RE: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-12 Thread Richard Walker


If there is no "|" available, perhaps you could use a
substitute character (like a / or \ or ~) and do one "search
and replace" at the end of your editing so you only have to
worry about the "|" once?


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RE: [abcusers] Make only lyrics and chords from abc?

2004-12-12 Thread Richard Walker
The free programs at:

http://world.std.com/~gdallal/UKE.HTM

can produce the type output you mention.  Just run the
option that doesn't produce the ukulele chord diagrams.

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Ulf Bro
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [abcusers] Make only lyrics and chords from abc?

Hi,

(please view this with a monospaced font)

With the modern software available you can obviously print
melody without 
lyrics, print one single voice out of a multivoice file etc.

It normally should also be possible to use the same abc file
to print out 
something like this:



(1) good version:

/ /  //  || C /  F /   | C /   /   /  |
 It's been a || hard day's | night and I've been  |

Bb / /  /  | C / / / |
working like a | dog |



(2) alternate version:

CF C
It's been a hard day's night and I've been 
Bb C
Working like a dog



Or some other format that a band can use when some of them
say they don't 
necessarily need the notes (the bass player for example).

Do you see the possibility of adding such a feature, or
something like it to 
already existing software and have the result printed out as
a PS file?

???

Ulf
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RE: [abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-02 Thread Richard Walker
I got Finale 2004, used it a while and then went back to abc
and several different flavors of abc software depending on
what I need to do.


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[abcusers] jaabc2ps question

2004-11-14 Thread Richard Walker
I attempted to print instrument names associated with each
voice as follows:

V:1 name="Violin Obbligato"
(abc code for voice 1 here)
V:2 name="Chorale"
(abc code for voice 2 here)
V:3 name="Violin Harmony"
(abc code for voice 3 here)

I thought this format is supposed to print the name (Chorale
for voice 2) in front to the first occurrence of that staff.
Am I doing something incorrectly or have I misunderstood how
the name= works?


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RE: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-12 Thread Richard Walker
Believe it or not, I do most of those things using the abc
file format with a selection of abc tools:
voices - V1, V2, etc.
playback - ABCMus and others
cut/paste/copy - pick an editor that supports it
tablature - jaabc2ps and others
key / time signatures - add as needed
lyrics / fingering / chord symbols - add as needed
print ps format - abc2ps, jaabc2ps and others.  I use
ghostwriter/viewer and convert to pdf format when needed
MIDI input / output - midi2abc, abc2midi and others.  This
isn't as clean as I like since many like to add rests where
not requested, but there may even be a solution for that
file format conversions - pick as needed.  There are
several.

Most of the above are simply small tools that work with abc
format files (or produce them).  Additional tools will
surround multiple tools mentioned above and do those tasks
when called upon in a GUI environment.  Personally I just
use the command line approach with the exception of
ghostviewer when converting ps files to pdf files.

Good luck.


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RE: [abcusers] Overlay operator [New]

2004-11-11 Thread Richard Walker
http://www.mail-archive.com/abcusers%40argyll.wisemagic.com/


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RWW Taylor
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Hi/

I recently signed up to this list, and to the digest. Could
someone possibly point me to info on accessing the latter,
so that I could catch up on current issues? Is there A FAQ,
maybe? Thanks.

/RWWT

On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, at 01:34 AM, Remo D. wrote:



I realized  that the overlay operator & is the only
one that moves the
time backward.







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RE: [abcusers] trillian.mit.edu down?

2004-10-13 Thread Richard Walker
Works for me at:

http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/FindTune.html


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RE: [abcusers] spam

2004-09-02 Thread Richard Walker


SpamPal works on Windows systems.  It behaves as an e-mail
server that gets between e-mail addresses and any Windows
e-mail program in use.  It ain't perfect, but can be
configured to filter most spam.  There are probably other
programs that do a similar job.


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RE: [abcusers] Indexing tunes with ABCMUS

2004-08-26 Thread Richard Walker
Thanks - I'll try and hope for the best.  I'm registered so
it "should" work.


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[abcusers] Indexing tunes with ABCMUS

2004-08-25 Thread Richard Walker
I recently read about the ability to index tunes in one or
more abc files using ABCMUS.  Unfortunately, I have been
unable to do so.  Would some kind individual reply (maybe by
private e-mail) with some simple directions about how to
index the tunes contained in a single abc file.  If I can
get one done, multiple files should be easy from that point.
I've attempted to output txt files and html files.  The
files are created, but with no tune information indexed.


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RE: [abcusers] K:none

2004-08-18 Thread Richard Walker


What tune has no key signature?  I'm confused.


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RE: [abcusers] On parsers again - Outlook & PHP

2004-08-16 Thread Richard Walker


I use the G++ GNU product.  In fact I think they have two
FORTRAN products.  I've been thinking of writing an abc2abc
clone in FORTRAN just to play around.


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RE: [abcusers] On parsers again - Outlook & PHP

2004-08-15 Thread Richard Walker


I used the columns after 72 for sequence numbers so I could
use the sorter to put a deck of cards back in order if
(when) I dropped them.  Up to 72, I used for FORTRAN code.
lol  ... and on a good day I could get two or three runs at
the school computer.


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RE: [abcusers] On parsers again

2004-08-14 Thread Richard Walker


Seems like a parser should only deal with what is the
current standard.


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[abcusers] abc format to chord chart

2004-08-11 Thread Richard Walker
I'm looking for a simple program (DOS, Windows, JAVA, C,
BASIC or FORTRAN - yeah right) that will take an abc format
file and convert it to a chord chart while preserving the
lyrics if they are included in the abc format file.

Does such a program already exist?  I did spot a perl script
written by Anselm Lingnau a few years back that could
certainly be transformed.


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RE: [abcusers] How to transpose abc to abc?

2004-08-06 Thread Richard Walker


Sure does.  Encore used to depend on the direction you were
transposing to specifiy the key signature.  Down would give
you Db; up would give you C#.

I just tried with with abc2abc and it gave Db both ways.
You could use a text editor and change the key to C# instead
of Db, but that isn't very elegant.  Makes me wonder if the
source code is out there.


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RE: [abcusers] How to transpose abc to abc?

2004-08-05 Thread Richard Walker
<>Is there an option/switch to transpose abc-files into
abc-files?>

I use abc2abc with -e to get rid of errors and -t with
either a positive or negative number of half steps to
transpose.  If everything is OK I end it by redirecting the
output to a file with >somefile.abc

abc2abc input.abc -e -t n >output.abc



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[abcusers] Chorus vs. Lyrics

2004-08-03 Thread Richard Walker
I have tunes with multiple verses and one chorus.  When I
create notation, the space used for the chorus equals the
space used for the verses, even though there is only one
chorus.  Is there a way to leave the verses alone, yet cause
the space used for the chorus to shrink to a single line?


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RE: [abcusers] Copyright indication / version indication

2004-08-01 Thread Richard Walker
Something like:
N:(c) Copyright Joe Blow
would print at the bottom of some abc software if printing
notes are enabled.



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RE: [abcusers] ABC parser output data structure.

2004-07-27 Thread Richard Walker
I'm definitely confused.  I'll just keep reading and maybe
I'll catch on to the goal.

ABC is a text format and it seems like most things
associated with ABC might fit better if text, but then again
I don't exactly know what is being proposed.  If it is to
read ABC files and convert them to other formats for a
variety of OS and software, seems like Java (stand-alone)
would be something to consider.  Isn't that software totally
portable to other platforms?

I'm back to the reading mode ...


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RE: [abcusers] Copyright Issues ... One More Kick At The Can

2004-07-26 Thread Richard Walker

<...they can wind up hurting the public rather than
providing a benefit.>

Therein lies the crux of the matter.  The only one ever
benefiting (at least with the exception of "maybe" 10% or
so) is ASCAP or RIAA or whoever owns the rights to the work.
They try to make certain that "artist" is in their title,
but it is all about how much money "THEY" can make.  Note
how much artists in the 40s and 50s --perhaps even 60s --
made.  Most are broke.  All expenses are usually the
responsibility of the artists.  The agencies, though, get
their amounts off the top.  They are powerful, have plenty
of connections with elected officials and keep "public
domain" as meaningless as possible.  (a few bars of "Slip
sliding away" please.)


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RE: [abcusers] Copyright Issues ... Socks and America Bashing

2004-07-24 Thread Richard Walker
I love America too -- especially the ability to comment,
from time to time, that everything isn't perfect AND that a
few items might want to be closely watched.

ABC is a format used to notate tunes.  Would it come as a
surprise if a few of those corporations with their own
agendas attempted to only allow public domain tunes (if they
haven't been able to place those under their control) to be
so notated?  I know they have already attempted this with
midi files. 


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RE: [abcusers] Linux: NoteEdit 2.7.0: Triplets/arbitrary text

2004-07-23 Thread Richard Walker


Has this been compiled for Windows (98 / XP / etc.)?


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RE: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)

2004-07-23 Thread Richard Walker


I was trying to remember what it was that would make session
playing illegal.


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RE: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)

2004-07-22 Thread Richard Walker
If left up to Sonny Bono and the RIAA there would be no
public domain.

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This is groovy, but I'm a mite confused by the following...
It seems 
contradictory to my small brain, but prolly is not Could
you help me 
to understand?   Perhaps I need to paste earlier rows as
well... but 
these were the ones that troubled me.

Unpublished works created before 1978 that were published
before 1 
January 2003Life of the author + 70 years or 31 December
2047, 
whichever is greaterNothing. The soonest the works can
enter the 
public domain is 1 January 2048
Unpublished works created before 1978 that were published
after 31 
December 2002   Life of the author + 70 years   Works of
authors who died 
before 1934.



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>Subject: Copyright Issues addressed
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>Pardon the cross-listing but since questions about
copyright come up
>frequently on this list, I thought I'd direct your
attention to this:
>
>Copyright Term and the Public Domain in the United States
>http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/training/Hirtle_Public_Dom
ain.htm
>A reference chart to help you to determine the  copyright
status of a given
>work
>
>Best,
>g
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RE: [abcusers] is there an ABC bluegrass archive?

2004-06-29 Thread Richard Walker
There are several bluegrass tune archives.  We use many of
the same tunes for our mountain (or lap) dulcimer group --
we just play softer.  

You can check out:
http://www.everythingdulcimer.com/tab

The tab might not do you a lot of good (unless it shows the
chords) but (I think) the majority of the music shows notes.

Good luck with your hunt.


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RE: [abcusers] is there an ABC bluegrass archive?

2004-06-29 Thread Richard Walker
Learn the 1, 4 and 5 chords for the keys of D, G and A.
Practice them.  ... and just guess along where to put what.
Play relatively softly (you really have no worries - an
autoharp in with banjos, guitars, fiddles, etc.?)
HAVE FUN.  It's a hoot.
If they ask you want you want to play, say something like,
"Um, let me see, 'Will the Circle Be Unbroken.'"


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RE: [abcusers] this tune intentionally left blank

2004-06-07 Thread Richard Walker
There are keys like X:, T:, C:, N:, K:, etc. for everything
except the body of the tune.  Is there a left over symbol
that could precede the body of a tune?  ... or with the huge
collection of abc tunes that already exists, is it simply
best to write a program to do the check?

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