Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-10 Thread scott mcgill
I remember Claude Young banging out Blam tha Target to great effect.

What was the other Landstrumm release on Peacefrog after that one?  Green
cover, I have it somewhere, totally solid ep altogether.

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 On Wed, 9 May 2001, lauryn goller wrote:

   Neil Landstrumm
  Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just love
Blam
  the target
 
  is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another
copy...

 I recall that it's on Peacefrog, yellow label with a frog smoking a huge
 joint on the back. So it's out of print, Peacefrog's releases are usually
 quite limited and I don't think they have ever re-released any vinyls,
 only tracks on compillations, and even then especially on cd.

 By the way, one of my favourite tracks by Landstrumm is Zebra Crossing
 under the pseudonym Polaris. Don't remember the name of the EP it's on but
 you might want to check it out.




 J

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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-10 Thread Batory, Jason
any of the old peacefrog stuff is out of print. You might be able to find 
this one on the compilation cd series they put out a couple years back, but

I do not know if those are even in print. ;)

This would be the Peacefrog - Deletions series. Anyone got a tracklisting
for these? I think there were three volumes.

Respect
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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-10 Thread Mike Taylor
early records(In I believe chronological order, this is from memory, dont 
sue me.)


Index ep peacefrog
M-Cap ep peacefrog
Inhabit The Machines ep peacefrog
brown by august lp peacefrog
split ep (w tobias Schmidt) saetiva
Mockba ep saetiva

The first four landstrumm records are the ones to look out for, 5 and 6 are 
alright but he is starting to slip.


The 2 polaris records came out around 96-97, I am not exactly sure where 
they fit into the release order...this is where I started to lose interest.


Then came the tresor material:

Tresor presents the Scandinavia sessions ep (as navario sauro sp?)
Understanding Disinformation
Bedroom and Cities
whatever came out on scandinavia...

I guess he is doing hip-hop and other stuff now, but I have not really 
followed his career since bedroom and cities.


Take care,
Mike





From: scott mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [313] 313 stand on
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:54:49 +0100

I remember Claude Young banging out Blam tha Target to great effect.

What was the other Landstrumm release on Peacefrog after that one?  Green
cover, I have it somewhere, totally solid ep altogether.

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Subject: RE: [313] 313 stand on


 On Wed, 9 May 2001, lauryn goller wrote:

   Neil Landstrumm
  Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just 
love

Blam
  the target
 
  is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another
copy...

 I recall that it's on Peacefrog, yellow label with a frog smoking a huge
 joint on the back. So it's out of print, Peacefrog's releases are 
usually

 quite limited and I don't think they have ever re-released any vinyls,
 only tracks on compillations, and even then especially on cd.

 By the way, one of my favourite tracks by Landstrumm is Zebra Crossing
 under the pseudonym Polaris. Don't remember the name of the EP it's on 
but

 you might want to check it out.




 J

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-10 Thread Ian
on 5/9/01 8:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This would be the Peacefrog - Deletions series. Anyone got a tracklisting
 for these? I think there were three volumes.

Deletions Vol. 2 CD

PF014:
Shake - Sonar 123
Nuero-Polotique - Mind you don't trip
Reel by Real - Surkit
Infiniti - Sunlight
PF034:
Neil Landstrumm - Takks
Neil Landstrumm - Disfunction
Neil Landstrumm - Field Preaching
Neil Landstrumm - Telex
PF015:
DBX - Superphreak
DBX - Spacetalk
DBX - SignalZero
DBX - City on the Edge of Forever

I've not seen the other two volumes...
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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-10 Thread scott mcgill
That was it - Index ep.

Cheers, you ever efficient so and so's.

SMc

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 early records(In I believe chronological order, this is from memory, dont
 sue me.)

 Index ep peacefrog
 M-Cap ep peacefrog
 Inhabit The Machines ep peacefrog
 brown by august lp peacefrog
 split ep (w tobias Schmidt) saetiva
 Mockba ep saetiva

 The first four landstrumm records are the ones to look out for, 5 and 6
are
 alright but he is starting to slip.

 The 2 polaris records came out around 96-97, I am not exactly sure where
 they fit into the release order...this is where I started to lose
interest.

 Then came the tresor material:

 Tresor presents the Scandinavia sessions ep (as navario sauro sp?)
 Understanding Disinformation
 Bedroom and Cities
 whatever came out on scandinavia...

 I guess he is doing hip-hop and other stuff now, but I have not really
 followed his career since bedroom and cities.

 Take care,
 Mike




 From: scott mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: [313] 313 stand on
 Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:54:49 +0100
 
 I remember Claude Young banging out Blam tha Target to great effect.
 
 What was the other Landstrumm release on Peacefrog after that one?  Green
 cover, I have it somewhere, totally solid ep altogether.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: lauryn goller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:06 PM
 Subject: RE: [313] 313 stand on
 
 
   On Wed, 9 May 2001, lauryn goller wrote:
  
 Neil Landstrumm
Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just
 love
 Blam
the target
   
is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another
 copy...
  
   I recall that it's on Peacefrog, yellow label with a frog smoking a
huge
   joint on the back. So it's out of print, Peacefrog's releases are
 usually
   quite limited and I don't think they have ever re-released any vinyls,
   only tracks on compillations, and even then especially on cd.
  
   By the way, one of my favourite tracks by Landstrumm is Zebra Crossing
   under the pseudonym Polaris. Don't remember the name of the EP it's on
 but
   you might want to check it out.
  
  
  
  
   J
  
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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Just because these two haven't been mentioned (much) so far :

 Neil Landstrumm
Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just love Blam
the target

 Dave Tarrida
Recently bought his Paranoid album, haven't had much time top listen to it
thoroughly, but it clearly sounds very interesting, hard-hitting but with an
interest in bizarre sounds and weird structures...

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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread lauryn goller
 Neil Landstrumm
Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just love Blam
the target

oh i love that one...i used to have inhabit the machines, but somewhere 
in moving, it didn't come with me. :(

is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another copy...

danke. 
l


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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread Jussi Lehtonen
On Wed, 9 May 2001, lauryn goller wrote:

  Neil Landstrumm
 Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just love Blam
 the target

 is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another copy...

I recall that it's on Peacefrog, yellow label with a frog smoking a huge
joint on the back. So it's out of print, Peacefrog's releases are usually
quite limited and I don't think they have ever re-released any vinyls,
only tracks on compillations, and even then especially on cd.

By the way, one of my favourite tracks by Landstrumm is Zebra Crossing
under the pseudonym Polaris. Don't remember the name of the EP it's on but
you might want to check it out.




J

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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread Mike Taylor


any of the old peacefrog stuff is out of print. You might be able to find 
this one on the compilation cd series they put out a couple years back, but 
I do not know if those are even in print. ;)


I used to have a real stiffy for the tracky stuff he did until brown by 
august. That stuff, early blue arsed fly, polaris, toby schmidt, vogel and 
old subhead, mosquito, saetiva, mid 90's screwed up uk techno. I used to 
have all that stuff, but I had to move it out in the name of house cleaning 
and maturity.


ahh, those were the days when all it took to entertain me was the holy 
trinity of 909/rz-1/pro-1. The simple musical pleasures of a teenager...I 
cannot get into that stuff anymore, but geez I used to love it then.


take care,
Mike



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Date: Wed,  9 May 2001 08:47:34 -0400

 Neil Landstrumm
Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just love 
Blam

the target

oh i love that one...i used to have inhabit the machines, but 
somewhere in moving, it didn't come with me. :(


is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another copy...

danke.
l


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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread John Osselaer
There are two Landstrumms on Sonic Groove under the Polaris guise: Spreading 
The Web is one, but I miss the other one. Anybody? I hope they still have it 
at Sonic Groove because KJ and me will be walking in there pretty soon.


John



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To: lauryn goller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [313] 313 stand on
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:06:49 +0300 (EEST)

On Wed, 9 May 2001, lauryn goller wrote:

  Neil Landstrumm
 Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just love 
Blam

 the target

 is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another 
copy...


I recall that it's on Peacefrog, yellow label with a frog smoking a huge
joint on the back. So it's out of print, Peacefrog's releases are usually
quite limited and I don't think they have ever re-released any vinyls,
only tracks on compillations, and even then especially on cd.

By the way, one of my favourite tracks by Landstrumm is Zebra Crossing
under the pseudonym Polaris. Don't remember the name of the EP it's on but
you might want to check it out.




J

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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread Mike Taylor


it was called: the encryption factor

if you are nice, I might look through my crates and see if I still have it. 
If I do it is yours.



From: John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [313] 313 stand on
Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:47:43 +0200

There are two Landstrumms on Sonic Groove under the Polaris guise: 
Spreading
The Web is one, but I miss the other one. Anybody? I hope they still have 
it

at Sonic Groove because KJ and me will be walking in there pretty soon.

John



From: Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lauryn goller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] 313 stand on
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:06:49 +0300 (EEST)

On Wed, 9 May 2001, lauryn goller wrote:

  Neil Landstrumm
 Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just love
Blam
 the target

 is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another
copy...

I recall that it's on Peacefrog, yellow label with a frog smoking a huge
joint on the back. So it's out of print, Peacefrog's releases are usually
quite limited and I don't think they have ever re-released any vinyls,
only tracks on compillations, and even then especially on cd.

By the way, one of my favourite tracks by Landstrumm is Zebra Crossing
under the pseudonym Polaris. Don't remember the name of the EP it's on but
you might want to check it out.




J

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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread Kyle J Dupuy
 
 any of the old peacefrog stuff is out of print. You might be able to find 
 this one on the compilation cd series they put out a couple years back, but 
 I do not know if those are even in print. ;)

actually, i just got pfg 001 at record time a couple months ago.

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread Jonny McIntosh
A lot of the older Peacefrog has been reappearing. I know Pete in Atlas
was/is working for them before Atlas shut and they cleared old stock
straight to Atlas, so they had quite a few of the old Planetary Assault
System, DBX etc 12s kicking around. I don't know if the Pete The Lodger
stuff was too, but that crops up here at MVE quite a bit, as it hasn't stood
the test of time quite so well. And I am STILL looking for Infiniti's
Sunlight. I will probably look for that as long as I live, seeing as it has
been about 6/7 years now!

Jonny.

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  any of the old peacefrog stuff is out of print. You might be able to
find
  this one on the compilation cd series they put out a couple years back,
but
  I do not know if those are even in print. ;)

 actually, i just got pfg 001 at record time a couple months ago.

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread peter mueller
it was rereleased about two years ago. i was lucky to pick up a copy
then...

gern geschehen :-)
peter
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:  Neil Landstrumm
: Made an excellent electro EP named Inhabit the machines, I just love
Blam
: the target
:
: oh i love that one...i used to have inhabit the machines, but
somewhere in moving, it didn't come with me. :(
:
: is it out of print or ??? cuz i would like to get ahold of another
copy...
:
: danke.
: l
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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread lauryn goller
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it was rereleased about two years ago. i was lucky to pick up a copy
then...

gern geschehen :-)
peter

yeah talk about a crazy way of how i acquired the record originally and a 
classic case in being lucky that some people just have no clue: 

somehow i ended up picking up an original copy from this guy who spun 
progressive trance who had no idea who neil landstrumm was. he somehow acquired 
the record (as well as a LOT of stuff from hyperactive, jeff mills, a fuse 
record and a lot more...) from a friend who stopped spinning and my exroommate 
who knew i loved that particular album told me about it and i bought it. 
unfortunately, i lost touch with the guy. :P 

back to work...
l

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread jkessler
I picked up most of that old Landstrumm stuff back then. It was hype back 
in those days. Now, it's like I've heard all that a thousand times. It's funny 
and nostalgic more than anything. Apparently those records are worth 
some $$$ right now. I don't know if I'd sell though.

Anyway, I'm into some of the later stuff he did more like the second Polaris 
EP, some of the Scandinavias, and a couple of his Tresor albums had 
some heavy stuff. I remember one of the live shows he did for Sonic 
Groove in NY a few years back. It was at Vinyl, the club that Body  Soul is 
held at. That was a pretty f**kin' cool PA, and party in general. The SG guys 
were droppin' CRAZY classics that night like Blake Baxter F**k You Up, 
Rhythim Is Rhythim It Is What It Is, Reese Rock to the Beat, etc, etc.

Everyone loves those classics, but how often is it that you hear DJs 
actually play a lot of them? I wish more would sometimes.

 it was rereleased about two years ago. i was lucky to pick up a copy
 then...
 
 gern geschehen :-)
 peter
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 copy...
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 : danke.
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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-09 Thread Tom Lawton
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonny
McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed round with filters 
compression to make the sounds now known as:
A lot of the older Peacefrog has been reappearing. I know Pete in Atlas
was/is working for them before Atlas shut and they cleared old stock
straight to Atlas, so they had quite a few of the old Planetary Assault
System, DBX etc 12s kicking around. I don't know if the Pete The Lodger
stuff was too, but that crops up here at MVE quite a bit, as it hasn't stood
the test of time quite so well. And I am STILL looking for Infiniti's
Sunlight. I will probably look for that as long as I live, seeing as it has
been about 6/7 years now!

Jonny.
While we're on the subject of old Peacefrog releases, if anyone has, or
get get their mitts on a copy of Ian O'Brien's Heartstings, please,
please tell me about it. 

Me need this more than air to breathe (Figuratively, of course)

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-07 Thread Majesty12



 I've been wondering for a long while what you peepz think of the stuff
made
 by guys like Justin Berkovi, Neil Landstrumm, Tobias Schmidt, Subhead,
Dave
 Tarrida and the likes...
Love it, Tobias is one of my favorites for quite some time. Was just playing
his French Revolution Part I on Scandinavia from 99'. He sings over some of
the tracks, great stuff say it again, I haven't heard it enough, if you
pick a rose, there's a thorn in that's tough I heard he sings during his
live PA's too_JS




Re: [313] 313 stand on..../dave clarke/vogel/jamie lidell

2001-05-07 Thread Christian Bloch
just wanna add jamie lidell to the list of people who are absolutely the
coolest in the scene. met him in berlin dec. '99 where he just couldn't stop
talking about all his totally weird production ideas (well he was a bit
drunk ;). can't wait till i meet him again at the roskilde festival in
denmark this summer (i'll play just before or just after his and vogel's
super collider outfit)

Christian Bloch
www.mp3.com/bloch
Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque
Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured


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  I've been wondering for a long while what you peepz think of the stuff
 made
  by guys like Justin Berkovi, Neil Landstrumm, Tobias Schmidt, Subhead,
 Dave
  Tarrida and the likes...
 Love it, Tobias is one of my favorites for quite some time. Was just
playing
 his French Revolution Part I on Scandinavia from 99'. He sings over some
of
 the tracks, great stuff say it again, I haven't heard it enough, if you
 pick a rose, there's a thorn in that's tough I heard he sings during his
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Re: [313] 313 stand on..../dave clarke/vogel/jamie lidell

2001-05-07 Thread armin holzgethan
speaking of jamie lidell, his freaking the frame ep on mosquito is one
of my all time favourites. to call it freaky is like calling the h-bomb
dangerous.
don't know if it's techno though ; )

while i'm at it, here's my current all time 10:

paris mittchel - funk electric - dance mania
lil louis - seven days - dance mania
theo parrish - dance of the drunken drums and dan ryan and lights down
low and and and ...
the it - donnie (dub) - dj int.
basic channel - q 1.1 - bc
quadrant 6 - body mechanic
m:i:5 - autogen 10 - profan
nude photo
dbx - bleeb
infinity - sunlight
eddy grant - time warp
...shit, it's hard to stop. stop.

anyone else?




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Re: [313] 313 stand on..../dave clarke/vogel/jamie lidell

2001-05-07 Thread Dennis Donohue




while i'm at it, here's my current all time 10:

paris mittchel - funk electric - dance mania
lil louis - seven days - dance mania
theo parrish - dance of the drunken drums and dan ryan and lights down
low and and and ...
the it - donnie (dub) - dj int.
basic channel - q 1.1 - bc
quadrant 6 - body mechanic
m:i:5 - autogen 10 - profan
nude photo
dbx - bleeb
infinity - sunlight
eddy grant - time warp
...shit, it's hard to stop. stop.

anyone else?


I have to hit on some DBX (I've had it in my crate lately)
If I'm not mistaken (which i could be) it's bleep
but.
Live Wire is an all time favorite
Phreak is up there as well,
but Losing Control has that Packard Plant at 4AM (or even 1515 broadway at 
4AM)quality to it

Love that stuff.

The Beginning - Derrick May (probably my all time favorite electronic song)

non-techno:
Why by GusGus, with Emiliana Torrini singing vocals.  This tune almost 
makes me cry it carries so much emotion


Cheers!
Dennis

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RE: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-05 Thread DJ Entropy
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I've been wondering for a long while what you peepz think of the stuff
made 
by guys like Justin Berkovi, Neil Landstrumm, Tobias Schmidt, Subhead,
Dave 
Tarrida and the likes...

I LOVE Justin Berkovi.

=)

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-05 Thread Phonopsia
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From: John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 4:17 AM
Subject: [313] 313 stand on


 Hi list,

 I've been wondering for a long while what you peepz think of the stuff
made
 by guys like Justin Berkovi, Neil Landstrumm, Tobias Schmidt, Subhead,
Dave
 Tarrida and the likes...

 I love most of that stuff and would rather spin that than looped techno.

 Any opinions on this strain of techno?

I love old Landstrumm from the Peacefrog days. Played some tonight. Since
then a lot of it has been close but no cigar for me. His contribution to
one of the New Electronica comps was quite nice and a good change of pace
though. The Blue Arsed Fly stuff was nice too. I don't think Russ
Gabrielle's In The Bag remix has ever strayed too far from my crate (not
that that really counts).

Berkovi Live @ I love Techno was rather bland I thought, or at least it took
a long, long time to get going - so long that I decided to check out one of
the other four stages. Haven't heard his records...

Tarrida is to Landstrumm/Vogel what Boo Williams is to Glenn Underground
IMO. Then again, I haven't given his recent output a fair shake - or Boo's
for that matter (a sick DJ though).

Excited to see Tobias Schmidt next weekend!

Dunno about Subhead.

Personally, I'd take Vogel over any of these guys though.

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-05 Thread M. Todd Smith
Phonopsia wrote:
I love old Landstrumm from the Peacefrog days. Played some tonight. Since
then a lot of it has been close but no cigar for me. His contribution to
one of the New Electronica comps was quite nice and a good change of pace
though. The Blue Arsed Fly stuff was nice too. I don't think Russ
Gabrielle's In The Bag remix has ever strayed too far from my crate (not
that that really counts).
~~~
Tristan your missing out on some of Landstrumm's best moments;  Praline
Horse, Bedrooms  Cities, Misunderstanding Disinformation (all on Tresor)
all contain some great Landstrumm gems, not to mention his Sativae output,
which  may sound a little dated now but still pumps a crowd well.  Lately
I've been really digging some downtempo tunes he's produced with Si Begg on
Mosquito (the label Russ initially heard Blue Arse Fly on to sign them to
Ferox).

Vogel on the other hand, was hit an miss for me, I love 'Lock onto Signal'
off of Tresor 5, but dislike most of his other Tresor output, with a few
exceptions, mainly 'Don't Take More' off of All Music Has come to an End
and 'Tearing the Groove shows a side of Vogel I would love to hear a whole
LP by.  Which his newest work Rescate 137, comes closer to doing, and if I
could ever find it on vinyl I would snatch it up.  For the most part though
I just don't understand his concepts, but then again I'm sure I'm not the
only one.  He's quoted as saying I make music  for f***ed up people.  Go
figure.

Si Begg has had a big hand in what Landstrumm and Vogel have put together,
and has been around since the Mosquito days (him and Vogel did 2 records on
Trope called Inevitech TR007 and TR011, I'm still looking for these and will
pay good money or trade).  He is weirder than anyone else in the No Future
camp, and has no fear of breaking the boundaries on what is and isn't music.
His concepts are clearer on his Cabbagehead material (check out 'Commercial
Suicide' for the most laughable product oriented track ever), but he too can
be quite deluded.  He sticks mostly to abstract breakbeats now (producing
for Skint and under his Buckfunk3000 guise).  Remember 'All the Way In' by
Bigfoot (feat. on Laurent Garnier's Laboratoire mix), that was Si.  I love
that tune.   His most recent output was The Noodles Foundation presents:
The Death of Cool part 2 it is basically Si doing what he does best:
f***ing sh*t up!

Berkovi, is a gearhead and writes for Future Music.  I've tried to collect
most of his output but I'm beginning to wane on it.  Especially after his
'Charm Hostel' LP came out on Force Inc. a couple of years back.  Great
producer limited by his need to be weird.

Tobias Schmidt's latest LP 'Dark of Heartness' is his best work ever IMHO,
there's no need to look back on what he has done before, same goes for
Tarrida and his latest opus 'Paranoid'.

I hate Subhead and SuperCollider really didn't hit me either.

Sorry to blather on about this, these guys really interest me though.  They
have been pioneering the weirder end of techno for so long and making it
stand out so that when labels like Perlon come along and put out some wack
ass sh*t we all think it sounds great!  Their impact on techno is far
reaching, and we will be reaping the rewards of their past output's
influence upon future generations for some time to come.

R.I.P No Future Camp

Cheers
todd



Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-05 Thread John Osselaer


Landstrumm's best moments;  Praline

Horse, Bedrooms  Cities, Misunderstanding Disinformation (all on Tresor)
all contain some great Landstrumm gems,


-- Crazy 'bout Landstrumm, but not all that much about Understanding 
Disinformation.




Vogel, He's quoted as saying I make music  for f***ed up people.  Go

figure.


-- Favorite Vogel track: They brought you at the party on that last Tresor 
LP (can't remember the title)
I once tried to interview him, but he's totally nuts and the few articles 
I've read in magz fortify this idea.


Berkovi, is a gearhead and writes for Future Music.  I've tried to collect 
most of his output but I'm beginning to wane on it.  Especially after his 
'Charm Hostel' LP came out on Force Inc. a couple of years back.  Great 
producer limited by his need to be weird.


--- Check out his new album on Music Man, should be out by now. Loved his 
LP In the Bag on Harthouse! His label Predicaments is a continuous 'must 
check' in my book.


Tobias Schmidt's latest LP 'Dark of Heartness' is his best work ever IMHO,


--- Peut! Wrong answer; latest album on Tresor: Destroy, even better than 
Dark Of Heartness.


I hate Subhead --- Ok, not always good, but keep checking and be surprised.

and SuperCollider really didn't hit me either. -- Have to disagree.

John




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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-05 Thread tim maughan
was blue arsed fly landstrum and vogel? or is my dope addled memory
playing me up again?

and i never knew it was him behind buckfunk 3000. u learn something new each
day...

- Original Message -
From: M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [313] 313 stand on


 Phonopsia wrote:
 I love old Landstrumm from the Peacefrog days. Played some tonight. Since
 then a lot of it has been close but no cigar for me. His contribution to
 one of the New Electronica comps was quite nice and a good change of pace
 though. The Blue Arsed Fly stuff was nice too. I don't think Russ
 Gabrielle's In The Bag remix has ever strayed too far from my crate (not
 that that really counts).
 ~~~
 Tristan your missing out on some of Landstrumm's best moments;  Praline
 Horse, Bedrooms  Cities, Misunderstanding Disinformation (all on Tresor)
 all contain some great Landstrumm gems, not to mention his Sativae output,
 which  may sound a little dated now but still pumps a crowd well.  Lately
 I've been really digging some downtempo tunes he's produced with Si Begg
on
 Mosquito (the label Russ initially heard Blue Arse Fly on to sign them to
 Ferox).

 Vogel on the other hand, was hit an miss for me, I love 'Lock onto Signal'
 off of Tresor 5, but dislike most of his other Tresor output, with a few
 exceptions, mainly 'Don't Take More' off of All Music Has come to an End
 and 'Tearing the Groove shows a side of Vogel I would love to hear a
whole
 LP by.  Which his newest work Rescate 137, comes closer to doing, and if I
 could ever find it on vinyl I would snatch it up.  For the most part
though
 I just don't understand his concepts, but then again I'm sure I'm not the
 only one.  He's quoted as saying I make music  for f***ed up people.  Go
 figure.

 Si Begg has had a big hand in what Landstrumm and Vogel have put together,
 and has been around since the Mosquito days (him and Vogel did 2 records
on
 Trope called Inevitech TR007 and TR011, I'm still looking for these and
will
 pay good money or trade).  He is weirder than anyone else in the No Future
 camp, and has no fear of breaking the boundaries on what is and isn't
music.
 His concepts are clearer on his Cabbagehead material (check out
'Commercial
 Suicide' for the most laughable product oriented track ever), but he too
can
 be quite deluded.  He sticks mostly to abstract breakbeats now (producing
 for Skint and under his Buckfunk3000 guise).  Remember 'All the Way In' by
 Bigfoot (feat. on Laurent Garnier's Laboratoire mix), that was Si.  I love
 that tune.   His most recent output was The Noodles Foundation presents:
 The Death of Cool part 2 it is basically Si doing what he does best:
 f***ing sh*t up!

 Berkovi, is a gearhead and writes for Future Music.  I've tried to collect
 most of his output but I'm beginning to wane on it.  Especially after his
 'Charm Hostel' LP came out on Force Inc. a couple of years back.  Great
 producer limited by his need to be weird.

 Tobias Schmidt's latest LP 'Dark of Heartness' is his best work ever IMHO,
 there's no need to look back on what he has done before, same goes for
 Tarrida and his latest opus 'Paranoid'.

 I hate Subhead and SuperCollider really didn't hit me either.

 Sorry to blather on about this, these guys really interest me though.
They
 have been pioneering the weirder end of techno for so long and making it
 stand out so that when labels like Perlon come along and put out some wack
 ass sh*t we all think it sounds great!  Their impact on techno is far
 reaching, and we will be reaping the rewards of their past output's
 influence upon future generations for some time to come.

 R.I.P No Future Camp

 Cheers
 todd


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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-05 Thread tim maughan
vogel has a strange, moody reputation in the UK. i remember he pissed off
dave clarke and others in the brighton scene for some reason, and an old
school friend of mine ended up recording an ambientish, beatless LP with him
several years ago, but it apparantly ended up with vogel stealing his then
girlfriend.

- Original Message -
From: John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [313] 313 stand on



 Landstrumm's best moments;  Praline
 Horse, Bedrooms  Cities, Misunderstanding Disinformation (all on Tresor)
 all contain some great Landstrumm gems,

 -- Crazy 'bout Landstrumm, but not all that much about Understanding
 Disinformation.
 

 Vogel, He's quoted as saying I make music  for f***ed up people.  Go
 figure.

 -- Favorite Vogel track: They brought you at the party on that last
Tresor
 LP (can't remember the title)
 I once tried to interview him, but he's totally nuts and the few articles
 I've read in magz fortify this idea.

 Berkovi, is a gearhead and writes for Future Music.  I've tried to
collect
 most of his output but I'm beginning to wane on it.  Especially after his
 'Charm Hostel' LP came out on Force Inc. a couple of years back.  Great
 producer limited by his need to be weird.

 --- Check out his new album on Music Man, should be out by now. Loved his
 LP In the Bag on Harthouse! His label Predicaments is a continuous 'must
 check' in my book.
 
 Tobias Schmidt's latest LP 'Dark of Heartness' is his best work ever
IMHO,

 --- Peut! Wrong answer; latest album on Tresor: Destroy, even better than
 Dark Of Heartness.

 I hate Subhead --- Ok, not always good, but keep checking and be
surprised.

 and SuperCollider really didn't hit me either. -- Have to disagree.

 John
 

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-05 Thread Phonopsia
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Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [313] 313 stand on


 was blue arsed fly landstrum and vogel? or is my dope addled memory
 playing me up again?

Yup. The Ferox and Mosquito stuff is worth checking. I have MSQ 004 on
Mosquito, which is really their twisted slower sound. At times painful to
listen too, at times delicious, depending on your mood.

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Re: [313] 313 stand on....

2001-05-05 Thread Phonopsia
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To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [313] 313 stand on


 Phonopsia wrote:
 I love old Landstrumm from the Peacefrog days. Played some tonight. Since
 then a lot of it has been close but no cigar for me. His contribution to
 one of the New Electronica comps was quite nice and a good change of pace
 though. The Blue Arsed Fly stuff was nice too. I don't think Russ
 Gabrielle's In The Bag remix has ever strayed too far from my crate (not
 that that really counts).
 ~~~
 Tristan your missing out on some of Landstrumm's best moments;  Praline
 Horse, Bedrooms  Cities, Misunderstanding Disinformation (all on Tresor)
 all contain some great Landstrumm gems, not to mention his Sativae output,
 which  may sound a little dated now but still pumps a crowd well.  Lately
 I've been really digging some downtempo tunes he's produced with Si Begg
on
 Mosquito (the label Russ initially heard Blue Arse Fly on to sign them to
 Ferox).

I've got Praline Horse (I like the Vogel mix), Polaris, and I've listened to
a lot of the Sativae output in stores, but once he got a lot more noisy, and
less pure-101, I lost some interest. I think that's why I prefer Vogel and
the Blue Arsed Fly stuff. I can appreciate the noisier sounds (I used to be
really into industrial music), but it's not something I really seek out, or
purchase. The Landstrumm on Tresor stuff is definitely good for what it is,
but I'm simply never in the mood for it.

 Vogel on the other hand, was hit an miss for me, I love 'Lock onto Signal'
 off of Tresor 5, but dislike most of his other Tresor output, with a few
 exceptions, mainly 'Don't Take More' off of All Music Has come to an End
 and 'Tearing the Groove shows a side of Vogel I would love to hear a
whole
 LP by.  Which his newest work Rescate 137, comes closer to doing, and if I
 could ever find it on vinyl I would snatch it up.  For the most part
though
 I just don't understand his concepts, but then again I'm sure I'm not the
 only one.  He's quoted as saying I make music  for f***ed up people.  Go
 figure.

I guess I'm one of those people. ;) I also recall a Jockey Slut interview
that was all about how he makes feminine techno, and that woman respond
really well to his music due to the controlled oddity. You'll see the sexual
metaphor spelled out in more detail on the Body Mapping lp.

If you can't tell, I'm coming to all of this from a rather dated
perspective, but I've been revisiting a lot of this material lately after a
hard techno hiatus. I've been in the mood to bang it when I spin and I don't
have much newer hard techno other than Mills and Surgeon. I really like
combining those sounds with the early Landstrumm and Vogel workings and some
Chicago stuff on Relief like Louis Bell. As I explained to a friend last
night, I think a good chunk of my taste is permanently devoted to the
Peacefrog output from releases 30-70 or thereabouts. You could practically
trace 70% of my musical likes and dislikes back to those records.

 I hate Subhead and SuperCollider really didn't hit me either.

I'm definitely into SuperCollider too. I think we're coming at this topic
from diff't angles. :)

 Their impact on techno is far
 reaching, and we will be reaping the rewards of their past output's
 influence upon future generations for some time to come.

Agreed. Is there a more pure synthesis of modern hard Detroit and Chicago
influences out there? Perhaps some of the Chicago influence has waned over
the years, but it was right up in your face in the beginning.

Oh, and I won't stand for the Perlon bashing. :)

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