Hi,
On 25.10.2017 08:09, Златовратский Павел wrote:
> Well. That's the problem in your position: you point to specific
> problems and ask to stop whole process.
Which "process" exactly are you talking about? There have been many
processes mentioned in this discussion.
> I met such behaviour with
Hi,
On 25.10.2017 08:22, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> Yuri later tried to change the whole theme from "osm-wikidata-sql
> tool" to "new general qa tool" in the same thread.
And now into "is local knowledge really always necessary". I'm sure
before too long Yuri will be starting to discuss whether what
Hi,
On 25.10.2017 05:53, Ryszard Mikke wrote:
> You mean "stop any editing,
More like "stop any Wikidata-related large-scale editing or setting up
of tools that have the intent of causing Wikidata-related large-scale
editing".
It's totally ok for individuals to add Wikidata links to things they
2017-10-25 8:56 GMT+03:00 Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> Roland, thanks for the links. Local knowledge is very important, but lets
> not make it into a sacred cow at the cost of common sense. I have not been
> to every single street in New York City. I am nearly 100% sure that all
> editors has edited ob
25.10.2017 7:46, Tomas Straupis пишет:
But this topic has already listed numerous problems with your
automated (or semiautomated) edits all around, ignoring local
communities etc. You have been asked to stop numerous times.
Well. That's the problem in your position: you point to specific
pr
Roland, thanks for the links. Local knowledge is very important, but lets
not make it into a sacred cow at the cost of common sense. I have not been
to every single street in New York City. I am nearly 100% sure that all
editors has edited objects that were near their location, but that they
have
On 2017-10-25 07:31, Daniel Koć wrote:
W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze:
See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins
Why is this page named "Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users"? Can we just move
it to "Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users"
I think this is to contrast our rules with their - quite different - rules.
But maybe you're right. Obviously in the old times much of our users were
Wikipedians.
Michał
25.10.2017 07:36 "Daniel Koć" napisał(a):
> W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze:
>
>> See https://wiki.openstree
W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze:
See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins
Why is this page named "Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users"? Can we just move it
to "Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users" or there are some not obvious
problem
But what you are saying is very strange if I
understood you correctly. What I read here is that the only people
allowed to fix things are those that know ALL tags and their meaning.
See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins
Or similar s
2017-10-25 6:53 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote:
> You mean "stop any editing, cause we need two weeks or two years to make
> sure refs are correct and we don't have any other means to remember about
> the problem than to leave some obvious mistake everyone will trip over until
> we are sure about th
On 24 October 2017 at 17:19, Tomas Straupis wrote:
> 2017-10-24 15:56 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote:
> > Why, in this case is it better to have Wikipedia links in OSM point to
> > disambiguation page instead of link Hillfort 1 in OSM to Hillfort 1 in
> > Wikipedia, link Hillfort 2 accordingly and
On 24/10/2017 18:07, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Tomas Straupis
mailto:tomasstrau...@gmail.com>> wrote:
2017-10-24 15:56 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote:
> Why, in this case is it better to have Wikipedia links in OSM
point to
> disambiguation page inst
Ryszard, I have disabled the fixing from the "embed" mode - you can still
open the query (using "edit query"), click the "run" button (blue play
button), and fix things from there.
In my spare time, I am still working on the next version, based on all the
useful feedback:
* It will be easy to find
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Tomas Straupis
wrote:
> 2017-10-24 15:56 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote:
> > Why, in this case is it better to have Wikipedia links in OSM point to
> > disambiguation page instead of link Hillfort 1 in OSM to Hillfort 1 in
> > Wikipedia, link Hillfort 2 accordingl
W dniu 23.10.2017 o 22:06, Andy Townsend pisze:
On 22/10/2017 18:47, Carlos Cámara wrote:
I would like to create a custom map for online use that loads OSM
data but displays it in different ways as the standard, cyclemap,
transport... layers.
The most important question is: how do you want it
2017-10-24 15:56 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote:
> Why, in this case is it better to have Wikipedia links in OSM point to
> disambiguation page instead of link Hillfort 1 in OSM to Hillfort 1 in
> Wikipedia, link Hillfort 2 accordingly and fix Wikipedia doubts in
> Wikipedia?
So that the case is
Please, PLEASE, stick to the case.
The case is:
1) there are two hillforts, let's call them Hillfort 1 and Hillfort 2 for
simplicity.
2) both have big information tables on the ground, with their names on them
3) so they are named Hillfort 1 and Hillfort 2 in OSM and nobody objects
that.
4) both h
On Monday 23 October 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> [...]
>
> What would be *your* words to say "Hey everybody, I saw this, and I
> think it is bad and needs to change"? What choice of language would
> adequately express your being upset about what you have seen, without
> being denounced as a poison
Even without disabling - what a better tool fixes, JOSM's autofix won't
find...
On 17 October 2017 at 09:50, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> Well, you kind of can fix one with the other - by introducing a better
> tool and disabling some of the autofixes in JOSM (very easy to do). A more
> complex appr
As a European who is frequently annoyed with both the harshness of some
Europeans, as well as the oversensitiveness for criticism from Americans, I
agree with both Frederik and Mikel.
I do read a clear out-group perspective in how Christoph wrote about this
subject. This to me is still strange. In
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