Re: [9fans] cin is in
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CINT has nothing to do with cin. There is a good paper on cin in the > 9th Edition docs. > > It went on to become vice, which has an X interface, or samuel, which > has a sam interface. > > CINT looks pretty sucky. > your eyes are still precise, bruce. it sucks for sure. iru
Re: [9fans] patch/create problem (error?)
On Sat Sep 13 21:13:15 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > fn cp {cpmtu -m 700 $*}
>
> How about dd?
>
> Dave Eckhardt
>
dd behaves differently from cp, and patch/create
uses cp. in particular cp tries to copy the mode
bits along.
i thought it would be easier to be correct in adding
4 lines to cp than writing a shim than makes dd work
like cp. especially since cpmtu had already been
written.
i could be wrong, but that's what i was thinking.
by the way, my method is completely bogus and
accidentally works most of the time. that should
be obvious from the fact that i'm using an mtu of
700 rather than 1500 or even 1510. tcp, being a
stream protcol, doesn't respect write boundaries.
so even if the 9p messages are small enough, tcp
helpfully packs them together.
(unfortunately changing the mtu on a running interface
hung the interface. i don't know if this behavior
persists.)
9p2000 mostly hides the stream nature of tcp,
but once in a while it rears its head.
- erik
Re: [9fans] patch/create problem (error?)
> fn cp {cpmtu -m 700 $*}
How about dd?
Dave Eckhardt
Re: [9fans] cin is in
CINT has nothing to do with cin. There is a good paper on cin in the 9th Edition docs. It went on to become vice, which has an X interface, or samuel, which has a sam interface. CINT looks pretty sucky. brucee On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Iruata Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Michaelian Ennis > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I don't know how you get the source but it is a cool program. >>> >>> It can simulate itself simulating itself simulating another program. >>> Lotsa cool stuff. >>> >>> http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=107172.107190&coll=GUIDE&dl=GUIDE >> >> I couldn't find the source to CIN but I did find cint. >> >> http://root.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/ROOT/CINT >> >> It complied and ran on my mac no problem. My examination of it was >> cursory though. >> > > I used CINT only together with ROOT and personally felt using C++ as a > interpreted language a little weird; no technical remarks here, only > personal ones, tho. > > Anyway, as far as I could tell, people I know who work with ROOT on a > more daily basis write the programs as usually they do with C++ the > only difference being that they aren't compiled. They don't seem to > use the interpreter as much as programmers from other languages > considered as interpreted do. > > iru > >
Re: [9fans] patch/create problem (error?)
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:16 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyway, does 9P and Plan9 know about "path MTU discovery"? > > traditional path mtu uses icmp messages. if your router/modem/whatever > eats icmp, you're outta luck with these traditional methods. > cf. http://www.netheaven.com/pmtu.html i think there are some tricks > to get around the missing icmp messages, though. > >> Or have I something wrong at my firewall/router? >> Other of my computers (FreeBSD,Windows) don't have such problems. > > have you tried mounting sources from these machines? > > i think this problem is pecular to sources. if the pmtu is > symmetric, it seems sources is a few bytes short of a full packet. > 1510 bytes. yet when i read from a local machine, the tcp > packets are a bit long of a full packet -- 1518 bytes. > > something to look into. > > - erik I solved it. The source of this problem was an old NAT program on my router. Thanks Erik, you show me where to look for it. Antonin
Re: [9fans] cin is in
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Michaelian Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't know how you get the source but it is a cool program. >> >> It can simulate itself simulating itself simulating another program. >> Lotsa cool stuff. >> >> http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=107172.107190&coll=GUIDE&dl=GUIDE > > I couldn't find the source to CIN but I did find cint. > > http://root.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/ROOT/CINT > > It complied and ran on my mac no problem. My examination of it was > cursory though. > I used CINT only together with ROOT and personally felt using C++ as a interpreted language a little weird; no technical remarks here, only personal ones, tho. Anyway, as far as I could tell, people I know who work with ROOT on a more daily basis write the programs as usually they do with C++ the only difference being that they aren't compiled. They don't seem to use the interpreter as much as programmers from other languages considered as interpreted do. iru
Re: [9fans] purposeful omission or amnesia
> What exactly is an "anonymous poster"? Good question. I'll back down, let's encourage purely confrontational postings. Cheers! ++L
Re: [9fans] purposeful omission or amnesia
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 4:54 PM, sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:53 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is a mailing list, not your private forum. I'd like to repeat >> the call to suspend anonymous posters. > > What exactly is an "anonymous poster"? > -sqweek > > You should all get banned!1!11!
Re: [9fans] purposeful omission or amnesia
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:53 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a mailing list, not your private forum. I'd like to repeat > the call to suspend anonymous posters. What exactly is an "anonymous poster"? -sqweek
Re: [9fans] purposeful omission or amnesia
Yea, fascism and censure will solve the problem! God forbid we stop feeding the trolls! Peace uriel On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 6:53 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> s/completely/almost &/ >> >> Please don't try to educate me > > This is a mailing list, not your private forum. I'd like to repeat > the call to suspend anonymous posters. > > ++L > > >
