[313] Only a few . . . . . .
. . . . . will understand, and appreciate what's about to happen! http://mocradio.com/radio/clubl.ram or A HREF=mocradio.com/radio/clubl.ramclick here/A! Holla back! DJ Mudfoot
RE: [313] Post-disco major label artists
For those of you who wanna know, some insight: Blaze : 25 years later / 1992/Motown Track listing Street Corner Get Up The Prayer So Special The Fight Miss My Love You Don't Really Love Me Street Walker Any Thing For Yo The Dream We All Must Live Tog The Window I Wonder The Bombing Gonna Make It Work Confessions All That I Should Missing You The Acceptance Lover Man The Cab Love Is Forever Broad Market NWK The Conclusion The Hope Song The album didn't sell, because was included in their contrat no promo- no marketing, artists will, that lead to one member of the group Chris Herbert leaving ( he was not agree on the strategy of Kevin and Josh)! From the horse's mouth of Timmy (a Dj resident at Shelter) don't know if it's true or not but Timmy knows Kevin for sure, as Kevin is the boss of Shelter , I know also that some so called well known journalits :-) have tried for ages to interview them, no chance... ..All in all for what I heard Blaze are now in the process of deciding to enter into the field of becoming a music distribution company, where they will give music producers of today a better deal as regards to promotion, publishing rights and their own record label. But we'll have to wait but another issue for them in New-York is MAW...! they got their mafia, clique there too :-)..! And the nightmare still goes on...! do you know that ? remixes of their songs are starting to multiply. Last year we had Farley and Heller via the group called Fire Island, UK remixed and revamp an old classic their's called If I should need a friend. Another old classic of their's is Moonwalk which has been given the same treatment by the group called Nuphonic. And finally we saw the Deep Dish Boys take the original Blaze song Hideaway and made it into probably the biggest dance (garage ?) track of last year ! |-Original Message- |From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:49 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: [313] Post-disco major label artists | | |That's too bad about Motown, cuz Blaze is a totally mass marketable |commodity IMO. And it most certainly HAD been done well at Motown |for many |a year. Again, Tata Vega, Teena Marie, The Originals were all on Motown |releasing dance singles and now Blazewhich I wasn't aware of. | |curious to know what the problem was..more than likely lack of |radio play to |substantiate? What might you've heard Otto?? | |Also, I was just reminded that Lil Louis, released on Epic dance, |came just |after Inner City's success. Does anyone know how well his products |performed or his history with Epic? | |What about Fantasy Records, which dance artists have they signed/released |since Cybotron ?? C'mon playas...let's get on down with this |discussion... | | |From: Otto [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: 313 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: [313] House / techno popularity |Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 20:00:35 +0100 | |laura gavoor wrote: | | Giles...you read my mind!!! I stil CANNOT fathom why A the |fabulous | Blaze tracks from Funky People to Another Dae to Can You Dance to |My | Beat and on and on...all song based house compositions COULD |NOT, | WOULD NOT be considered commerically viable in America...they MUST |be | black and independently based, eh? | | No one can tell me that there haven't been innumerable house anthems to | follow up Good Life and Big Fun that could've garnered a fat label deal | (providing the artist didn't want to sign to a major as an artist) or |artist | dealand sold millions. | |Well, at one point Blaze were signed to Motown, but I don't know why |that didn't take off as it should have. | |All I know is that as a contender for best house/garage track ever, |'Elevation' is pretty hard to beat. | |Otto | | | |- |To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |_ |Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com | | |- |To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] UR Inspiration
I think the sound quality on the clip may be average, therefore you won't hear all of the elements clearly.. I really doubt there going to record the clip in high quality sound, it's a teaser... People need to keep in mind you only hear about 15-20 seconds of the song... and I like what I've heard so far... ~Erin yussel: I'm hoping its just the poor audio quality, but it really just sounds simple to me. I thought the strigs were obvious, and I eagerly awaited a good hook when the beat came in, and it just wasn't there. Like I said, I have a feeling it might just be the poor quality. But based on what I heard (what else could I base it on), I'd probably leave it alone. it doesn't do anything for you? that's cool, each to their own innit. as you say it is a short clip with fairly average sound quality. simple, obvious... yeah, maybe... but i prefer to think of those elements as clean, classic UR. you think there's no hook, i disagree. even from the clip, it sounds like *such* an uplifting track. i can't wait to get my mits on a copy. things have seemed so flat lately... a new UR record, and a good one at that, is just what's needed! :) rob _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] touch:mar 07:misstress barbara:derek plaslaiko
- Original Message - From: Barbara Deyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: [313] touch:mar 07:misstress barbara:derek plaslaiko :coming up: :mar 14: dave holland :mar 21: disco nouveau release party :mar 28: dan bell [first detroit dj set in 5 years] These necto nights look generally great, you guys are doing great stuff! But Dan Bell played a short set at the end of the 7th City party at DEMF 2 (and Necto isn't in Detroit). ;p Tristan -- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FS: Records on eBay
1 Day left on some of my auctions and just put some others on-line... Records from K. Hand, Fanon Flowers, Terrence Dixon , Lester Fitzpatrick and others... http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsuserid=escucciminclude=0since=-1sort=2rows=25 If you are interested please take a look at my complete for sale list at http://www.skooch.com/ForSale.cfm. Thanks, Eric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Regarding Business
yeah, i think a lot of people are forgetting that there are plenty of newer artist who do better with each release. just because juan or any of the old guard are having problems doesn't mean that al is lost. you shouldn't judge the strength of the scene by the career of the guys who did it fifteen years ago. Look at the people wo are doing it now. On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Neontsetse wrote: The fact that they don't do it for techno... *shrug*... Their loss. It gives us the chance to do it our way. And the fact that we've succeeded so far pretty much without them... it pisses them off to no end. I like :) Otto yeah, keep em behind - all the hard working independent labels and artists will rise and rise and rise above the business machines soon Detroit techno labels will be even more succssfull, independent and many will be owned by briliant artists, many of them being black making highest quality music - that?s what I call good business making it happen, though no one would have seen this happen when it started full strike get of our back with any programmed vision how business works or should work and we still can blame the other?s, waiting for the bigger succes to step in then for making the quick buck?s buck off - Detroit techno shows us, what we want it to be like this is why this list is here DETROIT RISE - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New York City 3/19-3/24
DAMN! who's playing on that bill? also, i'm pretty sure the nyc disco nouveau release party is around that time... www.ghostly.com On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, J. T. wrote: for house try body and soul at vinyl on sunday from 6pm till 12midnight. also bang the party at frank's lounge in fort greene, brooklyn on friday for raw underground den haag electro/disco, the bunker tour will be in nyc either 3/19 or 3/17, playing at the tribeca hotel church ballroom... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New York City 3/19-3/24
DAMN! who's playing on that bill? the bunker tour consists of legowelt (live) orgue electronique (live) tlr (dj'ing) schmerzlabor (dj'ing) also, i'm pretty sure the nyc disco nouveau release party is around that time... www.ghostly.com On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, J. T. wrote: for house try body and soul at vinyl on sunday from 6pm till 12midnight. also bang the party at frank's lounge in fort greene, brooklyn on friday for raw underground den haag electro/disco, the bunker tour will be in nyc either 3/19 or 3/17, playing at the tribeca hotel church ballroom... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] oncetwice festival (ot)
Well, considering our Greg Malcolm is playing it COULD be on topic;) see you there. http://www.oncetwicesound.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] oncetwice festival (ot)
Would that be the Greg that I met at Sonar last year in the Mille Plateux area? He had a DEMF t-shirt on and I think he was from Califiornia. If that Greg was you then speak up. Scott M - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:45 AM Subject: [313] oncetwice festival (ot) Well, considering our Greg Malcolm is playing it COULD be on topic;) see you there. http://www.oncetwicesound.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] oncetwice festival (ot)
sorry. no not Greg Earle. I meant Malcolm...as in 'twine'. --- s mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would that be the Greg that I met at Sonar last year in the Mille Plateux area? He had a DEMF t-shirt on and I think he was from Califiornia. If that Greg was you then speak up. Scott M - Original Message - From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:45 AM Subject: [313] oncetwice festival (ot) Well, considering our Greg Malcolm is playing it COULD be on topic;) see you there. http://www.oncetwicesound.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Regarding Business
no no no correction: this was not written for the use against any one of the originators and artists from Detroit as Mr Atkins, I was not saying that, no way, - Juan Atkins is the father of this music. He created this. - His Music is absolutely oustanding His label is one of the best labels in the scene and it´s not 15 years ago what the hell are you talking bout ? When he want´s to move to another level and he is scanning the justice of the music-industry by experience, by having created the ground for a scene before - it´s something completly different to what my statement was about. it was about the robot-kind-of-business-men-philosophy, ONLY being about business, as I was responding to the communication between Otto and Big Loada and that was about a different state of mind. I was answering to the statement - business first and music second - and yes giving special props to them staying independent cauze it´s a long way to go and some failed before reaching the goal and don´t deny that and what that can mean, how hard this can be. it is about surviving too - Mr Juan Atkins is a part of the scene whatever he also is fighting for now and whereever he is living this is his life and only because he is talking about business aspects and is involved with bigger business that doesn´t mean it´s his main subject - his quotes make sense to me (as far as the xlr8r interview for example was correct) and people can learn from it. That doesn´t proove them wrong, taking another route. Some things he is explaining seem to proove them but all people of the scene who made this happen, because they were about music first and then the business they deserve my full respect and get it. who am I to say anything else ? so don´t use my words for your own moral concept when your going to judge prooved outstanding artists I was not talking about this point of view though I will not reject your opinion for yourself but don´t play the artists against each other because I think there are other really shady people already calculating with this for some business, some big events ... yeah, i think a lot of people are forgetting that there are plenty of newer artist who do better with each release. just because juan or any of the old guard are having problems doesn't mean that al is lost. you shouldn't judge the strength of the scene by the career of the guys who did it fifteen years ago. Look at the people wo are doing it now. On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Neontsetse wrote: The fact that they don't do it for techno... *shrug*... Their loss. It gives us the chance to do it our way. And the fact that we've succeeded so far pretty much without them... it pisses them off to no end. I like :) Otto yeah, keep em behind - all the hard working independent labels and artists will rise and rise and rise above the business machines soon Detroit techno labels will be even more succssfull, independent and many will be owned by briliant artists, many of them being black making highest quality music - that´s what I call good business making it happen, though no one would have seen this happen when it started full strike get of our back with any programmed vision how business works or should work and we still can blame the other´s, waiting for the bigger succes to step in then for making the quick buck´s buck off - Detroit techno shows us, what we want it to be like this is why this list is here DETROIT RISE - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] mike grant
how's mike grant's form these days? thanx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] can you feel it...
hardly needs mentioning, but there's also the trax 'vocal' release with the 'in the beginning there was jack' speech. i recently found (but haven't listend to) a jack trax release (jtx-4) that has: can you feel it remix (5.30) washing machine remix (3.50 amnesia mystery of love is this remix yet another mix? btw. the amnesia album/double pack has been rereleaed. they have it at juno.com.uk james www.jbucknell.com From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:40:48 - To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] can you feel it... bought the best of robert owens...love will find a way cd over the weekend. worth the moneys...lots of great tracks..but cant listen to it all in one listen.. there only so many r.o's urrrggs one can listen to before it annoys.. but...it contained a vocal version or can you feel it. how may versions is there out there 1 original 2 the one with the I have a dream speech 3 robert owens 4 I think there ones with a Gil Scott Heron 'rap' too - War (is very ugly) still sends shivers up my spine when that first cymbal ride comes inbliss.. rav - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] mike grant
mike grant is playin' in sydney on thurs. 28th march. form follows function, philip! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:03 PM Subject: [313] mike grant how's mike grant's form these days? thanx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] mike grant
does anybody have the dates for the other cities of australia? - Original Message - From: james bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [313] mike grant mike grant is playin' in sydney on thurs. 28th march. form follows function, philip! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:03 PM Subject: [313] mike grant how's mike grant's form these days? thanx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] PM photos
Just wondering if there is a website with all the photos from that exhibition featuring Mills' hands, some of which appeared on the Purpose Maker comp. sleevenotes. Or just info\website on the photographer would suffice. Thanks. Respect JasonB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Post-disco major label artists
Some other interesting titbits about Blaze ... An outfit called Phase II in the late 80s/early 90s, had substantially the same members - some of you might remember: 'It's A Mystery': Love is the question that goes thru my mind, you have the answers I may never find A less beaty, more paradise-garagey version appeared on a compilation called 'Paradise Regained' which I think came out in 1988 (?) on Republic records, in collaboration with Dave Lee (who one could say is a well-known 'Brit Fad freak', but I wouldn't dream of it ;o). The rest of the tracks were mostly by Blaze under different names. I can post details Weds. Josh Milan and Kevin Hedge worked with the Pet Shop Boys on their 'Introspective' Mini-album released in 1988. Josh Milan played keyboards on 'I Want A Dog'; I think both provided 'additional production'. I've come across the names Hedge, Milan, Herbert so often on 'anonymous' disco-house records from the early '90s, I've almost stopped noticing. The '25 years Later' LP therefore was a very big revelation and it still puzzles me how so much lyrical, musical and conceptual talent is still so hidden, 14 years later. Ken -Original Message- From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:16 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Post-disco major label artists For those of you who wanna know, some insight: Blaze : 25 years later / 1992/Motown Track listing Street Corner Get Up The Prayer So Special The Fight Miss My Love You Don't Really Love Me Street Walker Any Thing For Yo The Dream We All Must Live Tog The Window I Wonder The Bombing Gonna Make It Work Confessions All That I Should Missing You The Acceptance Lover Man The Cab Love Is Forever Broad Market NWK The Conclusion The Hope Song The album didn't sell, because was included in their contrat no promo- no marketing, artists will, that lead to one member of the group Chris Herbert leaving ( he was not agree on the strategy of Kevin and Josh)! From the horse's mouth of Timmy (a Dj resident at Shelter) don't know if it's true or not but Timmy knows Kevin for sure, as Kevin is the boss of Shelter , I know also that some so called well known journalits :-) have tried for ages to interview them, no chance... ..All in all for what I heard Blaze are now in the process of deciding to enter into the field of becoming a music distribution company, where they will give music producers of today a better deal as regards to promotion, publishing rights and their own record label. But we'll have to wait but another issue for them in New-York is MAW...! they got their mafia, clique there too :-)..! And the nightmare still goes on...! do you know that ? remixes of their songs are starting to multiply. Last year we had Farley and Heller via the group called Fire Island, UK remixed and revamp an old classic their's called If I should need a friend. Another old classic of their's is Moonwalk which has been given the same treatment by the group called Nuphonic. And finally we saw the Deep Dish Boys take the original Blaze song Hideaway and made it into probably the biggest dance (garage ?) track of last year ! |-Original Message- |From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:49 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: [313] Post-disco major label artists | | |That's too bad about Motown, cuz Blaze is a totally mass marketable |commodity IMO. And it most certainly HAD been done well at Motown |for many |a year. Again, Tata Vega, Teena Marie, The Originals were all on Motown |releasing dance singles and now Blazewhich I wasn't aware of. | |curious to know what the problem was..more than likely lack of |radio play to |substantiate? What might you've heard Otto?? | |Also, I was just reminded that Lil Louis, released on Epic dance, |came just |after Inner City's success. Does anyone know how well his products |performed or his history with Epic? | |What about Fantasy Records, which dance artists have they signed/released |since Cybotron ?? C'mon playas...let's get on down with this |discussion... | | |From: Otto [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: 313 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: [313] House / techno popularity |Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 20:00:35 +0100 | |laura gavoor wrote: | | Giles...you read my mind!!! I stil CANNOT fathom why A the |fabulous | Blaze tracks from Funky People to Another Dae to Can You Dance to |My | Beat and on and on...all song based house compositions COULD |NOT, | WOULD NOT be considered commerically viable in America...they MUST |be | black and independently based, eh? | | No one can tell me that there haven't been innumerable house anthems to | follow up Good Life and Big Fun that could've garnered a fat label deal | (providing the artist didn't want to sign to a major as an artist) or |artist | dealand sold millions. | |Well, at one point Blaze were signed to Motown, but I
[313] and again... Records for sale
Hello all, I have a little list of records that I am selling. Most of them are super limited! The sale of the following is by auction. Private mails with your bid only please...Stating what you are after... Also for more information like if they are coloured vinyl, sealed or anything else you want to ask just mail me. All of the following are on vinyl. Want CD instead? * denotes CD or VINYL Artist Title Label/Cat Condition Level A and DJ T1-000 Nikita Generator/Gen3.5 Mint FUSE Dimension Intrusion Plus8/+8024 Mint/Sealed Nightmares on Wax Smokers Delight Warp/WAPLP36 Mint Nightmares on Wax DextrousWarp/WAP2 Excellent POD * VanguardBuzz/bzzxl106092 Excellent From our minds- to yours Vol.2 Plus8/+8022 Mint/Green Vinyl John Beltran Earth Nightfall R S/rs95072 Mint Panic in Detroit *S/T Buzz/bzzlp106107 Excellent uk: enter001 Virtual Sex * S/T Buzz/bzz21 Excellent/Glasses GAK1-4 Warp/WAP48Mint Edge of Motion Galaxy Child100%Pure/PURE22LTDMint AniLove is the message Prescription/PRES105 Mint/Sealed Agenda21 *An Eevo Lute Comp. EEVOLP1 Excellent NB. You have to meet the reserve price. Thank you Lee Grainge - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT search for label
Hi all, Sorry for the OT self-promotion, this will only happen once and I apologize in advance. Since there are not many record labels in Spain, and we don't have one of our own (yet), my partner and I were considering the posibility of releasing some of our music in record labels from around the world. Once again, sorry, but it feels really bad to see your tracks gather dust and I can't think of a better place than this to give it a try. Right now we have about 30 or so unreleased tracks that range from house to techno, all of them produced in the last 4 or 5 months. If any of you is interested, you can check out some of our previously released productions. A list with some of them below: LabelRef.Artist Title Dist.Year Options01 Xpansul Daweed Xpansul DaweedPrime 2001 Audiodrome 06 ErgotErgot Prime 2000 Audiodrome 11 Ergot DaweedErgot meets Daweed Prime 2001 Isoghi 01 Backspin Boyz Backspin's Back Prime 2001 Complex 01 Unknown Introspection E.P. Integrale2000 Syl:Label 03 The Crawl-crew Crawl E.P.Integrale2000 Grauertag 01 Various--- Atlas 2002(forthcoming) So, as I said, If you run a label and have an interest and a serious chance to consider publishing any of the new tracks or colaborate in any matter, feel free to contact me privately so I can send a demo cd. Thanks a lot David (daweed)
Re: [313] UR Inspiration
any thoughts on the new UR (http://www.submerge.com/intro/INSPIRATION.html)? I would like it, except it fades in... ;-) (sorry, couldn't resist). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND it fades out!!! Sacrillege- burn the heretic!! Jason Brunton Iridite - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Charles Siegling / Claude Young...
also claude young played his own remix of technasia's force last week in leeds. that should be out soon. cracking. NICE!!! Should be interesting to say the least...one of my favorites remixing another of my favorites:) Laters, m*drooling* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Portal
and yes i am aware the paradise garage and studio 54 (and the warehouse?) were alcohol free Pete kinda beat me to it, but here is what I think he meant to say;-) : Here in NYC the original Sound Factory and Shelter were also alcohol free. Vinyl (home to Body and Soul, DT's Be Yourself @ Vinyl, as well as being the old Shelter) is still alcohol free - though not by choice our former dictator Bennito Giulinani helped them to make that choice;-) Any other famous booze-less clubs around the world? Intrigued, m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Portal
and yes i am aware the paradise garage and studio 54 (and the warehouse?) were alcohol free Pete kinda beat me to it, but here is what I think he meant to say;-) : Here in NYC the original Sound Factory and Shelter were also alcohol free. Vinyl (home to Body and Soul, DT's Be Yourself @ Vinyl, as well as being the old Shelter) is still alcohol free - though not by choice our former dictator Bennito Giulinani helped them to make that choice;-) Any other famous booze-less clubs around the world? Any club would be boozeless after a visit from me, Otto and Marsel!! Jason Brunton Iridite Intrigued, m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Portal
When I watched Pump Up The Volume, it did say that Paradise served non-alcholic drinks but once in a while they would spike the punch. Yeah but with LSD or MDA, not booze;-) m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] KMS and Carl in NYC....
Friday March 15th @ Club Shelter Carl Craig and KMS upstairs... Jef K and Paul Slater downstairs... Just a little advance warning to 212-313 peeps, if you haven't heard already. Getting very excited, m* _ Mark S. Krüx Cel - 917.817.3989 DJ / Photographer Fax - 877.485.3477 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] was - can you feel it... now GSH
We Almost Lost Detroit was ostensibly about the 1966 accident at the Fermi experimental nuclear reactor in Monroe County. Of course, you could also interpret it to mean something about other events of the time. Gil Scott-Heron's father, Giles, was from Jamaica originally and was a renowed football (er, soccer) player in Canada, the US and the UK. He played for the Detroit Corinthians in the early 1950s. Sadly, Gil himself was sentenced to a serious jail term after not sticking with a rehab agreement last November. Not surprisingly, this all started with a bust on sus as they say in the UK. Whatever else you can say about jail, it's not a place to get well, but that is where the judge felt he had to go, and maybe that was the least bad of several very serious alternatives. All I can say is it's a blessing to this tired old world to have someone of his talent still going, and let's hope we see him soon, better and happier and more ready to raise his voice again. You can tell from his interviews that he's still alert and as free a thinker as ever. http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,357680,00.html http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0129/gray.php http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/story/0,3604,593501,00.html http://www.canongate.net/payback/pbp.taf?_n=4 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] was - can you feel it... now GSH
We Almost Lost Detroit was ostensibly about the 1966 accident at the Fermi experimental nuclear reactor in Monroe County. Of course, you could also interpret it to mean something about other events of the time. Gil Scott-Heron's father, Giles, was from Jamaica originally and was a renowed football (er, soccer) player in Canada, the US and the UK. He played for the Detroit Corinthians in the early 1950s. He was the first black player to play for Glasgow Celtic- I used to work beside a contemporary of his who played for the other side (Glasgow Rangers) who described him as a perfect gentleman and a cracking player Sadly, Gil himself was sentenced to a serious jail term after not sticking with a rehab agreement last November. Not surprisingly, this all started with a bust on sus as they say in the UK. Whatever else you can say about jail, it's not a place to get well, but that is where the judge felt he had to go, and maybe that was the least bad of several very serious alternatives. All I can say is it's a blessing to this tired old world to have someone of his talent still going, and let's hope we see him soon, better and happier and more ready to raise his voice again. You can tell from his interviews that he's still alert and as free a thinker as ever. Damn straight! Jason Brunton Iridite http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,357680,00.html http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0129/gray.php http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/story/0,3604,593501,00.html http://www.canongate.net/payback/pbp.taf?_n=4 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Alcohol-free / Hawtin review...
it's funny isn't it but i suspect a booze-less club over here would immediately arouse the suspicions of the authorities... a cultural difference i guess Ohh but they do... one of the drawbacks of going to DT's Friday night party, and there are quite few these days unfortunately, is that there are always a few undercover cops cruising around trying to spot dealers. Not to mention the paranoid bouncers who routinely throw innocent people out because they were thought to be doing some sort of drug. Any club with no booze is automatically suspected of heavy drug 'infiltration'and those suspicions are generally spot on, for better or worse. Honestly I'd rather be in a club where people (not candi-ravers;) are on e than a club rammed with drunks. I went to the Tronic party at Baktun tonight and danced to Richie Hawtin, Magda, and Miss Honey Dijon until 4AM...only problem was the number of idiots from parts unknown who got pissed, sweaty, jumped around at what they perceived to be an appropriate moment, SLAMMED into unsuspecting punters constantly AND stepped on people's feet whilst they were dancing. I just got finished cleaning my Nikes and am decidedly in an anti-booze mood just now;-) I am a drinker, but being totally inconsiderate of one's fellow revelers is never cool imho. Laters, m* btw...first hour of Hawtin's set kinda bored me but the second got a little housier and more interesting. Magda rocked it as usual! Honey really surprised me and played really hard, impressive. Was surprised to notice Richie using the same laptop (Sony VAIO) I use and love! - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark S Flintoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [313] Portal robin... and yes i am aware the paradise garage and studio 54 (and the warehouse?) were alcohol free Pete kinda beat me to it, but here is what I think he meant to say;-) : Here in NYC the original Sound Factory and Shelter were also alcohol free. Vinyl (home to Body and Soul, DT's Be Yourself @ Vinyl, as well as being the old Shelter) is still alcohol free - though not by choice our former dictator Bennito Giulinani helped them to make that choice;-) Any other famous booze-less clubs around the world? Intrigued, m* robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] was - can you feel it... now GSH
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Gil's dad was the first ever black professional player on these shores (I think) He played for Celtic. My Grandad says he was an inside right, and a pretty handy one at that, he remembers him well. Cool family.! Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/03/2002 10:35:36 To:313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject:Re: [313] was - can you feel it... now GSH We Almost Lost Detroit was ostensibly about the 1966 accident at the Fermi experimental nuclear reactor in Monroe County. Of course, you could also interpret it to mean something about other events of the time. Gil Scott-Heron's father, Giles, was from Jamaica originally and was a renowed football (er, soccer) player in Canada, the US and the UK. He played for the Detroit Corinthians in the early 1950s. Sadly, Gil himself was sentenced to a serious jail term after not sticking with a rehab agreement last November. Not surprisingly, this all started with a bust on sus as they say in the UK. Whatever else you can say about jail, it's not a place to get well, but that is where the judge felt he had to go, and maybe that was the least bad of several very serious alternatives. All I can say is it's a blessing to this tired old world to have someone of his talent still going, and let's hope we see him soon, better and happier and more ready to raise his voice again. You can tell from his interviews that he's still alert and as free a thinker as ever. http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,357680,00.html http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0129/gray.php http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/story/0,3604,593501,00.html http://www.canongate.net/payback/pbp.taf?_n=4 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] mike grant
melb is march 31. - Original Message - From: james bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: james bond [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [313] mike grant does anybody have the dates for the other cities of australia? - Original Message - From: james bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [313] mike grant mike grant is playin' in sydney on thurs. 28th march. form follows function, philip! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:03 PM Subject: [313] mike grant how's mike grant's form these days? thanx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Portal
I know of a certain venue in Manchester, UK who were forced to serve alcohol because the icepops and evian image got them in trouble with the police and a reputation for being a 'problem' club. -- Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:36:53 -0500 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kyle J Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Portal Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wow, an alcohol free venue...that just wouldn't survive over here (which is more the pity really)...interesting and yes i am aware the paradise garage and studio 54 (and the warehouse?) were alcohol free PG So is Vinyl in NYC where the infamouse Body and Soul party resides. It's also home to the weekly Danny Tenaglia party. The no alcohol rule keeps all the drunk bridge and tunnel arses out. Great idea there should be more venues like this. --
Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!
France was only hauled out of musical obscurity in the 90's thru UK label managers and the music press 'discovering' Daft Punk et al, Garnier is known because he played the Hacienda, otherwise they were never supported in their home country. Jacques Lu Cont of Les Rythmes Digitales is actually English - and rode on the crest of this french touch mania in England. Paradoxically UK techno DJs and producers tend to be passed over in the UK in favour of international players and are appreciated more in mainstream Europe. -- Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 13:37:30 -0500 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: glyph1001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I feel to many Americans, movements would seem more exotic, 'cooler', and unique' if it came from the UK. Its just the way it is, I guess. g. Dan Sicko wrote: Speaking to the Why SD and not Juan? issue directly, I'd just like to offer up the strange infatuation the US media holds for UK pop culture exports (I know this term is a bit of the large blanket variety) ... I think often times a movement seems that much more legitimate to the US (and I mean the lowest common denominator US) when it comes back to us through a UK prism. Inferiority complex? Just another obstacle to overcome? -d ::Sarah North:: DV2 / 119 Avenue de Flandre / 75019 / Paris / France Tel 0033 (0)1 44 72 09 21 / Fax 0033 (0)1 4472 09 65 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] crazy.....
i was just lookin at ebay and some dude has gone loco selling a pretty impressive collection of rare detroit, chicago, aphex and black dog type stuff. Pretty impressive but very expensive: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsuserid=simondoein clude=0since=-1sort=2rows=25 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Bjorn Torske
JT: ...the bjorn torske stuff is still very nice as well, i've seen him do a few more releases over the years since then but i dont remember them being too appetizing..??... It's all about Krisp - 'Footnotes' !! (on the Love OD label) Don't know how many times I've played it and it doesn't get boring. I've never heard his Ismistik releases on Djax though? Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] paging Scott Braithwaite
anyone can give me his e-mail adress? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] touch:mar 07:misstress barbara:derek plaslaiko
to bad this statement is wrong, Sorry but Dan played for us three years ago (12-11-99) Series A-A Sean :mar 28: dan bell [first detroit dj set in 5 years] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] touch:mar 07:misstress barbara:derek plaslaiko
in defense of barbara: this statement came from the man himself, as he approached me about performing. apologies if we reported it erroneously. any other complaints? email me privately. thanks! rob -Original Message- From: Hodgson I, Sean (S.R.) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:46 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org; 'Barbara Deyo' Subject: RE: [313] touch:mar 07:misstress barbara:derek plaslaiko to bad this statement is wrong, Sorry but Dan played for us three years ago (12-11-99) Series A-A Sean :mar 28: dan bell [first detroit dj set in 5 years] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] so very. very far OT... m300
Hey Im thinking about buying a m500 palm pilot. Any other gadgets with techno related names... There must be something called X103 out there...Humour me Rav - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] so very. very far OT... m300
Hey Im thinking about buying a m500 palm pilot. Any other gadgets with techno related names... There must be something called X103 out there...Humour me I know IBM had a AS/400 Server which was called a model 500 which made made me really happy :) Agfa had a copier called X303 I do need some help i am mentali ill i think :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] so very. very far OT... m300
I have a cheap robot-dog-toy called TEKKNO looks ok, but you shouldn´t switch it on the sounds are not techno they are like neo wave plastic (quadro spacing rules :D) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE:[313] so very. very far OT... m300
Well the 1000ml MX-X103 Juicer is a must for any true techno head who wants to combat all those late nights out at parties with a good healthy vitamin injection. :) http://www.national.co.jp/product/hhc/cook/juice/syousai/mx_x103/ ___ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] RE:[313] so very. very far OT... m300
How about the 'Cybersonic' toothbrush? :) http://www.sonictoothbrush.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:37 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] RE:[313] so very. very far OT... m300 Well the 1000ml MX-X103 Juicer is a must for any true techno head who wants to combat all those late nights out at parties with a good healthy vitamin injection. :) http://www.national.co.jp/product/hhc/cook/juice/syousai/mx_x103/ ___ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE:[313] so very. very far OT... m300
This one made me chuckle, though I can see this thread getting silly :) http://www.madmikes.com/ ___ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] BBC2 Room 101 Detroit reference
Some of the UK 313'ers might have seen BBC2's Room 101 with the legendary John Peel last night. Apparently he mentioned Jeff Mills? Anyone who saw it care to enlighten us?
[313] insights.
regards to all u 313s. i want to write a little article to my magazine it will be about what i see as something new. the uprise of the more melodic and soft techno, i feel that alot of people are getting tired of the loops techno. if any of you have anything smart to say i really want to hear it:) Yair. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] BBC2 Room 101 Detroit reference
Toby Frith wrote: Some of the UK 313'ers might have seen BBC2's Room 101 with the legendary John Peel last night. Apparently he mentioned Jeff Mills? Anyone who saw it care to enlighten us? Yeh, he did, but it was a very passing reference. Peely was talking about an awful photo of himself taken at Sonar with his arm around Mills, who he said was a fantastic DJ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Regarding Business
easy there... I think i'm still refering back to the original statements that started this entire thread of discussion last week. your comments simply prompted some new ideas of my own. i personally respect juan as well. at least, i respect the stuff he did. and the vast majority of that stuff was between 85-90 (approx: 15 years). Nor do I disrespect him now. although i'll admit to have a hard time 'respecting' someone with the questionable work ethic (missing gigs) and questionable other ethics (demf commitee), but none of this is the point of the arguement. All I'm trying to address is the fact that this entire debate (and all the threads that started with Laura's original tirade) have almost exclusivly addressed older artist (Juan Atkins, Lil Louis...)and what 'could' have been. There are plenty of good underground artist who have had prosperous and creative careers since the first wave hit its peak. A great example would be Felix Da Housecat. Here's a guy who released his first record (Phantasy Girl) in 1987. His carer went up and down, and he is just now 'breaking-out' with his current record. And he's doing it on an indie label 'Emperor Norton' The point is, there are ways for artist to prosper, parallel to the same industry that supports 'mainstream' acts like Sasha and Digweed (who still aren't that mainstream- my dave matthews listening brother has never heard of them) that is all. On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, neon tse tse wrote: no no no correction: this was not written for the use against any one of the originators and artists from Detroit as Mr Atkins, I was not saying that, no way, - Juan Atkins is the father of this music. He created this. - His Music is absolutely oustanding His label is one of the best labels in the scene and it?s not 15 years ago what the hell are you talking bout ? When he want?s to move to another level and he is scanning the justice of the music-industry by experience, by having created the ground for a scene before - it?s something completly different to what my statement was about. it was about the robot-kind-of-business-men-philosophy, ONLY being about business, as I was responding to the communication between Otto and Big Loada and that was about a different state of mind. I was answering to the statement - business first and music second - and yes giving special props to them staying independent cauze it?s a long way to go and some failed before reaching the goal and don?t deny that and what that can mean, how hard this can be. it is about surviving too - Mr Juan Atkins is a part of the scene whatever he also is fighting for now and whereever he is living this is his life and only because he is talking about business aspects and is involved with bigger business that doesn?t mean it?s his main subject - his quotes make sense to me (as far as the xlr8r interview for example was correct) and people can learn from it. That doesn?t proove them wrong, taking another route. Some things he is explaining seem to proove them but all people of the scene who made this happen, because they were about music first and then the business they deserve my full respect and get it. who am I to say anything else ? so don?t use my words for your own moral concept when your going to judge prooved outstanding artists I was not talking about this point of view though I will not reject your opinion for yourself but don?t play the artists against each other because I think there are other really shady people already calculating with this for some business, some big events ... yeah, i think a lot of people are forgetting that there are plenty of newer artist who do better with each release. just because juan or any of the old guard are having problems doesn't mean that al is lost. you shouldn't judge the strength of the scene by the career of the guys who did it fifteen years ago. Look at the people wo are doing it now. On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Neontsetse wrote: The fact that they don't do it for techno... *shrug*... Their loss. It gives us the chance to do it our way. And the fact that we've succeeded so far pretty much without them... it pisses them off to no end. I like :) Otto yeah, keep em behind - all the hard working independent labels and artists will rise and rise and rise above the business machines soon Detroit techno labels will be even more succssfull, independent and many will be owned by briliant artists, many of them being black making highest quality music - that?s what I call good business making it happen, though no one would have seen this happen when it started full strike get of our back with any programmed vision how business works or should work and we still can blame the other?s, waiting for the bigger succes to step in then for making the quick buck?s buck off - Detroit techno shows us, what we want it to
[313] Mills Peel - the dirty truth revealed on UK TV
Anybody in the UK see 'Room 101' on BBC2 last night? For those that don't know it, the show is all about well-known people talking about their pet hates in an effort to persuade the presenter (Paul Merton) to consign them to oblivion in the imaginary Room 101. Anyway, last night John Peel was the guest celebrity and at one stage he was talking about - and I forget why - beards. What he said went something like this (from memory): Usually I look much better with a beard, but there's a terrible photo of me, which I think I have the only copy of, fortunately. You see, there's a wonderful DJ called Jeff Mills and last year I was at a festival in Barcelona - Sonar, it's called, a dance music thing - and I had my photo taken with my arm round Jeff's shoulders. He's quite a short man, you see. But I'd had a few drinks and somehow my beard looked so dishevelled that in the photo I look like some kind of sex tourist with my arm round my latest 'find'. I look like I'm about to say something like 'Look at the little poppet I picked up!' Well, it made me laugh anyway. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Mills' UK dates
And now for something a little less stupid: Mills's UK dates for the summer which came into my possession today. No, I don't have any more details, so there's no point asking. 1st May 2002 - Royal Festival Hall, London 24th May 2002 - Tribal Sessions, Manchester 25th May 2002 - Shine, Belfast 31st May 2002 - Pressure @ The Arches, Glasgow 1st June 2002 - Homelands, Winchester 1st June 2002 - fabric, London 2nd June 2002 - Redbox, Dublin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fw: Leftfield RIP (OT)
Thought some people might be interested in this, if they haven't already heard... (In a pathetic, desperate effort to keep on topic, did Leftfield ever get remixed by any 313 artists? I can't think of any meself.) Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Leftfield RIP For Immediate Release LEFTFIELD R.I.P After 12 years of sonic experimentation, Paul Daley Neil Barnes have decided to pull the plug on Leftfield. Both parties will be pursuing solo projects so Leftfield fans should not be down hearted. This should be seen as a new beginning in an on going process. The platinum selling duo have been responsible for re-defining dance music, as well as producing and remixing artistes from John Lydon to Roots Manuva to David Bowie. They have decided to end the partnership amicably after they felt it could not be taken any further. Formed in 1990 with the release of the seminal 'Not Forgotten' single, Leftfield's career is a list of formidable achievements. The famous duet with John Lydon on 'Open Up' caught the mood of the nation and the impact of their debut 'Leftism' album, released in January 1995, was seismic. It is still referred to as the greatest dance album of all time. Their platinum selling follow-up 'Rhythm And Stealth' debuted at number one and featured the mighty 'Phat Planet' single. Their live show with its famous sound system helped to redefine the role of live dance music and after gigs throughout Europe, they are still officially the loudest band ever to play Brixton Academy. The remix work in the early party of their career and the success of their own Hard Hands label should also be keenly remembered. Leftfield. Gone but not forgotten. Paul Daley - Thanks to everyone from fans to promoters to DJ's and to listeners who have supported us over the years. THIS IS NOT THE END! Neil Barnes - Leftfield was always about pushing the boundries of sound as far as we could. I'm pround to be a part of this. Thanks to all the people we have worked with over the years and to everyone that promoted bought our records. THE END IS JUST THE BEGINNING. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fw: Leftfield RIP (OT)
shit... I loved those guy's output ! they worked with Afrika Bambaata, he's NY but so important he can be regarded as within the 313 specter... Gwendal (In a pathetic, desperate effort to keep on topic, did Leftfield ever get remixed by any 3 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Regarding Business (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:08:39 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business I mean we read this article where Juan was bitching that he took like 2,000 a show and Oakenfold took 1 million for the tour, and how that he's white=rascism=trance whatever. Obviously Juan has to get a new booking agent or realize if you don't do anything musically for almost a decade, that people won't know you across the country, and 2,000 is a lot to play records in that case. I mean he was counting the Ford ad where they use his music as a recent accomplishment, an ad company using his music isn't something he did as recent. They referred to him playing at the DEMF, that was rained just into his set, he was only up there a bit. I think he needs to get his head out of his ass. There are soo many better Detroit DJ's that are actually working their sets, and pushing new sounds, but it's hard to get any where out of Detroit when you have these leaches sucking the life blood out of the Detroit name. Internationally they think that's the Detroit, when it's funny we really don't listen to them all that much here. And if you don't mind reposting this to the group 313 board I'd appreciate it, that function is disabled for some reason. Later, Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Regarding Business (fwd)
Paging Mr. Juan Atkins Mr. Atkins please report to the nearest 313 courtesy telephone [EMAIL PROTECTED] net To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 03/05/02 01:32 PMSubject: Re: [313] Regarding Business (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:08:39 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business I mean we read this article where Juan was bitching that he took like 2,000 a show and Oakenfold took 1 million for the tour, and how that he's white=rascism=trance whatever. Obviously Juan has to get a new booking agent or realize if you don't do anything musically for almost a decade, that people won't know you across the country, and 2,000 is a lot to play records in that case. I mean he was counting the Ford ad where they use his music as a recent accomplishment, an ad company using his music isn't something he did as recent. They referred to him playing at the DEMF, that was rained just into his set, he was only up there a bit. I think he needs to get his head out of his ass. There are soo many better Detroit DJ's that are actually working their sets, and pushing new sounds, but it's hard to get any where out of Detroit when you have these leaches sucking the life blood out of the Detroit name. Internationally they think that's the Detroit, when it's funny we really don't listen to them all that much here. And if you don't mind reposting this to the group 313 board I'd appreciate it, that function is disabled for some reason. Later, Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fwd:[313] DJ Schedule for Hamtramck Blowout
Location for all three nights: Club Coyote's in Hamtramck Directions: Take Caniff past Motor to Conant Street (Small's is on the corner), go right and it is about 3 blocks down (9711 Conant... black building with white letters in front) Thursday, March 7: Kevin Reynolds(live), 9 - 9:30pm Maersk, 9:30 - 10:15pm Jonah Daze Shortround 10:15 - 11:00pm Sean Deason 11:00pm - 12:00am Egghead the Cynic 12:00am - 1:00am Echo Derek Plaslaiko 1:00am - 2am Friday, March 8: Cozmic Spore, 9:00 - 9:45pm Lynxx Punisher, 9:45 - 10:30pm John Arnold(live), 10:30 - 11:15pm Derrick Ramirez, 11:15pm - 12:00am Buzz Goree, 12:00am - 1:00am James Pennington, 1:00am - 2am Saturday, March 9: Mike Huckaby: 9:00 - 10:00pm Eric Hinchman: 10:00 - 11:00pm Keith Kemp: 11:00pm - 12:00am Mike Clark: 12:00am - 1:00am Dwayne Jensen: 1:00am - 2:00am _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] (slightly OT) dreams n music
hey list. just curious if anyone out there might have any leads to information on dreams and the effects that sound and music have on them. any online resources...or names of books, films, authors, scholars would be greatly appreciated. thanks for your time all. mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] (slightly OT) dreams n music
.. this is leading a bit somewher else but Alex Ayuli, one of the People who did M.A.R.R.S. pump up the volume and part of the Duo AR.Kane has got a label called DREAMPOP http://www.dreampop.com and dreams are a main subject in his work hey list. just curious if anyone out there might have any leads to information on dreams and the effects that sound and music have on them. any online resources...or names of books, films, authors, scholars would be greatly appreciated. thanks for your time all. mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] playlist WNUR Chicago - 28 Feb. 2002
Clinically Inclined 28 February 2002 every friday 11 pm - 12:30 am CST www.wnur.org / 89.3 fm in Chicago Selector: M. MacQueen Andre Holland - Journey to Nowhere - Abstract ep (UR S.I.D.) Brother from Another Planet - Soundacape - Tale of 3 Cities (Emergency Broadcast) Quant - Sauna Grease - Quantical Quantasm (Dot) The Chi-Lites - Bottoms Up - (Larc '83) Electronome - Minimal Dope (Hotmix Electro-Nix test) Art of Noise - Beatbox (ZTT '84) Theo Parrish - Dirt Rhodes (Sound Signature) Nutmeg - Oscar's Shed - original vers. (Neroli test) Son of Scientist - Ion Steel (Mainsqueeze) Le Car - Beau Ideal - Auto-Biography (Ersatz Audio) ADULT. - Hand to Phone - MAT101 remix (Clone) Camaro's Gang - Ali Shuffle - remix (Break, '85) Dharma - Plastic Doll - instrumental (JDC '82) Juan Atkins - Techno Music - Techno! The New Dance Sound of Detroit (Ten/Virgin) Geoff White and Sutekh - A1 - Delay 6 (Delay) Hot Lizard - The Theme - Love From San Francisco remix (Pacific) B.B. Boogie - untitled B1 (Bitasweet) Rhythm is Rhythm - Icon - Virtual Sex (Buzz) Kool The Gang - Summer Madness - studio version (bootleg '76) David Axelrod - Song of Innocence - Song of Innocence (EMI '68) Detroit Escalator Company - Ghana - Black Buildings (Peacefrog) *Congrats to the winner who called in for 2 free tickets to the upcoming Perspects show in Chicago. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Regarding Business
listen, would like to go easy but I don´t know the deepest motivation, and it ain´t the first time you did mention Juan Atkins the way this forward goes - IS disrespectfull -too far gone I was told to hold back with my assumptions I will, but some things are almost getting surreal and the vast majority of that stuff was between 85-90 (approx: 15 years). 15 years ? Metroplex 99 Aaron Carl - Down Chaos - Dot Dot Cash Mark Taylor - Silicon Alley R+S 99 Model 500 - Mind and Body when I remember correct, Juan Atkins is working on new music too I hope you´re not going to list the artists now to put them against him why don´t you stick to them you love instead of attacking them you don´t so anyway - theese records are out there for about 3 - 4 years that´s a completely different number then 15 years I think remembering you work as a journalist for Urb ? good night -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:08:39 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business I mean we read this article where Juan was bitching that he took like 2,000 a show and Oakenfold took 1 million for the tour, and how that he's white=rascism=trance whatever. Obviously Juan has to get a new booking agent or realize if you don't do anything musically for almost a decade, that people won't know you across the country, and 2,000 is a lot to play records in that case. I mean he was counting the Ford ad where they use his music as a recent accomplishment, an ad company using his music isn't something he did as recent. They referred to him playing at the DEMF, that was rained just into his set, he was only up there a bit. I think he needs to get his head out of his ass. There are soo many better Detroit DJ's that are actually working their sets, and pushing new sounds, but it's hard to get any where out of Detroit when you have these leaches sucking the life blood out of the Detroit name. Internationally they think that's the Detroit, when it's funny we really don't listen to them all that much here. And if you don't mind reposting this to the group 313 board I'd appreciate it, that function is disabled for some reason. Later, Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Regarding Business (fwd)
Mr. pouvrenoir better check his stats ... and his attitude. To review: I mean we read this article where Juan was bitching that he took like 2,000 a show and Oakenfold took 1 million for the tour, and how that he's white=rascism=trance whatever. Obviously Juan has to get a new booking agent or realize if you don't do anything musically for almost a decade, that people won't know you across the country, and 2,000 is a lot to play records in that case. I mean he was counting the Ford ad where they use his music as a recent accomplishment, an ad company using his music isn't something he did as recent. They referred to him playing at the DEMF, that was rained just into his set, he was only up there a bit. I think he needs to get his head out of his ass. There are soo many better Detroit DJ's that are actually working their sets, and pushing new sounds, but it's hard to get any where out of Detroit when you have these leaches sucking the life blood out of the Detroit name. Internationally they think that's the Detroit, when it's funny we really don't listen to them all that much here. Let's review the actual FACTS: Jazz Is The Teacher/Cosmic Courier/Bassmental 1993 Sonic Sunset/I Wanna Be There 1994 I See the Light/Pick Up the Flow 1995 Techno City 95 1995 Game One/Think Quick 1995 Higher 1996 Skynet 1998 Never Tempt Me 1999 Be Brave 1999 And the Deep Space album (1995), one of my five or six favorite ones of the decade (along with Orbital's brown album, Mr. Onester's African Dream, etc.) Juan Atkins started a revolution in the 1980s. OK, that's not enough for you? His track record in the 1990s is damn good. Or maybe Cosmic Courier and Game One didn't rock the house worldwide, that was just my imagination I guess.. Finally, his just a bit at DEMF last year was almost all his scheduled time. It was probably the most atmospheric moment I can remember -- do you all remember the color of the sky and the lightning while he played? And it was a good set too. I wish people would get off Juan's case. But I guess I'm asking too much, right? Disgusted, phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fw: THE REMOTE AGENCY SPRING/SUMMER 2002 TOURS
THE REMOTE AGENCY SPRING/SUMMER 2002 TOURS March 2002 B'Pitch Control's ELLEN ALLIEN (Berlin) [information - http://www.remoteagency.com/ellen_allien/ellenallien-info.htm ] Touring in: Canada, USA March 2002 Perlon's PANTYTEC (Berlin) [information - http://www.remoteagency.com/pantytec/panytec-info.htm ] Touring in: Canada, USA May 2002 Playhouse Tour - RICARDO VILLALOBOS (Berlin) [information - http://www.remoteagency.com/ricardo_villalobos/ricardovillalobos-info.htm ] Touring in: Canada, USA June 2002 Revolver/Klang/Force Inc Artist TOMAS JIRKU [information http://www.remoteagency.com/tomas_jirku/tomasjirku-info.htm ] Touring in: Europe July 2002 Persona Records Artist STEWART WALKER [information http://www.remoteagency.com/stewart_walker/stewartwalker-info.htm ] Touring in: USA May 2002 Dumb-Unit's JEREMY P CAULFIELD [information http://www.remoteagency.com/jeremy_caulfield/jeremycaulfield-info.htm ] Touring in: Europe April, May, June 2002 Revolver/Force Lab Artist JEFF MILLIGAN [information http://www.remoteagency.com/jeff_milligan/jeffmilligan-info.htm ] Touring in: USA, Europe, Asia August 2002 Cynosure Artist MIKE SHANNON [information http://www.remoteagency.com/mike_shannon/mikeshannon-info.htm ] Touring in: Europe May 2002 Revolver/Perlon/Force Inc Artist AKUFEN [information http://www.remoteagency.com/marc_leclair/marcleclair-info.htm ] Touring in: Europe May 2002 Intr_Version Artist MITCHELL AKIYAMA [information http://www.remoteagency.com/mitchell_akiyama/mitchellakiyama-info.htm ] Touring in: Asia August 2002 Background Artists ANTONELLI ELECTRIC ANDY VAZ [information http://www.remoteagency.com/andy_vaz/andyvaz-info.htm ] Touring in: Canada August 2002 Context/Mosaic Artist BEN NEVILE [information http://www.remoteagency.com/ben_neville/benneville-info.htm ] Touring in: Europe For information on available dates and tour terms, please send your request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 (514) 739 3154, or submit a booking inquiry via our online form at: http://www.remoteagency.com/rbookings.htm For comprehensive information on any Remote artist, please refer to our website : http://www.remoteagency.com CONFIRMED UPCOMING WORLDWIDE EVENT LISTINGS February 28th Paris France AKUFEN March 1st Montreal PQ JEFF MILLIGAN on 'Bouge' March 2nd Montreal PQ AKUFEN March 3rd Montreal PQ DIRK DIGGLER DUB TAYLOR (info) March 7th Toronto ON DJ MAUS (flyer-f) (flyer-b) March 9th Kitchener ON DJ MAUS MIKE SHANNON March 11th Toronto ON DJ MAUS March 15th Montreal PQ PANTYTEC AKUFEN March 16th Toronto ON PANTYTEC JEREMY CAULFIELD March 27th New York NY ELLEN ALLIEN March 29th Montreal PQ DJ MAUS March 30th Montreal PQ ELLEN ALLIEN March 30th Dominican Republic DJ MAUS MIKE SHANNON March 30th Cleveland Ohio JEFF MILLIGAN AKUFEN April 4th New York NY STEWART WALKER April 12th Nelson BC MIKE SHANNON April 19th Victoria BC MIKE SHANNON April 20th Vancouver BC MIKE SHANNON April 27th Toronto ON JEFF MILLIGAN May 29th Vienna Austria JEFF MILLIGAN For a fully comprehensive event listing (including pending bookings), please refer to http://www.remoteagency.com/rcalendar.htm Kind Regards, The Remote Agency 1 514 739 3154 Phone 1 514 739 0281 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.remoteagency.com
Re: [313] Regarding Business
I fowarded that message because the person who wrote it asked me to (please read the end of said message) Mind Body? Please! I have a copy sitting right here. Its a decent album. I'm certain I gave it props in a previous post. And it barely sold any copies, nor did it have any impact on underground music. As for later Metroplex releases: I fucking love 'down' (look for the aaron carl piece I wrote in urb's next 100, coming in may) What the fuck does that have to do with juan, except that his label released it. that's the same as giving derrick may credit for aril brikha. that's bullshit! give aaron carl the credit, not juan the fact is, the stuff that ppl are refering to when they refer to Juan Atkins 'the legend' is his early Model 500 shit that was produced 'approx' 15 years ago. jeez, i can't believe that is so hard to figure out!!! On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Neontsetse wrote: listen, would like to go easy but I don?t know the deepest motivation, and it ain?t the first time you did mention Juan Atkins the way this forward goes - IS disrespectfull -too far gone I was told to hold back with my assumptions I will, but some things are almost getting surreal and the vast majority of that stuff was between 85-90 (approx: 15 years). 15 years ? Metroplex 99 Aaron Carl - Down Chaos - Dot Dot Cash Mark Taylor - Silicon Alley R+S 99 Model 500 - Mind and Body when I remember correct, Juan Atkins is working on new music too I hope you?re not going to list the artists now to put them against him why don?t you stick to them you love instead of attacking them you don?t so anyway - theese records are out there for about 3 - 4 years that?s a completely different number then 15 years I think remembering you work as a journalist for Urb ? good night -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:08:39 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business I mean we read this article where Juan was bitching that he took like 2,000 a show and Oakenfold took 1 million for the tour, and how that he's white=rascism=trance whatever. Obviously Juan has to get a new booking agent or realize if you don't do anything musically for almost a decade, that people won't know you across the country, and 2,000 is a lot to play records in that case. I mean he was counting the Ford ad where they use his music as a recent accomplishment, an ad company using his music isn't something he did as recent. They referred to him playing at the DEMF, that was rained just into his set, he was only up there a bit. I think he needs to get his head out of his ass. There are soo many better Detroit DJ's that are actually working their sets, and pushing new sounds, but it's hard to get any where out of Detroit when you have these leaches sucking the life blood out of the Detroit name. Internationally they think that's the Detroit, when it's funny we really don't listen to them all that much here. And if you don't mind reposting this to the group 313 board I'd appreciate it, that function is disabled for some reason. Later, Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Also: Body Oil (as Infinit) - 1999 Mind and Body (as Model 500) - 1999 Never Tempt Me (as Infitini) - 1999 I could go on and on... Just don't have the time to list all of the aliases and remixes he's done in the past 5 years alone. I haven't seen Juan spin since 420 in Cleveland which must have been 95 or 96 and before that the Metroplex 10th Anniversary party - but each of those times he has played incredible sets. Each of his 3 sets at the Metroplex party in 95 was unbelievable - he played one house, one techno and one jungle. So to summarize I don't think anyone has any right to talk about Juan as a DJ and definitely not as a producer. Once you do half of the stuff he's done then you come back and you can talk shit. Jazz Is The Teacher/Cosmic Courier/Bassmental 1993 Sonic Sunset/I Wanna Be There 1994 I See the Light/Pick Up the Flow 1995 Techno City 95 1995 Game One/Think Quick 1995 Higher 1996 Skynet 1998 Never Tempt Me 1999 Be Brave 1999 And the Deep Space album (1995), one of my five or six favorite ones of the decade (along with Orbital's brown album, Mr. Onester's African Dream, etc.) Juan Atkins started a revolution in the 1980s. OK, that's not enough for you? His track record in the 1990s is damn good. Or maybe Cosmic Courier and Game One didn't rock the house worldwide, that was just my imagination I guess.. Finally, his just a bit at DEMF last year was almost all his scheduled time. It was probably the most atmospheric moment I can remember -- do you all remember the color of the sky and the lightning while he played? And it was a good set too. I wish people would get off Juan's case. But I guess I'm asking too much, right? Disgusted, phred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Go on preach NeonChi-chi No respect and even less credibility uttered by those who've followed and milked THEIR trend dry as a bone. By simply being themselves and blessing us with their deep understanding and knowledge.a most precise example and embodiment of all that we are up against is here self-depicted. A journalist...no less. I agree. poivrenoir...au revoir From: Neontsetse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313s 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:11:02 +0200 listen, would like to go easy but I don´t know the deepest motivation, and it ain´t the first time you did mention Juan Atkins the way this forward goes - IS disrespectfull -too far gone I was told to hold back with my assumptions I will, but some things are almost getting surreal and the vast majority of that stuff was between 85-90 (approx: 15 years). 15 years ? Metroplex 99 Aaron Carl - Down Chaos - Dot Dot Cash Mark Taylor - Silicon Alley R+S 99 Model 500 - Mind and Body when I remember correct, Juan Atkins is working on new music too I hope you´re not going to list the artists now to put them against him why don´t you stick to them you love instead of attacking them you don´t so anyway - theese records are out there for about 3 - 4 years that´s a completely different number then 15 years I think remembering you work as a journalist for Urb ? good night -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:08:39 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Regarding Business I mean we read this article where Juan was bitching that he took like 2,000 a show and Oakenfold took 1 million for the tour, and how that he's white=rascism=trance whatever. Obviously Juan has to get a new booking agent or realize if you don't do anything musically for almost a decade, that people won't know you across the country, and 2,000 is a lot to play records in that case. I mean he was counting the Ford ad where they use his music as a recent accomplishment, an ad company using his music isn't something he did as recent. They referred to him playing at the DEMF, that was rained just into his set, he was only up there a bit. I think he needs to get his head out of his ass. There are soo many better Detroit DJ's that are actually working their sets, and pushing new sounds, but it's hard to get any where out of Detroit when you have these leaches sucking the life blood out of the Detroit name. Internationally they think that's the Detroit, when it's funny we really don't listen to them all that much here. And if you don't mind reposting this to the group 313 board I'd appreciate it, that function is disabled for some reason. Later, Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] bunker in nyc
for those who were curious/wanted more details - http://www.globaldarkness.com/images/bunkernyc.jpg psycho flyer...wow.. free to boot! _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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More appropriately a study of the RECURRING and cyclical pattern of de-evolution and propaganda with regard to Black American artists. The past is over and can never be repeatedor can it..?? What has been discussed has been due to the fact THAT THERE ARE NO black American DANCE artists of any number nowadays, sporting the same opportune major label distribution or recognition as their white counterparts...of whatever aspect of dance music they represent. If they are producing electronically driven dance music, are known and American...chances are they've got a pretty good situation with a major American label. What came before has set today's climate in this industry. There are NO BLACK Rock n'Roll artists today...FOR A VERY GOOD REASON. They were eliminated from the playing field a long time ago,but once upon a time the music was THEIRS alone born and bred. No one could tell me that all Black American rock n' roll musicians/bands...just disappeared. There are probably still black rock bands trying to get signed that will NEVER be afforded the opportunity in today's America. Why?? Because they aren't smart enough or talented enough? Please someone factually contradict this phenome with even the smallest exampleAlan? The game is old...competition...dirty pool...whatever you wish to call itbut it/the past solidly outlines what is to come--if we let it. Okay, Carl Craig's with Caroline...King Britt has made it to radio...anybody else??? Anybody? Kool Keith??? He's frustrated as hell and gits no marketing support (or radio play) from his label and therefore will remain right where he is. Who else? Let's update this to present day and back up our discussion/argument with facts. My tirade was in response to lack of respect for those 313 trail-blazing artists, business peeps, record store owners and promoters that came before affording a way for the young and inexperienced types on this list to presume expertise about garnering success in this country. Most of you have no clue of what these artists/peeps have gone through or what they are faced with TODAY in order to sell product. I'll wager that, just within the dance music arena, that there are even LESS black artists with major label deals/ties TODAY then there were back in the dusty (according to Josh) days of Juan Atkins/Lil Louis. Just within electronic dance musics' major categories (House, Techno, Dn'B...) Let's keep this mainstream american labels/mainstream subs only, K? How is this relevant to the so-called underground?...again microcosm to the macroeconomics of the entertainment industry at large in this country. If artists like Blaze, (is this recent enuff?) once signed to Motown failed at getting exposure and radio play for their product even while housed in a majorwhat chance, then, do the independents have to facilitate/develop market base or penetration to sell their product to potential fans in America? Whether you accept this or not...that is their goal--SALES and market penetration...not just ot be coolly exclusive for y'all to selfishly consume. Answering that, begs further questioning...do some of you presume that their product WOULDN'T be taken to or enjoyed by said potential audience? Cuz the success that we independents have garnered (as well as this thread) have proven that a fallacy. Independent (mostly public and college) radio actively play our products which gives a little hope and exposure for new sales/market penetration. But again, opportunities afforded us are the result of 20 or 30 TIMES the work of our counter-parts and non-ethnic competition. Roll callfor dance music artists either signed to or with major label distributioneveryone submit/post those that you know. While I have preference for good music of any color..I'm rather certain this discussion will still break out skewed in favor of non-ethnic (politically correct enuff?) artists, both good..mostly bad, based in this country. Because of the severe lack of support and active dis-interest, our mission in establishing a base of potential buyers and fans has always been two-fold in educating people about 'who is Juan Atkins?..' (yes, we still need to do that Josh). Marketing against the machine/grain with unknown artists who happened to be highly celebrated elsewhere...makes for a long day's work that most of you have GROSSLY taken for granted here. Moreover, here's a challenge to those listees who claim expertise having accomplished VERY little. When this 'dusty 'discussion was actually an everyday existence (even though it still is current), there were no second hand stories/books or american media coverage of these artists and this movement to substantiate any interest. Since the early-mid 90's this has certainly turned around dramatically affording people like Dan Sicko, Simon Reynold's, Hobey Eichlin and Mike Rubin and various
RE: [313] Regarding Business
hi guys. while i have been following the thread with great zest and interest, i'd like to share something with everyone that my good friend ana sent me. i made this last night and it was fantastic. so good i'd like to share with you, just to serve as an intermission between rounds. it tastes absolutely heavenly and i think everyone should bake a loaf while composing their next email. just to have some comfort food nearby. - While this easy version of garlic bread is fine just as it is, it is also very flexible. Consider mixing chopped fresh basil or sun-dried tomatoes into butter mixture before using. 1/4 cup (1/2 stick) unsalted butter, at room temperature 2 tablespoons olive oil 2 cloves garlic, minced 1/4 teaspoon salt 1 loaf (1 pound) hearty Italian bread 1. Heat oven to 3500. Mix butter, olive oil, garlic and salt in small bowl. 2. Slice bread into 18 pieces, about 3/4-inch thick, without cutting through bottom crust, so slices stay attached. Spread butter mixture, dividing evenly between slices, about 1 teaspoon. Wrap bread tightly in foil. 3. Bake in 3500 oven for 15 to 20 minutes or until butter is melted and bread is hot. Unwrap carefully and serve hot. okay. game on! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Has anyone mentioned the Nazis yet on this thread, so that it can officially end? -Eli B - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Since the early-mid 90's this has certainly turned around dramatically affording people like Dan Sicko, Simon Reynold's, Hobey Eichlin and Mike Rubin and various others the opportunity to cover or relate interesting stories and get paid. ^^ I hope you mean this literally ... cause I sure didn't GET PAID in the figurative sense. :) You guys think the music biz is rough ... try publishing a book. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.superosity.com/d/20020302.html --- Eli Bingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone mentioned the Nazis yet on this thread, so that it can officially end? -Eli B __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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heat to 3500 degrees???!!! -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 5:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business hi guys. while i have been following the thread with great zest and interest, i'd like to share something with everyone that my good friend ana sent me. i made this last night and it was fantastic. so good i'd like to share with you, just to serve as an intermission between rounds. it tastes absolutely heavenly and i think everyone should bake a loaf while composing their next email. just to have some comfort food nearby. - While this easy version of garlic bread is fine just as it is, it is also very flexible. Consider mixing chopped fresh basil or sun-dried tomatoes into butter mixture before using. 1/4 cup (1/2 stick) unsalted butter, at room temperature 2 tablespoons olive oil 2 cloves garlic, minced 1/4 teaspoon salt 1 loaf (1 pound) hearty Italian bread 1. Heat oven to 3500. Mix butter, olive oil, garlic and salt in small bowl. 2. Slice bread into 18 pieces, about 3/4-inch thick, without cutting through bottom crust, so slices stay attached. Spread butter mixture, dividing evenly between slices, about 1 teaspoon. Wrap bread tightly in foil. 3. Bake in 3500 oven for 15 to 20 minutes or until butter is melted and bread is hot. Unwrap carefully and serve hot. okay. game on! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Regarding Business
uhh Fishbone anyone? I will read Billboard more now. Five - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Regarding Business
Heat oven to 3500? wow. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Rob Theakston Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2002 5:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Regarding Business hi guys. while i have been following the thread with great zest and interest, i'd like to share something with everyone that my good friend ana sent me. i made this last night and it was fantastic. so good i'd like to share with you, just to serve as an intermission between rounds. it tastes absolutely heavenly and i think everyone should bake a loaf while composing their next email. just to have some comfort food nearby. - While this easy version of garlic bread is fine just as it is, it is also very flexible. Consider mixing chopped fresh basil or sun-dried tomatoes into butter mixture before using. 1/4 cup (1/2 stick) unsalted butter, at room temperature 2 tablespoons olive oil 2 cloves garlic, minced 1/4 teaspoon salt 1 loaf (1 pound) hearty Italian bread 1. Heat oven to 3500. Mix butter, olive oil, garlic and salt in small bowl. 2. Slice bread into 18 pieces, about 3/4-inch thick, without cutting through bottom crust, so slices stay attached. Spread butter mixture, dividing evenly between slices, about 1 teaspoon. Wrap bread tightly in foil. 3. Bake in 3500 oven for 15 to 20 minutes or until butter is melted and bread is hot. Unwrap carefully and serve hot. okay. game on! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Regarding Business
not sure if anyone forwarded this message to this list, it's from microsound : for a very interesting read check out the new XLR8R issue with Juan Atkins on the cover...in the interview with Juan he highlights some really disturbing racial issues regarding the lack of black techno/electronica DJ's in a predominantly white and (still very) racist music industry...it's really cool that XLR8R made this issue a focus... seems relevant ;) -pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Regarding Business
If only I wasn't on the Atkins diet! Maybe I should just hurl insults and eat some beef jerky... At 04:12 PM 3/5/2002, Rob Theakston wrote: hi guys. while i have been following the thread with great zest and interest, i'd like to share something with everyone that my good friend ana sent me. i made this last night and it was fantastic. so good i'd like to share with you, just to serve as an intermission between rounds. it tastes absolutely heavenly and i think everyone should bake a loaf while composing their next email. just to have some comfort food nearby... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [313] Regarding Business
Tuesday, March 05, 2002, 4:15:04 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: M If only I wasn't on the Atkins diet! Maybe I should just hurl insults and M eat some beef jerky... Funny you'd mention the Atkins diet on the 313 list . . . - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [313] Regarding Business
At 06:12 PM 3/5/2002, Brian 'balistic' Prince wrote: Tuesday, March 05, 2002, 4:15:04 PM, a knob was tweaked and out came: M If only I wasn't on the Atkins diet! Maybe I should just hurl insults and M eat some beef jerky... Funny you'd mention the Atkins diet on the 313 list . . . - Whoops. I thought it was IDM-l... jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
