Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Calc 7.5.4.2 and NVDA 2023.1: NVDA Not Consistently Announcing Cell Coordinates When Navigating Using Arrow Keys

[Michael Weghorn]

On 2023-06-30 07:04, David Goldfield wrote:

Michael wrote:
At first I was baffled as I was encountering this behavior rather consistently. 
However, I now understand why you weren't seeing the problem as well as how to 
correct it.
In NVDA's Document Settings I had the "Cell Coordinates" option in the "Table 
Information" group disabled. Once I enabled this option cell coordinates are being announced correctly 
in the manner expected. Normally, if this option is disabled you will just hear NVDA announce 
"cell" instead of the coordinates, such as A1, B1, etc. However, if this option is disabled I think 
you'll encounter the issue. If you start at cell A1 move to the right a few times and then move back to the 
left. You should notice that NVDA attempts to read the cell coordinates but often reads the incorrect 
reference.


Thanks for your further analysis. I can reproduce the issue with that 
option disabled and have reported an issue in NVDA's issue tracker and 
submitted a PR that fixes the issue in my tests:


https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/15098
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/15099


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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Calc 7.5.4.2 and NVDA 2023.1: NVDA Not Consistently Announcing Cell Coordinates When Navigating Using Arrow Keys

[Jason White]

On 30/6/23 01:04, David Goldfield wrote:
At first I was baffled as I was encountering this behavior rather 
consistently. However, I now understand why you weren't seeing the 
problem as well as how to correct it.

In NVDA's Document Settings I had the "Cell Coordinates" option in the "Table 
Information" group disabled. Once I enabled this option cell coordinates are being announced correctly 
in the manner expected. Normally, if this option is disabled you will just hear NVDA announce 
"cell" instead of the coordinates, such as A1, B1, etc. However, if this option is disabled I think 
you'll encounter the issue.


Perhaps it belongs on NVDA's GitHub issue tracker, rather than with 
LibreOffice, as your explanations suggests that NVDA can obtain the 
correct information when the option is enabled.


I only run LibreOffice under Linux, where this works correctly, so I 
can't reproduce without going through the entire installation process in 
a Windows environment - and that isn't a priority right now.



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RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Calc 7.5.4.2 and NVDA 2023.1: NVDA Not Consistently Announcing Cell Coordinates When Navigating Using Arrow Keys

[David Goldfield]

Michael wrote:
>So far, I cannot reproduce this with LibreOffice 7.5.4.2 and NVDA 2023.1. When 
>I open a new spreadsheet and press the right arrow key, focus moves to cell B1 
>and NVDA announces "B1" as expected, etc.

>Is this also broken for you (if so, what exactly happens/is announced?) or is 
>your scenario more complex?

At first I was baffled as I was encountering this behavior rather consistently. 
However, I now understand why you weren't seeing the problem as well as how to 
correct it.
In NVDA's Document Settings I had the "Cell Coordinates" option in the "Table 
Information" group disabled. Once I enabled this option cell coordinates are 
being announced correctly in the manner expected. Normally, if this option is 
disabled you will just hear NVDA announce "cell" instead of the coordinates, 
such as A1, B1, etc. However, if this option is disabled I think you'll 
encounter the issue. If you start at cell A1 move to the right a few times and 
then move back to the left. You should notice that NVDA attempts to read the 
cell coordinates but often reads the incorrect reference. 



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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Calc 7.5.4.2 and NVDA 2023.1: NVDA Not Consistently Announcing Cell Coordinates When Navigating Using Arrow Keys

[Michael Weghorn]

Hello,

On 25/06/2023 19.50, David Goldfield wrote:
  


Hello. I wanted to report this in case it's not a known issue. When using
arrow keys such as right or left arrow to navigate in a Calc spreadsheet
NVDA consistently announces the incorrect cell coordinates. This does not
happen with JAWS 2023.


So far, I cannot reproduce this with LibreOffice 7.5.4.2 and NVDA 
2023.1. When I open a new spreadsheet and press the right arrow key, 
focus moves to cell B1 and NVDA announces "B1" as expected, etc.


Is this also broken for you (if so, what exactly happens/is announced?) 
or is your scenario more complex?


(What you describe sounds similar to 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150683 - but that is 
fixed in LibreOffice 7.5 already.)


Michael

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[libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Calc 7.5.4.2 and NVDA 2023.1: NVDA Not Consistently Announcing Cell Coordinates When Navigating Using Arrow Keys

[David Goldfield]

 

Hello. I wanted to report this in case it's not a known issue. When using
arrow keys such as right or left arrow to navigate in a Calc spreadsheet
NVDA consistently announces the incorrect cell coordinates. This does not
happen with JAWS 2023. 

 

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