Re: (313) New Transmat Comp.
Do RA pay writers? I heard Pitchfork don't. On 28/11/2012, at 9:01 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Good on yer Aidan. But yes, trying to raise journalistic standards at RA might be a bit of a forlorn hope. ;-) -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 November 2012 10:00 To: Wibo Lammerts Cc: Marsel van der Wielen; wojciech; Patrick Wacher; Sam; John Sokolowski; irid...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) New Transmat Comp. i mailed their news editor - not that i expect anything to come of it On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Aidan O'Doherty aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote: so, for the likes of philip and stephen brown, the fact that they were not contacted about his comp, despite may's quote that all artists got paid in advance, means they will not get the royalties they deserve? i think resident advisor should be made aware of this. what i find surprising about their piece is the obvious fact that none of it was checked out - a quick google search would turn up loads of info on djinxx - sure they have him in their profiles, including his twitter feed. it's not like they are up against print deadlines. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: oops 2012/11/28 Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net Fabric once went bankrupt when I still had some unpaid statements Op 28-11-2012 7:24, Wibo Lammerts schreef: Stories like this one are very common, i think. Artists that do not get paid, ripped off etc etc. The worst of them being Larry Sherman and Trax Records. But you never hear of the companies that actually do a good job. Last year I had the pleasure of having a track included on the Fabric 60 Dave Clarke compilation. I think both Fabric and Tracksuite both do a fine job, Just this last week I got another royalty-statement from them in the mail. And I must add that this was my first bit of experience with labels and royalties and stuff, and so far so good. 2012/11/28 wojciech wojtek@gmail.com make that money !!! ;) On Nov 27, 2012, at 17:08, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: GO DERRICK! On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Sam samuel.kar...@gmail.com wrote: Way to shoot yourself in the foot Derrick ..ie keep it hush when you rip off artists ..that's the best way..maybe something like I had to sell my Ferrari to pay for the cd press and all profits are going to the Red Cross Sent from my iPhone On 28/11/2012, at 6:28 AM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: 'It's a seriously real thing with a fairly decent budget spent on it. Every artist got paid in advance. There's marketing and promotions-it's real!' -Derrick May on business per usual at Transmat CC: 313@hyperreal.org From: irid...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:05:57 + To: philipmcga...@gmail.com Subject: Re: (313) New Transmat Comp. LOL - Stephen Brown was in our store on Saturday helping us celebrate our 20th Birthday and he didn't know much about it either :) Cheers Jason Sent from my iPad On 26 Nov 2012, at 21:39, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.com wrote: Yes thanks for the heads up. First I've heard of it too :^) Philip / Microworld Cool. Thanks much for the heads-up on this. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Christian Hcjh4...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=18303 Nice to see people like Rennie Foster get more exposure. -- | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | http://twitter.com/w1b0 | -- -- | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | http://twitter.com/w1b0 | --
(313) Derrick May Interview
This was done in May here in Melbourne by some local party promoters. Talks a lot about EDM, Japan, etc from memory! V fun. http://vimeo.com/45552575
Re: (313) From the mouth of babes...
I spoke to Guetta only 6/8 months ago and he was very respectful - actually voiced concern that the young 'big' DJs don't know the history of the music (a protege didn't know Lil' Louis' French Kiss) and he thinks the US media covering 'EDM' should be better educating the masses about Detroit, Chicago... To be fair, he is not wholly fluent in English and I think it often happens that he and some others express themselves badly. Also he may have said that as part of a long quote and they just truncated it, I can't say, but it happens now in a lot of media, so it seems abrupt. I know at least one huge Dutch house DJ who didn't know who Juan Atkins is. Also Guetta is hardly a babe - 40s, came up with Garnier, Mayday knows him. Happily The Presets rave about UR in their interviews with Who (People) mag, etc... On 12/07/2012, at 9:23 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: This makes me so angry and sick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2012, at 1:15 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: What else can be said about a guy who's party brand is Fsck Me I'm Famous. Naturally, he plays music by serious people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgZGsMGU4GE Next. fh - http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/david-guetta-mocks- underground-resistance/ 'For [David] Guetta, dance music’s newfound popularity can only be a good thing. He won’t convince everyone, but few in the industry would deny his phenomenal success in the US has given the industry as a whole a healthy financial boost. “Listen, some people take themselves very, very seriously,” Guetta says. “I’m not a politician, you know what I mean? You remember in the old days you had people like Underground Resistance?” [a late 80s militant dance collective from Detroit]. He pauses and smiles. “I never took myself so seriously.”' WOW. ~David
Re: (313) Joke of the week
Funny as at Creamfields fest last year in Oz Derrick and Kevin played at the same time as Skrillex and the crowds were quite distinct. ;) Skrillex is such a contentious figure now he avoids interviews or lays down conditions - it began with a facetious Guardian article. NME just did a story on this. It's a new trend starting among DJs now, wanting copy approval, question approval, etc, etc - of course it's never the real innovators or those with something interesting to say. You have no idea at some of the diva antics that go on these days... and the image consciousness. ;) On 01/03/2012, at 8:36 PM, Wibo Lammerts wrote: same here, and same reaction. Op 1 maart 2012 10:21 heeft Ronny Pries r...@rohformat.de het volgende geschreven: So far i haven't heard any Skrillex tracks but you guys made me check out some random ones on Youtube. Ugly. just like that last shot of 151, the last post just put me over the edge. On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Wibo Lammertswibo...@gmail.com wrote: Just had my moby tattoo totally re-done: I now have a giant Plastikman on my lower back. Op 29 februari 2012 01:28 heeft david smithbassline...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: I had a webcam chat with a girl who had a skillex tattoo--just chating to hear made me feel kinda dirty even though she was cute and not doing naughty things. When is the last time you seen a moby tattoo? - Original Message - From:ja...@iridite.com To: kent williamschaircrus...@gmail.com Cc: Arturo Lopezarturo.m.lo...@gmail.com; Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: Re: (313) Joke of the week WHAT CAN WE SAY ABOUT MOBY THAT HASN’T BEEN SAID? Hmmm, I can think of a few things actually now you mention it. Having said that, he did do a pretty fine remix of LFO on WARP many years ago so he's not all bad. Skrillex on the other hand.. Jason On 28 February 2012 19:23, kent williamschaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: The Chose Few DJs House Music Picnic is coming up in June... On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Arturo Lopezarturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, so much for us here in Chicago ever getting a house festival of the DEMF variety: http://www.springawakeningfestival.com/ $100 to see Skrillex! I'm going to buy -5- tickets. -Art -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/ w1b0 -- -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 --
Re: (313) Re: UR deejay Skurge
The amazing James Blake, ha ha. I'll get slaughtered now. ;) Surprised no discussion here of Defected's recent Kevin Saunderson In The House and even November's MK retro House Masters comp? Or did I miss it? I commend Defected on these, not obvious choices for comps in the day and age of Guetta, Swedish House Mafia, etc, etc. Great high profile releases for both DJs. On 01/03/2012, at 12:32 PM, Christopher L. Smith wrote: What is dubstep wunderkind?
Re: (313) Octave One in Sydney
Yeah, a lot of the younger promoters do it via Facebook and bypass the media. I am really gutted. I would have loved to have caught Shake. I think there's always at least someone who says something naff to a DJ. About 5 years ago I played Ginuwine's classic Pony (this was a commercial bar with RB policy) and someone asked me to play something he could dance to. ;) Now they're all dancing to those triple beats anyway. ;) On 19/12/2011, at 10:12 PM, Mel N wrote: I only found out about Shake when I saw a poster under a bridge - and even then I couldn't make out the date until I searched online... in Sydney it was marketed as a house music party so if it was promoted the same way in Melbourne that's probably why it missed your radar. On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Cyclone Wehner cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au wrote: No! I found out about Shake's recent tour on Friday and was v upset - I can't believe I didn't know, I am gutted! I wish that had been more widely known too. I went to Carl, left at 6 with my friend and walked 40 minutes out of the city to her house... then caught a tram home. Yes, I have heard similar C2 sets... it was fun, though. That remix beats anything else he played - it's totally amazing. On the new Deetron Balance mix-CD. On 19/12/2011, at 5:05 PM, Mel N wrote: Apparently he played the same set in Sydney.. Did you catch Shake down in Melbourne? that was fun too, but apparently some stripper of a girl went up to him and told him she was leaving because of his mixing (wtf?!). I heard Rick Wilhite may be coming next year... fingers crossed for that one :) On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Cyclone Wehner cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I saw Carl down here - I missed a few Detroit gigs here this year as I don't trawl Facebook. It was great but I wish he'd play that amazing Ronny Renzo Heartbreak Theme remix he has out! He had Osunlade on the dancefloor too! On 19/12/2011, at 4:44 PM, Mel N wrote: Hi all We had Octave One (live) and Carl Craig (dj) in Sydney at the Metro as part of the Golden Cage party. Good crowd of young party goers who were really psyched for Octave One. They played for close to 2 hours, and it was fun. It's nice to see them rejig some of their older tracks, it keeps it fresh. I think the reason why I like seeing them live is that they're really into it and they look like they're having a good time. It was great to have them in town twice in a year what a rarity. I didn't stay for Carl, he started at 3.45am and by that time I was way too exhausted! Merry Christmas everyone! Cheers Melody
Re: (313) Octave One in Sydney
I saw Carl down here - I missed a few Detroit gigs here this year as I don't trawl Facebook. It was great but I wish he'd play that amazing Ronny Renzo Heartbreak Theme remix he has out! He had Osunlade on the dancefloor too! On 19/12/2011, at 4:44 PM, Mel N wrote: Hi all We had Octave One (live) and Carl Craig (dj) in Sydney at the Metro as part of the Golden Cage party. Good crowd of young party goers who were really psyched for Octave One. They played for close to 2 hours, and it was fun. It's nice to see them rejig some of their older tracks, it keeps it fresh. I think the reason why I like seeing them live is that they're really into it and they look like they're having a good time. It was great to have them in town twice in a year what a rarity. I didn't stay for Carl, he started at 3.45am and by that time I was way too exhausted! Merry Christmas everyone! Cheers Melody
Re: (313) Octave One in Sydney
No! I found out about Shake's recent tour on Friday and was v upset - I can't believe I didn't know, I am gutted! I wish that had been more widely known too. I went to Carl, left at 6 with my friend and walked 40 minutes out of the city to her house... then caught a tram home. Yes, I have heard similar C2 sets... it was fun, though. That remix beats anything else he played - it's totally amazing. On the new Deetron Balance mix-CD. On 19/12/2011, at 5:05 PM, Mel N wrote: Apparently he played the same set in Sydney.. Did you catch Shake down in Melbourne? that was fun too, but apparently some stripper of a girl went up to him and told him she was leaving because of his mixing (wtf?!). I heard Rick Wilhite may be coming next year... fingers crossed for that one :) On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Cyclone Wehner cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I saw Carl down here - I missed a few Detroit gigs here this year as I don't trawl Facebook. It was great but I wish he'd play that amazing Ronny Renzo Heartbreak Theme remix he has out! He had Osunlade on the dancefloor too! On 19/12/2011, at 4:44 PM, Mel N wrote: Hi all We had Octave One (live) and Carl Craig (dj) in Sydney at the Metro as part of the Golden Cage party. Good crowd of young party goers who were really psyched for Octave One. They played for close to 2 hours, and it was fun. It's nice to see them rejig some of their older tracks, it keeps it fresh. I think the reason why I like seeing them live is that they're really into it and they look like they're having a good time. It was great to have them in town twice in a year what a rarity. I didn't stay for Carl, he started at 3.45am and by that time I was way too exhausted! Merry Christmas everyone! Cheers Melody
Re: (313) Dan Sicko
Dan's Techno Rebels is considered a bible here in Australia. Every DJ/ producer of note in Melbourne has a copy. It was such a key book. I recall telling Visage bassist Barry Adamson he and Frequency 7 were mentioned in the book and he was stunned - he's a Mancunian guy now based in Sydney who plays blues. He just had no idea. I was just extremely saddened to hear of Dan's passing. On 30/08/2011, at 2:52 PM, Richard Hester wrote: I've had a look at a lot of the pics, and Dan had a good eye and nice sense of composition... I used to be quite active in BW photography before techno/radio snarfed up a lot of my time. He will be missed. I plan to do (KFJC programming willing) a 4- hour block of Detroit in his honor. Minto George wrote: I shared this link earlier today on fb, but thought it was appropriate to share here, since he was a friend to a lot of us on this list. There are some great moments as seen through Dan's eyes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/seekoh/
Re: (313) New interviews
I don't think Rick is really out of line with many other DJs from across the spectrum. He's summed up how many DJs feel. Also there is the hideous spectre of 'Facebook clubbing' here in Oz where people seem to go out only to spend time on their phones and posting pics. On 24/09/2010, at 2:09 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote: Well, at least this got everyone talking! And lay off the Dad chat you lot :) Jason On 23 September 2010 16:39, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 23 Sep 2010, at 16:27, kent williams wrote: I think that people should produce music how they want to produce, and be judged on the results. I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs. I can disagree with him and still have mad respect for him. Absolutely, I'd have a beer and a slice of pound cake with him anytime. m
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
Yeah I have to second that, they certainly know their music. If the techno police are gonna 'arrest' Carl, they probably would want to get him for the ex Sugababe girl (Siobhan Donaghy) remix, though, as pop acts go, she's pretty cool. On 12/01/2010, at 8:25 PM, Martin Dust wrote: We've played with two of the guys from Hot Chip, good lads and they know their techno as they worked for Warp back in the day. m On 8 Jan 2010, at 19:31, kent williams wrote: http://www.urb.com/2010/01/08/hot-chip-one-life-stand-carl-craig- remix I have no use for Hot Chip, myself, and the cynically minded might view this as the latest chapter in CC's selling out. But I actually rather like this remix on its own terms. The original track? Eecchh
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
I don't know - some of the cred acts are pretty boring to me. I don't get Junior Boys at all. I saw Mayer Hawthorne (he's from Ann Arbor) on the weekend and he was vg but right now no neo-soul act compares live to Daniel Merriweather. He's incredible live... he's somewhere between D'Angelo and Jeff Buckley and Lewis Taylor. On 13/01/2010, at 12:19 AM, Martin Dust wrote: On 12 Jan 2010, at 09:29, Odeluga, Ken wrote: It would be good if they took a bit of a chance with *some* of their music. They're a pop band with a vocalist at the end of the day, I can't see them going Dada anytime soon. That's interesting, as I tend to got the impression somehow that they *could* write some edgier music if they tried. Perhaps I can sense the good taste lurking somewhere in what they've released. They played loads of Theo and Omar S if that helps :) m
Re: (313) Carl Craig remixes Hot Chip
I think every man and his dog remixes Hot Chip... I can't keep up! The only people who get more remixes are Jamiroquai. I wish he'd remix White Lies... or (early) Kings of Leon... ;) On 09/01/2010, at 6:31 AM, kent williams wrote: http://www.urb.com/2010/01/08/hot-chip-one-life-stand-carl-craig-remix I have no use for Hot Chip, myself, and the cynically minded might view this as the latest chapter in CC's selling out. But I actually rather like this remix on its own terms. The original track? Eecchh
Re: (313) does anybody no what isolee (Rajk o Müller) is up to these days?
He's touring in August, Australia. Live show. Part of the Berlin Sessions program in tandem with the Goethe Institut and Future Classic in Syd. There should be some press for it so maybe all will be revealed then! On 22/06/2009, at 3:47 PM, Samuel Karmel wrote: maybe i'm missing something but can't seem to find anything apart from remixes in the last three years. does anybody know what this uber talented producer is up to? later sam
Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010
Does that mean Miley Cyrus main stage? ;) That's what kids are into right? Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au On 25/05/2009, at 4:17 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I've bought a few records in my life [including some of yours] and been to a few festivals. I don't take myself as a sort of Child Welfare Agency. I did dance at a Carl Craig set at the Big Chill in 2005 hmmm, I wish I'd known about the Child Protection Angle so I could have made an informed choice. -Original Message- From: telepat...@comcast.net [mailto:telepat...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:10 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 Yay !!! Can't wait to see the banner We Support Carl Craig's Children next year ! telepathic regards, the kooky scientist - Original Message - From: Ken Odeluga ken.odel...@dowjones.com To: robin ro...@fivetones.org, Matt Kane's Brain mkb- pr...@hydrogenproject.com Cc: 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:41:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 Not that I'm 'anybody' as such, but that did make me quietly resolve to go next year, at last. I'd expect Craig to help produce a 'better' Movement than we've seen in recent years, despite the inevitable constraints. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:ro...@fivetones.org] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:15 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: 313 313 Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig named creative director of Movement 2010 On 22 May 2009, at 14:13, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: From Sonic Sunset's Twitter feed: http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=10599 Wow. Might even consider returning now. robin...
(313) Kevin Saunderson Remix Set On Fabric
Random googling uncovered this. Sounds v good! Includes recent(ish) remixes of Hercules and Love Affair as well as The Presets. http://artistdirect.com/nad/news/article/0,,5288540,00.html
Re: (313) twitter in the dj booth
Thank goodness, someone intelligent/interesting using it. ;) Ie not the appalling John Mayer. On 30/04/2009, at 11:59 PM, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Of COURSE it had to be Hawtin who does it: http://www.m-nus.com/newsletters/TWITTER%20press%20release.pdf -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
(313) Jon Hopkins
I haven't posted for a while following my infamous How good is Kanye West's 808s album thread, but here is one that I think some 313 types may like - the Jon Hopkins album Insides out on Domino UK. He's Eno's protege and has worked on the Coldplay album (if you don't like them, don't let it put you off!) and the forthcoming Lovely Bones OST. His music is wonderfully melodic and epic yet uses glitchy production techniques. He's not pretending to be an innovator but the musicianship and composition is wonderful. Tom Middleton rates him bigtime. He's influenced by a lot of Warp era stuff, Aphex Twin etc. I love these tracks: Light Through The Veins (Coldplay jacked this one, there's also a remix by Ewan Pearson of it), Vessel and The Low Places (kinda like Trentemoller's more Lanois-ish material, I've played it on repeat all day) and Autumn Hill. He DJs as well and is coming out here for Eno's Luminous Fest in Sydney. I think if you like some of the more ambient, dreamy album releases on Transmat, this record would appeal. I actually prefer Hopkins' music to that of Stimming who everyone is raving about atm.
Re: (313) twitter in the dj booth
On 01/05/2009, at 12:13 AM, kent williams wrote: And more than that, what DJ wants to play in front of a crowd glued to their cellies? I think it's too late, that's already the norm! I think Richie is an OK guy -- really, I'm not being sarcastic. But he needs to get out of the freaking echo chamber he's built up around himself. Can you imagine -- just as an example -- Omar-S twittering from the DJ Booth? DJ Bone? Buzz Goree? Theo Parrish? Ron Hardy? Those guys don't need technology to mediate between them and their audience -- they're ALREADY INTERACTING INTIMATELY WITH THEIR AUDIENCE. To be fair to Richie, he's never been an 'extrovert' DJ or performance based DJ. He's probably the one DJ who could get away with tweeting and make an 'art' of it.
Re: (313) 313 in da 323 this weekend - Oliver Ho/Alexi Delano/Osunlade
Lutzenkirchen has nicked his sound... and turned it into something horrid. And even he's better than Deadmau5. ;) On 01/05/2009, at 8:09 AM, Southern Outpost wrote: I haven't kept up with Oliver Ho since his output on Blueprint/Meta/etc many many years ago... he still hitting that dark percussive techno? On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Good weekend for gigs in LA: Friday, May 1st: Oliver Ho @ Re_Invent Flyer: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/204/rispringlargea.jpg Saturday, May 2nd: Alexi Delano @ Interface 27 (Droid Behavior) Flyer: http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/events/flyer/2009/ us-0502-94865-front.jpg Sunday, May 3rd: Osunlade @ Deep (at Vanguard) Flyer: http://www.deep-la.com/calendar/May0309_500x375.jpg - Greg
Re: (313) DEMF Pre-Lineup
Even for big commercial promoters Benny is hardly a big draw now. He had one hit with Satisfaction, won a Grammy for a lame PE remix... IF you wanted to go commercial now some of the fidget housers are a bigger draw... That's what commercial types book here now. Promoters here in Oz are also starting to book acts for an older crowd, like The Human League who perform the whole of Dare. THAT is cool as they do have young fans. That would fit in better than BB. It baffles me why the people behind the Detroit festival are so determined to turn it into a generic festival like it could be anywhere in the world. That's not hating, as I do go to generic festivals and enjoy bits of them, but would international travellers go all that way to visit a festival like they get here, complete with full interrogation by foreign hating customs? Nope. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au Help our little friends in the bush at http://www.rspcavic.org/ campaigns_news/news_bushfires.htm and www.wildlifevictoria.org.au On 19/03/2009, at 1:03 AM, kent williams wrote: Let the hating begin? There are some Detroit names I'm glad to see but it seems pretty front-loaded with Europeans. Not necesarily a bad thing -- witness the year the Dutchies all came. But considering they're probably going to be paying bushel baskets of hundred dollar bills to Benny Benassi and Carl Cox, they could have booked some Detroit guys who would be big draws, and don't play in Detroit much. In a perfect world, Francois Kevorkian would play next to the river first thing Sunday and make it the ghost of Body and Soul.
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
This is good, heh. But to be fair to Benny, he's not trance, he's definitely part of the early 2000s' electro-house brigade, but was superseded by Sinden/Switch and co. For someone interesting, and crossover, Santo(i)gold would be as good as any. At least she is coming from an interesting position as a Black artist who refuses to be marketed as 'urban' and is breaking down some boundaries. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au Help our little friends in the bush at http://www.rspcavic.org/ campaigns_news/news_bushfires.htm and www.wildlifevictoria.org.au On 19/03/2009, at 4:26 AM, kent williams wrote: DO: Include Detroit DJs and Artists. Genre not important as long as contemporary with some electronic elements. e.g. Slum Village, but not a Detroit Polka band. Include International artists and DJs whose music is either Detroit influenced, or is interesting and enjoyable in it's own right and not too far from the core focus on electronic music. E.g. Tortoise and Autechre were good DEMF bookings. Include the best proponents of new dance music genres. E.g. Burial would be a good booking. Give him a Luchador mask to wear if he's still feeling bashful. DON'T: Book Trance DJs. Trance music -- regardless of nation or city of origin -- is the opposite of Techno, and the opposite of good music, for that matter. Book a DJ/Producer who don't actually make the music they release under their names. Book any Big-room, Ibiza-DJing, Coked-out, Primadonna Bullsh1t DJs. Now it's tough to balance financial prudence with artistic integrity, and arguably Paxahau has mostly done OK. But the only rightful place for Benny Benassi at DEMF would be in a dunk tank.
Re: (313) 313 related parties/venues at Oz nowadays?
He should come down to Melbourne one weekend, the club scene is bigger and more diverse. Traditionally Melbourne is far more 313 friendly. Spacey Space, very 313 friendly Melbourne DJ, is playing a bushfire benefit at Tramp tonight down here (though keep in mind the city is thick with bushfire smoke if you're asthmatic). If he is in Syd he might do well to catch the Future Classic party with Todd Terje this weekend - vg DJ. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au Help our little friends in the bush at http://www.rspcavic.org/ campaigns_news/news_bushfires.htm and www.wildlifevictoria.org.au On 13/02/2009, at 7:56 AM, Jussi Lehtonen wrote: Hi, my mate's visiting Sydney (well, he's been there for 2 months now), and he's complaining about the lack of good 313 related parties and venues there. Have you got any suggestions / recommendations that I could pass to him? Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
Re: (313) 313 related parties/venues at Oz nowadays? (fwd)
The fires are in the state of Victoria and affecting Melbourne so I don't think they'll be offended in Syd. There are a few club benefits down here with monies raised going to the Red Cross so you can pop out with a conscience. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au Help our little friends in the bush at http://www.rspcavic.org/ campaigns_news/news_bushfires.htm and www.wildlifevictoria.org.au On 13/02/2009, at 8:02 AM, Jussi Lehtonen wrote: my mate's visiting Sydney (well, he's been there for 2 months now), and he's complaining about the lack of good 313 related parties and venues there. And my apologies to you if this request found you offended. You probably may have a bit more to think than of a party at this hour with the forest/landfires roaming there. Wasn't thinking. :/ Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
Re: (313) 313 related parties/venues at Oz nowadays? (fwd)
He's one of my best mates, he'd be chuffed by that. He actually once worked in C2's studio and totally rearranged it from what I hear. You can sample his work on myspace. He worked in a wine shop until Geoffrey Rush came in and asked him why he was working there... so he bounced. He just put out his first record on Ripperton's label and is involved in a digital label here too. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au Help our little friends in the bush at http://www.rspcavic.org/ campaigns_news/news_bushfires.htm and www.wildlifevictoria.org.au On 13/02/2009, at 9:25 AM, Mike wrote: There's also christian vance at the bunker on 20th. Melbourne guy with a C2esque sound (I mean that kindly) And if you like original disco kinda stuff (I know some people on this list do) paradise lost happens irregularly (www.paradiselost.net.au). They are always great underground parties. Hi-tek jazz is something of an anthem there so i suppose it is 313 related. If you're friend comes to space is the place tell him to say hello to mikey. I'll be working the outdoor soundsystem/BBQ most of night :) m On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Southern Outpost southernoutp...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.inthemix.com.au/whatson/event/49887/ Space_is_the_Place_presents_Dorian_Concept_Live On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Jussi Lehtonen jleht...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: Thanks for the tip guys, sounds pretty good to me, and I'd think my friend and missus would appreciate it. :) At which precise address is Space Is The Place located? Lovely name, btw. Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself. On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Southern Outpost wrote: It's pretty hard to find 313 only events in Sydney and has been for sometime. But from what I hear and what Mike suggested, Space Is The Place would be the best bet. P. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Mike miut...@gmail.com wrote: No offense taken to quote Fatback anytime is party time and party time is anytime. Dorian Concept @ Space is the Place this Saturday. Not sure if that counts as 313 related but it's forwarded thinking technology music in my books :) m On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Jussi Lehtonen jleht...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: my mate's visiting Sydney (well, he's been there for 2 months now), and he's complaining about the lack of good 313 related parties and venues there. And my apologies to you if this request found you offended. You probably may have a bit more to think than of a party at this hour with the forest/landfires roaming there. Wasn't thinking. :/ Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself. --
Re: (313) 313 related parties/venues at Oz nowadays? (fwd)
Yeah, he lives down the road in the same house he had since pre Oscar. Lovely man. He doesn't drive so does all his shopping on foot and everyone chats to him - can't miss his height and theatrical walk. Even raids the local second hand vinyl shop! Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au Help our little friends in the bush at http://www.rspcavic.org/ campaigns_news/news_bushfires.htm and www.wildlifevictoria.org.au On 13/02/2009, at 11:21 AM, Jussi Lehtonen wrote: Geoffrey Rush, as in (The Life and Death of) Peter Sellers, the actor? :D Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself. On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Cyclone Wehner wrote: He's one of my best mates, he'd be chuffed by that. He actually once worked in C2's studio and totally rearranged it from what I hear. You can sample his work on myspace. He worked in a wine shop until Geoffrey Rush came in and asked him why he was working there... so he bounced. He just put out his first record on Ripperton's label and is involved in a digital label here too. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au Help our little friends in the bush at http://www.rspcavic.org/ campaigns_news/news_bushfires.htm and www.wildlifevictoria.org.au On 13/02/2009, at 9:25 AM, Mike wrote: There's also christian vance at the bunker on 20th. Melbourne guy with a C2esque sound (I mean that kindly) And if you like original disco kinda stuff (I know some people on this list do) paradise lost happens irregularly (www.paradiselost.net.au). They are always great underground parties. Hi-tek jazz is something of an anthem there so i suppose it is 313 related. If you're friend comes to space is the place tell him to say hello to mikey. I'll be working the outdoor soundsystem/BBQ most of night :) m On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Southern Outpost southernoutp...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.inthemix.com.au/whatson/event/49887/ Space_is_the_Place_presents_Dorian_Concept_Live On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Jussi Lehtonen jleht...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: Thanks for the tip guys, sounds pretty good to me, and I'd think my friend and missus would appreciate it. :) At which precise address is Space Is The Place located? Lovely name, btw. Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself. On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Southern Outpost wrote: It's pretty hard to find 313 only events in Sydney and has been for sometime. But from what I hear and what Mike suggested, Space Is The Place would be the best bet. P. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Mike miut...@gmail.com wrote: No offense taken to quote Fatback anytime is party time and party time is anytime. Dorian Concept @ Space is the Place this Saturday. Not sure if that counts as 313 related but it's forwarded thinking technology music in my books :) m On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Jussi Lehtonen jleht...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: my mate's visiting Sydney (well, he's been there for 2 months now), and he's complaining about the lack of good 313 related parties and venues there. And my apologies to you if this request found you offended. You probably may have a bit more to think than of a party at this hour with the forest/landfires roaming there. Wasn't thinking. :/ Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself. --
Re: (313) Florian leaves Kraftwerk
I heard Kanye West is stepping in and they're gonna call it Kanyewerk - oh and he's bringing his auto-tune. ;) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist cyclonelou...@optusnet.com.au On 07/01/2009, at 1:49 AM, r...@rohformat.de wrote: Psst. This is already way more attention than the topic deserves. Happy new year, btw! :) Ronny
(313) Kanye's New LP
This may appear to be off topic but Kanye's new LP has a dance music ethos - pure minimal RB but with melody. Anyone here into? Kanye used to hang in Chi-town house clubs and he's worked with a house vocalist here in Oz, Connie Mitchell, on his last LP, incl Flashing Lights. Something is rubbing off!
Re: (313) Kanye's New LP
I have heard Saadiq is on fire live atm and the new material really comes to life there. On 01/12/2008, at 5:23 AM, Christian J. Hewstone wrote: Yeah, have been listening to it. the new Q-Tip album is also good. Especially Move produced by J Dilla, sort of moodymann house Raphael Saadiq is also worth listen On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may appear to be off topic but Kanye's new LP has a dance music ethos - pure minimal RB but with melody. Anyone here into? Kanye used to hang in Chi-town house clubs and he's worked with a house vocalist here in Oz, Connie Mitchell, on his last LP, incl Flashing Lights. Something is rubbing off!
Re: (313) Kanye's New LP
808s Heartbreak. On 01/12/2008, at 6:10 AM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: isn't the album called 808 something something? how is pop culture supposed to swallow use of the name of a drum machine? On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may appear to be off topic but Kanye's new LP has a dance music ethos - pure minimal RB but with melody. Anyone here into? Kanye used to hang in Chi-town house clubs and he's worked with a house vocalist here in Oz, Connie Mitchell, on his last LP, incl Flashing Lights. Something is rubbing off! -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
(313) Christian Vance
This is one of Melbourne's most interesting producers - his first release on Ripperton's label. Tell me what y'all think! He's heavily influenced by Detroit and has played (and toured) many a great name so you may pick up on that! http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=blog.viewfriendID=99687175blogID=447605789 Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) kraftwerk cancelled--heartattack
I think that's partly because there's widespread suspicion that the promoters were cancelling Kraftwerk as numbers were severely down on the event - there was that cynicism (unwarranted in this case). I was on the balcony near the stage and I didn't hear any boos, I heard shocked UHHHs!. Also every one thought the Gorillaz sound system was a big con. People on those forums are usually dumb hatas - fact. ;) That's not indicative. On 25/11/2008, at 3:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: regardless - something that disturbs me is the reaction that the crowd had in that video and then the responses on the website the first response I heard from the audience when the guy on stage said he had a heart attack was booing and someone yelling out bullsh*t the responses on the website discussion were basically saying if I could make it to the show why couldn't they play? one person even said - well, there's three remaining so they could play WTF is THAT??? someone states the guy had a *heart-attack* and people are angry at him and the band for not playing? regardless if it's true or not that sort of response is so f**king COLD and HEARTLESS I don't think Kraftwerk should make up these shows for people who care nothing for the health well being of the band and only care about themselves that audience and the people posting should be ashamed of themselves MEK \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/24/2008 10:40:04 AM: seems like heart attack would be too serious an illness to play the following night. also, anybody check the new larkin boxset ?! On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronson was OK! Sound a bit muffled but I enjoyed it. Rhymefest is a great MC from Chicago and Daniel Merriweather beats Timberlake any day in my book! But I had a horrible day too. if I hear anything about a make-up show by Kraftwerk I will post it. On 23/11/2008, at 2:17 PM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: Sorry I can't really understand your email without the use of commas or periods, but it sounds like kraftwerk had a heart attack? On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Samuel Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy I went to this really terrible festival called global gathering to see kraftwerk in melbourne australia stood around in terrible weather listening to other plod only to find out just before kraftwerk were meant to get on fritz had a heart attack and was rushed to hospital and then kraftwerk cancelled.. worst gig eva!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIzQU0rAXQ -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
(313) Kraftwerk Australia Update
this is from Global Gathering PR: Kraftwerk were in costume and ready to perform when Fritz was attended to by a doctor on site at Global Gathering Melbourne. Fritz had symptoms which lead the doctor to believe he might be prone to have a heart attack or stroke. As a precautionary measure he was taken to the Alfred hospital for further examination. Under these circumstances we have to think of the artist's state of health first and this was seen as a necessary measure to prevent these symptoms from developing further. He was discharged at approximately 12pm on Sunday. He then travelled to Perth and performed at Global Gathering to thousands of adoring fans.
Re: (313) kraftwerk cancelled--heartattack
The promoters are now denying it was a heart attack - or was even said. It could have been the MC Rhymefest who said it was a heart attack. I was too cold to take it in! But he didn't play Perth from what I understand, his son stepped in. On 24/11/2008, at 12:24 AM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: I always thought 2 second samples were fine, that was the golden rule. And who cares - on no! Kraftwerk lost their WHOLE careers cause some amateur rapper used 2 seconds of some random track of theirs, OH THE INSANITY! On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing in the mainstream press but there is this. Also see below: http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/aust/40542/ Illness_forces_Kraftwerk_to_miss_Melbourne_Gl obal_Gathering Illness forces Kraftwerk to miss Melbourne Global Gathering Kraftwerk miss Melbourne The first ever Global Gathering tour of Australia kicked off yesterday in Melbourne, but all did not go to plan with German electro godfathers Kraftwerk missing their headline set to due a sudden and very serious illness. Last night at the Melbourne Global Gathering event Kraftwerk band member, Fritz, was very unwell and was attended to by our onsite medical team, read a statement, issued today by Future Entertainment. On advice of the doctor, he did not play at the event as was transported to hospital for observation. Subsequently, Kraftwerk did not perform and the Gorillaz were moved to the main stage to play the closing set. Rhymefest, one of Mark Ronson's MCs, made the announcement to the waiting crowd, the statement continued. We're happy to announce that Fritz has been cleared to fly and will be playing at the Perth event today. Kraftwerk and Future Entertainment apologise to Kraftwerk fans who missed out on seeing this legendary outfit perform in Melbourne. === http://www.lawdit.co.uk/reading_room/room/view_article.asp?name=./ articles/1316-mc- Kraftwerk-loses-german-copyright-case.htm Kraftwerk loses Copyright case in Germany 21 November 2008 Kraftwerk loses German Copyright case The genius that is Kraftwerk suffered a blow this week when Germany's appeal court ruled that sampling music does not in principle violate copyright. The previous ruling ruled in Kraftwerk's favour which said that reusing even the shortest bit of a song infringed on copyright. While sampling is still an infringement the court found that the sample must be part of a completely new musical work bearing no resemblance to the original. The case concerned a German rap producer Moses Pelham who used a two-second sample from an early Kraftwerk classic Metal on Metal. Incidentally I saw Kraftwerk play with Nagsy at the Manchester Apollo in 1981. We were 15. They were jolly good. Michael Coyle is a Solicitor Advocate who specialises in information technology law and intellectual property law. He can be contacted on [EMAIL PROTECTED], his office number +44 (0) 2380 235979 or mobile 07976 724258 -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) kraftwerk cancelled--heartattack
Ronson was OK! Sound a bit muffled but I enjoyed it. Rhymefest is a great MC from Chicago and Daniel Merriweather beats Timberlake any day in my book! But I had a horrible day too. if I hear anything about a make-up show by Kraftwerk I will post it. On 23/11/2008, at 2:17 PM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: Sorry I can't really understand your email without the use of commas or periods, but it sounds like kraftwerk had a heart attack? On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Samuel Karmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy I went to this really terrible festival called global gathering to see kraftwerk in melbourne australia stood around in terrible weather listening to other plod only to find out just before kraftwerk were meant to get on fritz had a heart attack and was rushed to hospital and then kraftwerk cancelled.. worst gig eva!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIzQU0rAXQ -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) The Sincerest Form of Flattery
LOL, obvious innit - trance... Armin, Tiesto, Ferry... and/or Fedde le Grand... On 21/11/2008, at 1:16 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: More to the point, what are they 'resisting'? Something other than The State maybe -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:42 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) The Sincerest Form of Flattery http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=609125765#/pages/Dutch- Resistance /46587712256 I suppose any san-serif bold logo is going to echo Underground Resistance (and Detroit Techno Militia), but this looks like a conscious homage. Though the name 'Dutch Resistance' goes back to World War II http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_resistance
Re: (313) Detroit The Auto Industry
Jobs in that industry are going here too. The decline in the automobile industry was happening even before with soaring petrol costs. The American banks have slyly sold on a lot of their debts to international banks, including Australia, which has greater regulation so there's fury here. I am hearing fewer US DJs are likely to be booked here because of the exchange rate dropping. I am hoping that in the US any recession which would affect Detroit will be offset by the positives of an admin change. I imagine that Obama will cut international aid and militarisation to fund any of the programs he touted pre election, especially in health, but how he's gonna do it with the mess he's inherited is beyond me! On 13/11/2008, at 1:37 AM, kent williams wrote: I got to talk briefly with Terrence Parker when he played here Halloween night, and when I asked him about how things were in Detroit, he didn't talk about music or musicians -- he talked about the problems with the automotive industry. Now without getting into an off topic discussion on the economy, how is this going to affect the city? At this point, I don't know how much worse things could get, after all the body blows Detroit has taken in the past 40 years. But my love for the place makes me wonder how the place can go on if American automakers significantly downsize or outright fail. As it relates to music, all but the most successful musicians in Detroit have day jobs, and if the economy gets any worse, they're going to have to leave to survive ...
(313) Blade Runner OST
This is probably the most influential soundtrack ever for electronic buffs and now, to coincide with the film's 25th anniversary, it's been issued as a triple-CD set - you get the 1994 soundtrack album (remastered), a disk of previously unreleased bonus material, and new music by Vangelis inspired by Blade Runner. I haven't played the last 2 disks yet. ;) Out thru Warner. I figured someone here may be interested!
(313) Samuel L Sessions
Anyone heard him play lately? He's coming here but I haven't seen him in a few years.
(313) Morgan Geist Detroit EP
Forgive me if this came up before, anyone heard Morgan Geist's Detroit? Has two C2 remixes. http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=blog.ListAllfriendID=79410807
Re: (313) Danny Tenaglia
Maybe that's why he won't do phone interviews anymore as he vets questions in e-mailers. ;) On 12/09/2008, at 1:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: telepathic voodoo curses to Danny Tenaglia, Kevin McHugh, DeTour Tommy Boy music for licensing tracks for a flat fee of $500. and never paying. Mid Life Crisis / Curses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF1gAW3C04M
Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
I don't know how anyone makes a living in NZ. Even the daily newspapers don't pay freelancers, crying poor, and won't send you copies or tear sheets of published work. No wonder everyone worships Peter Jackson so much - probably being an extra in Lord Of The Rings is the one way people get fed over there with the catering vans! ;) On 09/09/2008, at 7:00 AM, Andy Mitchell wrote: Why no license fee waiver? Was it even an issue? Seems unlikely the ISP/website would even be anywhere near being sued for airing the tracks. Odd. They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and they do close people down for it. This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing their fees are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers podcasts or even streaming archived shows here unless they consist purely of talk. I was just being cheeky by calling Radio New Zealand out on it - they're not really a music station, as opposed to something like BBC's Radio 1 or 1Xtra for whom it's obviously worth the effort. Radio New Zealand do on occasion obtain artist waivers. There are some good live recordings of local and visiting artists here: http://www.radionz.co.nz/popular/music/live The music in Mike's interview wasn't all his though, so I guess they couldn't do it in this case. It is kinda crazy too, that they can archive music review features but only with all of the music cut out!! On the upside, my mate who is a proper UR fan also recorded an interview with Mike over the weekend, and it will be posted online once cut to some music tracks (we did a Theo Parrish one which was posted here a couple of years ago). Might take a minute, but I'll let you all know once it's ready...
(313) C2 Does Bowie
There is a cool new Bowie tribute Life Beyond Mars on Rapster. Apparently Carl Craig has contributed, as with Kelley Polar and Matthew Dear. You can hear audiofiles on Rapster's website (rapsterrecords.com?) I don't have a track list but it's probably online! This comp is from the same team behind Exit Music, the Radiohead tribute.
Re: (313) C2 Does Bowie
That's quite possible - I'm going by a presser and PRs always pounce on the big names! ;) Should be cool anyways. On 20/06/2008, at 1:16 PM, Dan Sicko wrote: From what I hear, it's essentially the Detroit band Zoos of Berlin doing the cover (they've been recording in Carl's studio), and then Carl did a mix/edit/something-or-other on it. Can't wait to hear it either way. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a cool new Bowie tribute Life Beyond Mars on Rapster. Apparently Carl Craig has contributed, as with Kelley Polar and Matthew Dear. You can hear audiofiles on Rapster's website (rapsterrecords.com?) I don't have a track list but it's probably online! This comp is from the same team behind Exit Music, the Radiohead tribute. - Dan Sicko Editor, Moodmat www.moodmat.com
Re: (313) Space Disco
Yeah I think there's an influence, even though his roots lie in country (!) On 08/06/2008, at 9:21 AM, Kowalsky wrote: He may claim or reject, whatever. He sounds retro, obviously. The disco sounds, be it space, italo, or even latin, are there. Don't you think? And i'm not talking as a casual disco listener. Kw On 07/06/2008, at 13:15, Cyclone Wehner wrote: To be fair to Lindstrom he rejects the space disco tag and feels it's a media buzz, the whole Norwegian cosmic disco 'sound' - only space disco homage he ever did he claims is I Feel Space. On 07/06/2008, at 5:45 AM, Michael Greenleaf wrote: Have you guys had the chance to hear John Arnold's and Jeremy Ellis's Nightlife that was played on Gilles Peterson for the last two weeks. This is a re-cut of the disco classic Night Life put our by Blair, one of the original members of the Blakbyrds. Not space disco, but it comes close. Good stuff... Quoting Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I posted here a mix a recorded, recently, with a lot of space disco and italo disco tunes. I love space disco originals, and was suposed to like Lindstrom's tracks. But they sound kinda generic in the end. Honestly? I prefer some of the Cloud releases or even some Italians Do It Better releases. Kw On 03/06/2008, at 15:30, Cyclone Wehner wrote: What do the Detroit fans here say on the cosmic sounds coming from Norway? I'm excited to hear Lindstrom's forthcoming album. Another Station is my favourite song of his - sublime - though everyone rates I Feel Space. Todd Terje too is up and coming and interesting. That crew is quietly eccentric (Todd is into pop like Madonna's La Isla Bonita) but they're making some lovely melodic electronic music that I could imagine appealing to fans of the more melodic side of techno (Mayday, Martian, Inner City etc).
Re: (313) Space Disco
He used to play in country outfits, that's all I'm saying. Also a Deep Purple tribute band. He came to disco/dance fairly late. His new album has one track that clocks in at 30 minutes (!) - thank God no country tracks do that (though it all sounds like one song to me!) I'm surprised he's not more popular or even respected in 313 circles, songs like Another Station are closer to some of the classic Detroit sounds than other current sounds. Certainly here it's appealing to the same crowds. All good though! On 10/06/2008, at 3:51 AM, pauley wrote: I feel space: F minor, A#major, Cmajor, F minoris that a country progression...? The tune seems to be in the key of Ab... Ding didlle liddle ding Yeah I think there's an influence, even though his roots lie in country (!) On 08/06/2008, at 9:21 AM, Kowalsky wrote: He may claim or reject, whatever. He sounds retro, obviously. The disco sounds, be it space, italo, or even latin, are there. Don't you think? And i'm not talking as a casual disco listener. Kw On 07/06/2008, at 13:15, Cyclone Wehner wrote: To be fair to Lindstrom he rejects the space disco tag and feels it's a media buzz, the whole Norwegian cosmic disco 'sound' - only space disco homage he ever did he claims is I Feel Space. On 07/06/2008, at 5:45 AM, Michael Greenleaf wrote: Have you guys had the chance to hear John Arnold's and Jeremy Ellis's Nightlife that was played on Gilles Peterson for the last two weeks. This is a re-cut of the disco classic Night Life put our by Blair, one of the original members of the Blakbyrds. Not space disco, but it comes close. Good stuff... Quoting Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I posted here a mix a recorded, recently, with a lot of space disco and italo disco tunes. I love space disco originals, and was suposed to like Lindstrom's tracks. But they sound kinda generic in the end. Honestly? I prefer some of the Cloud releases or even some Italians Do It Better releases. Kw On 03/06/2008, at 15:30, Cyclone Wehner wrote: What do the Detroit fans here say on the cosmic sounds coming from Norway? I'm excited to hear Lindstrom's forthcoming album. Another Station is my favourite song of his - sublime - though everyone rates I Feel Space. Todd Terje too is up and coming and interesting. That crew is quietly eccentric (Todd is into pop like Madonna's La Isla Bonita) but they're making some lovely melodic electronic music that I could imagine appealing to fans of the more melodic side of techno (Mayday, Martian, Inner City etc).
Re: (313) Space Disco
Can't beat Lindstrom's Another Station though. That is beautiful. Stuff on Italians Do It Better is good though. On 07/06/2008, at 5:01 AM, Kowalsky wrote: I posted here a mix a recorded, recently, with a lot of space disco and italo disco tunes. I love space disco originals, and was suposed to like Lindstrom's tracks. But they sound kinda generic in the end. Honestly? I prefer some of the Cloud releases or even some Italians Do It Better releases. Kw On 03/06/2008, at 15:30, Cyclone Wehner wrote: What do the Detroit fans here say on the cosmic sounds coming from Norway? I'm excited to hear Lindstrom's forthcoming album. Another Station is my favourite song of his - sublime - though everyone rates I Feel Space. Todd Terje too is up and coming and interesting. That crew is quietly eccentric (Todd is into pop like Madonna's La Isla Bonita) but they're making some lovely melodic electronic music that I could imagine appealing to fans of the more melodic side of techno (Mayday, Martian, Inner City etc).
Re: (313) Space Disco
To be fair to Lindstrom he rejects the space disco tag and feels it's a media buzz, the whole Norwegian cosmic disco 'sound' - only space disco homage he ever did he claims is I Feel Space. On 07/06/2008, at 5:45 AM, Michael Greenleaf wrote: Have you guys had the chance to hear John Arnold's and Jeremy Ellis's Nightlife that was played on Gilles Peterson for the last two weeks. This is a re-cut of the disco classic Night Life put our by Blair, one of the original members of the Blakbyrds. Not space disco, but it comes close. Good stuff... Quoting Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I posted here a mix a recorded, recently, with a lot of space disco and italo disco tunes. I love space disco originals, and was suposed to like Lindstrom's tracks. But they sound kinda generic in the end. Honestly? I prefer some of the Cloud releases or even some Italians Do It Better releases. Kw On 03/06/2008, at 15:30, Cyclone Wehner wrote: What do the Detroit fans here say on the cosmic sounds coming from Norway? I'm excited to hear Lindstrom's forthcoming album. Another Station is my favourite song of his - sublime - though everyone rates I Feel Space. Todd Terje too is up and coming and interesting. That crew is quietly eccentric (Todd is into pop like Madonna's La Isla Bonita) but they're making some lovely melodic electronic music that I could imagine appealing to fans of the more melodic side of techno (Mayday, Martian, Inner City etc).
(313) Space Disco
What do the Detroit fans here say on the cosmic sounds coming from Norway? I'm excited to hear Lindstrom's forthcoming album. Another Station is my favourite song of his - sublime - though everyone rates I Feel Space. Todd Terje too is up and coming and interesting. That crew is quietly eccentric (Todd is into pop like Madonna's La Isla Bonita) but they're making some lovely melodic electronic music that I could imagine appealing to fans of the more melodic side of techno (Mayday, Martian, Inner City etc).
Re: (313) Ellen Allien
You got it! Hey, it's 4.30 am here! ;) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 04/06/2008, at 4:42 AM, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Oh, it's AGF. Meh :( On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Smash TV this time, she worked with a Berlin noise producer... female... forget her name! -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisusa.com aim -mkbatwerk
Re: (313) Ellen Allien
No Smash TV this time, she worked with a Berlin noise producer... female... forget her name! Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 04/06/2008, at 4:38 AM, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Her signings Modeselektor are interesting too with their glitchy urban. Any thoughts? Why is it always Smash TV as coproducer for her albums? He never gets much credit, but when she works with Apparat, they share top billing. Poor Holger! -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisusa.com aim -mkbatwerk
(313) Ellen Allien
I don't recall a discussion of BPitch Control here but it's a very interesting label and I like Ellen's approach. She deserves her good standing. I'm not crazy about her new album Sool but I understand her experimental impulse with it. It's very subliminal, post minimal, with found sounds and an ambient quality. I really admire her Fabric mix - some melodic techno, minimal, BPitch fan Thom Yorke present... I recall seeing her at the Detroit festival a few years ago and thinking she was at a disadvantage playing in a large arena when her approach would suit a smaller space. Her signings Modeselektor are interesting too with their glitchy urban. Any thoughts?
Re: (313) juan and kraftwerk (was Re: (313) 313 - T)
A couple of years ago I learnt that the Fairlight synth, early sampler, was created in Sydney (Fairlight is a suburb) so maybe Sydney is the spiritual home of much of today's contemporary music (scary!) On 03/06/2008, at 3:52 AM, Kowalsky wrote: Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you again, but there is no logic in saying something would be this way if... You can say that kraftwerk had no influence, or that they influenced but not as much as people say or that they did influenced a lot. These 3 cases should lead us to a real debate. The if leads nowhere. Kw On 02/06/2008, at 14:05, Frank Glazer wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed. That was exactly my point. If you ask me, it proves that Detroit techno would have existed even if Kraftwerk had not existed, because Juan said he was already doing techno before hearing kraftwerk! On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: remember that argument we were all having recently about whether techno would have happened without kraftwerk? the comment that sparked it was Juan and Kevin and Derrick might have had had some difficulty without the Germans (this was in the context of who belongs on a techno mount rushmore alongside the belleville three) well, i was just reading an article from the march 1999 issue of (now defunct) muzik magazine. it was an ongoing feature in which they'd have a techno personality come up with a list of favorite songs for a hypothetical mixtape. juan atkins was featured in this particular do us a tape and he said this: track 9: kraftwerk - numbers - warner brothers: I froze in my tracks when I heard this. It was on the radio one night and I was like 'what is this?' **I was making music already, doing totally electronic recordings and the similarities freaked me out.** I used to go to the music store and just play around with the synthesiser. I think it had the same impact on music as the electric guitar did when that was introduced. You could do anything with it - your imagination was the limit. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) Robyn: speaking of non-313 music
I totally concur with Andrew! I've spoken to Robyn a couple of times over the years, once when she was a kid. She is an incredible live performer, she really rips, has an amazing voice. She has totally taken control of her own business and is v hands on. She had a major trying to turn her into something else. She's super intelligent - her parents are involved in avant garde theatre. Her club shows here in Melbourne (she's toured 3 times in the last year) sold out on word of mouth. I think the album is kinda like Madonna/ Jellybean era - but Robyn is a superior singer. She belongs to a new wave of plucky female acts like Santogold, MIA, who are very much striking out on their own. BTW she wasn't as into the Basement Jaxx song but I thought that rocked - it samples an Eastern European gypsy tune. Hey U, it is called I think. She took the name Konichiwa from a skit by Dave Chappelle as she is a big fan. She actually broke through in the US with her debut album in the mid-90s and was described as a white Mary J, but I think she felt very uncomfortable being seen as RB at all. She's a real sweetie. On 13/05/2008, at 4:27 AM, Andrew Duke wrote: Speaking of non-313 music (re: mentions of Crystal Castles and Four Tet), I've been thoroughly enjoying the self-titled 4th album from Sweden's Robyn. Am telling everybody about it I can (see more below), to be honest. It has been available since 2005, but has only been out in North America for the last couple of weeks. Every track is solid; out of 14 tracks, 8 have been issued as a single somewhere. One of the official remixes of Snoop Doog's recently-mentioned-on-this-list song Sensual Seducation/Sexual Eruption features Robyn on vocals as does Britney Spears' Piece Of Me, so you might have already heard her voice. Plus she's sung on tracks for numerous others including Basement Jaxx. Anyway, if you don't know her story, she did 3 albums (since 1997) for major labels and struck out on her own with her own Konichiwa label for this new album after getting fed up with her majors. She's been writing and performing her own songs since she was 13; yes it is pop music, but it with a fresh take on the music (producers range from The Knife to Klaus Ahlund to Kleerup) and her lyrics--again, written by herself--are a twist on the usual pap of Britney, Christina, et al. Example choruses that the other female pop artists wouldn't be able to pull off: my new favorite thing to do/is wasting my time with a bum like you; I should have seen it coming down/I should have f*ckin' known; who's that girl that you think you love/I know there's no such girl. She's known for performing acoustic versions of her dance songs, too, which you wouldn't see many doing. And she does it very well. I'd liken her to Neneh Cherry (a big fave of mine, and there's news Cherry will have a new album out by the end of the year) before I'd compare her to Britney, Christina, et al, actually. And she's smart about her remixers: Drop The Lime does a take on her current single, for example, Jori Hulkkonen has done a mix, etc. Her myspace page currently has her newest North American single, a medley of the 3 remixes of it, a cover of The Police's Message In A Bottle, the Snoop Dogg remix she's featured on, and clips from every track on the album. I could go on and on, but hopefully if you haven't already heard her material, you'll check these links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robyn http://www.myspace.com/robynmyspace http://www.robyn.com/ http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=robynsearch_type= Andrew -- Andrew Duke--sound design/recording/composition/production courses: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html Andrew Duke--Chain Reaction downloadable sound FX samplepack: http://www.audiobase.com/product/SACR Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User album: http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40 Andrew Duke--columns/features/commentaries/more: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html http://linkedin.com/in/AndrewDukeCognitionAudioworks http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew_Duke/852160229 http://myspace.com/AndrewDuke http://myspace.com/CognitionAudioworks
Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313
I went to his performance at ACMI here - he performs a live score to a collage of found film entitled Tiny Colour Movies - and it was superb! He produces the most beautiful melodic techno ambient sounds. He did a QA after and spoke of how, while he loves old film, he feels more comfortable with digital technology for music-making as analog is less reliable. That said, he uses both. I noticed that there were lots of Gary Numan fans there and everyone was discussing the Yaz(oo) reunion. I also saw a few dudes around 20 in Presets style stovepipes. ;) Interesting experience. I think you can buy the score to TCM on his website - definitely worth checking. He was also talking of how cityscapes inspire him - the brutalism of London architecture in the '70s inspired his Metamatic songs more than any contemplation of the future. He came from the gritty North to London in the '70s and it was real culture shock. That's all I recall for now! On 10/05/2008, at 1:14 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: We had one John Foxx record when I was a kid, I think it's still at my mum dad's place: http://www.discogs.com/release/27367 I thought it was a pile of pants. [Even as a minor Ultravox fan]. I can't remember who bought it, but it wasn't me. I was well put-off from that point. I've never knowingly heard another by Foxx since, I'm afraid. But I feel bad for neglecting. So if anyone has any must-listens, starting points etc, I would really, really appreciate it if you posted 'em here. Ta und happy Friday. Ken -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:25 AM To: 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313 Cyclone Wehner wrote: All this stuff is great. It's funny as Foxx's camp claims different. I gather Foxx didn't like Ultravox much with Midge but I really loved that era of theirs. Midge's daughter has a band now, been meaning to Google them. Please, do not blaspheme I will not hear of Ultrasheen Metamatic's on the decks Ure is just a load of dreck - Greg (still waiting to hear about Foxx's influence on 313)
Re: (313) Walk a mile im my shoes
Coldcut with Robert Owen on vox Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 09/05/2008, at 3:05 PM, ralph gill wrote: Is this techno? Coldcut and someone else...is that detroit? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.10/1421 - Release Date: 5/7/2008 5:23 PM
Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313
All this stuff is great. It's funny as Foxx's camp claims different. I gather Foxx didn't like Ultravox much with Midge but I really loved that era of theirs. Midge's daughter has a band now, been meaning to google them. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 07/05/2008, at 9:21 PM, theREALmxyzptlk wrote: I think Numan has identified Foxx as an influence, ironically. Foxx was leading Ultravox before Gary appeared on the scene. I'll try to dig up the source, but I believe Numan had the lead on synth work and actually tutored Foxx in that light. Ultravox wasn't nearly as synth-laden in the early days (it becomes more predominant in Systems of Romance), and ironically, both Ultravox and Foxx become much more synthesized AFTER Foxx left Ultravox and Ure took his place. Billy Currie seemed much more in the spotlight after Use stepped in. jeff
Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313
There's some great interviews with Foxx on his MySpace with links in the blogs, I haven't read them all but I will. I think there's an interesting bio on his site. I am really loving all these posts, thanks guys! On 07/05/2008, at 9:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, the beauty of 313! These replies are really interesting, I'd connected these 2 guys for years but thought that was just in my head (and that they were roughly contemporary). But the below and Cyclone's post about Numan (sorry for earlier spelling!) citing Foxx as an influence show something more substantial. Not sure how to square the 2 though - as Cyclone mentions he was fronting Ultravox before Numan came on the scene? Just been off to check Discogs and Cars was 1979, Ha Ha Ha '77. I thought the gap was bigger. Maybe John was a fast learner ;-) From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2008 12:14 The legend has it that Numan *taught* Foxx to play synth
Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313
And Currie was largely behind Visage as well - I am a bit foggy on that but I know Ultravox post Foxx were basically the architects of Visage with Steve Strange. On 07/05/2008, at 9:47 PM, theREALmxyzptlk wrote: Yup - at least I'm clear that I read details about it back when it was happening. I was moonlighting as a records store clerk in charge of ordering imports in the mid-late 70s/early 80s and I kept up on everything of that nature back then. I also had a friend who dated the Warners record rep who met Numan (traveling then with his mum and dad - they all had tea and cookies together after a Detroit show!)and talked with him about it. Let me dig a bit after finishing up some leftover student-interaction from last night (first class of the mew term) and I'll see if I can pry up something. It seems like I have found something of a confession by Foxx online somewhere. I believe Numan taught Foxx how to use a certain kind of synth. I know Billy Currie actually handled the synths in Ultravox! and he played in Numan's band after Foxx left. jeff I think Numan has identified Foxx as an influence, ironically. Foxx was leading Ultravox before Gary appeared on the scene. I'll try to dig up the source, but I believe Numan had the lead on synth work and actually tutored Foxx in that light. Ultravox wasn't nearly as synth-laden in the early days (it becomes more predominant in Systems of Romance), and ironically, both Ultravox and Foxx become much more synthesized AFTER Foxx left Ultravox and Ure took his place. Billy Currie seemed much more in the spotlight after Use stepped in. You sure about that Jeff? Ultravox released stuff in 77 with synths, a year before Numan. m
(313) John Foxx Influence On 313
Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic was re-released last year I believe.
Re: (313) John Foxx Influence On 313
I think Numan has identified Foxx as an influence, ironically. Foxx was leading Ultravox before Gary appeared on the scene. In fact Ultravox worked with Brian Eno before Bowie approached him for Low. He performs old Ultravox stuff in his set (ie pre Midge Ure), his seminal records Underpass Burning Car, and some later material. He is also doing a live score to his Tiny Colour Movies in Melbourne at ACMI on Friday night if anyone is around! Foxx's MySpace and site are pretty cool. Juan and Carl are even mentioned in his bio so he's obviously aware of Detroit sounds. Also I read an amazing interview with Numan in Mojo lately where he discussed his having Asperger's syndrome, a kind of autism from what I understand - totally changes your understanding of his music. Deep, eh? On 07/05/2008, at 1:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was certainly a guy who caught my attention at the time and I went on liking for time afterward. I liked The Garden LP best I think. When I first saw Gary Newman on Top Of The Pops I thought hey, he looks like he's trying to rip off that other guy from a few weeks back's style ;-) From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2008 15:57 Has anyone seen John Foxx's recent live shows? He must be a significant influence on techno and electro but most of my geeky buddies don't know his work at all! I think Gary Numan gets more props. That actually would have been a good act to bill for the festival, but admittedly he's obscure for a wider audience. Metamatic was re-released last year I believe.
Re: (313) Snoop
The album is pretty cool actually. It's largely produced by Teddy Riley and DJ Quik in conjunction with Snoop and has a vintage 80s feel. I have heard the single played out in housey clubs here. Even Moodymann has played Kanye's Flashlight - which features an Australian singer Connie Mitchell from Sneaky Sound System - which in some ways has the same feel. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/04/2008, at 11:12 PM, robin wrote: Anyone heard that new Snoop Dog record (Sensual Seduction)? Sounds like they've listened to Derrick's back catalogue (maybe Juan too for the beats). Chart cheese I know but when pop music tips it's hat to Detroit in some way I always find it interesting. robin...
Re: (313) Snoop
Chad Hugo is well familiar with techno house... even Kanye used to work with E-Smoove. Most of those RB producers are familiar with house and dance. Lil' Jon too. On 14/04/2008, at 11:56 PM, Dan Bean wrote: Drop It Like It's Hot is a bad tune! The best thing he and Pharrell have done, separately or together imo (with the possible exception of Grindin). My abiding memory of Tresor during its closing parties is of an enourmous transvestite playing Drop It in that tiny little bar room upstairs. That was the point when I got The Neptunes and them being 'techno'. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 April 2008 14:42 To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Snoop He needs to go back to the 'heights' of Drop It Like It's Hot and Murder Was The Case Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 April 2008 14:40 To: Robert Taylor; Dan Bean; robin; 313 313 Subject: RE: (313) Snoop It 'tries' but is not that good really. I prefer Snoop when he's not trying to be underground (sort of) Detroit. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 2:31 PM To: Dan Bean; robin; 313 313 Subject: RE: (313) Snoop I think it's one of the vilest things I've ever heard Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 April 2008 14:20 To: robin; 313 313 Subject: RE: (313) Snoop I thought something similar when I first heard it. Not so much of Juan and Derrick in there but definitely a healthy dose of early eighties synthy RnB and a dash of Bernie Worrell. I even quite liked it at first, at least up to the bit where he raps, but I'm sick to death of it now since they play it about 5 times a day at work. -Original Message- From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 April 2008 14:12 To: 313 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Snoop Anyone heard that new Snoop Dog record (Sensual Seduction)? Sounds like they've listened to Derrick's back catalogue (maybe Juan too for the beats). Chart cheese I know but when pop music tips it's hat to Detroit in some way I always find it interesting. robin... ## ## [The entire original message is not included]
Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar
It's a cover. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 06/04/2008, at 3:10 AM, Christopher O'Grady wrote: Sebastien Leger - Jaguar (Original Mix) is #1 on beatport... *Original Mix ? UR is not mentioned. The artist field only shows Mr. Leger. *Scratches chin* __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: (313) Moby's New Album: Anyone Give It A Listen?
Yeah, I did. He's trying to get on the nu rave/retro 90s thing. It's OK for what it is. I prefer other new rave acts though like Klaxons, a guilty pleasure of mine. I guess Moby's is more electronic. I expect to hear songs on ads for the next year. On 04/04/2008, at 4:00 AM, Arturo Lopez wrote: With all the arguably justifiable Moby hating going on, was curious if anyone had actually listened to his new album and had any thoughts. Just gave it a quick run through, sounds par for the course to me. It's pitch-perfect for a 1994 Moby album, ie: it's terrible. Lots of piano rolls and overpowering synth pads thrown at you from every location. Only thing it's missing is some Helium-Pitched chipmunk voice samples telling the raver massive to dance! Disco Lies is probably the best of the bunch, but that's not saying much. It's a good pop song though, and can get stuck in your head if you aren't careful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEw3m_41ig Expect to see these songs on 800 TV commercials in 3...2...1 Anyway now back to Rob Hood's Fabric, so I can wash the bad moby taste out of my ears. : ) -Arturo
(313) Phil Kieran
Would this DJ appeal to techno lovers - worth going to?
Re: (313) theo in australia next week 4th 5th april
He's coming out with Red Bull Music Academy so there is a free lecture on first. It was just announced after Easter. I can send Melb dets to anyone interested but it's best I send off 313 as 313 doesn't like some of the scripts these pressers use. I think Theo has all dates on his Myspace as well. He's also playing Perth. There should be an interview by a Perth guy in Drum mag Perth this week. On 27/03/2008, at 9:52 PM, Samuel Karmel wrote: just a heads up cause its seems to have been kept real quiet but theo is playin aus next week as part of some red bull thing sydney on 4th and melbs on 5th i'm excited hope he does a twenty hour [EMAIL PROTECTED] apparently he plays dub step trancecore now? later gaters Sam
Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08
The story should be on threedworld Syd, but I can't find it! They only put some stories online. We had been talking about minimal and how he didn't feel the new music and preferred the original classics as they're better produced. It was for his new Renaissance CD which I think has some Transmat music on it. Tom is a bit of a maverick - he did these covers comps that some people loathed but he happily admits to liking cheesy *and* more intellectual stuff. ( I myself get different kind of pleasure out of both The Martian and Girl Talk/ Justice, it's possible!) It was a bit truncated the story but they're the main quotes below. On 26/03/2008, at 7:20 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: wow. tom middleton just lost 1000 cool points in my eyes. how could he possibly give josh wink credit for minimal music!? the new wave qualification does not justify the complete disregard for dan and rob, not to mention basic channel? i guess, though, in a way, he's right. if we're talking about mediocre detroit minimal techno wannabes, josh wink did sort of trailblaze that movement. funny thing is, i actually really still love josh wink's older records, quite in spite of myself. and tom middleton has done enough brilliant work in my opinion to maintain some respect for him. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He told me himself actually. Quotes are below. I think you could find the original story I wrote on 3d world mag's site. He was mainly raving how much he loves Jon Hopkins who I actually am enjoying too now. Tom did an album late last year that I think is quite enjoyable. Josh Wink doesn't get the props that he deserves. He more or less created this whole new sound and, for the most part, it's been appropriated across Europe. If you look at his style, and trace it back a few years, he's probably one of the first of the new wave to really focus on this stripped-down minimal house vibe. He's still the king for me. On 26/03/2008, at 2:47 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: cyclone where'd you read that bit about middleton on wink? On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Michael.Elliot- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, that sounds like a backhanded compliment to me Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/25/2008 10:30:37 PM: the idea of tom middleton giving that much respect to wink makes me kind of queasy. then again, perhaps it's not respect per se. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Middleton reckons it's Wink who is the real architect of the current sound so big in Europe. Interesting theory... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/03/2008, at 6:43 AM, diana potts wrote: I'm not hating on him- as said, I completely respect the music he has made and the energy he created in Philadelphia (though he plays there on such a rare basis anymore). I consider he and Nigel intelligent individuals who have seen more than my eyeballs ever will. I really wasn't aware of any image he has considering I don't go out or listen to recent downloads, etc.. I think it just takes a lot to get me getty about anyone, anywhere anymore. Show me creativity, do something else than a someone on a stage with finalscratch and a laptop. no hatin', all love but for the sake of discussion... --- Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't really understand why so many people hate on josh wink. his set at demf 06 left me cod but i really enjoy a lot of his records, and i've heard him play some really great dj sets too. i think a lot of people hate on him, frankly, simply because of his image. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:20 PM, diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *braces self* I haven't seen Josh Wink play lately, but his music is not exactly a motivator. I completely admire what Josh built in Philly in the past with others. maybe Josh Wink battling it up live with Carl Craig. No preprogrammed weapons- just two men, turntables and some buttons. love from glasgow, d --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iny dont they just call it ultra. On 3/25/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saw it on another message board and checked his myspace page http://www.myspace.com/joshwink May 26 2008 8:00P WiNK @ DEMF, Detroit(To Be Confirmed) Detroit, Michigan Oh yeah, and Dubfire http://www.myspace.com/djdubfire May 26 2008 8:00P DEMF @ Hart Plaza Detroit exciting! not. tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY _ _ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- peace, frank dj mix
Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally
I don't think Moby is in fashion, he he. On 26/03/2008, at 1:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like Moby's new album - it's a commercial pop hacked up hairball terribly predictable if you are aware of what's in fashion except if you consider the track Every Day is 1989 in which Moby brings back the old rave piano progression and sounds like him trying to revive Feeling So Real He does this again on the tune The Stars except he adds a bit of the ol' Hoover - yeah, Hoover sounds I recall an article that came out around the time of Animal Rights where he was basically lambasting people like the Aphex Twin and lamenting the death of piano use in dance music and it was for this reason he quit the dance music scene (as Moby) man, Moby's album is pure rubbish (listening to it now) it's pure pop-trance/hi-nrg/rave nostalgia nonsense and you just know he's going to be playing this stuff because it's going to come out April 1st and every Moby fan is going to be wetting themselves MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/25/2008 08:52:47 PM: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: The Hiro night's feature a combination of bottle service for the yuppie corporate party crowd and the art school / hipster / nyu electro - indie - hipsterclash music, a la justice / nu-rave / daft punk, etc. Looks like Moby is looking for some action. sounds promising if you like nonsense. tom
Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally
Ah, Natalie is a globally recognised, credible actor... wealthy, successful and running her own business (vegan shoes counts, right?)... ;) Plus intelligent, educated principled. Not all women are *that* dumb, even with the mainstream's cult of the bimbo. ;) He should have dated Ellen Alien for cred. ;) On 26/03/2008, at 1:18 PM, Michael Kuszynski wrote: hes a globally recognized, successful, and for whatever it's worth more-underground-than-many once-electronic then-pseudo-smart-pop musician and marketer. He is wealthy, successful, and runs a series of businesses. Last I heard, those are not characteristics that make women run for the hills. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't know how he managed to date Natalie Portman... ;) On 26/03/2008, at 12:52 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Hiro night's feature a combination of bottle service for the yuppie corporate party crowd and the art school / hipster / nyu electro - indie - hipsterclash music, a la justice / nu-rave / daft punk, etc. Looks like Moby is looking for some action. sounds promising if you like nonsense. tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08
It's odd in light of the fact that he must realise it all goes back to Bell - and Hood/Mills... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/03/2008, at 2:30 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: the idea of tom middleton giving that much respect to wink makes me kind of queasy. then again, perhaps it's not respect per se. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Middleton reckons it's Wink who is the real architect of the current sound so big in Europe. Interesting theory... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/03/2008, at 6:43 AM, diana potts wrote: I'm not hating on him- as said, I completely respect the music he has made and the energy he created in Philadelphia (though he plays there on such a rare basis anymore). I consider he and Nigel intelligent individuals who have seen more than my eyeballs ever will. I really wasn't aware of any image he has considering I don't go out or listen to recent downloads, etc.. I think it just takes a lot to get me getty about anyone, anywhere anymore. Show me creativity, do something else than a someone on a stage with finalscratch and a laptop. no hatin', all love but for the sake of discussion... --- Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't really understand why so many people hate on josh wink. his set at demf 06 left me cod but i really enjoy a lot of his records, and i've heard him play some really great dj sets too. i think a lot of people hate on him, frankly, simply because of his image. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:20 PM, diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *braces self* I haven't seen Josh Wink play lately, but his music is not exactly a motivator. I completely admire what Josh built in Philly in the past with others. maybe Josh Wink battling it up live with Carl Craig. No preprogrammed weapons- just two men, turntables and some buttons. love from glasgow, d --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iny dont they just call it ultra. On 3/25/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saw it on another message board and checked his myspace page http://www.myspace.com/joshwink May 26 2008 8:00P WiNK @ DEMF, Detroit(To Be Confirmed) Detroit, Michigan Oh yeah, and Dubfire http://www.myspace.com/djdubfire May 26 2008 8:00P DEMF @ Hart Plaza Detroit exciting! not. tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http:// mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
(313) Robert Hood's Fabric
Any thoughts? I am really enjoying.
Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally
Some of these names we get on summer festivals here all the time - eg Benny Benassi, stealer of Carl's Grammy. ;) At first I thought this could be an April Fool's day joke with Moby mentioned. It's very populist but I can imagine it wouldn't attract Europeans or Aussies so much. I saw Joris here on the weekend. He's Jeff Mills 'breakthrough DJ'. It was very good but maybe lost momentum towards the end. Dubfire is ultra prog these days. Girls Talk is fun but unlikely to impress purists - he's more your Modular/Vice Records type cat. Cassy isn't that chick on Bad Boy misspelt, is it? The model Cassie? ;) Egyptian Lover is cool! On 26/03/2008, at 8:02 AM, kent williams wrote: I assume the trance artists are the names I don't recognize, because the names I do I'm very excited to see. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since when are trance and progressive djs booked for demf. On 3/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALEX UNDER ?live ALTON MILLER BENNY BENASSI BUZZ GOREE CARL CRAIG CASSY COBBLESTONE JAZZ ?live COOL KIDS ?live DBX ?live DUBFIRE EGYPTIAN LOVER ?live GIRL TALK ?live GUILLAUME THE COUTU DUMONTS -live HALF HAWAII ?live JAMES ZABIELA JORIS VOORN ?live KONRAD BLACK MATHIAS KADEN ?live MIKE GRANT MINX MOBY -dj set NEWCLEUS -live SPEEDY J -live with Scott Pagano VJ TECH ITCH TERRENCE PARKER ZIP some good - some meh - some sh*t as we've come to expect MEK -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08
Tom Middleton reckons it's Wink who is the real architect of the current sound so big in Europe. Interesting theory... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 26/03/2008, at 6:43 AM, diana potts wrote: I'm not hating on him- as said, I completely respect the music he has made and the energy he created in Philadelphia (though he plays there on such a rare basis anymore). I consider he and Nigel intelligent individuals who have seen more than my eyeballs ever will. I really wasn't aware of any image he has considering I don't go out or listen to recent downloads, etc.. I think it just takes a lot to get me getty about anyone, anywhere anymore. Show me creativity, do something else than a someone on a stage with finalscratch and a laptop. no hatin', all love but for the sake of discussion... --- Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't really understand why so many people hate on josh wink. his set at demf 06 left me cod but i really enjoy a lot of his records, and i've heard him play some really great dj sets too. i think a lot of people hate on him, frankly, simply because of his image. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:20 PM, diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *braces self* I haven't seen Josh Wink play lately, but his music is not exactly a motivator. I completely admire what Josh built in Philly in the past with others. maybe Josh Wink battling it up live with Carl Craig. No preprogrammed weapons- just two men, turntables and some buttons. love from glasgow, d --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iny dont they just call it ultra. On 3/25/08, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saw it on another message board and checked his myspace page http://www.myspace.com/joshwink May 26 2008 8:00P WiNK @ DEMF, Detroit(To Be Confirmed) Detroit, Michigan Oh yeah, and Dubfire http://www.myspace.com/djdubfire May 26 2008 8:00P DEMF @ Hart Plaza Detroit exciting! not. tom -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http:// mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: (313) Josh Wink @ Movment 08
He does edit kinda things. It's programmed. It's fun, tongue in cheek, the way he does it. He has his place. On 26/03/2008, at 6:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: his music? I though he just played other people's and claimed it as his own MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/25/2008 02:53:54 PM: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fxcking girl talk?! ...whatevs... i hate that that guy is from pittsburgh. what a piece of sh*t. people who listen to his music are stupid. tom
Re: (313) DEMF some names announced finally
I still don't know how he managed to date Natalie Portman... ;) On 26/03/2008, at 12:52 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Hiro night's feature a combination of bottle service for the yuppie corporate party crowd and the art school / hipster / nyu electro - indie - hipsterclash music, a la justice / nu-rave / daft punk, etc. Looks like Moby is looking for some action. sounds promising if you like nonsense. tom
Re: (313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit
Isn't Marco Passarani from Rome? He's great. Such a beautiful city, too - lovely people. ;) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/03/2008, at 6:27 AM, fab. wrote: hi will it be possible for those of us that won't go to Movement to buy one? on a side note, i was a little bit disappointed that rome wasn't on there, but I guess Rome's 313 legacy is slightly dated and not too hyped... fab ps: did you manage to recover your luggage? - Original Message - From: Todd Sines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: (313) t-shirt update + upcoming dates in Detroit so just a heads up we have a whopping 23 Yay's for the t-shirt [including those who want the 1 and /or 2-sided [more like a wraparound shirt] http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_1sided.pdf http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapF.pdf http://www.scale.gs/client/313/313_shirts02_maps_wrapB.pdf My minimum order was going to be at least 100 so I hope a few of you other hundred [or least 77] lurkers rise to the occasion. If that's it then I may be forced to get into the business of offering the shirts at a standard rate for $15-20 each. On a side note; 04 April 2008 - I'm DJing with Todd Osborn Brian Gillespie for return of FAMILY at OSLO [1486 Woodward Ave, Detroit, MI 48226]. 07 April 2008 - I'm doing a production discussion at SUBMERGE for Red Bull Music Academy in Detroit. I'll be going over the changes in production methods over the years, scratching the surface on my techniques with Logic, Live, and incorporating it with the right hardware tools. Let me know if you're in attending and I can forward you the information about signing up. Thanks, +odd
(313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar
Sebastien Leger has done a cover of Jaguar with UR's blessing apparently. You can hear it on his myspace... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar
www.myspace.com/sebastienleger Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/03/2008, at 3:50 AM, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Linky? On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastien Leger has done a cover of Jaguar with UR's blessing apparently. You can hear it on his myspace... Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar
I am surprised, I don't think Leger has a huge association with Detroit - he's highly critical of the French 'noise' sound electro- house but I am unsure if he's entirely extricated himself from it! Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/03/2008, at 3:58 AM, robin wrote: On 11 Mar 2008, at 16:50, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: Linky? http://www.myspace.com/sebastienleger I think I'd say this was a little redundant. The original was so good, and is now so totally rinsed I'm not sure anyone would drop this. robin...
Re: (313) Sebastien Leger's Jaguar
Ben Watt doing it would've been cool. But he wouldn't. He is at least someone who seems to express a greater affinity to those kind of sensibilities. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/03/2008, at 4:00 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:58 PM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I'd say this was a little redundant. The original was so good, and is now so totally rinsed I'm not sure anyone would drop this. there are so many good UR joints to try covering too, its not as if that is the only one worth doing. tom
Re: (313) Best LP Theo Didn't Do
I am feeling it but it's definitely influenced bigtime by KDJ and Theo. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 06/03/2008, at 6:19 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trus'me, Working Nights Anyone know about this dude? Or heard it? I know it's from Manchester, on Fat City. It's excellent. Deep soulful house with Marvin samples and a Maxwell/Leon Ware feel verging into techno. too derivative. not really feeling it. tom
(313) Best LP Theo Didn't Do
Trus'me, Working Nights Anyone know about this dude? Or heard it? I know it's from Manchester, on Fat City. It's excellent. Deep soulful house with Marvin samples and a Maxwell/Leon Ware feel verging into techno.
Re: (313) Carl Craig Track
Ah yes, thanks so much people. Actually Duran's John Taylor and Nick Rhodes assembled a great ol' skool mixtape a couple of years ago I would recommend with tracks by John Foxx and the like (on Amazon). Nick used to DJ at the Brum nightspot Rum Runner in the late '70s. It's a great listen and houses some lesser known New Wave and synth- pop. Roger has DJed a bit in recent years. They're lovely guys, too, as I have spoken to them for mags a couple of times and found them very au fait with house. I still argue that their music is more interesting than Depeche Mode's... On 04/03/2008, at 11:40 PM, robin wrote: I think the reflex sample just appears at the start. robin.. On 4 Mar 2008, at 03:55, Richard Hester wrote: I thought that Free Your Mind sampled Shut Up and Dance's Dance Before the Police Come, though they (PJ and Smiley) may have ripped their sample from Duran Duran for all I know. They certainly sampled just about everybody else - check the remix of that track and guess who they sampled..
(313) Carl Craig Track
Can anyone remember the track he did that samples Duran Duran and what track he sampled?
Re: (313) moichandising! moichandising!
Where can you get the Tiesto sucks! I want one. Can you send me the link? On 19/02/2008, at 3:53 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: I am so annoyed by the fact that I could, if I wanted to, which I don't, purchase both DJ Tiesto and Tiesto Sucks t-shirts in my size online, but I can't get one for Sound Signature (not to mention their website is completely down?) nor Planet E nor Underground Resistance, nor Moods N Grooves, nor a number of others I went looking for. I want to represent labels that I stand behind, but they're not helping me out! Does anybody know of any good label sites that carry merchandise too? peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT
The Grammies is pretty out of touch with grassroots, we all agree on that I am sure. I am glad Amy Winehouse was recognised but the Chemicals winning best electronic album - it's right out of line with even the commercial dance scene. LCD should have got it, maybe Justice. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/02/2008, at 5:32 PM, M Ng wrote: I agree with Kent. Selling out is about compromising values. I will also add - An artist has to eat - and it's great that they have other means of income other than just make records. Better something cool like an adidas ad, than say flipping burgers or being stuck in an office. Face it, not much $ is being made on making records. I have NFI really about a grammy. if you get nominated, it'd be sweet to get a chance to win one. I'm sure there is a lot of politicking and bias etc going on, but if I were an artist and people appreciated my recordings and nominated me, I wouldn't be complaining. And I dont' think you'd be either. On Feb 13, 2008 9:15 PM, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a good thing. I still don't know about Benny and that Grammy though??? C'mon! Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/02/2008, at 1:12 AM, Carlos de Brito wrote: it is the 4th time this video pops up here ;) btw: i'm still wondering why, but adidas is not the only major company that discovered theo parrish for their marketing activities. in april he will be in germany (with omar-s and robert owens) for a Coke DJ Culture Tour: http://brandbooking.org/? section=tour+%26+dates c* Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:20:08 - Von: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: RE: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT We 313ers should all watch it I think. I did post it to the list over a week ago though. Keep up! ;-) -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2008 12:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dydtXJ94CE For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information. Telegraph Media Group Limited is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales (company number 451593). Our registered office address is: 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT.
Re: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT
This is a good thing. I still don't know about Benny and that Grammy though??? C'mon! Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 14/02/2008, at 1:12 AM, Carlos de Brito wrote: it is the 4th time this video pops up here ;) btw: i'm still wondering why, but adidas is not the only major company that discovered theo parrish for their marketing activities. in april he will be in germany (with omar-s and robert owens) for a Coke DJ Culture Tour: http://brandbooking.org/? section=tour+%26+dates c* Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:20:08 - Von: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: RE: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT We 313ers should all watch it I think. I did post it to the list over a week ago though. Keep up! ;-) -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2008 12:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Theo Parrish in Adidas AdverT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dydtXJ94CE For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information. Telegraph Media Group Limited is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales (company number 451593). Our registered office address is: 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT.
Re: (313) the king of techno on downloading
Ah, bless. That has to be May. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 06/02/2008, at 1:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. May? I can't get either link to work - maybe there's tech problem as I can't get through by searching Myspace either. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 February 2008 13:04 http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=blog.viewfriendID=51930230blogID=354791996 Tuesday, February 05, 2008 the last days Current mood: amused Category: Music http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=blog.viewCategoryFriendID=51930230BlogCategoryID=15 what a boring time to be a Dj , no more record shops, sitting on line listening to downloads is the most irritating thing Ive had to do in a long time,(WHACK IS THE WORD) the worst thing is to download a track thinking it might be hot only to play it and its shit, there is no way listening to a track on a computer on the fly ( IN A HURRY) is the same as bangin it on a system to get the feel. This is not the future myself and Juan Atkins envisioned , but it is what it is,,,ain't it! ill keep bangin vinyl till its no more ,Cd's i can live with but downloads i ain't down for the load mofoes look like there checking there email . welcome to the bland future.
Re: (313) derrick may rarities
I think it was the fact it was unauthorised. You could probably google an old interview. I know he told me years ago he wasn't into Rap's. I didn't mind it but the source material was good! Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 30/01/2008, at 7:16 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Well I've never heard that one and would love to. -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 January 2008 02:19 To: Tim Baker Cc: 'Michael Kuszynski'; 'Matt Kane's Brain'; '313 Mailing List' Subject: Re: (313) derrick may rarities I had an idea he hated that. ;) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 30/01/2008, at 4:12 AM, Tim Baker wrote: There is a Strings of life remix by The 10th Planet (Ashley Beedle) which is a reinterpretation based on a live performance of Rhythim is Rhythim with Derrick May featuring Carl Craig recorded 09.14.89 at the Town Country Club London. It was released on Network Records 1995 (NWKT 88) I still drop this track regularly in my sets because I still haven't heard anybody else play it. tb -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:21 AM To: Matt Kane's Brain; 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) derrick may rarities he did some stuff with system seven and i believe on fax too. On 1/28/08, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine citizens, I am doing the Test Pattern thing I did with Ken Ishii in November, where I pick an artist to play for an hour. Instead of picking an artist whose records comprise significant sections of my collection, I decided to pick one that's not so easy for me, but maybe easy for you guys: Derrick May! Is there anything he's done that's really off the beaten path that's worth the effort to seek out? Anything recent beyond the Tekkon Kinkreet soundtrack? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) derrick may rarities
I had an idea he hated that. ;) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 30/01/2008, at 4:12 AM, Tim Baker wrote: There is a Strings of life remix by The 10th Planet (Ashley Beedle) which is a reinterpretation based on a live performance of Rhythim is Rhythim with Derrick May featuring Carl Craig recorded 09.14.89 at the Town Country Club London. It was released on Network Records 1995 (NWKT 88) I still drop this track regularly in my sets because I still haven't heard anybody else play it. tb -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:21 AM To: Matt Kane's Brain; 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) derrick may rarities he did some stuff with system seven and i believe on fax too. On 1/28/08, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine citizens, I am doing the Test Pattern thing I did with Ken Ishii in November, where I pick an artist to play for an hour. Instead of picking an artist whose records comprise significant sections of my collection, I decided to pick one that's not so easy for me, but maybe easy for you guys: Derrick May! Is there anything he's done that's really off the beaten path that's worth the effort to seek out? Anything recent beyond the Tekkon Kinkreet soundtrack? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) derrick may rarities
DJ Rap sampled SOL too and I know he wasn't cool on that. You could play that track that samples SOL that Herbie Hancock did too. I actually like that myself. Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 30/01/2008, at 4:17 AM, jwan allen wrote: Ditto, it never leaves the bag, the sleeve has seen better days, but I'm not a stickler over things like that. I know most (myself included) are not to keen on the various interpretations of this classic, but Mr. Beedle got it right on this one. jw On Jan 29, 2008 12:12 PM, Tim Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a Strings of life remix by The 10th Planet (Ashley Beedle) which is a reinterpretation based on a live performance of Rhythim is Rhythim with Derrick May featuring Carl Craig recorded 09.14.89 at the Town Country Club London. It was released on Network Records 1995 (NWKT 88) I still drop this track regularly in my sets because I still haven't heard anybody else play it. tb -Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:21 AM To: Matt Kane's Brain; 313 Mailing List Subject: Re: (313) derrick may rarities he did some stuff with system seven and i believe on fax too. On 1/28/08, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fine citizens, I am doing the Test Pattern thing I did with Ken Ishii in November, where I pick an artist to play for an hour. Instead of picking an artist whose records comprise significant sections of my collection, I decided to pick one that's not so easy for me, but maybe easy for you guys: Derrick May! Is there anything he's done that's really off the beaten path that's worth the effort to seek out? Anything recent beyond the Tekkon Kinkreet soundtrack? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
Re: (313) Lee Burridge *TONIGHT*
I heard his recent Balance CD and it bored me silly. 3 discs of progressive minimal - first was OK, but 3? What's the point? On 23/11/2007, at 2:11 AM, ben thompson wrote: i have a mix by him, that he did for me in 1989. he is from my town and was the guy i looked up to as a young aspiring DJ i will digitise if i can find it.i will put up link, if anyone is interested. B 31 On 21 Nov 2007, at 21:11, Anton Banks ((www.antonbanks.com)) wrote: I've got a set by him that I'll be playing on my show tonight- 9:30 to 11:00pm eastern US time. Audio is at www.wesufm.org. -anton the vault www.antonbanks.com
Re: (313) UR in The Wire magazine this month
Underground and invisible are not the same? The Wire isn't exactly Hello/People. ;) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 16/10/2007, at 7:52 PM, Nik Stoltzman wrote: FYI... There is a feature on UR in the latest issue of The Wire. I was relatively surprised to see a photo of Mad Mike on the cover... I guess staying underground doesn't quite mean what it used to. Not that I have an issue with it; it is pretty hard to stay anonymous these days. The 'historical' side of the article, covering the development of UR won't come as anything new to most people here. I was more interested to hear Mike's views on what he sees living and working in Detroit. Anyway, well worth picking up a copy if you can. Cheers, N P.S: Completely forgot to mention - I caught the end of a documentary on detroit techno on BBC Radio 4 last weekend. Does anyone know what it was? I was a bit surprised to tune in and hear Rhythim Is Rhythim!
(313) Trickski's At Les
Has anyone heard Trickski's cover of Carl's At Les? He licensed their Sweat for Fabric 25, of course. (The vocals come from NZ's King Kapisi which I didn't know!) Cyclone Wehner Urban/Dance Music Journalist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Justice
Plan B is a bit of fun. Roots Manuva is great live. The new Dizzee is really fresh musically. Kinda Bomb Squad type beats on the single Sirens. I like Akala's track Shakespeare - the one that sampled Tomcraft. Clever concept and works well! There is a French MC who worked in Detroit lately, I forget his name! He's fresh and soulful. On 28/06/2007, at 1:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the general verdict on Roots Manuva ? I've not heard any new material from him for a while but I still love Brand New Second Hand, Run Come Save Me Dub Come Save Me. He's the best UK MC that I know of. I'm looking forward to checking out some of these recommendations tho. Kind regards, Gary Entertainment UK Ltd Auriol Drive | Greenford Park | Greenford | UB6 0DS x: 2946 | t: +44 (0)20 8833 2946 kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org il.com cc: Subject: Re: (313) Justice 27/06/07 15:36 On the british tip, any MC that tries to sound American is as weak as almost all Americans who try to make Drum and Bass. People I have respect for -- like the Streets, and Goldie Lookin Chains -- aren't even trying to make real hip hop: they're doing something uniquely British. They don't hit me in the heart like the best American hip hop, but they sound like themselves, not like they spent their youths in a pub listening to Biggie on their walkman, fantasizing about walking the mean streets of NYC. I'm very picky about hip hop as well. When it's on, it's Shakespeare-caliber word play backed by beats that make you want to cry. When it's not, well, it's like 99% of all musical culture -- crap. On 6/26/07, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used to produce MC Solaar. i never really liked solaar either. to be honest, aside from a couple of UK emcees, i find most non-american hiphop to just be missing something.
Re: (313) Jeff Mills Runway Fashion Show
A techno perfume would be cool. Something like Thierry Mugler's Alien, that's a techno sent kinda. The packaging is unreal. On 28/06/2007, at 5:31 AM, John Sokolowski wrote: Just got this in my inbox. I signed up for the Gamma Player newsletter when I was in the shop a few months back ___ GOOD FOR PARTY PRESENTS: LET THERE BE LIGHT EARTH. AIR. FIRE. WATER. A demonstration of design, substance, and revealing illumination. A runway and live mannequin show exhibiting styles of the four elements featuring Gamma Player's collection of exclusive international labels from South America, Europe, and East Asia. Curated by CHRISTINA WILSON of Good for Party. Music provided by JEFF MILLS for duration of the show. Couture style provided by GAMMAPLAYER. THURSDAY JUNE 28TH 8PM - 2AM Lumen | 845 W. Fulton Market | Chicago | 312.733. COMPLIMENTARY COCKTAIL RECEPTION 8 TO 9PM. Runway Show Begins at 9pm. Please rsvp for the runway show and complimentary cocktail reception to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] by 6/27/07. More info: www.goodforparty.com _ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play win glamorous prizes. http:// club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3
Re: (313) Justice
Yeah I dig that. I wish I didn't have a migraine guys, I'd deal with this thread more graciously then! ;) I think it's the thought of MIMS that did it... On 27/06/2007, at 8:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also on the dope instrumental hiphop tip, Dr. Who Dat? (aka janiero jarel) Jniero's music is solid - Three Piece Puzzle has been on heavy rotation here for the last two years Lex records is a fine label too MEK
Re: (313) Justice
Too much of anything is bad. My current playlist is Justice, Mills' One Man Spaceship, David Bowie's Young Americans, Station To Station Low, Dimitri From Paris' Cocktail Disco of lost 'sleaze' disco, and my friend Christian Vance's live CD. On 26/06/2007, at 7:51 AM, Carlos de Brito wrote: you're not alone, Cyclone. i enjoy some of the justice, dj mehdi, digitalism, boyz noise, mr. oizo etc.., too. d.a.n.c.e and phantoms pt. 2 are huge. the thing is: too much of that stuff in a row annoys me too. maybe it's a bit too calculable, maybe it's just that i'm getting old. c* Cyclone Wehner schrieb: Yeah I didn't know it was some faux pas to mention them here. Laurent likes and plays them. Is it the image or music you dislike? I am enjoying the Justice album. There is a French sensibility I like. The song DANCE written for Michael Jackson's lost childhood has a pathos. I am surprised people here wouldn't like Mehdi though - that's innovative hip-hop. On 25/06/2007, at 6:28 PM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I'm sure you wouldn't vomit if you concentrated on the tastiness of his name Tom. :) Just think, we have Ed(ward), as in King Edwards (a variety of English Potatoes) and 'Bangers' - slang for sausages. These are what you need for 'bangers and mash' ... that staple of UK haute cuisine ... and only slightly more stodgy than the Justice sound, imo. Ken -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 June 2007 18:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Justice On 6/24/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does everyone think of these guys? I am really enjoying the album. The French really have their own sound and ethos. I love Mehdi on Ed Banger too! I feel they're doing what Technasia might have done - becoming a techno Daft Punk! daft punk is techno. ed banger stuff makes me wanna vomit. tom
Re: (313) Justice
Mehdi is more like Timbaland but open about his influences. He used to produce MC Solaar. His wife is a graff artist, I believe. I think that Midfield General thing could be a favour as Damian Harris helped Justice find a choir for DANCE. On 26/06/2007, at 7:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Tom - reminds me of the worst characteristics of big beat Ed Banger records even have Midfield General (owner of Skint - original home of Fatboy Slim) doing a remix of Krazy Baldhead and it's a straight-up full on big beat rave sound complete with the hip-hop vocal sample Imo - DJ Mehdi is about as hip-hop as the Freestylers (B-Boy Stance anyone?) MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/25/2007 03:23:07 PM: On 6/25/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I didn't know it was some faux pas to mention them here. Laurent likes and plays them. Is it the image or music you dislike? all of the above. i could tell from seeing them in trendy magazines that i wouldnt like them. when i heard their music (before knowing who it was that was playing) i never would have guessed that they would be *that* bad. but they are. horrible horrible nonsense. its like the less intelligent cousin of big beat and mainstream house. it really cant get worse. i think id rather listen to aril brikha's recent album. I am enjoying the Justice album. There is a French sensibility I like. i like alot of french artists: pepe braddock, motorbass, air, daft punk, etc. being french doesnt make the music any better if its bad though I am surprised people here wouldn't like Mehdi though - that's innovative hip-hop. im even pickier about hiphop than i am dance music. there's so little that i like. and almost nothing that i would consider innovative. mehdi is definitely not either, IMO. tom
