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Hi iNUG and 4D Forums contributors,

Recently we launched a new 4D Forums website at https://discuss.4d.com.  This 
new site is dedicated to all 4D technical discussions and is being heavily 
monitored by 4D’s worldwide technical team. For those who have participated in 
discussions on forums.4d.com, your new place to go for all future technical 
discussions is https://discuss.4d.com. We will continue to keep forums.4d.com 
running but as read-only.

For all iNUG contributors, we would like to invite to you to give this new 
forum a try. In addition to allowing for better interaction with your fellow 4D 
developers and 4D’s technical team, there are many options for tracking and 
monitoring discussions that are relevant to you.

Thank you all for your continuing contribution to our 4D community.

Best Regards,
Add Komoncharoensiri
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San Jose, CA.

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Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

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Ah yes, sorry I skimmed too fast.

Add



From: Peter Bozek 
Date: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 11:10 AM
To: iNug <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Cc: Add Komoncharoensiri 
Subject: Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or 
expression" is an object attribute?



On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 7:04 PM Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com<mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>> wrote:
Just a little modification from Peter's code

Instead of defining an object attribute in the Variable and Expression, leave 
it blank so 4D will generate a dynamic variable for it. In the object method, 
you just need to execute the following when the On Data Change occurs.

Case of
   : (FORM Event=On Data Change)
  Form.en_edit.contact:=Self->
End case

The second part of my code deal with initialisation of dynamic variable from 
Form.en_edit.contact.

Peter Bozek
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Re: What is equivalent to SELF when a form object's "variable or expression" is an object attribute?

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Just a little modification from Peter's code

Instead of defining an object attribute in the Variable and Expression, leave 
it blank so 4D will generate a dynamic variable for it. In the object method, 
you just need to execute the following when the On Data Change occurs.

Case of
   : (FORM Event=On Data Change)
  Form.en_edit.contact:=Self->
End case

HTH,
Add




On 2-5-20, 9:50 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 9:58 PM Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

>
> So I had to resort to creating a FORMULA OBJECT that gets executed to do
> the update of the .storeLoc
>
> $formula:=Formula from string($storeLoc+":="+Qu ($UUID))  // $storeLoc is
> the full ‘path’ of the attribute, such asForm.en_edit.contact
>
>   // $UUID is the value that needs to
> be put into that attribute (i.e. field)
> $formula.call()  // ...this updates it into the entity’s attribute
>
> Seems cumbersome to need to go about it that way, but it was the only way
> I could find to accomplish it. But at least it worked.
>

Another possibility - I have not tested it, so I am not 100% sure it would
work - would be not to assign  Form property to object, and rather leave
the expression empty. Then you would have Self-> and could get pointer to
object with OBJECT Get pointer (object named;) call.

However, you would have to bind the object to the form property yourself,
with code like

case of
  :((form event=on load) | (form event=on outside call))
 Self->:=Form.en_edit.contact
  :(form event=on data change)
  Form.en_edit.contact:=Self->
end case

Peter Bozek


> The complexity is that when I define the comboBox specs, the storeLoc must
> be text, like “Form.en_edit.contact"
>
> Seems counter-intuitive to need to resort to a similar mechanism just to
> coerce a way to update a value of a form object (i.e. a ‘variable’ on a
> form).
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: How to Catch Paste Action

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Chip,

Try using On After Edit event in your enterable object. That should work 
without involving On Timer event. However, you will need to use Get edited text 
command to get the data.

HTH,
Add




On 7/19/19, 2:59 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

I have a variable in which the user enters search criteria.
They can paste from elsewhere also (as it is just text).

everything works as I want when typing, but nothing happens when the
user pastes, until they tab or click outside of the entry area.

I would like to catch the paste action, and set a timer (which is what
happen with typing), to trigger the search.

Thanks
Chip

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Re: Subform — how to get the CONTAINER OBJECT NAME in the subform form method? (17r5)

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Perhaps I wasn't clear.

1. The subform container must have the Variable Type (in the property list) set 
to Object.
2. My suggested code must be placed in the Subform Container's Object Method.

Once the code (#2) is executed, you will be able to access the Form-Data 
property within the context of the Subform execution with Form.subformName.

If you are get Form = {} or Null, then you are most definitely not executing 
"Form.subformName" from the context of the Subform.

Regards,
Add





On 7/8/19, 1:54 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

After using OBJECT Get pointer(Object current)->:=New 
object("subformName";OBJECT Get name(Object current)), I got Form ={} or 
Form=null, depending on where the code was put (subform's form method or 
container's method).


If the subform container's code is:
---
Case of
: (Form event=On Load)
$name:=OBJECT Get name(Object current)
EXECUTE METHOD IN SUBFORM($name;"setFormName";*;$name)
End case
---

and the setFormName method is:
---
C_TEXT($1)
OB SET(Form;"subformName";$1)
---

Objects in the widget can see the Parent form's name for their container in 
Form.subformName.
But it only works if the container's Variable Type is set to "None", and 
fails (Form=null) when the Type is set to "Object".

1) I was not expecting only "None" to work.
2) Is there a way for a widget's objects to know the container's name 
without help from the Host?  (Anything available from the inside?)

Thanks,
Keith - CDI

> On Jul 8, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Since your Subform Widget will be set to Object type, you can try this 
approach.
>
> Create the object method for you subform widget with the following code:
>
> If (Form event=On Load)
>OBJECT Get pointer(Object current)->:=New object("subformName";OBJECT 
Get name(Object current))
> End if
>
> Basically you are create a new property to your Form-data of the Subform 
Widget named "subformName". Once the form is loaded, you can find out the name 
of your subform container from the context of your subform execution simply by 
calling:
>
>Form.subformName
>
> HTH,
> Add
>
>
>
>
> On 7/8/19, 10:46 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4D.com> wrote:
>
>I am trying to create my own widgets. Widgets are subforms.
>
>In the parent form, I want the  INSTANCE bound variable to be an 
object.
>Inside the FORM METHOD of the widget (i.e. subform) I need to be able 
to find out the OBJECT NAME of the Parent INSTANCE of this widget.
>But I cannot find any command that will actually retrieve this 
information from within the widget’s form method when the INSTANCE is of type 
Object.
>
>In the subform’s method:
>OBJECT Get pointer(Object with focus) = nil
>OBJECT Get pointer(Object current) = nil
>OBJECT Get name(subform) = “”
>OBJECT Get pointer(Object subform container) = nil
>
>
>
>*** So how does the subform’s form method find out the name of its 
INSTANCE in the parent form? ***
>
>This is ridiculous if it cannot just because the bound variable is an 
object…
>
>Please, someone, put me out of my misery by sharing the secret. I 
cannot see why the widget’s method cannot find out ‘who it belongs to’.
>
>— Chris
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Re: Subform — how to get the CONTAINER OBJECT NAME in the subform form method? (17r5)

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Hi Chris,

Since your Subform Widget will be set to Object type, you can try this approach.

Create the object method for you subform widget with the following code:

If (Form event=On Load)
OBJECT Get pointer(Object current)->:=New object("subformName";OBJECT Get 
name(Object current))
End if

Basically you are create a new property to your Form-data of the Subform Widget 
named "subformName". Once the form is loaded, you can find out the name of your 
subform container from the context of your subform execution simply by calling:

Form.subformName

HTH,
Add




On 7/8/19, 10:46 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Chris Belanger via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4D.com> wrote:

I am trying to create my own widgets. Widgets are subforms.

In the parent form, I want the  INSTANCE bound variable to be an object.
Inside the FORM METHOD of the widget (i.e. subform) I need to be able to 
find out the OBJECT NAME of the Parent INSTANCE of this widget.
But I cannot find any command that will actually retrieve this information 
from within the widget’s form method when the INSTANCE is of type Object.

In the subform’s method:
OBJECT Get pointer(Object with focus) = nil
OBJECT Get pointer(Object current) = nil
OBJECT Get name(subform) = “”
OBJECT Get pointer(Object subform container) = nil



*** So how does the subform’s form method find out the name of its INSTANCE 
in the parent form? ***

This is ridiculous if it cannot just because the bound variable is an 
object…

Please, someone, put me out of my misery by sharing the secret. I cannot 
see why the widget’s method cannot find out ‘who it belongs to’.

— Chris
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Re: 4D World Tour 2019 - Cool new stuff are coming your way

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Hi Paul,

I am sorry to hear about your registration experience. I have forwarded this 
issue to our team. Hope it will be resolved soon. In the meantime, I recommend 
that you contact your 4D Sales Representative directly to get you registered.

Regards,
Add




On 3/22/19, 5:35 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

It sounds very good and I just try to sign up for the two day event in
London. Your shopping cart experience leaves something to be desired. After
the registration form you get a button to pay for day 2. Which then takes
you to the 4D store page which is completely useless. Firstly you have to
select your country even though you have already selected the location of
the event, there is no product selected, no shopping cart. I gave up.

Paul



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4D World Tour 2019 - Cool new stuff are coming your way

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Hi everyone,

As of now, most of you should already know about the upcoming 2019 4D World 
Tour. As one of the 4D World Tour presenters, I’m looking forward to see many 
of you and share with you some of the cool stuff we have been working on in the 
last several months. Our focus is not just to talk about the new and exciting 
features. We have want to inspire you and bring to you demonstration that is 
practical and applicable to the real world usage. Also, all attendees will take 
home a USB thumb-drive that includes all presentation, source demo 
applications, components, and documentation.

For those of you who are still deciding whether this event is worth going, the 
answer is YES, YES, and YES. The 4D World Tour comes only once every 2 years. 
The take away contents are available to the on-site attendees only, they will 
not be available anywhere else.

The US World Tour will be held in Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Seattle, Austin and 
San Jose. To register for the US World Tour, please visit 
http://go.4d.com/4DWT2019-USACanada. For the Worldwide World Tour location, 
please visit http://go.4d.com/WT2019.html.

Hope to see you there.

Add Komoncharoensiri
4D, Inc.


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Re: WritePro expression undefined

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David,

eval is a project method that will execute a PROCESS 4D TAGS. I am pretty sure 
Erick provided an explanation to what that method does.

Regards,
Add




On 12/23/18, 11:29 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of David Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

Tim!

We have great support from 4D! (Erick)

This is an effective 4D tech support work-around to the problem of 
“Undefined”.

Here “WParea” is a 4D Write Pro object.

After running this method on our converted 4D Write to 4D Write Pro 
documents, none of the embedded statements return “Undefined”.

It wraps all embedded expressions in an ‘eval(“….”)’. I did not find “eval” 
as a 4D command, but it works!

Off-Topic: Lastly, I must conceive a way to convert the embedded picts…
//-
C_OBJECT($range)
C_LONGINT($start;$end;$i;$type)
C_TEXT($text;$Newtext)

WP SELECT(WParea;wk start text;wk end text)
$range:=WP Get selection(WParea)
$start:=OB Get($range;"start")
$end:=OB Get($range;"end")

ARRAY TEXT($methodArray;0)
APPEND TO ARRAY($methodArray;"eval")
SET ALLOWED METHODS($methodArray)

For ($i;$start;$end)

$type:=ST Get content type(*;"WParea";$i;$i)

If ($type=2)  // found expression
$text:=ST Get expression($range;$i;$i)
$text:=Replace string($text;"\"";"\\\"")
$Newtext:="eval ("+"\""+$text+"\""+")"
ST INSERT EXPRESSION(*;"WParea";$Newtext;$i;$i+1)
End if

End for

//---

If you observe it, MERRY CHRISTMAS



David Ringsmuth

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Re: WritePro expression undefined

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Hi David,

If you are insert an expression into a 4D Write Pro document, the expression 
should return a value.

For example:
100+90
Current date
projectMethodThatReturnAValue

For QUERY command, the execution will produce a selection of record in memory. 
It does not return a value that can be inserted to the document.

Regards,
Add




On 12/20/18, 2:05 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of David Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

John,

We can manually limit the entry of commands and methods, since we control 
the UI that inserts expressions. It would be easier is the command SET ALLOWED 
METHODS did this for us automatically.

Thanks for your help John!

David Ringsmuth

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Re: ORDA runtime error - seems like a bug in 4D

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Hi Jeff,

We just confirmed that this is a bug occurs in 4D Remote only. We'll get it 
reported to the team.

Regards,
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On 8/13/18, 10:27 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

Forgot to add - it fails as in 4D gives a runtime error every time trying 
to execute the query (this is from 4D Remote - haven't tried single user yet):

   Error code: 1806 (dbmg)
   URL is not well formed
   component: dbmg



> On Aug 13, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Jeffrey Kain  wrote:
>
> This fails every time:
>
> C_OBJECT($selManuAbbv)
> $tManufacturerName:="Levy's"
> $selManuAbbv:=ds.ManufacturerAbbv.query("Manufacturer = 
:1";$tManufacturerName)
>
>
> It's due to the single-quote in the string. Is this a bug in 4D?

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Re: TAOW down?

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Hi Bob,

Currently our ISP in office in Paris is experiencing some issue that impact a 
few of our Online system, including TAOW. If you have an urgent need for Tech 
Support, please call our tech support directly by phone.

Regards,
Add





On 8/6/18, 8:56 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Bob Miller via 4D_Tech" 
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Since about 3pm on Friday I've been trying to file a tech support case on
taow.4d.com, but I get, "This site can't be reached".

Anyone else seeing this?


Bob Miller
Chomerics, a division of Parker Hannifin Corporation


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Re: LiveDoc Unresponsive

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Hi Steve,

http://Doc.4d.com is online and functioning. Please connect to it in the 
meantime while we are sorting out the problem.

Regards,
Add




On 8/6/18, 8:12 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

Is the livedoc website served out of France?  I'm unable to reach it.


Steve

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Re: Unable to Unregister/Register Service

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Randy,

I have not tried it but I can only guess that the attempt was made while the 
Service was running. Try this, make sure the 4D Server is not running. Run 4D 
Server with the database manually and try to Unregister then. If you still have 
a problem then we are definitely dealing with something out of ordinary.

Regards,
Add




On 11/20/17, 10:08 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Randy Engle via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

We have a customer that we are trying to update.

They can run the server app as an admin, but “Register Current Database as 
a Service” is disabled.

When we try to “Unregister Current Database” or “Unregister all Server 
Services”, the services list only show the service as “disabled”.

I know I’ve seen this before, but don’t remember what we did.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Randy Engle

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Re: List Box Basics

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Hi Steve,

Actually, there are plenty of resource on kb.4d.com about programming in 
selection based list box context. Here are some of the reference.

http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77856
http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77873
http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77871
http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76585
http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77320

HTH,

Add






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Re: What happened to 4D documentation in R releases?

[Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech]

Hi everyone,

I can understand the confusion. The format on the documentation page is a bit 
different these days. There are 2 sections you want to look for from the main 
documentation page. Under Core Documentation section, you’ll find “4D v16 R4 – 
Upgrade” and “Deprecated and Removed Features” sections. These 2 sections 
described the changes made in 4D products (both enhanced and removed).

In the “4D v16 R4 – Upgrade section, you can either click on the title or 
“What’s new page” (direct link to the landing page for all new features for the 
version). Please notice the Read documentation link at the bottom of each 
feature. Next to it, there is a link to a blog post that offers a downloadable 
example.

Obviously, this change will take some getting used to. But we do hope that you 
will find it to be more beneficial in a long term.

Regards,
Add Komoncharoensiri






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Re:

[Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech]

Hi Cannon,

I confirmed that it works in compiled mode as well. I¹ll report this to
our team.

Regards,
Add

On 6/6/17, 10:45 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech"
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

>Hi Add,
>
>I just got done testing compiled and it works there as well. This is in
>v16.1.
>
>I hope it is just a documentation issue as I really want it to work! :-)
>
>Thanks.
>
>--
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>Synergy Farm Solutions Inc.
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><can...@synergyfarmsolutions.com>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech
>><4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>>
>> I basically got it straight from the documentation. If it works, then we
>> may be dealing with an unintended behavior or a missing information from
>> the documentation. About the compiled mode, I have not tested it
>>myself. I
>> guess I can quickly test it:)
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Re:

[Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech]

Hi Cannon,

I basically got it straight from the documentation. If it works, then we
may be dealing with an unintended behavior or a missing information from
the documentation. About the compiled mode, I have not tested it myself. I
guess I can quickly test it:)

Regards,
Add

On 6/6/17, 10:20 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech"
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

>Hi Add,
>
>I have it working now, although I haven¹t tried compiled yet. Are you
>referring to compiled only?
>
>Thanks.
>
>--
>Cannon.Smith
>Synergy Farm Solutions Inc.
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>403-626-3236
><can...@synergyfarmsolutions.com>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech
>><4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>>
>> Boolean type is not a supported parameter for PROCESS 4D TAGS. Only
>>Text,
>> Number, Date, Time and Pointer are supported.
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Re:

[Add Komoncharoensiri via 4D_Tech]

Hi Cannon,

Boolean type is not a supported parameter for PROCESS 4D TAGS. Only Text,
Number, Date, Time and Pointer are supported.

Regards,
Add

On 6/6/17, 10:10 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech"
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4D_Tech@lists.4D.com> wrote:

>I¹m passing a local boolean as the fifth parameter to PROCESS 4D TAGS
>(well, seventh, actually, but the fifth one that the HTML will see). In
>the HTML document I¹m trying to do something like this:
>
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