RE: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

Sorry I am late on this topic. But I agree with Steven. In practice, the screen reader users I have worked with find form place holders an irritant. Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 4 October 2004 4:10 PM

[WSG] Semantic status of images in headers

A client of mine is teaching himself CSS. I took a look at some of his code today (at his request) and saw that while he had set up a hierarchy of headers (h1, h2, h3) in the HTML, he had done no more than put an image inside each of them, with an "alt" tag. One of them was a white rectangle in

RE: [WSG] Semantic status of images in headers

Title: RE: [WSG] Semantic status of images in headers Hugh I think you are right. There is some debate about the use of image replacement techniques and how effective they are from a standards perspective. The best technique I have seen was devised by Todd Fahrner and is detailed at Jeffrey

[WSG] my share of photos form WE04

Enjoy! These are Day 2 photos atm will add the rest soon. http://www.karmakars.com/weblog/archives/2004/10/04/we04gallery -- Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webs

[WSG] IE 6 Hover Bug?

Return Receipt Your document: [WSG] IE 6 Hover Bug? was received by: Jonathan Cooper/ARTGAL-NSW/AU at: 04/10/2004 09:03:06 PM

Re: [WSG] my share of photos form WE04

Thanks A lot! I wasnt there, so - http://www.karmakars.com/WE04_gallery/window.php?8 - Please explain ??? Amit Karmakar wrote: Enjoy! These are Day 2 photos atm will add the rest soon. http://www.karmakars.com/weblog/archives/2004/10/04/we04gallery -- Chris Stratford

Re: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning

"Patrick H. Lauke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/10/2004 10:54:20 AM: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > OK, Consider this very simple HTML document: > ... > > How could leaving out the doctype make such a definite difference to such > > a simple page? > > The crucial part of my answer was: "

RE: [WSG] my share of photos form WE04

LOL... That photo *would* take some explaining if you weren't there! Joe's a funny bloke. Cheers Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Stratford Sent: Monday, 4 October 2004 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] my share o

Re: [WSG] my share of photos form WE04

> I wasnt there, so - http://www.karmakars.com/WE04_gallery/window.php?8 - > Please explain ??? Yeah, we need some explanation, don't we? Pleasant looking people, but who are they and why are they in the pix and what are they saying and doing in those pix? Maybe video with audio would be better?

Re: [WSG] my share of photos form WE04

LOL we had a lot of fun :) Joe was at his best as always ;-) I am updating the images and would have some more to add to the lot and the image folder path problem should be resolved soon. On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 04:25:01 -0700, Rick Faaberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wasnt there, so - http://

Re: [WSG] floating image

Yes, this is exactly what I am interested in.  Thank you for responding and I will try it out.    I also want to thank all of you who have responded to my inquiry, and have set the emails aside.   I haven't had time to try them out, but intend to soon.   Nancy JohnsonLea de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning

Title: RE: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning Dear Johnathan I would recommend you read this short article. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/doctype/ IMHO the setting of a DOCTYPE is an essential step in the migration to standards based web development. You have a va

RE: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for the clarification. However, I still don't understand WHY a > page requires a doctype declaration (in my case HTML 4.0 > transitional) just to make a font-size style cascade from body > through to td. I believe it's simply that quirks mode follows older brows

[WSG] Tables, is it Standard?

Hi, I would like to know if Tables is standard. You see, I have been into web standards for some time now nut I still use Tables and would like to know if it is standards Thanks -- Personal: www.olajideolaolorun.com www.empirex.net Business: www.tripleolabs.com www.tripleostudios.com www.tr

RE: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning

Peter Goddard wrote on 04/10/2004 11:10:07 PM: > I would recommend you read this short article. > http://www.alistapart.com/articles/doctype/ > IMHO the setting of a DOCTYPE is an essential step in the migration > to standards based web development. You have a valid point that if > you want to

Re: [WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea - Venue Confirmed

Damn I was just in Melbourne, had a beer or to at 3 Degrees and everything. Just to note anyone who likes chocolate, it's right across the courtyard :) Hope to catch it next time :) David McDonald wrote: The venue has now been confirmed for the WSG Melbourne meetup, with special guests Doug Bowm

RE: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning

"Martin J. Lambert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/10/2004 11:28:07 PM: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks for the clarification. However, I still don't understand WHY a > > page requires a doctype declaration (in my case HTML 4.0 > > transitional) just to make a font-size style cascade from b

Re: [WSG] Tables, is it Standard?

Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Hi, I would like to know if Tables is standard. You see, I have been into web standards for some time now nut I still use Tables and would like to know if it is standards Thanks I think it's key to distinguish between Standards and Best Practices. Web Standards have W3C

Re: [WSG] Tables, is it Standard?

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:55:42 -0400, Olajide Olaolorun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I would like to know if Tables is standard. You see, I have been > into web standards for some time now nut I still use Tables and would > like to know if it is standards Tables are valid HTML, but in the spi

Re: [WSG] Tables, is it Standard?

Hi Olajide, Tables are standard but like any markup, it needs to be used correctly. Tables can be used for layout (this practice is discouraged) or for storing tabular data. If you are using tables for layout, make sure to only use the following tags: , , . If you are using data tables, you need t

RE: [WSG] Tables, is it Standard?

Title: RE: [WSG] Tables, is it Standard? There is no hard and fast rule as the whether tables are 'standards'. It is possible to build site layout using tables and still comply with the 'rules'. The question is whether or not tables should be used at all other than for displaying tabular data.

Re: [WSG] Tables, is it Standard?

> If you are using data tables, you need > to use at least , , and and then associate the cells > ('s) with headers ('s). Agree. Would be good to also include summary and caption in that list :) Russ ** The discussion list for http://webstan

Re: [WSG] Semantic status of images in headers

Another thing you might want to consider telling him, and this isn't exactly a web standards issues, is that google may consider this tactic (wrapping a blank white rectangle in h1 tag) to be deceptive and SPAM. On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:55:16 +1000, Hugh Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A client of

[WSG] Why wont this validate

Hi, I'm doing server side validating on a form and I get some errors I'm not able to decrypt. So if someone have the time to take a look here http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.mouseriders.dk/kontakt.php%3Fsubmitted%3D1%26afsnavn%3D%26afsemail%3D%26afstelefon%3D%26afskommen

RE: [WSG] Why wont this validate

You need to move inside a block level element (in your case, move it into the fieldset which immediately follows it). Also, as it's an empty element, you need to make it self-closing Patrick > -Original Message- > From: Kim Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 October 2004 16:54

Re: [WSG] Why wont this validate

Try and close it meaning Put the / before the ending and try it On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:54:15 +0200, Kim Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm doing server side validating on a form and I get some errors I'm not > able to decrypt. > > So if someone have the time to take a look h

Re: [WSG] Why wont this validate

You need to close your input tags... You're missing the " /> " part at the end. On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:54:15 +0200, Kim Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm doing server side validating on a form and I get some errors I'm not > able to decrypt. > > So if someone have the time to ta

Re: [WSG] Why wont this validate

Hello, One thing I noticed is that your hidden input field isn't closed (like for img and br): cameron. Kim Kruse wrote: Hi, I'm doing server side validating on a form and I get some errors I'm not able to decrypt. So if someone have the time to take a look here http://validator.w3.org/check?

RE: [WSG] Why wont this validate

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Kruse Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Why wont this validate Hi, I'm doing server side validating on a form and I get some errors I'm not able to decrypt.

Re: [WSG] Why wont this validate

Having a look I think its because you are validating against xhtml strict but haven't closed the hidden input field. You have rather than , in xhtml all tags have to be closed, including stand alone ones line input or hr. Hope that helps Gareth On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 16:54, Kim Kruse wrote: > Hi

Recall: [WSG] Why wont this validate

Trusz, Andrew would like to recall the message, "[WSG] Why wont this validate". ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help

Re: [WSG] Why wont this validate

Wow that was fast... and I've been struggling with this for the last 2 hours. I have things to learn :o) There where as Patrick and others wrote 2 problems. The missing closing tag and the hidden fields should be wrapped in an block element. In this case tags as moving the hidden field into t

[WSG] IE topnav problems

I am stumped on this issue. Our top nav has a simple tab setup. It looks proper in firefox, there should be a thin white line separating the top nav from the subnav. In IE, there appears to be 2px of bottom padding or margin on the top nav and it is hiding the white line. I've tried all sorts o

RE: [WSG] IE topnav problems

Um, local machines won't work out here! P > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [WSG] IE topnav problems > > I am stumped on this issue. > > Our top nav

RE: [WSG] IE topnav problems

brainfart time Here are the right addresses http://v4.csatravelprotection.com/csa/help.do and css http://v4.csatravelprotection.com/csa/css/nav.css Thanks for pointing that out. Ted -Original Message- From: Peter Firminger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:57 AM

[WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?

  Hello,     My friend is asking me if i can use tags       can i validate that? its semantic correct?     Thanks;   Marky Pop.

Re: [WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?

Genau Junior wrote: Hello, My friend is asking me if i can use tags No. Make it Long live lists! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on

[WSG] RE: [WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?

You could do this   SDFAS SDFWE         alsdfjasdf     alsdfjasdf     alsdfjasdf     alsdfjasdf     alsdfjasdf     SDFAS SDFAS   Which would look something like this   SDFAS SDFWE     1. alsdfjasdf     2. alsdfjasdf        3. alsdfjasdf     

Re: [WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?

Hi Marky, > My friend is asking me if i can use tags > > > > No, you can't. Unordered lists can only have list items as child elements. Cheers, Andrew Taumoefolau ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://we

[WSG] be-nice-to-IE/MAC @media rule

Recently I posted a shorter be-nice-to-IE/MAC @media hack to another list. There was an issue with the modified rule (and original rule using the tantek hack) where the rules following the @media declaration were delivered to NN4. I have since developed this one line alternative which ensures on

[WSG] javascript validation question

I'm having trouble getting a page to validate as xhtml 1.0 transitional. http://v4.csavg40.com/csa/preparequote.do It doesn't like this series of javascript stuff It's for a calendar that pops up on an input field. Are there any javascript experts that can tell me how this doesn't live up to s

Re: [WSG] javascript validation question

It's an XHTML issue...here the validation report from BBEdit: Value of attribute “onkeydown” for element “” is invalid; Value needs entity encoding (“if(event.keyCode==9&&self.gfPop)gfPop.fHideCal();”). On 5/10/04 10:12 AM, Ted Drake wrote: I'm having trouble getting a page to validate as xhtml

Re: [WSG] javascript validation question

Ted Drake wrote: I'm having trouble getting a page to validate as xhtml 1.0 transitional. http://v4.csavg40.com/csa/preparequote.do It doesn't like this series of javascript stuff It's for a calendar that pops up on an input field. Are there any javascript experts that can tell me how this doesn

RE: [WSG] javascript validation question

Thanks I also found that I needed to have a space between the properties, 9 && self instead of 9&&self or better yet 9 && self. Thank you for the quick help Ted -Original Message- From: Terrence Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] S

[WSG] PDF to HTML conversions

Hi, The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed the issue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing this problem. Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML or any other ways to make the PDF files accessible. Any thoughts would

Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions

> The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed the > issue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing this > problem. You may be after tagged pdf's: http://www.planetpdf.com/enterprise/article.asp?ContentID=6067 http://www.webaim.org/techniques/acrobat/ (links st

Re: [WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?

On Tuesday, Oct 5, 2004, at 05:33 Australia/Sydney, Manuel González Noriega wrote: Genau Junior wrote: Hello, My friend is asking me if i can use tags No. Make it Long live lists! Close, but no cigar. Make that I love nested lists! But close that li tag! N ;

RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions

Thanks Russ, for the quick reply. The link you sent is quite informative but as Bruce Maguire also believes, do you know of any GOOD PDF to HTML converters ? Regards Bhuvnesh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Tuesday

Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions

Hi Bhuvnesh, I don't know if this may suit your needs, but google's search results for PDF's also provides a html version of the PDF. On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:37:15 +1000, CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed th

Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions

Bhuvnesh, Try this also, http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/support/Training/Online/webdesign/accessibility.html#plugins On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:38:44 +1000, Andrew Ivin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bhuvnesh, > > I don't know if this may suit your needs, but google's search results > for PDF's also pr

Re: [WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?

Yes you can http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html section 10.2 see DEPRECATED EXAMPLE: ~parker On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 05:46:20 +1000, Andrew Sione Taumoefolau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Marky, > > > My friend is asking me if i can use tags > > > > > > > > > > No, you can't. Unorder

Re:_[WSG]_OL_or_UL? _It´s_rigth?

At 05:19 PM 10/4/2004, Parker Torrence wrote: Yes you can http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html section 10.2 see DEPRECATED EXAMPLE: which is: ... Level one, number one... ... Level two, number one... ... Level two, number two... ... Level

[WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

Hi guys,   I'm putting together a semantically correct UL of links for my footer. I'd like to have them separated by 'pipes' as this is a common and easily recognised technique. But the pipes themselves are irrelevant (semantically). So here's what I've come up with...   ALSO! My one thing is

Re: [WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?

On Tuesday, Oct 5, 2004, at 10:19 Australia/Sydney, Parker Torrence wrote: Yes you can http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html section 10.2 see DEPRECATED EXAMPLE: ~parker OK, maybe so... but deprecated means it's not a good idea to use it (just because it 'works' doesn't mean you should).

[WSG] Re: Re:_[WSG]_OL_or_UL? _It´s_rigth?

Thank you everybody. Paul, Torrence, Nick and others . I understood the semantic order. - Original Message - From: "Paul Novitski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Re:_[WSG]_OL_or_UL? _It´s_rigth? > At 05:19 PM 10/4/2004, Park

[WSG] Left and right: inline content...

Hi all. I'm trying to do something which I know is easy with tables, but of course, that's not my first preference. Basically, it's a footer line with an ABN number (for non-Australians, a business registration number) on the left, and an unordered list on the right with validation links, an a

Re: [WSG] Left and right: inline content...

Joshua, Try putting the ABN in a p tag, giving it a width (in ems) and floating it left. You will also need to give your ul a width. It's easier to see what's going on if you give your elements background colours (temporarily). -Hugh Todd Hi all. I'm trying to do something which I know is ea

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

Title: Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links For the line wrapping issue, you could try: whitespace: nowrap; On whatever element is giving you trouble. Cheers, Kevin Futter On 5/10/04 11:28 AM, "Richard Czeiger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys,   I'm putting together a

Re: [WSG] Left and right: inline content...

Hi Joshua, try wrapping the abn in . #footer {clear: both;} #footer p {float:left;} #footer ul {float: right;} #footer li {display:inline;} Joe On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:49:01 +1000, Joshua Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. I'm trying to do something which I know is easy with tables, b

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

Title: Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links Sure but this only works on, like, two browsers! Is there a funckier CSS hack kind of way?   :o) Richard - Original Message - From: Kevin Futter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 12:02 P

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

The method your using looks similar to the one described on A List Apart www.a*list**apart*.com/articles/taming*list*s/ ?? or it could have come from http://glazkov.com/blog/articles/CssPipedList.aspx I have an example at http://hamilton.id.au/temp/pipedlist.html using multiple words per item.

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

Richard See how I display the pipes on the horizontal menu at www.bhatt.id.au using css borders. the list itself has a border-left, and all list items have a border-right Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ -

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

Thanks for the feedback guys but the problem persists ! :o) While Neerav's solution puts pipes before the first and after the last - I am trying to get rid of these so that it looks like this: link | link | link | link and NOT | link | link | link | link | see? Ben's solution requires a sepa

Re: [WSG] be-nice-to-IE/MAC @media rule

Hi Terrence This does indeed look like it could be useful, could you show an example in context? Eg with rules above and below for people like me who need it a little clearer? Thanks so much. Natalie -- Freelance Website Designer/Developer www.pixelkitty.net

[WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

Hi Guys, I have just joined the list after attending WE04. My name is Todd Baker and I work as a XSLT/XHTML/CSS developer in Sydney. I am doing a big CSS based rebuild for one of our clients and am having some troubles with our "fluid" layout. I want to use horizontal lists for our primary nav

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

I have to say I'd use an extra class on the first li over that big chunk o' Javascript any day. Apart from the extra code, what if I have Javascript disabled? My 2c... N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ On Tuesday, Oct 5, 2004, at 13:55 Australia/Sy

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

just a quick thought that may be completely wrong, but have you tried % based padding for ? Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Todd Baker

RE: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

Hi Richard > Ben's solution requires a separate class attached to the > first list item. Again - this is kind of clunky when you're > trying to work with the best possible form of an inherited > cascade. That's why I used the JavaScript to kill the first > LI in each UL in the "footer" - at le

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

Good point - I guess I might settle for Neerav's option and have the pipes at the beginning and the end phooey! wish i could've gotten a solution to that one :o( that's for eveyone's input though... Richard - Original Message - From: "Nick Gleitzman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

Nup - collapses in IE :o( Richard - Original Message - From: "Neerav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists just a quick thought that may be completely wrong, but have you tried % based padding for

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:20:24 +1000, Neerav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just a quick thought that may be completely wrong, but have you tried % > based padding for ? > Thanks Neerav, Same thing.. I have to use VERY small % (like 1%) or it spreads out HUGE and then it hardly expands at all as th

[WSG] Semantics vs Light Code

Recent discussions about building a footer with numerous linked items styled as an unordered list has got me thinking about correct semantics verses light code/css. In using strictly correct semantics to mark-up content I think sometimes we run the risk of developing over complicated and bloated c

RE: [WSG] Semantics vs Light Code

... between each link. Just make sure it's with css and not a pipe :) -Original Message- From: Luke Moulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Semantics vs Light Code Recent discussions about building a footer with nume

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

Todd, If you turn the 'a's into block elements and float them left, adding no padding or border, you can give them widths of 20% and have them span the page. #nav ul li a { padding: .2em 0; display: block; float: left; width: 20%; } Of course, this means you lose your dividers. If you add

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

I did something like that for a project. From memory I ended up using something like this (it had three items): ul { padding:0; margin:0; } li { display: inline; list-style:none; padding:0; margin:0; } a { width:33%; float:left; display:block

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

I've found adding dividers in the form of borders are more trouble than they are worth in liquid horizontal lists. One solution is to put the dividers in as 1px wide background images rather than left or right borders. Jake Quoting Hugh Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Todd, > > If you turn the 'a's

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

Interesting approach... I was trying to use padding/margins as I wanted to ensure that XXX menu itme wasnt as wide as XX if ya know what I mean. Your solution does work but ive lost the variable widths. Ill have a play with it. Yeah the IE min-width thing is a b***ch. Im using the Pr

[WSG] Eric Myer interviewed for Apple Pro website

FYI http://www.apple.com/pro/words/meyer/ -Hugh Todd ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **

Re: [WSG] be-nice-to-IE/MAC @media rule

On Oct 5, 2004, at 13:03, Natalie Buxton wrote: This does indeed look like it could be useful, could you show an example in context? Eg with rules above and below for people like me who need it a little clearer? It should be noted that this technique

Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions

Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdftohtml/ cheers, Chris ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for s

RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions

OminPage is an OCR program. Haven't used it yet, but supposed to convert PDFs to any document type - word, excel, htm, etc, and retain formatting. pretty cheap too, under 1K Lilania Kershaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Bentley S

Re: [WSG] IE 6 Hover Bug?

Daniel Bowling wrote: > I am very confused about a rendering issue in IE 6.02 for an unreleased > beta of my site. > http://beta.danbowling.com/IFRindex.php > For some reason when I mouse over several of my links on the left > sidebar other divs reposition themselves. For example, hovering over t

[WSG] Table-style admin layouts

Hi all, Is there a best-practice way to build an item display with multiple columns, but without using tables? What I want to do is build something like this: Name Price Quantity EditDelete Apple $5.0025 [edit] [delete] Pear $4.00 3 [edit] [

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

If that's what you want then can't you just move the padding to the a rather than the li, it won't actiually make the nav bar go all the way across (you can make it look like it does though), but it will make it get change width when the windows does. Jake Quoting Todd Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Re: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

Theres no such thing as a dumb question! Heres a tip, semantic code means using tags for the purpose they are meant to be used for eg: to for headings, for unordered lists and in your case for tabular data: Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61

Re: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

It's tabular data, so you should use a table. It displays reliably, it's semantically correct and if implemented correctly it's usable for screen readers. It's best to use all of the semantic table elements (th, tbody, thead, summary, caption) if you can. Jake Quoting Ryan Sabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

Hi Ryan, This isn't a dumb question, and is one that people often get confused about when moving towards web standards. While the correct way of presenting data like this in tables, it's more important to do it correctly. That means using the right (symantically correct) tags. Anyway, in a nut s

RE: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

Ryan, this is tabular data, just what tables are built for. Go for it! Grant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan Sabir Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts Hi all, Is there

Re: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

On 10/4/04 11:22 PM "Ryan Sabir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out: > Name Price Quantity EditDelete > Apple $5.0025 [edit] [delete] > Pear $4.00 3 [edit] [delete] > Banana $12.00 5 [edit] [delete] > > But without cluttering

RE: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

>> Is there a best-practice way to build an item >> display with multiple columns, but without using tables?   >> Name Price Quantity Edit    Delete>> Apple $5.00    25   [edit]  [delete]>> Pear  $4.00 3   [edit]  [delete]>> Banana   $12.00

[WSG] XHTML external links

Hi guys - having a little problem with the whole external links in XHTML strict. Code's below - doesn't seem to be working - can you help out? http://www.google.com.au/"; rel="external">new window function externalLinks() if (!document.getElementsByTagName) return; var anchors = document

Re: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

At 11:22 PM 10/4/2004, Ryan Sabir wrote: Is there a best-practice way to build an item display with multiple columns, but without using tables? What I want to do is build something like this: Name Price Quantity EditDelete Apple $5.0025 [edit] [delete] Pear $

Re: [WSG] Table-style admin layouts

At 07:48 on Tuesday, 05 Oct 2004, Peter Ottery wrote: Is there a best-practice way to build an item display with multiple columns, but without using tables? Name Price Quantity EditDelete Apple $5.0025 [edit] [delete] Pear $4.00 3 [edit] [dele