Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-31 Thread Scott Reed
No idea what model. I will offer them a phone next week, at least one to try and see what happens. On 12/28/2011 5:33 AM, Bret Clark wrote: > What model phone is it anyway? Noise floor would have to get pretty high > to knock the signal out completely, unless you have poor fade margin to > begin

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-28 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 09:56:19PM -0430, Greg Ihnen wrote: > Something about the ringing signal sent by the base to the handsets > is different. My dad had wireless headphones that received a horrible > pop when the cordless phone rang, but there was no interference when > talking on the phone. Th

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-28 Thread Bret Clark
What model phone is it anyway? Noise floor would have to get pretty high to knock the signal out completely, unless you have poor fade margin to begin with. On 12/27/2011 09:35 PM, Gary Garrett wrote: > Yeah, I am sure there is a huge amount of data transferred in the wake > up command. > The ha

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Greg Ihnen
ecommended.). > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:32 PM > Subject: R

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Gary Garrett
Yeah, I am sure there is a huge amount of data transferred in the wake up command. The handsets go into a sleep mode to give max battery life. The ring command is probably just all 0's or all 1's like the old frame relay connections use to tell the other end to loop back. The actual talk data is

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 12/27/2011 09:10 PM, Gary Garrett wrote: >The ringing current from the Telco to the base unit is 120 cycles per >second AC. >It would be more like AC hum on a sound system. Actually it's a 20 Hz near-square wave, 90 volts nominal. It is thus much, much more powerful than the talk voltage, sin

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
Agreed I think the call setup Is the key Leon Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Gary Garrett wrote: > The ringing current from the Telco to the base unit is 120 cycles per > second AC. > It would be more like AC hum on a sound system. > > I would bet the 2.4 phone system is u

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What I'm getting at is what initiates the ring. The copper pair hits the base unit and then tells all the handsets in the house to ring. I'm suggesting that this is 2.4 and what causes the SM's problem. I've seen a ringing telephone cause a Dlink router to reboot 100% of the time, it was easily r

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Gary Garrett
The ringing current from the Telco to the base unit is 120 cycles per second AC. It would be more like AC hum on a sound system. I would bet the 2.4 phone system is using most if not all the band at pretty low power. Probably it is the wake up and setup for a call that is knocking out the ISP n

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
What about from the copper pair to the handset? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Gary Garrett wrote: > No, actually the ringing is generated by the handset from the power in > its battery. > The comm

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Gary Garrett
No, actually the ringing is generated by the handset from the power in its battery. The command to ring is just a series of 1's and 0's sent from the base unit to instruct the handset to ring. On 12/27/2011 5:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > How would the handsets know to ring if not told by the

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
ent that "they" buy a new phone, > because > phone are cheap, and maybe recommend a better brand. (Once you determine > what a better brand is, such as Dect6 ones recommended.). > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
uch as Dect6 ones recommended.). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Blair Davis
Reed Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to the house, w

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
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Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Josh Luthman
irelessmapping.com >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Scott Reed >> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM >> To: WISPA General List &

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
relessmapping.com > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scott Reed > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Brian Webster
onday, December 26, 2011 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to the house, with an integrate

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
R u running sub channels? That might work Ldz Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Hammer? > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 12/26/2011 2:10 PM, Scott Reed wrote: >> I have a customer that has det

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference > > I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the > Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We > are using 2.4GHz to the house, with an integrated Arc panel

Re: [WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Hammer? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/26/2011 2:10 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, > the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet > works. We are using 2.4GHz to

[WISPA] Cordless Phone Ring Interference

2011-12-26 Thread Scott Reed
I have a customer that has determined that every time the phone rings, the Internet goes down. Once the phone is answered, the Internet works. We are using 2.4GHz to the house, with an integrated Arc panel on the roof. The customer has checked and the phone does not have a channel selection b