Re: (313) OT: Audio cleanup

2007-05-25 Thread Jim Proffit

Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I need to know a good tool to remove (as best
as possible) background noise from some crappy field audio.



Cedar makes some high-end audio tools. They have Cedar Tools for Pro
Tools for example, and then some hardware gear. I think they had some
"intelligent" technology specifically designed to fix field audio
problems.

http://www.cedaraudio.com/

Algorithmics has some too:

http://www.algorithmix.com/en/pro_products.htm

Then there's Cube tec for Pro Tools:

http://www.cube-tec.com/audiocube/index.html

Sony Oxford plugins:

http://www.sonyoxford.co.uk/pub/plugins/home.htm

TC Electronics has some optional denoise plugins:

http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=4007


-Of course if the recording is very bad quality, there's only so much
you can do with it. Final Cut Studio's new Soundtrack Pro 2 had an
"audio stamp" thing, that allows you to copy a sound "quality" from a
recording, and then paste it to some other recording. However, I don't
think that'll fix audio that has very obvious problems..


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Re: (313) Vinyl underground

2007-05-21 Thread Jim Proffit

2007/5/21, Wojtek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Has anyone dealt with these dudes before?  Good? Bad? Highly
recommended?  Stay away?  Any info would be much appreciated.



I have. They're good.


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Re: (313) 7th city

2007-03-26 Thread Jim Proffit

2007/3/26, Wojtek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://www.wordandsound.de/news/archive/news_17



We want Planet Earth...


Re: [313] retroactive page

2001-09-27 Thread jim proffit

Marsel:


oh no.. techno trivia revival
and this is only the beginning

http://www.forcefield.org/retroactive/

will add sound bites later on



I've been waiting for a good info source about Retroactive recs, thanks for 
the tip! Sound bites are a MUST! :)


And yes, trainspotting and all sort of trivia should come back ASAP! Seeing 
the Buzz licence releases made me think again about that label. Someone 
should make an interview with the guy who ran Buzz and licenced all those 
Detroit acts I think it was quite a unique thing.



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[313] we kan never be satisfied

2001-09-23 Thread jim proffit

I was willing to pay well over $500 for this, but still lost it...

I should've used the "strike at the last minute" -method:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1465768387&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1001200421&indexURL=0&rd=1


(if link's broken, copy & paste the the rest)



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Re: [313] http://www.viewlexx.com

2001-09-05 Thread jim proffit

Kent Williams:


http://www.viewlexx.com


Mike Taylor:


thanks for this link! this is such a great mix, I would kill for a
tracklisting.



Few I recognised:

-? (sounds like some Space or John Carpenter synth thing... Escape from New 
York soundtrack?)

-Gino Soccio - Remember (Atlantic)
-?
-Mr.Flagio - Take a chance (Squish) (NOTE: a cover version of the Laswell 
original)

-Amin Peck - Girl on me (Delirium)
-?
-Casco - Cybernatic love (House of music)
-Lime - Angel eyes (Prism)
-Charlie - Spacer woman (Mr.Disc organization)
-? (the new Madonna-sampling retro tune...)
-? (GOD DAMN this is familiar...what was it...?)
-? (some quality house: "can't let you go"...)
-? (another infamous 70's porn disco classic...can't remember)
-? ("space invaders from outer space"...can't remember)
-? (classic can't remember)
-Cellophane - Gimme love (SPQR)
-? (nice)
-Los Angeles T.F. - Magical body (Il discotto)
-? ("destiny..." some new Viewlexx thingy can't remember...)
-Scotch - Penquins' invasion (American disc) (NOTE: vocal version is another 
(later)version of this)

-?
-? (that INFAMOUS classic tune they played to death on Hotmix-5 shows...)


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[313] unbelievable...

2001-08-17 Thread jim proffit

http://www.laserturntable.com

-what can I say? :)


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RE: [313] carl craig presents abstract funk theory

2001-08-13 Thread jim proffit

james boylan:


Forgive my ignorance, but who's George Kranz?


He's a nut german drummer who did the crossover pop classic "Din daa daa" in 
'83.
It's been sampled a million times. If you ever hear a dance record where the 
guy sings "din daa daa" it's from his original tune:)

He did some other singles after that but better to forget them straight.

Din daa daa video still aires sometimes on educated music channels. It's the 
guy with the funny hair banging drums and then "singing" the same notes he 
played. At one point he jumps over his drum kit, all in beautiful 80's video 
quality fashion:)



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Re: [313] transmat first, second, third pressing??

2001-08-12 Thread jim proffit

armin holzgethan:


could someone please outline the differences in the the artwork of the
different pressings, especially of the first two?
i know the last pressing has black labels etc.
and what about fragile? two pressings?


A good resource is Ebay, there's sometimes lots of pictures of different 
Transmat label graphics.


I know the very first pressing of "Nude photo" is a plain silver label w/ 
black lettering & Transmat logo, and the artist name is indeed "RYTHIM IS 
RYTHIM", not "Rhythim" with an H like the later pressings...


I have a feel that the later releases usually had Alan Oldham's graphics, 
like Strings of life has neat drawn pic.
I've also seen different colours in the same graphics, like Beyond the dance 
printed in brown (!!!) colour and super cool red-to-green fading graphics...


K-Alexi's "All for Lee-sah" first pressing had cool Oldham drawing of a lady 
(printed on white label), and the second pressing had a somewhat decadent 
red graphics I don't know what to think of.


The black label ones, "Classics" are the latest yes...


These experts on this board should make a site where all the Transmat 
graphics were presented. It's strange actually, that no one (?) hasn't done 
that already, a dedicated Detroit classics web page...?



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Re: [313] Save the vinyl info

2001-08-09 Thread jim proffit

Michael Kim:

but there are so many horrible records coming out and so few pressings >of 
good ones in comparison. why not just make MORE copies of good >records?  i 
don't think you'll have problems selling reissues of >classics, look how 
fast Cybotron - Clear went.


Yeah, but that just shows you how good crossover record Clear is, everybody 
buys it: RAP/Hip Hop folks buy it, Miami Bass & breaks people buy it, techno 
listeners buy it, hell, even your Polka loving aunt buys it!
But I don't think Hip Hop people would buy reissues from Retroactive 
back-catalogue, or other Detroit classics for that matter. There really is 
no room for a large amount of old records to be re-released, I think by now 
there's enough Transmat classics leftovers in the world that we don't need 
to release them in another 15 years.


Some records are purposelly not been re-released. Retroactive is a classic 
example I think. I don't think there isn't any problems they couldn't solve 
to get them re-released, but Carl knows his cult-status is largely built on 
those releases, and there's the tickling sensation about having people pay 
crazy money for your releases.
Besides there really isn't that much people who'd buy them (Retroactives) 
all the time, maybe 1000-2000 copies would sell quickly, but then they 
wouldn't be rare anymore and people would move on to other things.


Another thing is the distributors. They can say to you "this much is going 
to sell, we won't buy more that this" no matter how good a record is.


i've seen horrible records sit in shelves for years. a pressing plant >may 
be pressing it, but if nobody buys it, somebody's got to pay for >that.


We all have seen the lonely crap records, and it's a sad, sad sight:)
The label will eventually pay for it when the distributor won't buy their 
stuff anymore and they might end up with 1000 copies of crap release in 
their garage.


also, look at how many Swedish imitation records come out.  they sound the 
same, no new ideas, more than half of the Swedish sounding >records are 
garbage.  i mean, do these records really need to be >released constantly?


They found an idea (copying Mills) and made a formula out of it.
Of course there's no need for all those releases, but that's what brings the 
food on the table, it's no secret at all.


It's so sad the state of TECHNO, the early 90's innovative years seem light 
years away. I mean who of the old guys listens to "techno" anymore? No one, 
they've all gone house or to more sophisticated genres.


i really wish record pressing plants would concentrate on making more 
copies of good records, and reissuing good older records and >classics that 
they KNOW will sell, rather than pressing the latest >record that nobody 
will remember or care about two weeks after its >release.


In an ideal world that might work but at the end it's discrimination and 
fascism, restricting what people can release and what not.
But the pressing plants live by the capitalist golden rule; to make more 
money, and they don't care if all they pressed was bird singing nature 
records as long as the customers pay.



yeah, but how many other people here are sick of listening to 50 bad 
records to find 1 good one?


That's why I called it the "jungle", because you have to wander thru the 
bushes and all the bad sh*t before you find a new rare species or the golden 
treasure:)



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Re: [313] K Alexi - All 4 Lee Sah

2001-08-09 Thread jim proffit

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Am I right in thinking ALL pressings of K Alexi's All 4 Lee Sah are
> screwed up (Transmat original and classic)??



> The surface noise half way thorugh is terrible. It's worse than some
> of the Trax pressings.


Sakke:


I only have the repress, and it sounds like it was mastered from really
cracky and scratchy vinyl.



I have the 2nd pressing (red graphics) and I think there was some noise on 
it too... gotta check to make sure.


But yeah, the noise in that recording is classic, check DJ Hell's X-mix for 
example! I also remember one Baby Ford mix he did in '94, and the record he 
used had the exact same noise, so my thought is that Transmat must have used 
the original lacquer or metal stampers to make the later pressings, which is 
a BAD mistake! Never do that.


If someone with the original 1st white drawn label pressing could inform us 
if the noise is on that too, so then we'd know if it's the mastering...


Also: I have the R-tyme 12" as Transmat classic pressing and there's some 
crazy noise on that too, and some other Transmat classic had a "ghost" 
effect on it (when a reel-to-reel tape is not played for a long time the 
magnetic particles attach to tape next to them, sort of copy themselves on 
tape, so you'll hear the coming music in advance, very silently though.).


Derrick should transfer all his classic analog material to digital media 
immediately.



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Re: [313] Save the vinyl info

2001-08-08 Thread jim proffit

fabrice Lig:

I talked several times to some people from Vinyl pressing factories and 
eachone told me that they are really really busy and always too much 
records to press.


Michael Kim:


how about cutting down the number of bad releases instead?  ;)



I think cutting down the number of releases would eventually be catastrophic 
for this music scene.


Factories would have to close down their businesses when there wouldn't be 
enough work (records to make) and thus cause the pressing prices go higher 
and higher, making it useless to release this music on vinyl when at the end 
a record could cost you twice as much as it does now.


Only the strongest pressing plants would survive, and eventually there'd be 
only 2 or 3 pressing plants IN THE WHOLE WORLD.

Not much choice there.

I think this effect is already showing the way average record price has been 
steadily rising in the last 15 years, and the amount of new dance releases 
per month should now be higher that ever?



It's a sort of Amazon jungle this "dance" music business; you have to have 
as many species as possible in order to keep the ecological balance.



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[313] suggest GOOD looking sites

2001-08-03 Thread jim proffit

Little off-topic, but then again not so:

I'm starting to make a website dedicated to old Chicago house & old WBMX 
classics (and later on Detroit classics), and have few ideas in my head 
about the graphical outlook and the functions of the site.


Now, I've checked out some cool sites for inspiration, but now I need more 
reference and ideas from top-level sites to begin with.


Don't get me wrong: I'm not copying the lay-outs of these sites, I just need 
some pages that I can point out to my web-designer friend and say: 
"something like that"


I'm not particularly looking for FLASH-heavy sites, or other similar sites 
that in order to work properly need about a half a dozen plug-ins. No, just 
basic sites with extremely good looks and lay-out, with additional small 
gimmicks to make it interesting.



So, if you know www-pages that you think fit the description, I'd be glad to 
check them out.



Mail me PRIVATELY about the possible addresses, thanks.

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[313] suggest GOOD looking sites

2001-08-03 Thread jim proffit

Little off-topic, but then again not so:

I'm starting to make a website dedicated to old Chicago house & old WBMX 
classics (and later on Detroit classics), and have few ideas in my head 
about the graphical outlook and the functions of the site.


Now, I've checked out some cool sites for inspiration, but now I need more 
reference and ideas from top-level sites to begin with.


Don't get me wrong: I'm not copying the lay-outs of these sites, I just need 
some pages that I can point out to my web-designer friend and say: 
"something like that"


I'm not particularly looking for FLASH-heavy sites, or other similar sites 
that in order to work properly need about a half a dozen plug-ins. No, just 
basic sites with extremely good looks and lay-out, with additional small 
gimmicks to make it interesting.



So, if you know www-pages that you think fit the description, I'd be glad to 
check them out.



Mail me PRIVATELY about the possible addresses, thanks.

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Re: [313] track id

2001-07-31 Thread jim proffit

Rob Muller:


Can anyone id the track starting at the 1:41:50 mark in the groovetech
swayzak set found here:
http://www.groovetech.com/broadcastevent/7289

features female vocals along the lines of "big seduction in a >magazine, 
leisure in a limousine, ., nicotine from the silver >screen".



I DON'T know, but it sounds like some new "retro"wave song, you know, Lady 
Tron -kind of stuff... after that track comes an edit of old Ronnie Griffith 
song "Spies" though...



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Re: [313] Acme Vinyl pressing

2001-07-27 Thread jim proffit

Michel:


Hi, does anyone have any comments about the quality of Acme vinyl's
pressings? (www.acmevinyl.com)

-how's the thickness?
-are the labels printed well?
-are they ever warped?

I'm only concerned about the pressing...


As I understand the old Intellinet-distributed labels were mostly pressed at 
Acme, so there's a good reference.


I'd say it's typical american quality;)

The only thing EVERYBODY hates about those acme-pressed recs, is the plastic 
innersleeve. You know, that piece of SH*T that never goes smootly in the 
jacket and after a few listenings it's just garbage.



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Re: [313] any leads on 12" covers?

2001-07-24 Thread jim proffit

Kent williams:


I really want to print covers for my next record release, but
the places I've found have been really expensive, and don't really
do what I want which is to do matte printing on recycled paperboard.

Anyone have any leads? (i.e. Not Ross Ellis or Dorado Press)



Basically you have to manufacture a lot of copies (2000 and upwards)of a 12" 
single release before it makes any sense financially to have custom made 
jackets, at least that's what I've noticed when I've fantasized about my own 
label.


In LPs it's more easy to hide the costs because you can sell it for more to 
the distributor.


I'd say ask all possible pressing plants (both in US and Europe)if they are 
willing to manufacture jackets (covers) only, without having to press the 
records there as well (unless if that's what you want), and what the cost 
would be.

Though I doubt the price range don't chance that much.

Gramofonove Zavody/GZ digital media in Czech Republic comes to mind, it's 
probably the cheapest you can find:


http://www.gzcd.com/


If you REALLY believe in yourself and the talent you got, another option is 
to manufacture a huge amount of covers at once, say like 5000 copies, for 
your future releases. If you press 500 copies per one release, that way you 
would have covers for 10 releases.
This is risky. Unless you're Moby or Josh Wink, if the tracks ain't slammin 
and the label ain't happening, you could end up with a roomful of useless 
covers:)



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Re: [313] House ID's

2001-07-18 Thread jim proffit

stuffed bird:


Another track I've been hunting down is a house track...



...it's a vocal track with a chorus speaking of 'time and time again'


Ummm, is that DJ Pierre's "Time and time again"? on Jive?
He had a rec with similar name, if that's not the exat title, but it's on 
Jive... I gotta check, I think I should have that 12" somewhere...



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Re: [313] colored vinyl

2001-07-16 Thread jim proffit

ryan burns:

today one of my friends told me that colored vinyl is more prone to wear 
and scratches.  compared to black vinyl.  im a little skeptical >of this. 
does anyone know the truth to this matter?



When listening to those coloured pressings on DJAX-UP-BEATS one could come 
up with the conclusion that colour vinyl is weaker in quality, yes.


But I think it might have more to do with the chemical mixture of the vinyl 
used, and the quality of the actual pressing records are made.


Vinyl, as I understand, is colourless as it is, the black colour is just 
added so that people could see the tracks they're playing.
Maybe that black colour has qualities that the other colours lack, and the 
result is cleaner sound...?


But I've heard both perfect colour vinyls and then those Djax-like pressings 
(strangely the transparent, "normal" vinyl on Djax sounds crappy aswell, 
so...?).


The same goes for picture discs: some play without noise and others are 
painful to listen... and pic discs should be more difficult to make, so 
there the errors are somehow understandable.




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[313] Re: Track ID (please)

2001-07-12 Thread jim proffit

Scott Vallance:


http://www.hotmix.nl/mixnet/

And while ppl r there, can someone please ID the first track that tony
humphries plays in that '86 mix.


That very first track (from which the mix starts) I don't know, but it soon 
transforms into MOONFOU's "Shut up" ("...I said SHUT UP!").

I'm not sure if that's the instrumental playing in the mix...


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Re: [313] Euro Synthpop

2001-07-11 Thread jim proffit

Tosh Cooey:


Just listening to the Total Destruction CD on Forte by Ural 13
Dictators, euro synthpop at its damn finest, however you want to
interpret that.

Damn fine



Yea, they're on a mission:)

Actually, I sold some HI-NRG recs to one of the guys in that group, and I 
can tell you those boys LOVE the old euro-cheese classics:)




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RE: [313] fanboy track ID

2001-07-10 Thread jim proffit

Jongsma, K.J:

My favorite HMC release is still Phreakin, i think it was one of the >first 
Dirty House records. It is a extremly funky Acid track, worth >checking out 
if you never heard (which you proberly have because it >was a big hit years 
ago..)


I was never that buzzed about it because it totally "borrows" that bass line 
from Brandon Cook's (feat. Roxanne Shante) "Sharp as a knife". from '88.


Would love to get the original 12" of "Sharp..." though. There should be the 
instrumental on the B-side (?), without the thin baby-like vocals of 
Roxanne:)




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[313] old techno article

2001-07-03 Thread jim proffit
I was actually searching for images of DJ BABY ANNE (don't ask:) when this 
one came up:


http://detnews.com/1998/entertainment/0925/techno/techno.htm

-it's an old article from the Detroit news few years back for those who 
missed it.



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[313] this sample

2001-07-03 Thread jim proffit

juliette morgan wrote months ago:

To all those who were questioning the origin of the sample included in 
BFC-"Galaxy", and Mills' "In the bush"; It is in fact Liaisons Dangereuses, 
however NOT "Los Ninos...".



The sample is from "Peut Etre Pais".



What's the original track that Mills' "Black is the number" samples?
(the distinct bassline)
I've heard the original on many WBMX-mixes, and there's couple new releases 
that use the sample also. It's some 80's industrial/synth group for sure...



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[313] DJ obsessions

2001-05-30 Thread jim proffit

Jayson:

so what's with john's obsession with playing headhunter from front242?


george.jones:

Probably something similar to Derrick May's obsession with "French >Kiss" 
by Lil' Louis.


Oh, he has an obsession for that? He should make a RMX of it, that would be 
something:) What else he plays to death?


I understand "I feel love" was one of the classics the Detroit boyzz spinned 
quite a lot...
I don't know that many Detroit OLD SCHOOL CLASSICS (and I mean classics) 
that the DJs pumped. What older Disco/R'n'B/Soul/Italo they played in the 
80's???


The Chicago guys' all time classics I know so very well:

Pam Todd-Let's make some love
Diana Ross-Love hangover
Liasons dangereuses-Los ninos del parque
Bumblebee unlimited-Lady bug/Love bug/Everybody dance...etc...
Trussel-Love injection
Billy Frazier-Billy who?
Don Armando's Rhumba band-Deputy of love
Salsoul orchestra-You're just the right size/Chicago bus stop...etc...

-plus too many Philly records, early italos, unknows and others to list... 
But what about Detroit? What were THE tracks Mills for example played 
everytime?



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Re: [313] Maestro

2001-05-22 Thread jim proffit

evan wrote:

I came across Maestro - a documentary about the history of the >underground 
music scene which is currently in production


I did notice, however, a lack of presence of the detroit pioneers, and >was 
wondering if anyone had any thoughts or interesting info on the >project or 
the omission.


I've been waiting for it to finally finish and hope to get to see it 
somewhere! I'm just wondering if it ever reaches any other than small 
independent film festivals and the premiere night in the U.S. (where Morales 
shows up with his monsterbuilt steroid bodyguards:)

Hopefully the film aires on TV sometimes somewhere...

There's been a debate about the lack of Chicago jocks (Hardy etc.) in the 
film, only one included is Frankie. It basically concentrates on the N.Y. 
scene only.


But it does have one unique element to it though: the last interview with 
Francis Grasso, the founder of modern beat-mixing. I must say I'm waiting to 
see that particular piece in the film more than anything. Hope there's some 
documentary footage from that era also!


Detroit -let's face it: I don't think Detroit will ever get the recognition 
(or film) they deserve. People just don't understand it, basically to most 
dance enthusiasts Detroit guys were just a bunch of loonies who did wacky 
beats and experimented with modern pop music... Don't kill me for saying 
this! It's not my opinion but I believe that's the common folks opinion if 
they had any.



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Re: [313] another Carl Craig article

2001-05-16 Thread jim proffit

joshtwentythree made me laugh so bad!!
This is the funniest post for a while now:):):)

It just shows how seriously some of us are taking all this DEMF madness;)


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> I think that action is necessary.  Nothing too
> militant, or extreeme, but
> i think that we need to show pop culture media, that
> we want Carl Craig to
> stay.



ok here's what we do...well...it would be better if we
had some extra time to set this up, but time is of the
essence, first...we're gonna need a monkey...I know,
monkey are cliche...but this is neccesary...ok, so we
train the monkey over the next two weeks to be able to
pretend to be Carol Marvin...then when the time of the
demf nears we get a crack force of geeky techno
guys...i know...we're stretching a little bit
here...but -some- of us have to spend some time
outside, play basketbal or something, I'll need a show
of hands of people who have seen the sun and broken a
sweat because of moving in the last 6 months, we'll
use those guys to make the team...anyway. so we kidnap
Carol Marvin with our awesome team of geeky techno
guys and replace her with the monkey, I'm sure since
we're so close to the DEMF no one will notice,
hopefully the looking for lice in peoples hair will be
attributed to stress...so the carol monkey will give
said speeches which will consist of "ook ook" and "eek
eek" and hopefully some poop throwing...that would be
a plus, this will hopefully do some damage to her
reputationso we take Carol back to our secret
base...uh, any volunteers for a secret base?...and
make her watch Brady Bunch reruns and The Sound of
Music over and over again with the sound up loud while
playing Britney Spears "oops...I did it again" at the
same time, this coupled with Ubersamalian(did I get
that right) smith lip synching the whole time in
nothing but a g-string and some of those little nipple
tassles...these actions should in no time at all get
her to concede to our demands...what do you guys
think? I've put a lot of time into this idea...

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[313] new Retroactive-it makes you younger...

2001-05-16 Thread jim proffit

Check it out:

http://auctionaddict.com/cgi-bin/single.cgi
ID=LNF1EE0R&cobrand=¤cy=


OK, lame joke:)
It's so desperate these days, y'know?


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Re: FW: [313] fav 80s pop remixes

2001-05-15 Thread jim proffit

phuture jacks:

the ultimate pop remix would be the "detroit wesmopolitan remix"of Was >Not 
Was Out Come The Freaks (Ken Collier&Duane Bradely)

probably the longest too:)


Yeah, they were the forces behind that "When love surges" track by... what 
was he's name? Julian? Jules? That's some nice early 808/303 freestylish 
tune... Sort of poor man's Alexander Robotnick;)



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Re: [313] DJAX/Paul Johnson

2001-05-09 Thread jim proffit

FC3 Richards:

I was on E-Bay a few days ago and saw a release by Paul Johnson on >DJAX 
for sale.  is this a hoax???  has anyone heard this???  is it any >good???  
when did it come out...i am looking for some vital info on >it.  my  
intrest is way sparked...


Yes, it's a real record, not a scam:)
He actually did a few records for Djax:

Djax-Up-163 Paul Johnson - Foreign Music
Djax-Up-181 P. Johnson & Armando - 3rd Dimension
Djax-Up-200 Paul Johnson - Psycho Kong (2x12")

-Haven't got the first one, Foreign music, but the double he did with 
Armando and Psycho Kong kick ass. Psycho Kong ('94) is of course based on 
the arcade game, using those Blip Blop-sounds that we all loved.


Knowing Paul's musical history I bet it's safe to say Foreign music is good. 
And I'm sure it should be VERY good considering the release year ('93), 
around the time when all the Chicago guys did excellent stuff. IMO better 
than nowadays...


You should also seek Glenn Underground's recs on Djax, if you already 
haven't got them. They're SO F**KING GOOD it hurts!!


Djax-Up-162 Glenn Underground - Future Shock
Djax-Up-194 Glenn Underground - The Unborn (green 12")

-these are still the same style he started with, Chicago deepness in the 
ORIGINAL style, similar to his E.P. on Chicago underground for example.
The Unborn has the legendary track "101 Dolmations" that IMO is one of the 
undisputed Chicago track classics. SO funky and genius track that I can't 
believe it!!!


I've contributed some Djax releases to this site, check it out:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Djax-Up-Beats


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Re: [313] Chicago track ID

2001-05-08 Thread jim proffit

stuffed bird:

It's a classic chicago track, typical late eighties drum trax, with a >vox 
throughout and a chorus:



'so let it be real, so let it be house'


Mike Dunn-Let it be houze (Westbrook)


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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-06 Thread jim proffit

John Osselaer:

..I've heard rumours that in the end Ron was selling highly exclusive and 
superb records for a few bucks just so he could get his

next fix. Truly one of the sadder stories in the history of this music. :-(


Same goes for Larry Levan. He sold all kinds of classics on the street for 
dimes.
I've got few records myself that I bought from a guy in Chicago, and they 
have something like "the Box" -written on the labels. Old Hardy records? I 
don't know but it's strange to think they could be...



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Re: [313] Marshall Jefferson

2001-05-05 Thread jim proffit

John wrote:

...Who has heard of a club called The Bismarck? Apparently Lil' Louis 
>played there a lot and Derrick was influenced by him (or so I have >been 
told)...


Oh yeah, it was the Bismark Pavilion hotel I think which had a club in it, 
and Louis was the resident DJ in there... I remember reading it had a huge 
following at one point.


There's a live mix from the club at the deephousepage.com, at page 3, mix 
nr.350.



It think it is hard to deny that Detroit techno learnt a lesson or two 
>from the brotha's in the Windy City.


Remember Derrick once mentioned that he wanted to move to Chicago just so 
that he could listen to WBMX/Hot mix 5 all the time!!!:):):)
(To which Juan A. apparently commented that they played "fag music" in 
there..humph!!! oh boy:/)



Chicago was also a very important promoting-channel (in the U.S.) that 
helped to broke a lot of the Detroit music that was released, all the May 
classics for example.



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Re: [313] let no man put asunder

2001-05-03 Thread jim proffit

graham [tan] wilson wrote:

i have a derrick may mix from about 1990 in holland. he is playing a 
>chopped up remix of shep pettiebone's version of let no man put 
>asunder... its got lots of sirens in it.. does anyone know who's remix 
>this is???


Ummm, one classic edit/RMX that could be mistaken for "Let no man..." is 
Revoked's "Pieces" on Hot mix 5. It IS based on that track so much that for 
a while I thought it was some original RMX on Salsoul.
"Come on and gimme some more, come on and gimme some more, come on and gimme 
some more, let no MAN put asunder BABE!, BABE!, BABE!, BABE!!!" :) -it 
sticks to your mind like glue!!!



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Lil' OFF-TOPIC

2001-04-25 Thread jim proffit
I have a question, which in a sort of way is related to this list, so don't 
go jumpin on my back for this:



I'm thinkin' of putting old mixes (WBMX) to web, and I'll have to transfer 
them from OLDER tapes. I was thinkin' of using either Sound Forge XP or Cool 
edit 2000 (can't afford PRO) to do the transfer.


I'll need to adjust and fix the sound a little bit; add a crisp high-end, 
put fade-ins & outs, and at the end normalize the whole BIG sample (think of 
45mins of audio).


I'm going to put both MP3 and Real Audio formats available for downloading. 
I think Cool edit has MP3 & RA recording available in the program itself, 
but in Sound Forge it's available as an option?


Also, Sound Forge has the Noise reduction-plug-in available for $300 or so, 
Cool edit has same kind of "Audio clean-up" available for $50...

Is it stupid to ask which one is better?

If you have experiences with these progs, ANY ADVICE appreciated and please 
mail me privately!!!



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Re: [313] sample at mu2

2001-04-21 Thread jim proffit

I know that this is a little delayed...Someone told me (and I think the
consensus here was) that the sample Richie played throughout the night >(I 
called you...but you weren't there...) was from a Green Velvet >track 
called "Answering Machine".


No, it's propably Lil' Louis' "I called U".


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Re: [313] first mixer is fernando grasso

2001-04-20 Thread jim proffit

Jochem Peteri:

the person who is generally credited for being the one who invented dj->ing 
is kool herc


I guess Thomas Edison could be credited as being the "first DJ". Basically 
anyone who's played tracks after tracks with 2 turntables in the '20s, '30s 
or '40s can be that "first" person, but I believe Grasso was the "first" to 
actually beat-mix 2 records, as

Jay Cee wrote:

"...Francis Grasso, a pioneering club disc jockey credited with first mixing 
records together in the late 1960's by matching their rhythms.."


-I don't know if any of the Rock'n'Roll or Blues DJs tried to match tempos 
in the 50's???


Kool Herc took the toasting tradition (from Jamaica) to U.S., and thus 
influenced the "rapping" culture familiar with the black population in the 
States.




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All your BASS are belong to us...

2001-04-09 Thread jim proffit
For those that have a history with AMIGA computers and remember the demo 
scene, you can refresh your sweet memories with this:


http://www.scene.org/~jeffry/AYB.swf

-BEUTIFUL music in that FINE classic tracker-style:)


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Re: [313] Dancemania

2001-04-09 Thread jim proffit

jose bello:

...Dancemania is the house of Barney,real underground house of Chicago 
>southside:

http://members.tripod.com/~infamouss/house.html


(almost) complete discography can be found at: http://ad.techno.org/

-and the one with the available tracklistings is at: 
http://www.discogs.com/label/Dance_mania


-Me and this other guy have been adding all the basic releases but there's 
few (actually a whole lot) that are missing. So many of the releases came as 
white labels so I have no idea about the track names... If someone out there 
can fill the blanks, please do!!!



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Re: [313] Vincent Floyd

2001-04-04 Thread jim proffit

dk wrote:

Since you guys are taking about Chicago for a sec I thought I'd throw >this 
one out.  Anyone know of any other Vincent Floyd releases besides >Cactus 
Juice and Chan "Your Eyes"?  Or even better, anyone know what >ever 
happened to Vincent?


Talk about a man ahead of his time...


Oh yes...He "came back" in the mid-90's releasing one EP on Relief and he 
did one f**ked up 12" on X-rated records, "Stooge swing". It was a 3 track 
EP, kinda like mescaline-fuelled trax... I can't remember what else he did 
around '94-95, must've been something...


Another great old DM artist that I would like to hear today is Victor Romeo.

And oh yes: "Your eyes" kix azz. Rumour has it that there is a naughty 
bootleggy cover version of it on one of Sähkö's less illegal records;)



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Re: [313] German techno that fits 313?

2001-04-04 Thread jim proffit

Arne.Weinberg:

Coming from Germany i asked myself how the list (you) think about the 
>german techno scene and its producers.


In my opinion the german techno thing is really bring, because 
>they all hear and produce and spin only the hard banging soulless crap 
>called "Schranz"


For certain people (like me) the "german sound" was really important in the 
early 90's to mid 90's.


What records/labels you mean by "Schranz"?
I would think there are people that really HATE the Cologne minimalism 
sound. Cologne's acid sound is a whole different story...


For me the germans kept the original attitude of the early Chicago (and 
later Detroit with Tresor etc.) sound and production values better than, 
say, the folks in England.


And you can't really deny that when you're talking about electronic music in 
general, Germany is in a class of it's own.



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Re: [313] Where it all began -BAD Picasso!

2001-04-03 Thread jim proffit

Tosh:


Picasso was heavily influenced by African masks, and cubism is heavily
based on the ideas he saw in them.  So is Picasso as evil and empty as
Moby?


Actually, Picasso WAS evil:) Didn't he push his little sister from a cliff 
down to rocks when he was a little kid?


Oh, this is so off-topic...


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My mine...

2001-03-31 Thread jim proffit
Again, from the classic vaults of Ebay, this one really puts your faith to 
test:


Carl Craig's old Retroactive 12"(DANG-1) selling for well over $500!!!

How is this possible??? Something like a month ago a copy of this same 
record was sold for $240 or something...on the same Ebay...???


The price DOUBLED in this short time period!?!?! I guess people are becoming 
more and more desperate... but for 500 f--kin dollars!!!

It's F*CKIN INSANE!

(But if someone has this rec for sale, I could pay, say like $200 for it :))

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1419566925


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Re: [313] "What Kind Of House Party Is This?"

2001-03-14 Thread jim proffit

There is an interview section at http://deephousepage.com

They have a page devoted to "What Kind Of House Party Is This?" by >Farley 
Jackmaster Funk and Frankie Knuckles. Does anyone have any more >info on 
this book? Looks like great reading.


The Chicago artist interviews are classic, but I didn't even read the 
British chapter! Again, I don't know what the fiction/fact-ratio is in those 
interviews, especially with the early pioneers, but it's fun to read Vince 
Lawrence's stories about how he and Jesse Saunders were spending the 
proffits of those early house records on synths and prostitutes:) Just like 
I imagined it to be.
Very interesting are the stories about the clubs all the name DJs played, 
the whole competetive attitude between them seems like light years away 
compared to this day!!! It explains so much about the history and evolution 
of this music.


I think the author Jonathan Fleming is a photographer specializing in the 
club scene, and that way he got into writing this book...?


Good reading indeed.


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Re: [313] taking off labels/blanks

2001-03-11 Thread jim proffit

Kieran wrote:


How would the vinyl react with the minerals in the water, though?


Jeffrey Paul:

Bear in mind i'm not a chemist, but I doubt it'd do anything for just a few 
hours. If you're really anal though, one might consider >using distilled 
water, as there's chlorine and traces of other >corrosive things in 
tapwater, but i'm doubtful it'd hurt anything.


Normal water doesn't do it, unless you keep the record about a year under 
running water. I tried water, all it does it softens the paper of the label, 
so it wears off, but the glue still remains. So you have records with ugly 
mushy white labels:)
Alcohols and other strong chemicals tend to stink long after even if you've 
washed them, so I wouldn't do it...


Sometimes you find old records and they're just in awful condition, labels 
all **cked-up, DJ's writing all over the labels etc... I'd rather look plain 
records.



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Re: [313] Bernard Badie

2001-03-07 Thread jim proffit

stuffed bird:

I've long since been looking for a track by Bernard Badie on a Chicago 
>label I have never even seen in my life, 'Night Club Chicago'. The >track 
is called 'Can U Feel It'.



Any leads?


It's actually on NIGHT CLUB label that was based in Chicago, that's a 
misspelling in the titles on that DJ Hell X-mix comp. I've been lookin for 
that record also, but haven't seen it on any list. All the other Night club 
releases are regularly seen on every other list but this one seems to be 
much loved, or was a very limited pressing?


The track can be found on either: NCL016: Jackin Bernard-Mood Music 12"
OR on NCL017: Bernard Badie-Time Reveals 12"

Anyone on the list who has a copy?


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Re: [313] Do the flex =STREET BEAT

2001-03-05 Thread jim proffit

Danny Wolfers wrote:


When I was in Helsinki some week ago Tomi (Hi! :) ) played me some
totally raunchy produced disco record.


...The title was "Do the flex" (or it could be just "Flex"). It was  >just 
magnificent produced drums and some funky rhythmically layed down >chords


RC replied:

Yeah I know, its amazing. I've got it - its on Coko records, the flip >has 
Sylvester's classic "I need you" It was on rushhour's lists a >couple of 
weeks ago...



It's STREET BEAT's Do the flex...


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Tell me about Peacefrog

2001-03-01 Thread jim proffit
Peacefrog released some slammin techno back in the days, now it's more or 
less a house label...

I'm not sure who found the label, anyone know?
I'm also wondering about the "Lodger" releases that the label put out: PF001 
Pete The Lodger - Ghetto Of The Mind & Pete Lodger's "303 EP" PF006, did 
this guy put out more records? What labels, aliases and are they any good?


Once again, any information appreciated!!!

Also, if anybody, and I mean ANYBODY has the mentioned Peacefrog Lodger 
releases for sale, I'D BE GLAD TO BUY THEM Also if you happen to have 
X-Crash-"808 terror" Peacefrog PF010, and you want to sell it or can get it, 
LET ME KNOW


I'd like to buy multiple copies of those records:)


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Re: [313] OT: name the chicago electrodiscofunksoul classics

2001-02-27 Thread jim proffit

caltrop wrote:

while listening to an old chicago radio dance mix, I noticed that there are 
a bunch of really good disco/soul tracks with an electronic >edge.


any recommendation that would fit this description?


They played lots of Italo disco with the typical mechanical early 80's 
sound, but that's not really "soul", so I guess you could be referring to 
early 80's soul/R'n'B that had that "electronic edge".
Sorry I can't help much without soundclips, but I bet lot of the small dance 
labels output from the EARLY 80's (pre-84) have the qualities you're looking 
for, analogue synths, 808 drum patterns and such...


There's just so much, tons and tons of good (or outstanding) stuff that the 
WBMX posse/Chicago scene played in the 1980s.



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Re: [313] re: Derrick May questions?

2001-02-14 Thread jim proffit

Mike Taylor:

(about how strong 4/4 kick-drum music is basically white folk's invention 
and the only thing that makes it move. Then:)


...The music was so square, boxy, it barely changed, grooveless and 
>without soul.


...He played a single bar 909 pattern that was like a kick and a clap >for 
10 minutes and people loved it.



That's funny, it sounds like Farley on a WBMX show in the 80's playing 
TRACKS :) And he was black if don't remember wrong ;)



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write it wrong

2001-02-14 Thread jim proffit

Rob W Webb wrote:

"Can You Feel The Bass?" by Phortune is on an old Hot Mix 5 >compilation 
called "Acid LP". perversely, it's listed as "Can You Feel >The Boss?" on 
the sleeve!


Hahhahhahhaaa!!! Aww man those Chicago label misspellings are legendary! I 
remember there's a Trax comp. LP which has like 5 different misspellings 
like: "Armondo", "Cocane" etc... And one White knight LP where it reads 
"WHIGHT knight":):):)


Thank God for small labels top-level QC!!!


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Armando's sample ID

2001-02-14 Thread jim proffit
This one is for those who are familiar with Armando's New world order 4 LP 
on Trax: The track "So in love with you" samples Colonel Abrams' "Trapped" 
and "Saturday love" by Cherrelle, but where is that bass & guitar loop 
sampled from? DJ Tonka used that same line in one of his cheese-disco cuts 
on Force Inc.


Gotta find that sample!


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Re: [313] ken collier tribute ep

2001-02-09 Thread jim proffit
Ani wrote:

>the other version of love's got me high that's on >intangible was also 
>re-pressed about a year ago... 

What I wanna know is whether Kenny Dixon's "Emotional content" is re-pressed? 
That's some classic track. Missed it when it first came out 6 years ago.
"Emotional content, NOT ANGER! B i t c h..."


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Re: [313] "Tribute" ep

2001-02-08 Thread jim proffit
Rough edits of what ROB wrote:

>...Terrence Parker's "Tribute" ep on Intangible... 

>...the first track - i think it's "Love's Got Me High"... 
 
>...a 12" called "2 Brothers and a DAT" on a label called  Jackin' Trax which 
>includes a track called "Take a cab" which seems to be the same as the track 
>Assault plays..

>does anyone know what the deal is here? 


I noticed that too: the track on that EP is similar, if not the same as Love's 
got me high. I suspected that the 2 brothers -record is canadian, had something 
to do with Intangible / Parker. When that track became a sort of mini-anthem 
few years ago, it seemed like there was almost dozen versions of it. Even Fresh 
fruit re-released it with different remixes (with Sterac's slammin techno 
mix!!!).

>which is the original? what's the sample? anyone got a spare of the "2 
>Brothers..."? 

Geesh, I can't remember which one came first, the Intangible or the Jackin trax 
one... It was around 
-95/96. I'll guess the Intangible was first. Don't know the sample, but it 
propably originates from some sleeez-soul/R'n'B-act from the 90's.


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Re: [313] Ring ring ring ha ha hey!

2001-01-30 Thread jim proffit
On Mon, 29 January 2001, "David Hampson" wrote:

>http://hometown.aol.com/leeroyd90/phone.html
> 
>I'm sure some of you with mobile phones will enjoy >these!

Yeah, mobile phone tunes are a big business in Finland, but they're always the 
latest (s)hits from the TOP-20.
I've been thinkin about makin Farley Funk's "Jack my body" as a ringin tune for 
a while now, but I'm too lazy. It would make a perfect cover since the original 
itself is a BLEEP classic!

Other hits could be "No U.F.O.s", "Nightdrive thru Babylon", "Wiggin", "Acid 
tracks" (not sure what this would sound like...), "Big fun", "Original Video 
Clash", "Nude photo" etc...

And a special tune for those moments when you're visiting your relatives in 
some backwoods of the worst redneck/bible-zone: "Duelling banjos" from the 
Deliverance;) I'm sure the locals would appreciate it!


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Re: [313] Sorry, more IDs

2001-01-25 Thread jim proffit
On Thu, 25 January 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This reminds me, there's a track I've been looking >to ID now for at least 5 
> years.

>...into this lovely mellow techy tune that uses the >same tones as those 
>famous notes from Close >Encounters.

If it's techno, it's propably Sweet exorcist-"Test one" (or was it "Clonk"?), 
but there's the classic "dark side of the moon"-sample if I rememeber...

If it's disco, it's propably Gene Page's "Close encounters of the third kind"


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Chicago comps on CD

2001-01-23 Thread jim proffit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

>recent posts about early chicago / detroit made me
>dig out some old chicago stuff...

>...anyone know if there are any good cd comps of
>this stuff? thanx.

Hansi Güçlüer mentioned the 3 "classic" comps from Mastercuts. Another 
extremely good set is from the not-so-classic LOW PRICE MUSIC label: the BEST 
OF HOUSE & BEST OF ACID. Tracks on those are mainly licenced from Sherman's 
labels such as TRAX, Saber, Housetime etc, but there's few other goodies there 
as well. Rare Jack Frost, Hot Hanas Hula and DJ Pierre tracks can be found on 
the ACID comp. Rare "On and on" by Jessie Saunders, "It's a mystery" by Phase 
II and other house gems can be found on the HOUSE comp.
There were 4 CDs in both series, each disc has 10 tracks.
 
I think these releases were made strictly for cashing in; the makers propably 
paid Sherman some money and he handed some tapes and records to them and said: 
"do what you wanna...". Some of the tracks on these CDs are lifted straight 
from vinyl;) But nevertheless all tracks are classic house in fine style.
The good thing was the comps were cheap. I paid about $15.00 for both series 
(that's 8xCD)!!! 


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Re: [313] problemes d'armour

2000-12-19 Thread jim proffit

Lenoir44 wrote:

I see that Robotnick's classic appears in National >Lampoons European 
Vacation.


No Sh*it! I'm a big Chevy Chase fan, yet I can't remember this piece from 
the s/t


Can anyone tell me which scene it provides the >background for?


Yeah I saw that movie again few weeks ago and wondered that same thing also. 
It says so in the end titles, but what I saw there wasn't "Problemes" 
anywhere in the film, or I must have missed it?
But I do remember there was some neat italo-disco in one scene where the 
"family" is partying in city, shopping for extremely 80's looking italian 
"design" clothes:), and I guess in the scene where this kid (the son) is in 
the local disco, there was some futu-disco as well... but it wasn't 
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Distant drums-again

2000-12-14 Thread jim proffit
Months ago I asked about the record from NAD, "Distant drums". Yesterday, by 
pure luck, I found it from the local store, and paid about $6 for it. So I'm 
very pleased. But I'm still wondering who's behind that release. I know it's 
from England, but haven't got a clue about the year or the makers. There 
isn't much info on the label;


NAD
-Distant drums (A-side)
-Sphere (B-side)

-and it was the first on that label: NAD001
There's "Damien" written on the vinyl, but I think it's a joke relating to 
the Armageddon-lyrics of Distant drums;). The B-side is very tasty 
Detroit-influenced techno, with strings and murky DX100 bass on it.

It could be B12 or Black dog?


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Re: [313] Gemini Discog

2000-12-07 Thread jim proffit

Tom Lawton:

(...about Gemini's discography)


He also released on on Planet E, back in , I think '96. Can't remember
the name of it, but it's in the 2nd hand section of my local shop for
some crazy price of £4.00 or something..


That would be the "Moment of insanity EP", which BTW, I'm selling very soon 
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Re: [313] weird pressing tricks...

2000-12-05 Thread jim proffit

"darw_n"

since were on this topic, I thought I would throw out the strangest 
>pressing I own...


I remember listening to a record back in 92 where there was literally
2 different tracks cut into one side like it was a one track! Both track's 
grooves were cut side by side so it looked like a normal track. You never 
knew which one would be playing if you dropped the needle on the record.
To come to think of it: is that even possible when mastering is concerned??? 
Or was I dreaming...?



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Re: [313] mispress-DUM label

2000-12-04 Thread jim proffit

ani:


my favorite mispress is steve hurley "jack your body" with a UR riot label.
kinda cute, huh?


BTW: if you folks ever stumble across records from the rare DUM label out of 
Finland, and they happen to be even rarer first ones in that label's 
catalogue, check out if they're the ones that should be "one-sided": There 
were promo copies where on the other side there's your techno, and on the 
other side there's some finnish POP/ROCK music(!!!). Apparently Kimmo, the 
label's founder, could only afford to press one side, and the place where he 
had them done (Finnvox) pressed the promos on some leftover vinyl LPs ! He 
said he's even got copies where there's church music on the flip! :)



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Re: [313] The future of booty? :)

2000-11-30 Thread jim proffit

Otto Koppius:


http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/11/30/adult/index.html


It's a revolution: EROTIC STYLE of music ($54286.78) ;)


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is this sh** 4 real?

2000-11-27 Thread jim proffit

Check it out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=511543173

-piece of Housemusic history sold???


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Re: [313] this guy really knows his classics.....

2000-11-10 Thread jim proffit

stephen:


If your in the mood for the classics go to this site,
http://www.crosswinds.net/~arcadia2/


Yeah, it's good. Even has a scan of "Pierre's pfantasy club" -Fantasy girl 
-label on S.R.O. records.

But there's even a better sample-site IMO:

http://clan.ch/detour/

-too bad there's no scans of the labels!!!


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Re: [313] I Feel Love Cowley Megamix

2000-11-04 Thread jim proffit

me:


> >...Cowley Megamix ...
> 1. I feel love mega mix 15'45"
> 2. I feel love edit mix 8'50"


amene:

When I saw Hell @ Limelight last weekend he started the >set w/a cover of 
"I Feel Love" by Bronski Beat & Marc >Almond.  Is this something completely

different from the version on the Fuse mix?


I don't know what version Hell spins on that Fuse mix, but the Cowley RMX 
has NUTHIN to do with the forementioned chaps:)



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Re: [313] I Feel Love Cowley Megamix

2000-11-03 Thread jim proffit

D.J.Butler:


At last!



...Cowley Megamix ...this amazing track is part of the
new DJ Hell Fuse mix (see below).
Can anyone confirm though - is this the full version?


There's 2 versions on the original 12":

1. I feel love mega mix 15'45"
2. I feel love edit mix 8'50"

The mega mix is the one with those "insane" synthlead solos at the end, 
backed with some fine percussive synth sounds.
The edit is sort of..."edit" of the former;) -there's no solo in that, but 
it's a funky chicago-like percussive discotrack nevertheless.
The mega mix actually is like 6-7 minutes of the original track with no 
mentionable gimmicks by Mr. Cowley, then he hits the soundbutton and things 
start to happen. I guess Hell starts to play that track from the midway of 
the rec...(?)



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Re: [313] Cerrone

2000-10-31 Thread jim proffit

I wrote:


...an LP, a soundtrack which name I don't remember since it was...


Yes I remember it now: Brigade mondaine, "Vice squad" as it is.

...it has a killer synth bass-track, from where the bassline was >ripped 
directly to EDC's "No pills" on Tink! records.


That track is "Strip-tease". A classic, forgotten synth assault.
The Soundtrack also has "Give me love", classic 70's sleeeze disco track, 
and other fine pieces.


Check out:

http://www.cerrone.net/


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Re: [313] can u feel it

2000-10-31 Thread jim proffit

graham [tan] wilson wrote:


what year was it done???

mid-late 80s???


If you're referring to Mr.Fingers' track, it was done in '84, released in 
'86.



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Re: [313] Cerrone

2000-10-30 Thread jim proffit

Cyclone Wehner:


I've been listening to heaps of Cerrone of late - I think he's the >bomb...
...Anyway, what are Cerrone's definitive albums?


Yes I like his work too. All the stringy stuff and his Kongas project too. I 
have an LP, a soundtrack which name I don't remember since it was something 
french, but it's something like '78/'79 period, and it has a killer synth 
bass-track, from where the bassline was ripped directly to EDC's "No pills" 
on Tink! records. Was Orlando Voorn behind that EDC project? Anyway, all 
he's done is used a different sound but the bassline is the same.


And of course Cerrone's record covers are classics in their own right, with 
nude women and our "hero" in his pyjama!!! Or is that a karate suit?
However, in "Cerrone's paradise" LP cover, there's a naked woman on top of a 
fridge (!?), and on the floor there a bottle with some white powder in it!!! 
Some disco nose candy perhaps? ;)



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Re: [313] Derrick May Remixes?

2000-10-28 Thread jim proffit

Phonopsia:

...I have a remix from four or five years ago that's sort of trancey >of a 
Scandinavian DJ Marcel or something??? Can't find the record. >That's all 
I've seen.


It's Marcello & Derrick May -"Serenity" on 100% pure label. It's a dutch 
label. I think it was re-pressed some time ago?



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Re: [313] X-101-2-3

2000-10-27 Thread jim proffit

Cyclone Wehner:


...Can I get X-102 or X-101 on CD


X-102 is released on CD format. Don't know about the 101 though...
Can someone tell me was "Mimas" on the CD version of X-102, because it's not 
on the double vinyl...?



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Re: [313] A love supreme

2000-10-26 Thread jim proffit

richard cranston:


can anyone that owns "A love supreme" - Alexander Robotnick

provide a review, I think b/w is "DAnce Boy dance"?
could you review that too


Marsel already posted this add:

http://www.robotnick.it/robotnick.mp3/robotnick_home.html

-there's an MP3 of that track there.


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Re: [313] re: Mayday mix of "Jaguar"/430 West UK

2000-10-25 Thread jim proffit

Andrew Duke:


why was 430 West UK set up?


Why is ANY "UK" sublabel set up in the first place ;)
Harthouse UK... Synewave LONDON (?!?!?) TRAX UK...

There must be some marketing personnel giving advice: "if you wanna start 
selling BIG numbers in England, you gotta attach "UK" to your name:)



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Re: [313] ... following TRAX

2000-10-13 Thread jim proffit

The [Quad]:

Who knows something about this CD release on Strictly Hype/UC >Music: "TRAX 
Classics Presents Rewind << Rewind 1984: Chicago"

A mix of mostly TRAX (Knuckles, Jefferson, Jackmaster, etc.) records by
one DJ Rick Garcia (?).




FC3 Richards:

...trax changed their name to Dust Trax sometime in the 90's...i think 
>paul johnson pretty much runs the place now.



Actually Dust trax has nothing to do with the real TRAX label. TRAX is still 
Larry Sherman's playground.
Rick Garcia has done records for different labels. His most famous one is 
propably "Put your hands together" as Ricky "Get Down" Garcia on Dance Mania 
records. Since then he's done stuff for IHR etc...



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Re: [313] marc & the more unknown Detroit gems

2000-10-12 Thread jim proffit

Jim Grindle:

Heath Brunner is another untapped Detroit resource. He has learned how >to 
press plates so someone can carry on if Ron's health wanes.


What's wrong with Ron? Is he able to cut records anymore?


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Re: [313] DEMF 2001/ Palais

2000-10-06 Thread jim proffit

Pieter Lub:


(I'll have a look for those 'old' Palais Schaumburg records :-)


How rare are those? Release year(s)?


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Re: [313] Kraftwerk - Music Non Stop

2000-10-06 Thread jim proffit

Nik Stoltzman:

I am sitting here at work listening to 'Music Non Stop' when it hits me 
that I have a track which samples a small section of the chorus >melody. I 
don't know who it is, and it is driving me crazy... which >track? Anyone?


You mean the "female" vocals, kinda echoing sound? I'm remembering that 
sound (I don't have the record with me), and something similar, if I'm not 
mistaken, was on some Art of noise record... ?



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Re: [313] Bam Bam, was: hard house?

2000-10-05 Thread jim proffit

Joel Fernandez wrote:
>
> sure you can include DJ Irene, DJ Bam Bam, Kevin Irving and Mark V >& 
Poogie


Sakari Karipuro:

do you mean bam bam of "where's your child" -fame? that old chicago >acid 
classic? if so, what's this guy doing nowadays?


No, DJ Bam Bam is an other (white) guy that spins this L.A. -kinda hard 
house. The real Bam Bam, last time I heard of him was somewhere in -95, he 
made some acid and house recs...



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Re: [313] who stole the soul?

2000-10-02 Thread jim proffit

mike d wrote:

Back in my high school days I was a punk rocker.digging all the >raw 
and unheard soundz that these bands were showing us.  After >time...the 
"mainstream" caught a hold of it...and the end was near.  >No more respect 
for Green Day and Rancid.  Nofx was no longer a true >punk band.  Why??? 
simple.  I got older and jaded with the music b/c I
knew punk music one way:  in my youth.  i grew up to a certain >sound...and 
it changed.  its the common saying "their first album is >their best."


You're suggesting that people actually "grow" INTO a sound, be it Punk, 
Detroit techno or whatever. It continues:



...about 6 months ago...i heard the soundz of techno.  it amazed me. it
enlightened meand it took me away.  but...i cant get into alot of >the 
older detroit stuff  why?  b/c its not the style i was introduced >to...


I don't agree with you that one has to be "introduced" to a certain sound or 
style, and that the first encounters with any new musical style are the best 
or strongest you can have. Of course there's a special nostalgia for it, 
remembering the "good ol'days", but it has nothing to do with how good music 
is. Or what you may or may not like.


I wasn't listening to classic Detroit Techno when it first came in the 80's 
(I started in the early 90's), but I like it A LOT. I don't have any special 
nostalgia for it, but nevertheless I find the music's depth, energy and 
innovation outstanding. I understand the importance of this music, as well 
as any other style's importance in the chain of musical culture. I listen to 
50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's music and find amazing pieces of work from 
all genres, all the time.


I find this philosophy that "every generation has it's idols" disturbing. 
People are not computers where you download a certain operation system every 
other year (=musical "trends"), and once you've passed your youth you're 
stuck with the music you listened to. Of course not. Music is culture, and 
culture has the ability to survive thousands of years, there's no sell-by 
date in it, it doesn't lose it's energy like a battery.


I think the fact that you might not like most of the D-techno has more to do 
with the fact that you like more energetic music. Maybe D-techno hasn't got 
the "bang" enough for you or something...?



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Meco's march sound

2000-09-26 Thread jim proffit

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...obscure possibility is the flipside of Meco's disco Star Wars LP
>(yes, I bought this when it first came out), which also riffed heavily 
>on the marching band sound.


Another Meco record, the "Superman" LP features some slammin snare madness 
as well. Superb tracks on that LP.



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Re: [313] Frankie Knuckles

2000-09-21 Thread jim proffit
Anyone into Frankie Knuckles may be interested in some of the records >he 
chose from his record collection...



..."The theme from the man" can't remember the artist, same
bloke who wrote the theme from Shaft.


Isaac Hayes.

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Which plant?

2000-09-17 Thread jim proffit

On Kimo's techno sale-list there was this line:


Monolake- Stratosphere/ Ice (Imbalance) 12 $8.99
First issued some two months ago in limited fashion on clear vinyl >with 
the unfortunate circumstance that the production plant went bust >so those 
in need have had to sweat out the summer months in search of >this glorious 
single.


-anybody know what pressing plant was that? Or is it the label that went 
bust?



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Re: [313] If

2000-09-13 Thread jim proffit

Jason wrote:

think it was mentioned awhile back, but did anyone manage to tape the 
>radio broadcast of:


IF @ helsinki turbo 5, helsinki, 9 september 2000

would love a copy if anyone did!



I think it should be archived in RA-format, or something, on some 
web-site...? Mr. Phinnweb propably knows.


I have it PARTLY on tape: I had to be somewhere else while the show was 
airing (dealing records in the city, to be precise), and since I have an 
older tapemachine that doesn't switch to other side when the first side 
ends, I had to tell my MUM to switch the cassette and so on..., so you can 
imagine there's few missing parts in my tape.


Few tracks I identified:

Casco-Cybernatic love
Hipnosis-End title (Blade runner)
Parallax corp.-Cocadisco
Charly-Spacer woman
I-f-Space invaders... (some ***ked-up freaky version, screaming etc.)
Mark Imperial-J'Adore dancer (last track in the mix)


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Re: [313] express records & u-trax

2000-09-08 Thread jim proffit

Simon Conway:


...anyone know where there's a discog. for the u-trax label ?


There's one at:

http://ad.techno.org/


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Radio Helsinki & I-F

2000-09-04 Thread jim proffit
Not sure if any finlander has already advertised this, but there should be 
I-F's live gig from Helsinki Turbo happening broadcasted via Radio Helsinki:


http://www.radiohelsinki.net

It's a temporary station (couple weeks) that broadcasts all kinds of 
interesting stuff. Jori Hulkkonen's gig should be there, some HIP HOP and 
stuff by Didier & Anonymous. Also Eliot Ness' mixes every day should include 
some older techno from the 90's, or so I'm told.


Don't be surprised by the ROCK'N'ROLL progs every now and then, it's not all 
techno there!!!


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Re: [313] Track ID

2000-09-03 Thread jim proffit

Cyclone Wehner:

Is anyone familiar with a track called Wish You Were >Here? Who does it? 
Should I know this?


Almost everybody does it! At least there are many tracks that are titled 
"Wish you were here", but of course the tracks may be very different from 
each other.


Just check www.gemm.com and use their title search and you come up with lots 
of names.


But the most famous has to be PINK FLOYD'S version,
of course.


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Mills & Metropolis

2000-09-02 Thread jim proffit

Glyph wrote:

Speaking of Mills, when I was in Berlin for the >MusikUndMaschine, I heard 
that he has the rights to the >great silent film, "Metropolis"...


What kind of rights? I don't understand. He surely didn't BUY the rights to 
film Metropolis, like Michael Jackson did with the Beatles :) Or did he?


...and is releasing a new version with his own >soundtrack!!!  The Fritz 
Lang people loved his idea and >went ahead and gave him the license.  I 
think it'll be >out on DVD only.



What will the guy come up with next?



I'm wondering how he hasn't made any film contributions earlier, even for 
small indy films. To me "Cycle 30" was film music. It reminded me of the 
early Film noir, Lang's "M" and such expressionist films, with those classic 
psycho strings and DARK atmospheres. Classy.



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Moroder's Metropolis '84

2000-09-02 Thread jim proffit

Cyclone Wehner wrote:

I am just trying to remember, Moroder did the >soundtrack but I know 
Queen's Freddie Mercury was >involved - he did that song Love Kills. But 
Radio Ga Ga
definitely used parts of the film Metropolis in the >video clip and was on 
their LP The Works.


The Metropolis soundtrack, it's quite AOR-type stuff. Very similar to 
"Scarface" OST, but not that good IMO. Metropolis came a year later than 
Scarface, so there are
obviously similarities. As with his other soundtracks, I prefer the 
instrumental tracks, they still have that classic Moroder magic. "Machines" 
is quite handy at

+8 ;).

Anyone know if the tracks "Night drive" and "Palm Springs drive" from 
American Gigolo OST were released as 12" singles? I know italians did cover 
versions of them, and remember seeing Night drive as a 7" on some list 
but... ???


Anyway:
The tracks on Metropolis'84 soundtrack are:

A:
1. Freddie Mercury-Love kills
2. Pat Benatar-Here's my heart
3. Jon Anderson-Cage of freedom
4. Cycle V-Blood from a stone
5. Giorgio Moroder-The Legend of Babel

B:
1. Bonnie Tyler-Here she comes
2. Loverboy-Destruction
3. Billy Squier-On your own
4. Adam Ant-What's going on
5. Giorgio Moroder-Machines


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Re: [313] UR RIPOFF - link to audio file

2000-08-21 Thread jim proffit

Stacey wrote:


Was the track in question titled Time to Burn or was it >called something
eles??


Yes it was. Storm -"Time to burn"...


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Raunchy ladies

2000-08-18 Thread jim proffit
Any Rudy Ray Moore fans out there? I'm trying to locate a sample that the 2 
Live Crew used, a woman saying:


"If the night's well, you fu*k the p*ssy..."

I'm thinking it might be Queen Bee... Or is it from some movie?
Any info appreciated ;)


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Re: [313] OUTRAGE! When action????

2000-08-17 Thread jim proffit

Simon Walley wrote:


Its not that Jaguar rip-off, its some wack trance track that samples very
heavily from X-101s _Sonic Destroyer_ (the 'rave' stabs at the beginning).


God knows how many "rave"-records were there that sampled the infamous 
"chant" from UR. That African-type tribal "WAR-chant"...

I think the original was from Riot EP.


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Re: [313] jungle brothers & HipHouse

2000-08-17 Thread jim proffit

Otto wrote:


James already mentioned Fast E-double D-I-E, "Git On Up" is a classic,
no matter what anyone else says. So there. LOL! I bet the Tyree Cooper
mix on the flip is still spinnable, with that hypnotic organ loop and
just the "Git On Up" sample without the rap.



Other recommendations:
Doug Lazy - "Let It Roll"
Tony Scott - "The Chief" Krush - "House Arrest"
2 in a Room


How about "Knock you out da box" or "You ain't nobody" by Kool Rock Steady? 
Oh boy, there were bunch of those tracks... KC Flightt's "Let's get jazzy" 
-the ULTIMATE bass line.


One record that never gets mentioned is The Renegades' "TAG", from 91. 
Though it's not Hip house, it's a classic vocal (if not SCAT) track by Mike 
Dunn. Love it.



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RE: [313] UK 313ers; Mills on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2000-08-17 Thread jim proffit

johno wrote:


Hu Jim, Sven Väth's new club? You mean Cocoon? Oh yeah, you have seen >that
monster line-up of last weekend in Cologne? I was tempted, but it was a
7-hour drive so...  I don't think it is a club, rather an event kinda 
>thing.

Can you get hold of a recording of this radio broadcast?


I can ask my friends. Other finlanders on this list; do you have those mixes 
on tape? Pistakaa ne nettiin niin jengi voi kayda kuuntelemassa;) Let's see 
if we can put them online, or if someone's already done it, report.



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Re: [313] UK 313ers; was Mills on radio 1 at the weekend?

2000-08-17 Thread jim proffit

Derek wrote:


Was Mills on radio 1 at the weekend?
(Pete Tong's essential mix)


Y'mean the opening of Sven Vath's new club? I don' know about England but in 
Finland there was live broadcast on radio. Mills was playing, DJ Rush and 
some others I can't remember...



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AX20-How limited?

2000-08-16 Thread jim proffit

Just how "limited" is Axis 20-Every dog... double?

I ordered it today and I'm waiting with interest what it sounz like... I 
prefer the less bangin stuff from him, in the vein of "Cycle 30" and such. 
Also bought 2 copies of Paul Johnson's 12" on Chicago underground, whoow!!! 
S.O.S. -here I cum!



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Re: [313] Mixed Up in the Hague Tracklisting

2000-08-16 Thread jim proffit

swanbon wrote:


> 09. Vangelis: Blade Runner (Endtitle)
And this is actually the Hypnosis re-make.


Actually it's HIPnosis :)



10. Message from the future: Robot Is Systematic


Can't believe he chose this version. 'Lectric workers' version was better 
IMO.




15. Mr Flagio: Take a Chance
(Look also for the Material version produced by Bill Laswell in 1982


The Bill Laswell version IS the original... but Flagio's is better.


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Re: [313] Another Month, Another Posting...

2000-08-16 Thread jim proffit

AeOtaku wrote:


Is anyone else out there still waiting on
items from Johanna Thomson?



if anyone out there knows how to get in
touch with her, please get her to check her
e-mail and contact me and any other people
waiting on items from her.



I suggest we do a little cross-checking: List all the records you were 
suppose to get from her, and other 313 "customers" can check if there are 
similarities between your and their shop-lists... Y'know, if someone notices 
a records that he/she got from Johanna, then it's safe to say you'll never 
see that item in your collection. Unless she had multiple copies, but I 
doubt...


She misplaced one record in my order, Warehouse 001 -> 002, which obviously 
was a minor "mistake" as WH002 (Armando-100% of disin' you) is less valuable 
than the first WH (Armando-Land of confusion)...



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Re: [313] Dancing in the Streets-May speak

2000-08-12 Thread jim proffit
Yea I've heard that D'n'B track. I first saw the document, then about six 
months later I heard that track. I thought it was little overdramatic... the 
track I mean.


Derrick actually stumbles with the words in the document, I guess he was so 
enthusiastic about speaking his mind.



jurren baars wrote:

That's funny, i've got a D'n'B track that uses that >sample, didn't know it 
was a Derrick May quote. Can't >remember what track it is, but i guess it 
is something >on Good Looking records or Movin Shadow since i was >really 
into those kind of records in '96-'97.

jurren


Florian wrote:

I transcribed part of Derrick May's words from 'Planet >>Rock', the final 
episode of the BBC series 'Dancing in >>the Streets':'It's sad, in the 
20th century, in the >>1990's, we have to still go the same bullshit route 
>>that other black artists have had to go to get >>acceptance.
Because we're not entertaining bouffant idiots, we >>have to go someplace 
else to be accpeted, and that's >>absolute bullshit.
If it wasn't for the independents, for the small, >>dinky little cities, 
and the few little ghetto black >>guys trying to make music, it would have 
never happened. As quite as it's kept some of >>these guys will never make 
a dime.
Some of these guys will be poor and die alone. But in >>the process, 
they've been the true renegades, and the >>true rebels always walk alone 
anyway.'

peace out,florian



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Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators

2000-08-11 Thread jim proffit

JARED WILSON wrote:

Yes, The "innovators'" music is good and important, but they are >producers 
just like everyone else and are not "gods".  What I mean by >that is just 
because they touch something does not mean it turns to >gold.


It certainly doesn't. I can think of couple records that are not good even 
if they have the maestros performing tricks on them. How about:


Liaz -"House sensation" Magic Juan RMXS 12"(10 records) -Annoying sounds, 
sounds like the mixing was all f**ked up...


One on one -"" (10 records) -This one's title I don't remember, it was 
"Boy..." -something. Has potential soundwise, but the track doesn't hold 
itself... Also a Saunderson RMX there, doesn's save it though...


Wee papa girls -"" Kevin Saunderson RMX -Again I don't bother with the 
title. I remember this one had some awful 303 (???), somekind of 
acid-attempt tried.


Sure there are others, gotta check my crates if I find more hidden 
"treasures" ;)



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PS. One funny curiosity when we talk about RMXs: Anyone heard the
DJ International RMXs of Pet shop boys' version of "It's alright"? Tyree and 
Fast Eddie did some 909 work on that track, which of course, was originally 
Stering Void's track on DJ International. Nothing special, interesting 
though.


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