On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:57 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> During the past decade or so... during what little free time I have had at
> my disposal, I have occasionally found myself constructing extensive
> computer simulations to study the physics known as planetary motion.
You
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Roger B wrote:
> I am unable to subscribe using gmail. I send the subscription address and
> gmail I think keeps telling me that I have to have real address.
Go to mail.google.com and open a gmail account. Then, using that
account, send a message to vortex-l-requ
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:01 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> I suspect this phenomenon has been around for a very long time… perhaps
> since we first became sentient.
And maybe how we became so.
Roger,
Open a gmail account. WYSIWYG.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> AHA! That could related to changes in the treatment process. Celani has
> stated before that he bought the wire pretreated and samples were seen that
> had a visible wire coating which was burnt off - but then perhaps the
> processing was chang
Honestly, a guitar?
http://outreach.astro.columbia.edu/aboutus/photos/joshs.jpg
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> MIT? Is that a guess.
Columbia will suffice. I dunno; but, I don't think he was doin' this alone.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:58 PM, William Beaty wrote:
The
> x-ray laser backscatter CIA satellites are imaging your brain right now, you
> know? Their beams are pulsed to cleverly mimic cosmic ray background on a
> gm counter, but I know better, I KNOW!
I told you to keep your tin foil hat well
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Roger B wrote:
> I have been a lurker for a short while, but I figured if skeptopaths are
> allowed here, I should also be accepted.
>
> I think a simple way to deal with skeptopaths is to make a rule that no one
> may be here who does not accept the reality of LENR
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
> It takes time to formulate a well-structured and informative post. However,
> If a mindless randomize word generator technique is used to produce a series
> of post , a high rate of verbiage can be spewed out in a relatively short
> timeframe.
Th
Take a look at the posting times of JC's latest posts in the Ethics
string and compare with the length of the posts:
7:44
7:45
7:46
7:48
7:50
7:52
7:54
7:55
7:57
7:58
7:59
8:08
Hmmm. Interesting, eh? Now, I'm not saying he is a bot; but, can even
Jed do this in real time with his Dragon?
How ca
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:24 PM, David L Babcock wrote:
> What he said. I whacked, unread, those forty odd, and here I am reading and
> deleting, one-by-one, forty or so responses. Enough of this.
JC is considerate to post all his responses at one time making them
easier to scroll through. :)
One of the 10 most famous paintings in the world. Peter Greenaway
actually made two versions of the movie about this painting
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446750/
and
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1303889
and the life of Rembrandt. The latter explaining in detail how full
of meaning the paintin
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Rob Dingemans wrote:
> Hi,
>
> An appropriate anagram of "cold fusion" would be ;-) :
> Coils Found
There's also:
Foci Old Sun
Cloud Of Sin
Cud Of Lions
Flu Is On Doc
And a few hundred more in english.
There are bad ones too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHyug2PvpB8
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote:
> If Rossi can make devices that demonstrably and reliably work and don't blow
> up, he proves the E-Cat is real. If they reliably blow up, he's in the
> armaments business.
LOL! Proving the reaction to be HIGHLY OVER UNITY!
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> I'm hoping we can do something more dramatic, on a larger scale. Something
> like what the Japanese authorities did to the notorious criminal Ishikawa
> Goemon in 1594 would be ideal, but I guess that's out.
Raising the temperature a little b
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote:
> Unfortunately, I think that the person who made the "cup of tea" bet has
> passed on.
Dr. Richard L. Garwin is alive and well and will likely live to have his tea.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> Neologisms-R-us…* *
>
> What is the take-away message from any “designer name”? First - it should
> point to the most attractive feature, and second it should be fairly
> unique.
>
>
> Or maybe it should simply be kewl:
http://www.adobe.com/
http://www.iter.org/doc/www/content/com/Lists/list_items/Attachments/507/2013_Blanket.pdf
Reminds me of the weakest part of Shuttle, the tiles.
Brought to you by Google!
http://www.gizmag.com/google-x-makani-power-airborne-wind-turbine/27668/
The birds are gonna love this one!
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> I have dined on crow before and prefer mine well-charred with a nice Pinot
> Noir…
Foul! Fowl demands a white, say chardonnay,
I thought we agreed to call Muon assisted fusion "warm fusion".
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Edmund Storms wrote:
> We are taking about two different phenomenon of nature. Trying to use the
> same concepts and words to describe both results in confusion. Those of us
> who have studied cold fu
Well, I graduated from Georgia Tech in 1977 with an EE, am a
registered professional engineer and manage a group of mostly EE
consulting engineers and I agree with Jed.
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Yamali Yamali wrote:
>
> Jed wrote: "I do not think it takes long for an electrical engineer t
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Rob Dingemans wrote:
> Of course, because a diesel engine works with GLOW PLUGS as it doesn't have
> any spark plugs.
> But these glow plugs still require electricity generated by an alternator
> which is connected by a V-belt to the engine.
Glow plugs are for sta
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, wrote:
> More interesting is when the electron is at "perigee"
Clearly this is based on the Bohr model, obsolete; but, could you
explain a bit more?! :)
If you believe in Puthoff's explanation for the non-radiating
electron, there is a rapid exchange occurring
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:11 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
> The theories of hot fusion were built up from research on plasmas
> and they do work well when dealing with plasmas, but LENR is NOT occurring
> in a plasma.
Are you sure? Maybe not a plasma; but, possibly close. DGT
speculates that hig
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:18 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
> Harry/Dave:
>
> Andrew is borderline pathological skeptic… when challenged by Dave to do a
> Spice model so they could compare them to see if they get the same results,
> and if not, why, what does Andrew do? He starts with the insults an
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:01 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
> First I’ve heard this… does The Collective have any further knowledge of
> this?
Irving Langmuir. Probably resulted from the difference of a calorie
of energy and a calorie of nutrition: a factor of 10^3. Google is
your friend.
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> His wife has always been in charge of the business. Seriously. Assuming this
> report is true, I suppose it means someone else now is.
It would be nice if it was LockMart. I have friends there.
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Terry Blanton wrote:
>
>>
>> SPAWAR?
>
>
> Emphatically not.
SAIC?
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Ron Kita wrote:
> Greetings Vortex-L
> http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/rossi-no-longer-controls-e-cat-business/
SPAWAR?
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
> Who would have known the metronomes are bosons and that they could form a
> BEC?
Note the one, second row right, 180 degrees out of phase when all
others are synced. Eventually forced into phase.
I was saddened by the day that NASA essentially abandoned manned space
flight thinking it was the end of the Space Age. Was I ever wrong!
You probably know about most of these companies; but, here is a
compilation:
http://nymag.com/news/features/space-travel-2013-5/
And in more complex systems:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JWToUATLGzs
Does this apply to items of current interest?
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> How the world becomes lockstep:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=play
How the world becomes lockstep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1TMZASCR-I
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
> Reminiscent of an exploding wire right before the explosion but a nsec after
> the current starts to flow.
>
>
>
> Is there any indication that Rossi is doing this kind nickel treatment?
>
>
Not necessarily intended to explain AR; however, h
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 12:15 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:
> Everyone is so focused on one or two threads that new ones don't get much
> attention...
Yeah, but if you go back to the original demonstration years ago, the
arguments sound quite familiar. Boring.
I think that it is important to have
More powerful and just as quiet:
http://www.gizmag.com/uge-visionair-wind-turbine/27609/
It actually looks artistic.
Forms nanochains. Kinda like whiskers? So, a changing magnetic field
would make this geometry come alive?
http://openi.nlm.nih.gov/detailedresult.php?img=2893928_1556-276X-5-597-2&req=4
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Chris Zell wrote:
> Yes, but referees could be part of the international conspiracy that Rossi
> is commanding.
"Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories"
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote:
> I said it was a moot point [1]
Thanks for the clarification. Your comment struck me as ominous,
hence my response.
Personally, I prefer http://www.thefreedictionary.com/
Warm regards,
Terry
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Mark Gibbs wrote:
> Terry,
>
> Thanks. The issue has become a moot point and Bill needn't bother.
I really don't care what you do to the offender; but, injuring this
list is not in your best interest. After all, didn't you get the
original story here?
Mark,
Bill does not monitor this list regularly and the email address you
used might not get his attention. I have posted to him via a
different address. Please standby until he has a chance to respond.
This list has benefited you in the past. I suspect your gain exceeds your loss.
On Tue, Ma
I thought Vorts might find this amusing. It has happened to me. :-)
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Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:27 AM
7:27 AM
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[EskimoNorthUsers] Re: Is Eskimo down?
To elaborate further on this, I fell asleep in the middle of a
software update
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
> Plus, AR sold his biofuel company EON for about one million Euro and could
> have retired comfortably to Miami on that income.
You can retire on $1.3M? Can you show me how? I think I need about $3M.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> I agree on all points except I know nothing about d), and I do not see how
> this would prevent him from marketing.
>
> I can't think of anything not on this list. Maybe:
>
> f) He does not have enough capital. (Maybe? I don't know.)
He see
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:58 PM, David Roberson wrote:
> The ECAT is made of metal if I recall correctly
I thought the first test used a ceramic.
Darn, gotta read it again.
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Andrew wrote:
> The thing about a successful hoax, Terry, is that it is the investigating
> scientists who are fooled. Nobody is suggesting the sort of grand conspiracy
You might not be, but others are. I understand your point about
fooling scientists; however, I
Personally, I would avoid any implication that these scientists nor
their institutions are implicit in a hoax.
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>> What do you think of my hoax theories?
>
> Well, when I look for a hoax, I also ask myself "Where is the benefit?"
> What do you think of my hoax theories?
Well, when I look for a hoax, I also ask myself "Where is the benefit?"
Whew. The paper which started this conversation indicates the
scientists involved and their academic affiliation. I would like to
caution some people, you know who you are, that this particular list,
Vortex-l is widely read.
Further caution, I have seen many statements which could be considered
Mr. Gibbs, welcome to our world.
Andrew, infrared lasers? Really.
Okay, somehow these scientists missed the hidden CO2 laser which would
create spot heating of the test device.
:-)
If Ni62 is not consumed, the cost is somewhat academic.
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
> In some cultures and sub-cultures (not speaking about counter-cultures)
> NOT changing your opinions is considered a virtue. An example:
>
> http://news.newenergytimes.net/2013/05/21/rossi-manipulates-academics-to-create-illusion-of-independent
Things were going so well.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/news/keplerm-20130515.html
Thanks, Bill!
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>
>
> (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) )))
> William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website
> billb at amasci com http://amasci.com
> EE/programmer/
Broken or disinterested?
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/18/tech/moon-explosion
"A meteoroid struck the surface of the moon recently, causing an
explosion that was visible on Earth without the aid of a telescope,
NASA reported Friday. But don't be alarmed if you didn't see it; it
only lasted about a second.
"It exploded in a
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Andy Findlay wrote:
> Yes, Terry, but note I was talking about anomalous heat.
Yeah, it was intended as a bit of humor.
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Andy Findlay wrote:
> I wonder if anyone has looked for anomalous heat in this process.
Whether they look or not, they often find heat considering that the
material is flammable.
". . . very strong isotope effect . . . "
VSIE . . . never seen that term before. Pronounced "vizzy" rhymes
with "fizzy". Beats "leaner" rhymes with "weiner".
Whew! If I was J. Barrera^3, I'd be totally confused now.
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> See also:
>
> "Tesla sales beating Mercedes, BMW and Audi"
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/13/autos/tesla-sales-bmw-mercedes-audi/
>
So, will the next James Bond movie include a Tesla? After all, it was born
of a British Lotus.
If not, ho
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Patrick Ellul wrote:
> COP = 3.07
>
The magic ratio that FE people have sought!
With volumes exceeding 20M shares in the past two days of trading, TSLA is
flirting with ta $90 share price. Had you bought 1000 shares at the IPO
price, you could now buy a low end Tesla S for your $16,000 investment
(excluding taxes).
Kewl!
And now some dark Lovecraftian creature from lightning:
http://whofortedblog.com/2013/05/04/hell-it-bizarre-organism-appears-lightning-strike/
Amazin' stuff, water:
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/strange.html
"The Air Force stripped an unprecedented 17 officers of their authority to
control -- and, if necessary, launch -- nuclear missiles after a string of
unpublicized failings, including a remarkably dim review of their unit's
launch skills. The group's deputy commander said it is suffering "rot"
withi
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
> And your post was the 666th email in my outlook/vortex folder… who’s
> funeral spell were you casting?
>
>
> LOL! I suppose someone should pay astute attention.
(alliteration and assonance)
;)
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
> Science advances one funeral at a time.
>
>
> Attempts to accelerate advancement requires a capital crime.
(assonance and alliteration)
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
> either a generation of scientist get their PhD in cereal box, or they hide
> an inconvenient fact. that they cannot find a definitive reason not to
> accept LENR .
>
Or they suffer from cognitive dissonance having invested their careers and
http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.110.185005
"After centuries of observation, lightning is still a puzzle: it is not yet
fully known how thunderclouds acquire electrical charge and what initiates
the discharge. Two factors are thought to be important: small water or ice
parti
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
> If - in fact it turns out that Rossi is using this particular nickel
> isotope, and from the Kurchatov source, there is a good chance the above
> scenario is a fairly accurate portrayal of what is happening.
Any comment on the net energy b
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/514511/first-tunguska-meteorite-fragments-discovered/
Let's hope it's not Dempsey Dumpster. :-)
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Chris Zell wrote:
> **
> Why build robots if you can just grow them?
>
> There are some who might believe that extraterrestrials have already
> realized such an advantage in the case of *"Grey Aliens" !*
>
Or human beings for that matter.
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> Not easy to explain, but seems to violate conservation of momentum
>
>
Why? You have the acceleration of gravity + the acceleration of the
magnetic field acting on the first ball.
Note that, on the return of the exiting ball, the first ball
Had not seen that one. I still prefer the topical theory:
http://www.theoryofmatterandenergy.com/The%20Vortex%20Theory%20of%20Matter%20and%20Energy.pdf
as and edgy explanation of M&E.
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
> Aside from battery failures - there are reports circulating now about
> lithium batteries which have achieved anomalous energy density - far over
> chemical energy storage potentials.
Likely caused by microscopic amounts of dilithium. ;-
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> Here is what the NAE really looks like up close – a 3.5 micron cluster that
> gobbles up protons like they were gummy drops …
Whereupon they are chased by solar neutrinos, the ghost particle.
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant
For those seekin' balance . . . the next line " 'ceptin' Alice."
e.g. Alice herself is not available.
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Edmund Storms wrote:
> OK Peter, let's discuss. I view the LENR process like I would a complex
> machine in which all the parts have a function, but each must work with the
> other parts for the entire machine to work properly.
I agree and; furthermore, believe th
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
>> What a joke this is.
>
> Propaganda?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> What a joke this is.
Propaganda?
Sometimes a flop is just a flop.
"One giant leap for mankind: £13bn Iter project makes breakthrough in
the quest for nuclear fusion, a solution to climate change and an age
of clean, cheap energy
It may be the most ambitious scientific venture ever: a global
collaboration to create an unlimited s
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:57 PM, David Roberson wrote:
> There must be a large underwater pipe carrying the material out of the river
> or lake. Notice that we never get to look toward the land.
The photographers are clearly on the land due to the stability of the
camera. They are likely standi
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> Having said that - there does seem to be an inexpensive way to enrich nickel
> in the heavier isotopes up to perhaps 5 times natural ratios, but it's not
> worth mentioning.
And why is it not worth mentioning?
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
>> As usual, Axil is off by orders of magnitude. His 10^20 neutron decay
>> garbage is nothing but complete BS.
>
>
> People here do not understand Axil. He is the cat, and we are the mous
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
> Nanoplasmonics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxihhBzCjk
http://boingboing.net/2013/04/18/what-happens-when-you-wring-ou.html
For hand towels, astronauts get those little vacuum-packed pucks that
you kind of have to unravel into a towel. But what happens when you
actually put the towels to use?
Two Nova Scotia high school students, Kendra Lemke and Mer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orr_(Catch-22)
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
>> How long will it be before we can see the entire action live from a
>> satellite in real time?
>
> I am indeed a
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> How long will it be before we can see the entire action live from a
> satellite in real time?
I am indeed a wacko like Orr, but you should fly with me:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg78280.html
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:05 AM, John Berry wrote:
> To the RIGHT side of your monitor.
Does it matter if your monitor is a CRT, LED or LCD?
Don't confuse force with energy.
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
> Possible
> relation to John Barleycorn?
Considering his heritage, more likely Dionysus. :-)
Just one other statement. Magnets in repulsion can be made to appear
to be successful in a magmo. But the magnets are degraded in each
cycle of the motor, much like striking the magnet with a hammer in
each cycle. Eventually it fails.
Magnetic motors working in attraction mode do not degrade th
Jaded, yes. As one who spent over 2 years pursuing the magmo, I can
honestly say that I am jaded.
There is no larger reservoir of magmo configurations nor physical
magnets than those of the now defunct M International. We spent about
2 megabucks.
If you want to give an idea a try, we have the m
It has been down for a couple of days.
I monitor the eskimo yahoo group and did not see any notice. Maybe
they didn't give one? :-)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:07 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>
> eskimo.com ISP is transferring the software to a new machine. Something
> went wrong?
>
>
>
> (
I searched the NRL web pages and never found any reference to this.
Now I see why:
http://news.newenergytimes.net/2013/04/04/intelligence-analyst-gripes-to-new-energy-times-about-publishing-leak/
So, was the NRL trying to keep this a bit on the QT? Do they not want
to be associated with LENR? O
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