Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-23 Thread Joshua Cude
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > the tobacco industry stopped cancer research; > No, they didn't. They slowed down public acceptance of the danger, and government action against smoking. But from the earliest evidence, the medical establishment accepted the link between smo

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: > I disagree. Nobody can protect their jobs by suppressing the > greatest discoveries of the last century. Lots of people made tons of money suppressing the greatest discoveries of the last century! The dairy industry suppressed pasteurization from 1860 to 1917; the tobacco in

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Needless to say, protecting cushy family jobs was not disclosed, in the > interest of fairness. However, this seems to be a typical motivation for Ivy > League techno-hegemonists with connections to hot fusion ... I disagree. Nobody can pro

RE: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jones Beene
Craig, I think it was earlier than that, and you could be referring to Dr. Peter Zimmerman, not Park. Robin may remember this incident, as it was reported on HSG forum some years ago. If memory serves, at the time this person (either Park of PZ or someone else) protested vehemently - not only

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: > > Does anyone remember this? In 2002, (or thereabouts), Randell Mills > applied for a patent for his method of creating heat with a device in a > similar fashion to the method that Rossi is using, and his patent was > accepted to the point t

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Craig Haynie
> It is not in the interest of the US Patent Office or the US government > to suppress cold fusion devices -- to the contrary, discovery of a > robust energy generator that worked with cold fusion would be > spectacular for the economy of the US and would reduce or eliminate > dependence on foreig

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > The Patent Office did, in fact, suppress cold fusion applications in 1989. > They still do. This is not debatable. All applications are summarily > rejected with a form letter that cites mass media reports from 1989 as >

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: > > They would have had to organize a method of segregating them out and > assigning them to specialists who had familiarized themselves with patent > issues in the field. I suspect that's what the memo was about rather than > some nefarious plot by some unknown entity to suppre

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Mary Yugo
The memo is from 1989. That was when P&F's cold fusion was popular and the patent office probably got many thousands of applications in a huge flood. They would have had to organize a method of segregating them out and assigning them to specialists who had familiarized themselves with patent issue

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > > I gather this is a personal email address? After all, I wouldn't > expect him to be working in that job still after almost 23 years. > Correct. He is an impressive person: http://www.mwe.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/bios.detail/object_id/5d0d6832-8ef7-4c07-a4fc-3cdc7af64f9

Re: [Vo]:Message sent to Kenneth Cage

2011-11-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > [Someone here found Mr. Cage's e-mail address, and suggested I contact him > about the memo. I just sent him this message.] > > Subject: Do you recall the intent of this memo? > > Dear Mr. Cage, > I gather this is a personal email address?