Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread K. Peachey
People that are interested in the version will more than likely already know about [[Special:Version]], if they want the added onscreen [clutter] presence they could whip up a gadget or something to pull it from the API. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Bináris wrote: > There could be a small-si

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread Bináris
There could be a small-sized version number somewhere on screen. Those who are interested in would learn where it is and could watch it, while others won't be disturbed. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.or

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.22.0 released

2013-12-06 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
Here's the document I've thought to contain the Right Information for the past years: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 23:02 +, Markus Glaser wrote: > > I am happy to announce the availability of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.22.0 released

2013-12-06 Thread K. Peachey
I only corrected the stable version number templates, Someone else will have to do the others (As well as the [[MW 1.22]] and the release notes page, if they havn't been done) On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 23:02 +, Markus Glaser wrote: > > I am

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.22.0 released

2013-12-06 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 23:02 +, Markus Glaser wrote: > I am happy to announce the availability of the first stable release of > the new MediaWiki 1.22 release series. Congratulations! I'm wondering which older versions are still supported. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:DownloadMediaW

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making MediaWiki extensions installable via Composer

2013-12-06 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2013-12-06 5:46 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > It seems that the idea of using Composer more in MediaWiki generally comes > up at least once every 2-3 months, but we never get beyond the "wouldn't it > be nice if" stage. I honestly don't think it would take that much of a > shove to put us on a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2013-12-06 12:31 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > The RELEASE-NOTES file should be useful for people who install MediaWiki on > their servers. It isn't so useful for Wikipedia readers and editors. The > Tech News should do the job of RELEASE-NOTES for Wikipedia readers and > editors, and it's easy t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making MediaWiki extensions installable via Composer

2013-12-06 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, Jeroen let me know offlist that he's not interested in writing an RFC in this area, so I'm wondering if there are any other takers for Composer use in MediaWiki. I think there may be multiple RFCs to consider: 1. Composer as a means of MediaWiki extension management 2. Composer as

Re: [Wikitech-l] SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec hook and documenting skin template variables

2013-12-06 Thread Jon Robson
I created a bug around killing this hook in favour of more specific clearer hooks - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58137 - I don't think we should be tinkering with template variables personally under any circumstances and if we are making changes we should be doing them higher up t

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.22.0 released

2013-12-06 Thread Markus Glaser
Dear all, I am happy to announce the availability of the first stable release of the new MediaWiki 1.22 release series. MediaWiki 1.22 is a large release that contains many new features and bug fixes. This is a summary of the major changes of interest to users. You can consult the RELEASE-NOTES-

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:53:36 +0100, Guillaume Paumier wrote: Developers would be ideally-placed to help identify noteworthy changes that will affect Wikimedia users, but most find that activity about as interesting as writing documentation, which says something :) Earlier this year, in a discu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:31:09 +0100, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Well actually, this reminds of the perennial "who should update the RELEASE-NOTES" discussion. It's hard to update it all the time in Gerrit, because it creates a lot of conflicts, so people don't do it and leave it to the release mana

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making MediaWiki extensions installable via Composer

2013-12-06 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Jeroen, I'd love for someone to take a crack at writing an RFC for this, and maybe we can get this on the agenda for the Architecture Summit. It seems to be a topic that comes up frequently, and has a number of champions, so it doesn't have to be you that does this. Thoughts? Rob On Sun, N

[Wikitech-l] SkinTemplateOutputPageBeforeExec hook and documenting skin template variables

2013-12-06 Thread Jon Robson
The mobile skin has traditionally used the template variable 'language_urls' in SkinTemplate to access the list of alternative languages of an article. We are now seeing a lot of friction and bugs as we try to move our codebase closer to core. Question 1: What does 'language_urls' mean - is it acc

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-06 Thread Yana Welinder
Hi all, Yes! You can do this under the new trademark policy. Here is some discussion about use of logos on Labs: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_policy#Discussion_about_section_2_.28How_to_use_the_Wikimedia_marks.29. We'll add some language to the Trademark Policy FAQ to clarify

[Wikitech-l] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on December 11, 2013 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC

2013-12-06 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
[x-posted] Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team will be hosting an IRC office hour on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 between 17:00 - 18:00 UTC on #wikimedia-office. (See below for timezone conversion and other details.) We will be talking about some of our recent and upcoming projects and

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I received this mail ... It answers your question .. Thanks, Gerard Hoi, Thanks to some help by Ori Livneh, there are some new installation instructions that I've added for Wdsearch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js Would you be able to go around to the various wikis

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

2013-12-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > In my estimation David is pretty capable of making an informed decision on > the merits of deploying VE to his wikis. > I wouldn't make such assumptions without context. Deploying beta software in a security sensitive environment is never

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread Guillaume Paumier
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > > How true. Alex asked because of a major upgrade problem on Wikisource which > interrupted almost everyone. See wikisource-l for details. > > I think there are times when a community would like a mass notice of some > sort, and it will diff

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-06 Thread Cristian Consonni
Il 05/dic/2013 07:32 "Ori Livneh" ha scritto: > Please don't load the script on every page. It only targets the search > result page. This means a redundant request on every page that isn't the > search page. You can change it to: > > if ( mw.config.get( 'wgCanonicalSpecialPageName' ) === 'Sea

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread Guillaume Paumier
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > > * How to get developers not to forget to write that. > > Quim, Guillaume - ideas on how to improve it? There's already a reminder at the top of https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments , and Greg does a great job at highlighting th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/12/6 Guillaume Paumier > I think the Tech news page makes it simple enough to get involved and > contribute: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News#contribute ; We > also have a reasonably-stable schedule, so now we "just" need more > people to give a hand. I'm actually drafting an overvi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

2013-12-06 Thread John Vandenberg
On Dec 6, 2013 1:12 PM, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > > Hoi, > Let us be honest indeed. The others are not heard when they scream and > shout in their little corner of the world.. > Thanks, > Gerard How true. Alex asked because of a major upgrade problem on Wikisource which interrupted almost e

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

2013-12-06 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Dec 6, 2013 3:28 AM, "John" wrote: > > Correct, I see how my words can be taken several ways. Right now VE is a > very unstable, bug filled, obnoxious elephant. Given enough time, testing, > and maturity it as a lot of promise. > > Right now its like trying to use a rocket like > http://cdn.ins