Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
erik quanstrom wrote: |if you have plan 9, or 9p working (say on linux or osx), then you can Hello! I now have a running 9atom system!! :-)) |"9fs 9atom". for plan 9 the incantation would be I've spend the last two weeks adding command line editing to the mailer i maintain, and am in the process of implementing basic editing without having editline(3)/readline(3) available. Harder than i thought due to multibyte and visual width issues... I hope to spend some time with 9atom next week. My current Unicode working status (S-CText:tools/make-ucd.c) also takes PropList.txt into account, which extends the sets of alphabetics and whitespace, for example -- i'll send patches if i can enhance anything and already today, and would love to see that accepted. P.S.: http://www.9atom.org/magic/man2html/2/toalpharune leads to nowhere. |- erik --steffen
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
> And since neither i do have a running 9atom nor are there 9atom > sources available for non-9atom runners (i think) i just don't > know yet how it feels or which awk is running and wether it has > the bug or not. _Soy_. > But many thanks for answering the mail. > I think this system rocks. hey, i missed this email somehow. sorry for the slow response. the 9atom sources are available in two ways. if you have plan 9, or 9p working (say on linux or osx), then you can "9fs 9atom". for plan 9 the incantation would be case atom srv $nflag -q tcp!atom.9atom.org atom && mount $nflag /srv/atom /n/atom atom i'm not quite sure how this would translate to linux or osx. otherwise, you can download the .iso, which contains all the source. http://ftp.9atom.org/other/9atom.iso.bz2 - erik
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files [solved]
Well, maybe later, on the Athlon (i think trying notebook is hard). But anyway i'm happy to have a running 9atom now. (The ~28 percent CPU usage of VM i talked about is the idle load also when installed, btw. And awk doesn't support hex. Ciao.) On 8 July 2013 22:06, Matthew Veety wrote: > On Jul 8, 2013, at 15:55, Steffen "Daode" Nurpmeso wrote: > >> Yapadapad! >> While biking i became enlightened. >> Just disabled the network and it boots (VirtualBox 4.2.16, OS X). >> It seems the system hangs around trying to get some IP address via >> DHCP?? I don't know why it does so long (minutes) and requires >> such a lot of CPU time (though of the VM) doing so, ... but it's >> working just fine! Just some more years 'till i know what i'm >> talking about!! >> >> --steffen >> > > Yeah it does that. You have to give her a static ip. If you're on wireless, > promisc sometimes helps. Best solution is install natively. > >
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files [solved]
On Jul 8, 2013, at 15:55, Steffen "Daode" Nurpmeso wrote: > Yapadapad! > While biking i became enlightened. > Just disabled the network and it boots (VirtualBox 4.2.16, OS X). > It seems the system hangs around trying to get some IP address via > DHCP?? I don't know why it does so long (minutes) and requires > such a lot of CPU time (though of the VM) doing so, ... but it's > working just fine! Just some more years 'till i know what i'm > talking about!! > > --steffen > Yeah it does that. You have to give her a static ip. If you're on wireless, promisc sometimes helps. Best solution is install natively.
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files [solved]
Yapadapad! While biking i became enlightened. Just disabled the network and it boots (VirtualBox 4.2.16, OS X). It seems the system hangs around trying to get some IP address via DHCP?? I don't know why it does so long (minutes) and requires such a lot of CPU time (though of the VM) doing so, ... but it's working just fine! Just some more years 'till i know what i'm talking about!! --steffen
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
I think you need the extension pack installed...if I uninstall it from this machine I can provoke the behaviour you describe with high cpu load and hangs after starting bin/rc. The install to disk option seems less prone to failure and sometimes it boots the live CD but takes a long time doing so. After I reinstall the extension pack and enable the USB and USB 2 controllers in the VM things start working better.
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
> The only thing which comes to my (user-space only) attention is > `igbe: unusable PciCLS: 0, using 8 longs'. Otherwise anything > looks good to me, except that, whatever i do, we loop hanging > after `init: starting /bin/rc'. that is a detail that matters only to physical devices. - erik
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
Carl Phillips wrote: |On 08/07/13 13:06, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: |> Now i only fail to get it working in VirtualBox; both of 4.2.14 |> (June 21th, 86644) and 4.2.16 (86992) hang after "init: starting |> /bin/rc" with 100% CPU time ("Live CD": ~28%). I hope i find some |> time to try it on an old but physical Athlon system on some |> weekend...:( | |Is the storage controller set to IDE? 9atom doesn't seem to like Yes. It's PIIX3(chipset; ICH9: southbridge not found) / no I/O APIC / PAE/NX / PIIX3( / 82540EM / USB / no serial bus. The only thing which comes to my (user-space only) attention is `igbe: unusable PciCLS: 0, using 8 longs'. Otherwise anything looks good to me, except that, whatever i do, we loop hanging after `init: starting /bin/rc'. |VirtualBox SATA as the hard disk/cdrom type. Also disable the Enable |absolute pointing device option if set and you might need the VirtualBox Never set. |Extension Pack installed. This i don't have. I'm using the freeware version. |Most of the other VirtualBox options don't seem to influence things too |badly (on a quick trial). --steffen
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
On 08/07/13 13:06, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: Now i only fail to get it working in VirtualBox; both of 4.2.14 (June 21th, 86644) and 4.2.16 (86992) hang after "init: starting /bin/rc" with 100% CPU time ("Live CD": ~28%). I hope i find some time to try it on an old but physical Athlon system on some weekend...:( Is the storage controller set to IDE? 9atom doesn't seem to like VirtualBox SATA as the hard disk/cdrom type. Also disable the Enable absolute pointing device option if set and you might need the VirtualBox Extension Pack installed. Most of the other VirtualBox options don't seem to influence things too badly (on a quick trial).
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
erik quanstrom wrote: |> But then, unfortunately, there were quite some copy errors which |> caused the installation to fail. |> |> /n/[newfs - dist]/68020/lib/{ape,libc.a} |> /n/[newfs - dist]/alpha/lib/{ape,libc.a} |> /n/newfs/sys/src/pcpae/{archacpi,audioac97{,m},audiohd}.c |> (because /n/newfs/sys/src/pcpae doesn't exist) | |that's unfortunate. but those files aren't required. So i tried again and over-installation "continued" after the error and therefore just worked. Now i only fail to get it working in VirtualBox; both of 4.2.14 (June 21th, 86644) and 4.2.16 (86992) hang after "init: starting /bin/rc" with 100% CPU time ("Live CD": ~28%). I hope i find some time to try it on an old but physical Athlon system on some weekend... :( And since neither i do have a running 9atom nor are there 9atom sources available for non-9atom runners (i think) i just don't know yet how it feels or which awk is running and wether it has the bug or not. _Soy_. But many thanks for answering the mail. I think this system rocks. --steffen
Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
> But then, unfortunately, there were quite some copy errors which > caused the installation to fail. > > /n/[newfs - dist]/68020/lib/{ape,libc.a} > /n/[newfs - dist]/alpha/lib/{ape,libc.a} > /n/newfs/sys/src/pcpae/{archacpi,audioac97{,m},audiohd}.c > (because /n/newfs/sys/src/pcpae doesn't exist) that's unfortunate. but those files aren't required. > P.S.: Does the Plan9/9atom awk(1) has the same bug that i ran into > this week? It is present in all awk(1)s i've tested, including > GNU awk(1) ($TAWK is simply awk, and UnicodeData.txt is 6.2.0): the one true awk (bwk's source) does not accept hex, so it doesn't have this bug. on 9atom, /sys/src/cmd/runetype has the files used to automaticly generate /lib/unicode, the unicode tables used by libc, and an awk version of /sys/src/cmd/aux/mklatinkbd.c (not used). there is also the source for the programs in rune(1), http://www.9atom.org/magic/man2html/1/rune - erik
[9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files
Hello, today i finally made it to one of the things i was looking forward to, installing 9atom. It was a truly smooth experience. (Some `cannot set [gu]id on xy' messages, mostly for a `bootes' user in /usr and /cron, and also for secstore{,/store,/who}.) But then, unfortunately, there were quite some copy errors which caused the installation to fail. /n/[newfs - dist]/68020/lib/{ape,libc.a} /n/[newfs - dist]/alpha/lib/{ape,libc.a} /n/newfs/sys/src/pcpae/{archacpi,audioac97{,m},audiohd}.c (because /n/newfs/sys/src/pcpae doesn't exist) Oh, what a shame! Is there anything i can do about that? (The 9atom.iso has been downloaded on 2013-06-25.) Any help on Monday would bee appreciated! P.S.: Does the Plan9/9atom awk(1) has the same bug that i ran into this week? It is present in all awk(1)s i've tested, including GNU awk(1) ($TAWK is simply awk, and UnicodeData.txt is 6.2.0): ## Input producers io_unicode_data() { < unicode/UnicodeData.txt ${TAWK} ' BEGIN {FS = ";" ; OFS = ";"} # There are no comments in this, but.. /^[[:space:]]*[^#]+$/ { i = $2 # Ranges must become unrolled, otherwise step on if (i !~ /, First>/) { $2 = "" print next } r1 = sprintf("%d", "0x" $1) getline r2 = sprintf("%d", "0x" $1) $2 = "" # Note: this gets around bugs in all tested awk(1)s: the range # F-D, and only that one, will *not* be evaluated unless we to # force integerfication r1 = r1 + 0 r2 = r2 + 0 while (r1 <= r2) { $1 = sprintf("%X", r1) printf "%s\n", $0 ++r1 } } ' } Thanks and ciao! --steffen