function because the procedure is too cumbersome and punishing. Which
is why certain matters have gradually shifted to staff who can make
quick decisions and have clear authority to do so. Some things are
done by, or at the direction of, the legal department, for example.
Fred Bauder
On Sat, 18 Feb
100% beef with no preservatives, no fillers and is topped with daily
sliced tomatoes and onions, fresh lettuce, pickles, ketchup and mayo,
served on a soft sesame seed bun." happens to be factually true and
cannot be said of the products of, say, McDonalds where the "fixings"
arr
I think we could hire professional fact checkers and target articles
that have gotten off track. I don't think a great deal of money would
be necessary to set an example, and illustrate some of our notorious
problems. In general more money, however, draws flies even better than
shit.
We should sue Billy the Kid while we are at it. And Hitler... Imagine the
bragging he does down in Hell.
Fred
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with getting up to
speed on gender or whatever.
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Hi all,
On Wikipedia and in our
Women editors might have something to add about nursing and the history of
nursing that adds gender-specific value, increasing our coverage of the
subject. So a workshop at a nursing convention might be valuable.
Fred
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...because of our rules regarding references. Oddly,
Wikipedia can at best only echo the systemic bias, but will
t; > > -Original Message-
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> > > > Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Béland
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Lucille B. Buchanan might make an article:
http://www.blackpast.org/aaw/jones-lucy-lucile-berkeley-buchanan-1884-1989
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ors to extremely unreliable material. If Wikipedia is to remain
> > open
> > > to
> > > > > anyone to edit, there do not appear to be any robust alternatives.
> > > Other
> > > > > projects may work around this problem,
> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>> El jue., may. 10, 2018 10:27, Peter Southwood <
>>>>> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Notability and verifiability are important. They allow us to
>>
Southwood <
> > > > > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
> > > > > escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Notability and verifiability are important. They allow us to
> > produce
> > > > > > reasonably reliable work. Moving away from
; > > > There are many things that can be addressed individually and as a
> > > > > movement
> > > > > > or collective, if we believe the conclusions are valid, which I
> > > > > personally
> > > > > > do, since they are supported with data
that leap, do we really want to share
> the
> > > sum
> > > > of
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > knowledge, do we want to address inherent bias in our current
> > > > knowledge
> > > > > > > networks or are we comfortabl
> > > > > > knowledge streams
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10 May 2018 at 21:47, Eduardo Testart
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
>
e way to
distinguish between the two types.
Paulo
2018-05-12 13:40 GMT+01:00 FRED BAUDER :
> And should be used, just as an image of a headstone can be used, in
> preference to some writing about it. Exceptions, don't prove the rule
> though. A diary should not be used directly, a
leads to such egregious
situations as some newspaper saying what the director of an institution is,
is prefered to the very institution correcting the name. I've seen this
over and over.
Paulo
2018-05-12 13:45 GMT+01:00 FRED BAUDER :
> Just as we allow a firm to list their officers or a
dia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems
It's reliable concerning the opinions and vision of the author on the
things he describes, not the facts themselves.
And unless I'm misunderstanding this, fact checkers (critics?) are actually
secondary sources, I believe?
Paulo
2018-05-12 13:48 GMT+01
Very good. If any willing editor runs into trouble or is made to feel unwelcome
or subjected to unfair criticism, that is the time to intervene. We are however
not in a position to discourage women or minority editors from "recruiting" or
encouraging other minority editors or women to edit. Any
liability by notifying
users of various realities, such as, we cannot, and do not, guarantee
reliability, so use at your own risk.
Fred Bauder
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It is legal. It limits
> liability by notifying users of various realities, such as, we cannot, and
> do not, guarantee reliability, so use at your own risk.
>
> Fred Bauder
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Amir E. Aharoni
> To: wikimedia-l
> Sent: Wed, 27
An executive summary is common at the head of many reports and articles. Only
sections in the body of the article would be cited. Somewhat like a lede but
more detailed. The main body of the article would still have a lede.
Fred Bauder
ts of practitioners.
Wikipedia long ago lost the battle with respect to inclusion of some
information which in only included due to the persistence of biased editors who
have acquired skill in manipulating our guidelines. Generally, that tends to
the authoritarian left.
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e all rules:" Assume the rules
are reasonable and edit.
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Craig,
I don't expect you to do anything about it, but Hillary Clinton
presidential campaign, 2016 has been so much an object of political
editing by Clinton supporters that it looks more like an ad for
Hillary than a Wikipedia article.
Fred Bauder
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:43:32 -0400
from the election. How
about...reminding me two weeks from today. I might've recovered by
then,
seriously...
Thanks!
Craig Newmark
founder, craigslist
On Nov 2, 2016 12:44 PM, "FRED BAUDER"
wrote:
Craig,
I don't expect you to do anything about it, but Hillary Clinton
p
free speech means in practice.
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On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:35:30 +0100
Yaroslav Blanter wrote:
Well, there were speakers who were not able to attend Wikimanias in
Haifa
and Cairo, to start with, because of similar bans, and the general
response
then was "Whatever place we choose, someone is always
discriminated". I am
not sure w
A blanket ban sweeps in possible contributors and potential employees.
A well-crafted policy, properly administered, generally, would not.
Fred Bauder
On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 04:15:33 -0500
Yair Rand wrote:
When and how the Wikimedia Foundation should associate itself
publicly on
policy and
I have started the article Ravel Law on en. Basic access is free to
the public; however, we could ask for "professional" access which is
offered free to "law students and legal academics"
Fred Bauder
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:48:51 -0700
Pine W wrote:
Good news fo
s us, if we can use it.
Fred Bauder
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 06:24:01 -0400
"FRED BAUDER" wrote:
I have started the article Ravel Law on en. Basic access is free to
the public; however, we could ask for "professional" access which is
offered free to "law students and le
That said, it doesn't matter who writes the content on Wikipedia so
long as it's relevant and factual.
That's the point; it would not matter if women contributed so long as
it's relevant and factual. Half the humans that could contribute are
not. Actually many more than half, as there are ba
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:53:47 +0530
Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote:
On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
Need I say anything else?
I think you've hit the nail on the head. It should not be easier to
dominate a player-killing MUD than to edit an article on Wikipedia. In
other words, one sh
ot; solved by Wikimedia.
Please don't do the same simpler association "number of speakers" =
"potential number of contributors" because that strategy will be
*surely*
wrong.
Regards
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:56 AM, FRED BAUDER
wrote:
That said, it doesn'
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:25:23 +0100
Ilario Valdelli wrote:
I partially disagree with this vision.
Without the North American and European men there would not be any
opportunity to say: "we would share the sum of the human knowledge".
Probably Wikimedia would not exist.
True, but our goal was
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:29:57 +0100
Liam Wyatt wrote:
As this thread demonstrates, what discussions about the massive
gender imbalance in Wikimedia editorship need is more men discussing
why it
might or might not be important.
Radical feminist notions that men should reduce editing or
part
It's a rhetorical question, but, based on experience, I would probably
chime in if a similar proposal was floated about native people such as
African tribes or American Indians; most hardly ever edit, even in
their own language, and throwing money at the problem is unlikely to
be productive. It
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gender gap project-related decision
On 8 Jan 2015 16:11, "FRED BAUDER" wrote:
...
I've noticed that women are often quite motivated and good at
writing
grant proposals.
Extending
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:27:09 -0700
Pine W wrote:
Hi all,
Since WMF is doing a strategy update (with which I'm not involved,
but hope
that the community can influence), I'm wondering what others
thoughts are
on Wikipedia's strategic opportunities and threats.
What do others think about how
Video is not necessary.
Fred
On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:42:34 -0700
David Cuenca Tudela wrote:
I third that!
However we are entering the field of privacy, because as useful the
virtual
meetings can be, they might be intrusive if you are in your home and
you
show your whole house to the world.
Once the money an organization obtain from grants out matches anything
they get from anywhere else they become autonomous. "Community support"
just becomes a box to check.
Fred
> This week's issue of the English Wikipedia Signpost delivers mildly
> shocking news about the opinion of a "prominent
Google's motto is "Do no evil"
I suppose you would have ours be "do all notable evil"
Fred
> Re:
> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/02/wikipedia-page-google-link-hidden-right-to-be-forgotten
>
> If Google "disappearing" a Wikipedia article is a notable news event,
> wouldn't that m
The title of the article above an image of Jimmy Wales, is: Wikipedia
link to be hidden in Google under 'right to be forgotten' law
Request for blocking of search results granted to anonymous applicant is
first to affect an entry in the online encyclopaedia
Fred
> Re:
> http://www.theguardian.com
> On 4 August 2014 10:49, David Gerard wrote:
>> Possibly, if/when the Foundation finds out, it should first pass the
>> issue to the OTRS volunteers who handle BLP problems to examine.
>
> Why would that need to be dealt with by OTRS volunteers, and not the
> community at large?
>
> --
> Andy Mab
I would prefer decency as a core value.
Fred
> On 05/08/2014, John Mark Vandenberg wrote:
> ...
>> We have a reply:
>> https://twitter.com/JulietteGarside/status/496644233580003328
>>
>> "@jayvdb @guardian @Wikipedia @wikisignpost We won't know unless
>> Wikipedia chooses to make that informatio
I would prefer decency as a core value.
Fred
> On 05/08/2014, John Mark Vandenberg wrote:
> ...
>> We have a reply:
>> https://twitter.com/JulietteGarside/status/496644233580003328
>>
>> "@jayvdb @guardian @Wikipedia @wikisignpost We won't know unless
>> Wikipedia chooses to make that informatio
This is closely tied to software which is being developed, some of it
secretly, to enable machines to understand and use language. As of now
this will be government and corporate owned and controlled. I say closely
tied because that is how translation works; only someone or something
that understan
> On 24/04/13 08:29, Erik Moeller wrote:
>> Could open source MT be such a strategic investment? I don't know, but
>> I'd like to at least raise the question. I think the alternative will
>> be, for the foreseeable future, to accept that this piece of
>> technology will be proprietary, and to rely
All European languages, with the exception of Basque, are essentially one
language with different vocabulary. MT should generally work, but needs
help as the example shows. The big, and perhaps insurmountable, problem
comes with trying to use it with say, Hopi, which assigns meanings in a
wholly di
> On 9 May 2013 12:19, Anthony Cole wrote:
>
>> In your hypothetical case of Russian only being spoken in one country
>> that
>> censors "how to smoke marijuana" information:
>>
>> If you insist on leaving a paragraph on "how to make a bong" in the
>> Russian-language "Marijuana smoking" article,
> On 05/09/2013 07:19 AM, Anthony Cole wrote:
>> We would be failing in our mission to disseminate educational
>> information
>> effectively and globally if, due to an ideological attachment to
>> NOTCENSORED, we took the former option.
>
> You're saying this as though those things were orthogonal
I've also done a great deal of editing of Tibetan articles. I wish there
was a way to transport you back in time to old Tibet.
Fred
>
> Highlighting the fact that such an old hand was making a rookie-like
> "mistake" was actually, y'know, the point.
>
>
>> From: dger...@gmail.com
>> Date: Thu, 9
> Florence,
>
> I agree with you almost completely, but I would also note that it is also
> partially about the user's thought processes and business norms that
> determine how "fast" it is. My employer, for instance, has a wiki that's
> meant to be a collaborative resource where disparate elements
We could create a Facebook page, "Wikipedia Chill", where only positive
interactions are permitted...
Only half joking here. We can consciously design interactions in terms of
their emotional tenor should we chose to. In an example taken from life,
we can keep vicious dogs for the effect they have
> I agree that patience is a very important virtue in some situations, such
> as when we coach newbies or seek consensus among many people. But it's
> sometimes not a virtue, such as in many crisis situations. As a metrics
> and performance enthusiast, I feel that it's possible to have an
> appropr
I think that is a pretty good analysis of the entire project. It is
directly related to lack of editorial control and the impossibility of
being able to assign writers to problem areas.
Fred
> I ran across this paragraph in the preface to O'Reilly's new book
> "Encyclopedia of Electronic Componen
> Also, classic Marxism. Draw your own conclusions and parallels as you see
> fit.
Oh, didn't know if anyone else would see that:
http://en.communpedia.org/Lyrics:Somebody_Will
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> By the way, is there a license attached to this song, or is it bare
> copyright?
Copyright Sassafrass As it is a song there are special rules for
commercial performances, like if you cover it. Cover means sing a song
you did no write yourself like on a recording.
Fred
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 a
All edits and other actions are archived, but I would think there would
be zero interest or utility to NSA. I would simply ignore the matter.
Fred
> This is a simple question with a potentially very complicated answer.
>
> What, if any, are the implications of the PRISM scandal for Wikimedia?
e official statement could help put at ease people worries :)
> --
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>
>
> On 10 June 2013 03:34, Fred Bauder wrote:
>> All edits and other actions are archived, but I would think there would
>> be zero interest or utility to NSA. I would simply ignore the matter.
&
> There is plenty of reason to think the government would be interested in
> Wikipedia access logs.
>
> On the other hand, there's very little reason to believe an organization
> when they say they haven't been turning over information under a top
> secret
> order which they're not allowed to tell
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Fred Bauder
wrote:
>
>> Everything passing over the internet is archived. Nearly everything done
>> at Wikipedia passes over the internet.
>>
>
> Encrypted, if you're using https everywhere (and Wikipedia hasn't
intentiona
They tap directly into the internet backbone. Only if there is some
particular matter which interests them which they would need our help to
decipher would they contact the Foundation. There are a few things out
there that I can imagine them being interested in, but very few. For
example, there are
You are right, Anthony, never assume you're not dealing with idiots. If
NSA is doing doing detailed surveillance of Tea Party activists or
defense lawyers we are truly well along the road to hell.
Fred
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Fred Bauder
> wrote:
>
>> Correct. If
National Security Letters have been served on Libraries. However, as we
keep no track whatever off who is reading the site; it is hard to see how
serving one on us would accomplish anything; we can't produce records we
don't keep. I suppose a secret court order could be applied for which
would requ
> It would be good *if* the WMF can provide assurances to editors that
> they havent received any national security letters or other 'trawling'
> requests from any U.S. agency.
>
> If the WMF has received zero such requests, can the WMF say that?
> There wouldn't be any gag order.
>
> https://en.w
Forwarded to legal at wikimedia.org
Fred
> I think the key here is not to keep more information about users than
> necessary.
>
> Of course, there is the question of if the NSA asks for our checkuser
> data.
>
> I am relatively confident of WMF's honesty here. They have been pretty
> concerned ab
They tap directly into the internet backbone. Only if there is some
particular matter which interests them which they would need our help to
decipher would they contact the Foundation. There are a few things out
there that I can imagine them being interested in, but very few. For
example, there are
> David Gerard wrote:
>>On 10 June 2013 18:01, Rand McRanderson wrote:
>>> I think the key here is not to keep more information about users than
>>> necessary.
>>
>>In particular - at present. as I understand it, we don't keep full
>>access logs, just 1/1000 samples.
>>
>>We need to not keep full
> Le 2013-06-10 12:21, Fred Bauder a écrit :
>>
>> Correct. If Osama Bin Laden had been editing Wikipedia, before his
>> death
>> of course, through some account in Pakistan, it would have been
>> rather
>> reasonable to respond favorable to a reque
> Le 2013-06-10 14:29, Craig Franklin a écrit :
>> If the NSA, CIA, or some other spook agency is getting information
>> off of
>> Wikimedia servers, they don't have a CU account or anything like
>> that.
>> They'd have a program running at the operating system level that
>> extracts
>> the data
We can guess, of course, and some of us are very good guessers, but here:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=5-basic-unknowns-nsa-black-hole-prism
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> Le 2013-06-11 14:09, Fred Bauder a écrit :
>> There will always be humans maintaining the system who must, in order
>> to
>> do their work, have potential access to everything.
>
> A "potential access to everything" is a so vast and vague assertion
> tha
> Le 2013-06-11 14:09, Fred Bauder a écrit :
>> There will always be humans maintaining the system who must, in order to
>> do their work, have potential access to everything.
>
> A "potential access to everything" is a so vast and vague assertion
that it practical
> Fred Bauder, 12/06/2013 22:47:
>> "We hack network backbones  like huge internet routers, basically Â
>> that
>> give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of
>> computers without having to hack every single one,"
>>
>> h
> I would like to raise the option of a more "Wikipedia-like" protest. How
> about, on the English Wikipedia, picking one day to make the Main Page
> topic-specific, similar to the traditional April 1 selection?
>
> Candidates, off the top of my hat:
> [[NSA]] / [[Black Chamber]]
> [[PRISM (surveil
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> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Andy Mabbett
> wrote:
>
>> > PRISM
>>
>> From @ShammaBoyarin on Twitter: "Its not as if the NSA were mass
>> downloading articles from JSTOR."
>
>
> Certainly if the evidence showed that the NSA were breaking into wiring
> closets and hacking into computer network
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Fred Bauder
> wrote:
>
>> > (Yes, you can speculate that they're probably doing this too, but
>> this
>> > particular scandal is the NSA getting information from computer
>> networks
>> > with the perm
> The reporting in the UK is that it is aimed at 'foreigners'. I think that
> is us! Of course that may be for domestic US consumption.
Yes, the thing is, we are an international organization, and, frankly, we
don't vet people politically before they can create an account or edit.
Our trust system
"The GCHQ mass tapping operation has been built up over five years by
attaching intercept probes to transatlantic fibre-optic cables where they
land on British shores carrying data to western Europe from telephone
exchanges and internet servers in north America.
This was done under secret agreemen
s are logged or ever used
or how is another matter.
Fred
> Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder (fredb...@fairpoint.net) het
> volgende:
>
>> "The GCHQ mass tapping operation has been built up over five years by
>> attaching intercept probes to transatlantic fibre
would be of interest to an intelligence agencies focused on
actual threats.
Fred
> Where is that question in this topic?
>
> Huib
>
> Op zaterdag 22 juni 2013 schreef Fred Bauder (fredb...@fairpoint.net) het
> volgende:
>
>> > Can you please stop spamming Us
> Rick Falkvinge has been writing a book, "Swarmwise", on how the Pirate
> Party organised. He's been posting it a chapter at a time to his blog.
>
> You know how Wikipedia/Wikimedia has (or had) the meme that "voting is
> evil"? This sets out why.
>
>
> http://falkvinge.net/2013/07/01/swarmwis
> On 07/02/2013 11:13 AM, David Gerard wrote:
>> He claims this is how he did the Pirate Party, so you appear to be
>> claiming that a successful minor political party may work in practice
>> but can't possibly work in theory.
>
> I suppose. :-) I'm surprised it did work; if it actually did it th
I don't get it. I was able to use a Wikipedia link to find a place to
download The Searchers, a John Ford film starring John Wayne in about 30
seconds. How is that not theft that we are facilitating?
Fred
> Hi there,
> two months after the "smoking cannabis" controversy, the Russian
> Wikipedia
> On 07/09/2013 08:37 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:
>> How is that not theft that we are facilitating?
>
> Because "theft", is to deprive, temporarily or absolutely, the owner of
> it, or a person who has a special property or interest in it, of the
> thing or of his pro
> On 9 July 2013 23:46, Fred Bauder wrote:
>
>> > Well, not wanting to wade into that "pirates' little helpers"
>> snarkiness,
>> > but it takes 30 seconds from anywhere on the web to find a copyright
>> > violation. Maybe a bit longer if y
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Fred Bauder"
> To: "Wikimedia Mailing List"
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
>
>
>>> On 07/09/2013 08:37 PM, Fred
>>
>> If you post a creative work on a website the purpose which is to share
>> files you have assumed the rights of the owner, one of which is to
>> determine the conditions which must be met to view or listen to the
>> work.
>> The owner can give his work away to the world but not third parties.
> David Gerard wrote:
>
>> Fred, what's your actual point and suggested course of action with
>> this thread, and what does it have to do with the original starting
>> point?
>
> I'm totally puzzled to see how this thread was turned on its head. Not
> the first time that this happens on this list,
> On 10 July 2013 12:09, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:
>> On 07/09/2013 11:36 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:
>
>>> How
>>> is deliberate copyright infringement is not theft?
>
>> My previous message helpfully contained the definition of theft from
>> Canada's
I just checked the archives. The original message was not received by the
mailing list, for whatever reason, probably misaddressed. This message of
inquiry is the first message in the tread. I think you should resend the
original message if your mail program permits that. Sounds interesting...
Fre
> I just checked the archives. The original message was not received by the
> mailing list, for whatever reason, probably misaddressed. This message of
> inquiry is the first message in the tread. I think you should resend the
> original message if your mail program permits that. Sounds interesting
Resent so I have an original copy to reply to.
Dear All
It is certainly not news that a lot of deliberately biased editing goes on
on the Wikipedia. It is equally known that there are mechanims to address
these issues.
But that is where the problem lies - those intent on skewing information
know
>
> I use Flickr as an example, but is it not the firwst time that I have
> come
> across this type of behaviour.
> And so, tiny cliques and coteries flourish like fiefdoms in the blind
> spots
> of the mechanisms created to ensure that we all strive for the same
> principes. What is worse, there
> A case in point, the other day I was looking for images of mosquitos
> sucking blood and and came across blatant pornography on Flickr. I added
> a
> few lines about pornography on Flickr and because it was reverted
>
> Rui Correia.
The Flickr images you linked to, if it was you, were the sort
> It is this that is tarnishing the name of the Wikipedia and
> driving away good editors.
>
> Rui Correia.
>
When the going gets tough the tough get going. They don't throw their
hands up, vainly protest, then give up.
Possible conflict of interest is a legitimate concern; however, it is not
a
> On 07/23/2013 02:03 PM, Todd Allen wrote:
>> I
>> don't think such a proposal would be hopeless on en.
>
> How did dewiki circumvent the difficulties regarding attribution and
> role accounts? Last I checked, our terms of use prohibit password
> sharing, and IIRC Mike Godwin (legal counsel at th
> Thanks Andreas
>
> Iit didn't cross my mind that you would actually go and check - at the
> time
> the search terms were in Portuguese, so you will probably find different
> results - If I find the original pic I will send it to you.
>
> But more importantly, the porn on Flickr is a secondary iss
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