thread mblakenc2003
Probably, we kept it under 40 lbs nitrogen gas so it wouldn't explode. It's Health-Fire-Safety rating was 4-4-4 (bad-bad-bad), it is a teratogen and mutagen. Was great stuff to work with. I had to use a 100 lb forced air mask, wear 2-3 layers of gloves (space gloves were these silver plasti

[biofuel] Response to Energy Bill / Hydrogen Energy Teleconference

2003-11-18 Thread Ryan Walker
EMS Update - Nov. 18, 2003 Response to the Energy Bill... Nov 18 American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy: "Conference Energy Bill: The Glass Is Not Even A Quarter Full" http://www.em s.org/rls/2003/11/18/conference_energ.html

[biofuels-biz] Response to Energy Bill / Hydrogen Energy Teleconference

2003-11-18 Thread Ryan Walker
EMS Update - Nov. 18, 2003 Response to the Energy Bill... Nov 18 American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy: "Conference Energy Bill: The Glass Is Not Even A Quarter Full" http://www.em s.org/rls/2003/11/18/conference_energ.html

Re: [biofuel] Microturbines vs fuel cells

2003-11-18 Thread Greg and April
Here is some information on turbines used in cars, including the use of a rotating regenerator, a device that transfers heat from the exhaust gases to the air about to enter the combustion chambers. This is done to improve the engine's fuel-efficiency and to reduce the noise and heat levels rel

Re: [biofuel] New catalysis

2003-11-18 Thread Ken Provost
On Monday, November 17, 2003, at 01:39 PM, mblakenc2003 wrote: > > Is anyone on the list looking into post-WW II chemistry as a method > for producing biofuels? I found one article on zeolites, but that > was it. A lot of money is being spent on scaling the reaction up, > but I don't see too

[biofuel] Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors

2003-11-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Randall >Sure, here are the websites: > >http://www.biodieselgear.com/equipment/catalog.htm There are some comments about these processors here: http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/BIOFUELS-BIZ/1146/ http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/biofuels-biz/1156/1 http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/B

Re: [biofuel] New catalysis/methanol

2003-11-18 Thread Greg and April
Ethylene Oxide? Isn't that the stuff they used in fuel air bombs, because it has a tendency to spontaneously ignite when it reached the proper fuel/air ratio for combustion? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Walt Patrick To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17

Re: [biofuel] Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors

2003-11-18 Thread Aaron F. Wieler
these were my thoughts exactly. i'm glad you had a similar assessment of this site. but it's good to know who's trying to sell what to who. -aaron On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Appal Energy wrote: > Aaron and all, > > I'm certainly aware that many might see my comments as a bit rough edged, > but IMNSHO

[biofuel] single tank systems

2003-11-18 Thread Edward Mendoza
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[biofuel] Re: New catalysis/methanol

2003-11-18 Thread mblakenc2003
Good to know someone out there is doing some good science. Anyone working on the alcoholysis/transesterification step? Also, another thing that we did to meet product specifications was "blend and send". Making alot of base material the quick and dirty way, and blending in some super high gr

Re: [biofuel] Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors

2003-11-18 Thread Appal Energy
Aaron and all, I'm certainly aware that many might see my comments as a bit rough edged, but IMNSHO www.biodieselmaker.com is virtually of little to no value or advantage to someone who wishes to make their own biodiesel, whether it be for private or shared use. 1) You don't get even the first a

[biofuel] Zap EV

2003-11-18 Thread Tricia Liu
Correction: Zap Electric Vehicles, his email should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can find this new EV at Las Vegas CES Show, 1/8-11/2004! Or ask them for other shows that closest to your location > 2.Zap New Electric Car Contact: Mr. Steven M.Schneider(Chief Executive Officer), email: [EMA

Re: [biofuel] Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors

2003-11-18 Thread Aaron F. Wieler
another biodiesel kit is at http://www.biodieselmaker.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?cart_id=6014950.7580&product=Processor_Kits there's not a lot of information about the kit ($6500, or $10,000 pre-assembled (USD!)), but this might be of interest. funny how they include 55 gallons of methanol a