Re: [AI] Ground Zero: They don't know what darkness is by Raj Chengappa
One more review has appeared in the Telegraph. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140627/jsp/opinion/story_18553046.jsp This Author talks about one blind woman in gujarat she is expert in sepearating stones from rice. How cool! SEE IT FEELINGLY Unpretentious and unsentimental, yet full of a dogged empathy and curiosity, THE LIGHT WITHIN: A DIFFERENT VISION OF LIFE (Niyogi, Rs 1,000) is a rich and useful book by the photojournalist, Sipra Das, about the lives of the blind and the visually impaired. It collects photographs of a wide range of men, women and children living and working with various degrees of blindness, alone or in different relationships and communities, together with brief accounts of their lives and work, collected over more than a decade. From coconut pickers and motorcycle mechanics to musicians, stage and film actors, homemakers, company executives and social workers, Das's subjects -- they are never 'objects' of pity or condescension in her eyes -- come from all over India, and from across the social spectrum. With an adventurousness that she shares with many of her subjects, and an endearing sense of humour, Das follows them around their daily lives, chores and leisure, during moments of intimacy or solitude, or when they cross over to means that aren't strictly above board in collaborating over a test paper at a special examination centre for blind students. She does this without stopping to worry too much about what the politically correct thing to do or say would be when encountering the severely challenged. Nor does she try to make art out of her photographs, or literature out of her writing, although her combining of image and text -- in no-frills sans-serif typography and design -- manages to document not only her ostensible subjects but also a great deal more. At a practical level, this book will be of immense help to social workers, educationists, counsellors, therapists and policy-makers trying to create modes of intervention and support for the visually impaired of all ages, keeping in mind the specificities of sexual, cultural and economic difference. At another level, because Das's interest in blindness is not literary, aesthetic or metaphysical (unlike that of, say, Sophie Calle or Derrida), she allows readers to reflect freely on the astonishing human materials collected in this humble and beautifully 'naïve' book. What do we make, for instance, of this episode from the life of Kamal Kanjilal, 36, a member of the Blind Opera in Calcutta? At the crowded cremation ground, he sat next to his mother's lifeless body for hours, his hand on her forehead. As the time to consign her to flames drew near, he got up and went out for a breather. By the time he returned, the body was gone, but Kamal had no way of knowing. He sat down at the same spot and thought the body lying there was his mother's. It wasn't. He held on to the stranger's body until he learnt that his mother had already been cremated. Left: Khurshida Bano, 28, from Gujarat -- a shopkeeper adept at separating stones from rice. She and her four sisters all suffer from optical atrophy. Right: A blind man touches the time. AVEEK SEN On 3/14/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: How beautifully written piece talks about ourselves. Now I understood why Mr Raj has been so upbeat about reporting and writing about blind people in particular and disabled in general. We should certainly invite author of the book Sipra Daas to discuss her photographic journey in the lives of blind people some day in Delhi. http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20131124/ground.htm They don't know what darkness is It is society that continues to remain both blind and dark about the world of the visually impaired and their extraordinary capabilities. Raj Chengappa There are so many sordid happenings in the country these days that the little good that occurs is often buried in a welter of negative news. Among them was the President of India releasing a book titled The Light Within, a photo chronicle of the many visually impaired people in our country, which I had the pleasure of introducing. The pictures taken by Sipra Das, a journalist and former colleague, show a deep understanding of the lives of the people who cannot see and yet demonstrate an extraordinary ability to experience the fullness of life shorn of self-pity, diffidence or bitterness. Billamangal Sardar visits home in Kolkata once a year, only to be greeted by neglect. Among the many telling photographs in the book that I liked is that of J. Kaul, a New Delhi teacher. While he listens to a transistor, his wife Usha, who has also lost her sight, lovingly sews a button onto his shirt. Kaul says that when he met Usha it was love at first sight, and adds, Who says I am blind? I cannot see with my eyes but I can see with my heart. That is something you cannot. Then there are moving visuals of Vishal Rao, a sightless 29-year-old, playing his
[AI] Supporting documents for time extension in exams
Dear friends, Hi. I am Pinky Gupta pursuing BBA from KSOU. I have asked them for time extension for my exams. Any how they have agreed. For that, I have been asked for the circular/supporting document to submit. If anybody can help me to get such document, it would be helpful for me. thanks and regards Pinky Gupta Mysore Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] NVDA keyboard command query
Dear Friends, In JAWS, I would use Insert+Delete to know the line number and the character number of the cursor. But I haven't found such a command in NVDA. If there is one, please let me know. Thanking in advance. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Problem with windows explorer
Yes. Savouring the pleasure of jumping to and fro on my folders. Thanks. On 6/29/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm giving you the easiest way... Just open any folder on your computer, press tab until you hear organise button, press the application key on that and get on to layout submenu, preferably uncheck everything inside, or uncheck at least preview and navigation pane and your problem will solve. I've done on many computers and none of them is reappearing this kind of problem - Original Message - From: Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Problem with windows explorer Hello Viraj, Before this solution eventually solved my problem, I was using a program called Explorer++ that is a free alternative to Windows Explorer. It is a nice program and that is another workaround this issue. Best, On 6/28/14, Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com wrote: The concerned system file got somehow corrupted or deleted, hence probably the copy pasting. Initially it worked but then the folder is freezing again. Let's see. Viraj On 28-Jun-2014, at 7:42 pm, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I am sorry, I meant to say copy pasting method in my e-mail. Anyways, why is that file copy pasted? What does it do with the system? What changes are made and how does it solve the given problem? On 6/28/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: cut paste moves the object from one location to another. copy paste keeps object in both source and destination. - Original Message - From: Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Problem with windows explorer Hi. But what does that cut pasting actually do? I mean what changes are made by that cut pasting method and how can it solve the given problem? On 6/28/14, Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there Viraj, I had a similar problem on a couple of systems. Here is a solution that I got from Access India itself that worked for me. Just give it a try, most probably you should be able to find a way out of the mess. open your drive in which windows seven is installed. Locate the folder named windows and open it. Look for a file called explorer.exe and coppy it. Don't cut it please, just coppy it. Now, locate the folder named: system32 and open it. Paste the file you coppied there and you are done. On 6/28/14, Viraj Kafle vka...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Lately I am consistently facing a problem with windows explorer on my PC loaded with windows 7 32 bit. While browsing through files on a folder, the explorer freezes and the folder is not responding message appears. After that, it takes nod less than five minutes to come back on track, and the issue often reoccurs. It has almost become impossible to work on a folder with a good number of files in it. I did a bit of Google search and found a number of possible resolutions, but I am not sure which one could be applicable in my case. Before I try those resolutions, I was wondering if someone in the list have gone through a similar situation and have found some work around. In anticipation. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Mahesh S. Panicker Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, Lady Shri Ram College, Lajpat Nagar New Delhi 110024 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
[AI] daisy app
hello i am lokanadh i want use daisy app that is amis in my mobile how it is posible pls give your suggestions to my personal mail id . lokanad...@gmail.com Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Sydney Morning Herald: Thousands to lose Disability Support Pension under changes flagged by government
What was seriously feared by disability sector in Australia has now been announced by the government there At leastin India, we get jobs which surely adds weight to our dignity, isn't it?. THis is how these developed countries treat disabled? very sad. I think we Indians can create new ideology and new paradigms in disability studies for developed countries Alas but we don't have our own Journals... http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/thousands-to-lose-disability-support-pension-under-changes-flagged-by-government-20140629-zspt7.html -- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] FYUP rollback: Why Delhi University rolled back its most ambitious reform so far
I hate UGC... Will Equal Opportunity Office in the University will see change of guard? troubling days ahead. BIggest losers poor students. no voice no hearing, so sad. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/du-fyup-rollback/99/ After days of uncertainty and protests, Delhi University has scrapped the FYUP. Shikha Sharma, Aditi Vatsa Apurva find out how and why the university rolled back its most ambitious reform so far The siege of Delhi University has ended. It witnessed demonstrations and intrigue that the premier university had not seen since the days of the anti-Mandal movement. The campaign lasted 10 days and the four-year undergraduate programme is now history. On one side, championing reforms, stood Vice-Chancellor Dinesh Singh and his lieutenants. And on the roads, outside Singh's office and Faculty of Arts, camped student bodies, teachers and politicians demanding the older system. The latter were aided by the University Grants Commission and the tacit backing of a new government at the Centre. As a former Academic Council (AC) member put it, the only thing that had changed in the one year since FYUP was implemented was the Central government. Only one person has changed during this entire controversy -- the Minister of Human Resource Development, he said. Incidentally, in 2013, FYUP had received complete backing from UGC Chairperson Ved Prakash, who did a volte-face days after the new government was sworn in. The regulatory authority has become incapable of commanding any respect. The executive head has systematically destroyed his own institution, said another DU professor. The chaos could not have started at a worse time -- on the eve of admissions. Lakhs of students from across the country flocked to Delhi, toppers with phenomenal grades looked askance till Friday when DU and Singh caved in and acceded to the UGC's demands. As the curtains come down on the first attempt in decades to drag DU -- kicking and screaming -- into the 21st century, The Sunday Express looks at the abortive FYUP saga and whether it was doomed since its very inception. BEGINNING OF END There were voices of dissent at the very beginning. It was in the AC meeting on December 24, 2012 that the course was passed by the statutory body, amid six elected members giving their dissent. If six teachers raised objections to the passing of the four year course in the AC, several others staged demonstrations outside the V-C's office even while the meeting was underway. The next few months saw protests gathering momentum. Even student groups, which had not been convinced with the arguments of the anti-FYUP campaign earlier, jumped in. Some teachers' and students' organisations had been protesting against the four year course since December 2012. Since we had not seen the course structure or content, we did not join them. It was in May 2013 when we got details of the courses, days before it was to be discussed in the Academic and Executive Councils, that we realised its implications, said Sunny Kumar, All India Students' Association Delhi State Secretary. The protests fell on deaf ears, as the DU administration retreated into a shell. It was perhaps here that the beginning of the end took shape. Efforts were made to discuss the FYUP with the DU administration. Apart from various political groups of teachers and students, a group of eminent intellectuals also raised concerns about the course with the university administration, said a member of the AC who had given his dissent. Teachers, mostly from the BJP-backed teachers' group -- National Democratic Teachers' Front (NDTF), who did not oppose the FYUP in statutory body meetings -- also joined the protests. Citing reasons like poor course content, alleged dissatisfaction among students and teachers, NDTF members maintained that they might not have dissented when the course was being passed, but they had suggested modifications. Even last year, when the programme was being implemented in haste, we gave suggestions on how the DU should take it easy, and first have the necessary infrastructure and right number of teachers in place to start a programme of this capacity. But everything happened in such a haste that we didn't even have time to organise ourselves properly to raise our voices, Ajay Bhagi from the NDTF, and a member of DU's AC, said. Under the previous Congress government, Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal had mooted the idea of abandoning the three-year course and move to a four-year system in line with global standards, particularly the US. However, the rumblings of change in DU began in 2008 with the announcement of the semester system under V-C Deepak Pental. It was also met with dissent and protests. Unlike Singh, sources said, Pental initially engaged with the opposition. There were problems with the semester system, but in the statutory body meetings, the V-C would listen to what others had to say and tried to bring everyone on board, a DU
[AI] ICSC class 4 study material
Hello list, Does anyone out here have any scanned text books for class 4th ICSC board? I need them for a VI student of mine. Do share with me if any accessible material is available, so that her parents dont have to go through the redundant process of scanning. -- Regards, Aditi Shah Software Engineer Enterprise Data Security Iraje Software Consultants Pvt. Ltd. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] ICSC class 4 study material
Hello aditi Call zainab from bookshare about this. Her number is 9650211575 Nirmal On Jun 29, 2014 12:53 PM, aditi shah shahaditi1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, Does anyone out here have any scanned text books for class 4th ICSC board? I need them for a VI student of mine. Do share with me if any accessible material is available, so that her parents dont have to go through the redundant process of scanning. -- Regards, Aditi Shah Software Engineer Enterprise Data Security Iraje Software Consultants Pvt. Ltd. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] FYUP rollback: Why Delhi University rolled back its most ambitious reform so far
There is one name missing in this news report who had played an instrumental role in designing FYUP. It is Prof. Vivek Suneja who was the ProVC at that time and was removed from his office some where in april 2013 due to some differences between him and the VC as per the reports. On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:47:26 +0530 wrote I hate UGC... Will Equal Opportunity Office in the University will see change of guard? troubling days ahead. BIggest losers poor students. no voice no hearing, so sad. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/du-fyup-rollback/99/ After days of uncertainty and protests, Delhi University has scrapped the FYUP. Shikha Sharma, Aditi Vatsa Apurva find out how and why the university rolled back its most ambitious reform so far The siege of Delhi University has ended. It witnessed demonstrations and intrigue that the premier university had not seen since the days of the anti-Mandal movement. The campaign lasted 10 days and the four-year undergraduate programme is now history. On one side, championing reforms, stood Vice-Chancellor Dinesh Singh and his lieutenants. And on the roads, outside Singh's office and Faculty of Arts, camped student bodies, teachers and politicians demanding the older system. The latter were aided by the University Grants Commission and the tacit backing of a new government at the Centre. As a former Academic Council (AC) member put it, the only thing that had changed in the one year since FYUP was implemented was the Central government. Only one person has changed during this entire controversy -- the Minister of Human Resource Development, he said. Incidentally, in 2013, FYUP had received complete backing from UGC Chairperson Ved Prakash, who did a volte-face days after the new government was sworn in. The regulatory authority has become incapable of commanding any respect. The executive head has systematically destroyed his own institution, said another DU professor. The chaos could not have started at a worse time -- on the eve of admissions. Lakhs of students from across the country flocked to Delhi, toppers with phenomenal grades looked askance till Friday when DU and Singh caved in and acceded to the UGC's demands. As the curtains come down on the first attempt in decades to drag DU -- kicking and screaming -- into the 21st century, The Sunday Express looks at the abortive FYUP saga and whether it was doomed since its very inception. BEGINNING OF END There were voices of dissent at the very beginning. It was in the AC meeting on December 24, 2012 that the course was passed by the statutory body, amid six elected members giving their dissent. If six teachers raised objections to the passing of the four year course in the AC, several others staged demonstrations outside the V-C's office even while the meeting was underway. The next few months saw protests gathering momentum. Even student groups, which had not been convinced with the arguments of the anti-FYUP campaign earlier, jumped in. Some teachers' and students' organisations had been protesting against the four year course since December 2012. Since we had not seen the course structure or content, we did not join them. It was in May 2013 when we got details of the courses, days before it was to be discussed in the Academic and Executive Councils, that we realised its implications, said Sunny Kumar, All India Students' Association Delhi State Secretary. The protests fell on deaf ears, as the DU administration retreated into a shell. It was perhaps here that the beginning of the end took shape. Efforts were made to discuss the FYUP with the DU administration. Apart from various political groups of teachers and students, a group of eminent intellectuals also raised concerns about the course with the university administration, said a member of the AC who had given his dissent. Teachers, mostly from the BJP-backed teachers' group -- National Democratic Teachers' Front (NDTF), who did not oppose the FYUP in statutory body meetings -- also joined the protests. Citing reasons like poor course content, alleged dissatisfaction among students and teachers, NDTF members maintained that they might not have dissented when the course was being passed, but they had suggested modifications. Even last year, when the programme was being implemented in haste, we gave suggestions on how the DU should take it easy, and first have the necessary infrastructure and right number of teachers in place to start a programme of this capacity. But everything happened in such a haste that we didn't even have time to organise ourselves properly to raise our voices, Ajay Bhagi from the NDTF, and a member of DU's AC, said. Under the previous Congress
Re: [AI] Sydney Morning Herald: Thousands to lose Disability Support Pension under changes flagged by government
what is the condition of our new disability bill, which was trying to put us much more backwards? On 6/29/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: What was seriously feared by disability sector in Australia has now been announced by the government there At leastin India, we get jobs which surely adds weight to our dignity, isn't it?. THis is how these developed countries treat disabled? very sad. I think we Indians can create new ideology and new paradigms in disability studies for developed countries Alas but we don't have our own Journals... http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/thousands-to-lose-disability-support-pension-under-changes-flagged-by-government-20140629-zspt7.html -- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, D R O in bank of baroda, mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query
in nvda also, press normal insert + delete placed at the number pad On 6/29/14, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, In JAWS, I would use Insert+Delete to know the line number and the character number of the cursor. But I haven't found such a command in NVDA. If there is one, please let me know. Thanking in advance. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, D R O in bank of baroda, mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] regarding S A P software accessible for us
Dear Suman, You mentioned you know insight of SAP accessibility. This technology is a key challenge for all of us. Requesting you to prepare documentation and make it available to the community. A generic write up will help lot of us and will be a good resource. I am sure our fellow access Indians would love to have such guidance from you. H. Sinh On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Suman Damera suman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am the X SAP employee and I know insight of SAP accessibility. you can contact me off thread, I can help you out. My contact number: 0 70323-71585 On 6/28/14, mukesh jain mukesh.jai...@gmail.com wrote: hello, any specific organization conducting such kind of trainings? thanks, On 6/28/14, Sandeep Gautam sandeepgau...@ntpc.co.in wrote: Dear, To improve accessibility in working with SAP, you need to install certain settings in your computer first. For all of its required settings, pl contact NAB Technical helpline 01164556968. Sandeep - Original Message - From: Shreyas N Reddy n.shreyas.re...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:57:40 +0530 (IST) Subject: [AI] regarding S A P software accessible for us hi all! as the above line says, is the software S A P accessible for blind people? If so, could I please know some details about it? My friend who is doing her BCOM wanting this as, her college provides them with extra classes or courses... She is wanting to know this, so ,please do let me know members! thanking in advance -- in regards Shreyas Nagaraj Reddy Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Regards, Mukesh jain Email: mukesh.jai...@gmail.com mukeshheerachandj...@ntpc.co.in Skype: mukeshjain211 Mob: 09977165123 Face your deficiencies and acknowledge them; but do not let them master you. Let them teach you patience, sweetness, insight. Helen Keller Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- suman Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe.
[AI] Catalogue on assistive products of Karishma Enterprises needed
Friends, I need the latest catalogue of Karishma Enterprises in which all available assistive products with their costs are listed. If anyone has it, please pass it on to me. I have already contacted KE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others? On 6/27/14, pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com wrote: there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case. I think in arrange marriages we can't even think to marry a sighted of equal status. as far as love marriages are concern, the success ratio is declining rapidly in case of both sighted partners also. I think feelings doesn't last long in tough ground realities. if you can afford the resources to compensate your blindness, then it can work. one tough reality is even a successful blind man/woman don't want to marry a blind then how can we expect a sighted to do so? in our blind field, we know each other so we can adjust bit easily. blind men can't appreciate women's beauty, and sighted men can't satisfy with the household work easily. I know acceptions are everywhere. usually blind want to Mary a sighted because of accessibility problems or say like helper kind of thing. but it doesn't come true for long. so don't think of a sighted intentionally, if it happens automatically in some cases, then its ok. don't apply on you. -- From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:29 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners One needs to step out of ones comfort zone... only then there is a chance of actually living life to its fullest! It is not the best idea to remain a frog of the same well for life, when there is such a big wide world out here! Every experience, good or bad, only enriches your life quality! It also gives you a chance to explore and to grow and evolve! I wonder why do we want rules for marriages Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:14 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrestedinmarryingblindpartners you are absolutely right, exception can not be a rule. -Original Message- From: ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 2:40 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrestedinmarryingblindpartners First of all, I am against of playing such a big gamble with my life. I really don't believe that a non disable can willingly marry a disable person. If he or she doesn't get proper match in non disable world then only he or she will consider
Re: [AI] Sydney Morning Herald: Thousands to lose Disability Support Pension under changes flagged by government
Still lying with Standing Committee. On 6/29/14, Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com wrote: what is the condition of our new disability bill, which was trying to put us much more backwards? On 6/29/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: What was seriously feared by disability sector in Australia has now been announced by the government there At leastin India, we get jobs which surely adds weight to our dignity, isn't it?. THis is how these developed countries treat disabled? very sad. I think we Indians can create new ideology and new paradigms in disability studies for developed countries Alas but we don't have our own Journals... http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/thousands-to-lose-disability-support-pension-under-changes-flagged-by-government-20140629-zspt7.html -- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, D R O in bank of baroda, mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Avinash Shahi M.Phil Research Scholar Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Excel 2013 query
Hello Folks, I am using Excel 2013 along with Window 7. I am not able to read any data in any of the cell when I press f2 key (edit mode). Even though there is data in the cell. NVDA (latest version 2014.2) announces as blank. Waiting for your response!!! -- PANCHAYATH DEVELOPMENT OFFICER GRAMA PANCHAYATHI: H GOLLAHALLI TALUK: BENGALURU SOUTH DISTRICT: BENGALURU URBAN Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Guest blog from Shadab Husain
Thanks a million for posting it yourself and appreciating it! http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want Inviting comments both of criticism and admirations. Am at your target:) http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want www.PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.in -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: 11 June 2014 15:15 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: [AI] Guest blog from Shadab Husain The Latest Blogpost from Eyeway is up! http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want Yes, it is a neat post from Shadab Husain. Read and enjoy! Regards, George Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA
hallow access Indians does nvda read's p d f document -Original Message- From: Him Prasad Gautam Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:27 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA Hi, To know the short cut keys of nvda, read the file keycommands.html. This file can be accessed by nvda menu help menu nvda command reference. In many cases, the shortcut key for desktop and laptop does not differ. But in some cases they differ. This file gives all commands of desktop, laptop and touch screen. On 6/28/14, Riju Saimon rijusai...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Thankyou very much. On 28/06/2014, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Bhavya Shah, You are right. Actually, in a laptop, the Capslock key works as NVDA key. Whereas in a desktop, the Insert key works as the NVDA key. That's the only difference. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 - Original Message - From: Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA Press NVD + 3 to toggle on and off the speaking of typed words. I am using the laptop keyboard layout in NVDA 2014.2 so the shortcut for you might differ. Alternatively, in the NVDA menu Preferences submenu Keyboard Settings you will find a check box to do the same. On 6/27/14, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: If the Keyboard setting is set to letters and words. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 - Original Message - From: Riju Saimon rijusai...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:00 PM Subject: [AI] Doubt on NVDA Dear All, Hope you are doing well. How can we listen the text in the edit box while typing in it? Regards, Riju Saimon Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah E-mail Address :- bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype - bhavya.09 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode
Re: [AI] regarding S A P software accessible for us
hello, any specific NGO taking steps to impart training on sap accessibility? else any special trainer can come and design such training in the premises of any company considering the individual needs on professional basis? I would be keen to know on this. someone has suggested nab delhi I contacted them to know more on this issue and they informed me that as of now they do not have such plans. thanks, On 6/29/14, Hardik Sinh hardiksinh1...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Suman, You mentioned you know insight of SAP accessibility. This technology is a key challenge for all of us. Requesting you to prepare documentation and make it available to the community. A generic write up will help lot of us and will be a good resource. I am sure our fellow access Indians would love to have such guidance from you. H. Sinh On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Suman Damera suman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am the X SAP employee and I know insight of SAP accessibility. you can contact me off thread, I can help you out. My contact number: 0 70323-71585 On 6/28/14, mukesh jain mukesh.jai...@gmail.com wrote: hello, any specific organization conducting such kind of trainings? thanks, On 6/28/14, Sandeep Gautam sandeepgau...@ntpc.co.in wrote: Dear, To improve accessibility in working with SAP, you need to install certain settings in your computer first. For all of its required settings, pl contact NAB Technical helpline 01164556968. Sandeep - Original Message - From: Shreyas N Reddy n.shreyas.re...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:57:40 +0530 (IST) Subject: [AI] regarding S A P software accessible for us hi all! as the above line says, is the software S A P accessible for blind people? If so, could I please know some details about it? My friend who is doing her BCOM wanting this as, her college provides them with extra classes or courses... She is wanting to know this, so ,please do let me know members! thanking in advance -- in regards Shreyas Nagaraj Reddy Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Regards, Mukesh jain Email: mukesh.jai...@gmail.com mukeshheerachandj...@ntpc.co.in Skype: mukeshjain211 Mob: 09977165123 Face your deficiencies and acknowledge them; but do not let them master you. Let them teach you patience, sweetness, insight. Helen Keller Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable
Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others? On 6/27/14, pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com wrote: there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case. I think in arrange marriages we can't even think to marry a sighted of equal status. as far as love marriages are concern, the success ratio is declining rapidly in case of both sighted partners also. I think feelings doesn't last long in tough ground realities. if you can afford the resources to compensate your blindness, then it can work. one tough reality is even a successful blind man/woman don't want to marry a blind then how can we expect a sighted to do so? in our blind field, we know each other so we can adjust bit easily. blind men can't appreciate women's beauty, and sighted men can't satisfy with the household work easily. I know acceptions are everywhere. usually blind want to Mary a sighted because of accessibility problems or say like helper kind of thing. but it doesn't come true for long. so don't think of a sighted intentionally, if it happens automatically in some cases, then its ok. don't apply on you. -- From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:29 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners One needs to step out of normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners ones comfort zone... only then there is a chance of actually living life to its fullest! It is not the best idea to remain a frog of the same well for life, when there is such a big wide world out here! Every experience, good or bad, only enriches your life quality! It also gives you a chance to explore and to grow and evolve! I wonder why do we want rules for marriages Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ;
Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marrying blind partners
Dear Pooha, Well said. On 6/26/14, Deepika N deepide...@gmail.com wrote: Well said. I agree 100% Regards, Deepika N On 6/26/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: You are quite right dear! Only party and fun is not everything. Just be yourself and you will find others like yourself too if only you look. I think if you have something to give to the world, there is a lot of people who want you, weather you are blind or sighted does not matter. What matters is what you have to share and to give. The trouble with blind people is that they only are in the habit of taking and getting! Be a contributer and you will find your rightful place in the world! And the biggest problem with humans iswhat will others say or think about me! This is not only with blind, sighted also have the same problem! Just do the right things, be a giver and contributer in your own area and field and care about others needs! You will always be needed by all... blind or sighted does not then matter! Where do you live? Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:42 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marrying blind partners Yes mam I agreed it. But sometimes compatibility is not only depend on your education, but also depend on your talkative nature. I observed most of the visually impaired persons won't be mix up in there coledge, relative and there surrounding society. They don't like fun, entertainment, parties etc etc. They them self keep away from these activities. Due to his or her blindness. One seminar i attended in amedabad BpA school, the main topic was personality development. That time Jorj sir was also their. In three days I learnt lot of thing from jorj sir and Panchal sir. Now I am not afraid to anybody what they thing about me or what they comment on my rply. So come ahead and establish a good rapoe with others mostly with sighted. Just put the shugar on your tongue, means talk sweet and polite. Am i right mam? I thing blind and sighted both are same now a days. only one need is that don't see differently to each others. Then everything will be allright. On 6/26/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I think the question is not sighted want to marry blind or not, it is all about compatibility and what who is looking for in his/her partner! The trick is that one should marry the person with whom you would want to have a life long friendship! Values, thoughts and giving is most important. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravindra Jadhav Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:34 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marrying blind partners dear, write your dout clearly. do not type the words in short. Then everybody should understood your problems. Mostly mobile user like me. Now coming to your dout. Sighted also like to mary with visually impaired persons. For example, I maried with sighted lady and i am very happy. I had only one son study in grade I. In St. Xaviers school. On 6/25/14, suhas J suhasj...@gmail.com wrote: hi my name is suhas namboodiri i am blind so i wanted to knw that in todays world were people want good looking partners for them because in my case during no girls use to even talk with me and same wase
Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA
Hi, Definitely nvda is capable to access pdf format documents. However, the text of the used language must be supported by the active TTS. Similarly if the text belongs to an Indian regional languages written in traditional ANSI encoding (i.e. non-unicode); then it is inaccessible. This inaccessibility is not from nvda but from the synthesizer in use. For English or Unicode encoding text of Indian origin, there is no problem. like Bengali or Panjabi On 6/29/14, Aravind aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com wrote: hallow access Indians does nvda read's p d f document -Original Message- From: Him Prasad Gautam Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:27 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA Hi, To know the short cut keys of nvda, read the file keycommands.html. This file can be accessed by nvda menu help menu nvda command reference. In many cases, the shortcut key for desktop and laptop does not differ. But in some cases they differ. This file gives all commands of desktop, laptop and touch screen. On 6/28/14, Riju Saimon rijusai...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Thankyou very much. On 28/06/2014, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Bhavya Shah, You are right. Actually, in a laptop, the Capslock key works as NVDA key. Whereas in a desktop, the Insert key works as the NVDA key. That's the only difference. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 - Original Message - From: Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA Press NVD + 3 to toggle on and off the speaking of typed words. I am using the laptop keyboard layout in NVDA 2014.2 so the shortcut for you might differ. Alternatively, in the NVDA menu Preferences submenu Keyboard Settings you will find a check box to do the same. On 6/27/14, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: If the Keyboard setting is set to letters and words. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 - Original Message - From: Riju Saimon rijusai...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:00 PM Subject: [AI] Doubt on NVDA Dear All, Hope you are doing well. How can we listen the text in the edit box while typing in it? Regards, Riju Saimon Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah E-mail Address :- bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype - bhavya.09 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
Re: [AI] Excel 2013 query
Hi, nvda is not perfect for excel 2013. Despite f2 you may be encounter other issues too. Development on improvement is on progress. However, for the formula bar selection (i.e. f2) nvda is incapable to capture the text even for older excels than 2013. On 6/29/14, JYOTHI jyothi.mt...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, I am using Excel 2013 along with Window 7. I am not able to read any data in any of the cell when I press f2 key (edit mode). Even though there is data in the cell. NVDA (latest version 2014.2) announces as blank. Waiting for your response!!! -- PANCHAYATH DEVELOPMENT OFFICER GRAMA PANCHAYATHI: H GOLLAHALLI TALUK: BENGALURU SOUTH DISTRICT: BENGALURU URBAN Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] FYUP rollback: Why Delhi University rolled back its most ambitious reform so far
Its indeed true that the fc's were absolutely useless and even worse for a visually impaired due to lack of proper facilities. On 6/29/14, Nikhil Jain ni...@rediffmail.com wrote: There is one name missing in this news report who had played an instrumental role in designing FYUP. It is Prof. Vivek Suneja who was the ProVC at that time and was removed from his office some where in april 2013 due to some differences between him and the VC as per the reports. On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:47:26 +0530 wrote I hate UGC... Will Equal Opportunity Office in the University will see change of guard? troubling days ahead. BIggest losers poor students. no voice no hearing, so sad. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/du-fyup-rollback/99/ After days of uncertainty and protests, Delhi University has scrapped the FYUP. Shikha Sharma, Aditi Vatsa Apurva find out how and why the university rolled back its most ambitious reform so far The siege of Delhi University has ended. It witnessed demonstrations and intrigue that the premier university had not seen since the days of the anti-Mandal movement. The campaign lasted 10 days and the four-year undergraduate programme is now history. On one side, championing reforms, stood Vice-Chancellor Dinesh Singh and his lieutenants. And on the roads, outside Singh's office and Faculty of Arts, camped student bodies, teachers and politicians demanding the older system. The latter were aided by the University Grants Commission and the tacit backing of a new government at the Centre. As a former Academic Council (AC) member put it, the only thing that had changed in the one year since FYUP was implemented was the Central government. Only one person has changed during this entire controversy -- the Minister of Human Resource Development, he said. Incidentally, in 2013, FYUP had received complete backing from UGC Chairperson Ved Prakash, who did a volte-face days after the new government was sworn in. The regulatory authority has become incapable of commanding any respect. The executive head has systematically destroyed his own institution, said another DU professor. The chaos could not have started at a worse time -- on the eve of admissions. Lakhs of students from across the country flocked to Delhi, toppers with phenomenal grades looked askance till Friday when DU and Singh caved in and acceded to the UGC's demands. As the curtains come down on the first attempt in decades to drag DU -- kicking and screaming -- into the 21st century, The Sunday Express looks at the abortive FYUP saga and whether it was doomed since its very inception. BEGINNING OF END There were voices of dissent at the very beginning. It was in the AC meeting on December 24, 2012 that the course was passed by the statutory body, amid six elected members giving their dissent. If six teachers raised objections to the passing of the four year course in the AC, several others staged demonstrations outside the V-C's office even while the meeting was underway. The next few months saw protests gathering momentum. Even student groups, which had not been convinced with the arguments of the anti-FYUP campaign earlier, jumped in. Some teachers' and students' organisations had been protesting against the four year course since December 2012. Since we had not seen the course structure or content, we did not join them. It was in May 2013 when we got details of the courses, days before it was to be discussed in the Academic and Executive Councils, that we realised its implications, said Sunny Kumar, All India Students' Association Delhi State Secretary. The protests fell on deaf ears, as the DU administration retreated into a shell. It was perhaps here that the beginning of the end took shape. Efforts were made to discuss the FYUP with the DU administration. Apart from various political groups of teachers and students, a group of eminent intellectuals also raised concerns about the course with the university administration, said a member of the AC who had given his dissent. Teachers, mostly from the BJP-backed teachers' group -- National Democratic Teachers' Front (NDTF), who did not oppose the FYUP in statutory body meetings -- also joined the protests. Citing reasons like poor course content, alleged dissatisfaction among students and teachers, NDTF members maintained that they might not have dissented when the course was being passed, but they had suggested modifications. Even last year, when the programme was being implemented in haste, we gave suggestions on how the DU should take it easy, and first have the necessary infrastructure and right number of teachers in place to start a programme
Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others? On 6/27/14, pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com wrote: there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case. I think in arrange marriages we can't even think to marry a sighted of equal status. as far as love marriages are concern, the success ratio is declining rapidly in case of both sighted partners also. I think feelings doesn't last long in tough ground realities. if you can afford the resources to compensate your blindness, then it can work. one tough reality is even a successful blind man/woman don't want to marry a blind then how can we expect a sighted to do so? in our blind field, we know each other so we can adjust bit easily. blind men can't appreciate women's beauty, and sighted men can't satisfy with the household work easily. I know acceptions are everywhere. usually blind want to Mary a sighted because of accessibility problems or say like helper kind of thing. but it doesn't come true for long. so don't think of a sighted intentionally, if it happens automatically in some cases, then its ok. don't apply on
Re: [AI] Apple mack book
Preeti, http://www.applevis.com is one place to go. The key combination command+f5 starts voice over. Pranav -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sunil Sangtani. Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:46 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book hi, though i've havent used the mac book ever, but since am also planning to get one for me, i've managed to gather some info, and so far, what so ever information i got, the mac book is very good in term of accessibility. will getting the same in next 1 or 2 days, then will share my experience. On 6/28/14, preeti gacche preetigac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I want to know about the accessibility of apple mackk book Thanks Preeti Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- checkout my blog- http://www.techbuddyishere.blogspot.in director| Chandra International | Jaipur| facebook.com/chandrainternational Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others? On 6/27/14, pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com wrote: there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case. I
Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into count. Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate table, eye contact can play a critical role. I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't matter, because it does. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others? On 6/27/14, pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com wrote: there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from interacting and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking outside is a different story. There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It is that first time we are talking of here. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of
Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
1. Physical attributes are like the opening batsmen. They take care of the shine. Some times they give you a good start. 2. But then the relationships are built on multiple factors. Common interests, love, care/share, give and take, contribution/participation. Physicality plays a very insignificant part. 3. Further to sustain a relationship, we also must grow as a person and allow our partner also to grow so that our friendship evolves and solidifies. We also need take on responsibility and play our role in the family Well I have tried to capture some factors, there could be more. George -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others? On 6/27/14, pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com wrote: there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our unique identity as it can be cast or
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicality's. still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person. -- From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways of overcoming the challenges. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of pooja Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicality's. still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person. -- From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
I think Payal, the first step is to widen our social circle and begin engaging with non blind people. We need to be patient and work on our own charm/personality factor. There is no ready formula but something that has worked for me is my smile, sense of humour and interest /concern for others. If we are self absorbed and inward looking all the time then we might not cover much ground. Having said all this, we all need to be patient and wait for the the right person to come along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 18:37 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from interacting and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking outside is a different story. There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It is that first time we are talking of here. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus
[AI] I have been admitted to Stanford Business School
Dear all, It gives me great pleasure in informing you all that I have been admitted to the Stanford Graduate School of Business for MBA. My term begins in September 2014, and I will be leaving for USA in second half of August. I feel fortunate to have been offered a spot at this prestigious school, and must thank my parents, teachers and all my guides from the AI community for their support. Thank you all for all your help, support and mentorship Warm regards, Apoorv Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that lack of sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in beating the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option. Complaining/cribbing gets us no where. I personally have a number of very close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into count. Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate table, eye contact can play a critical role. I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't matter, because it does. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know
Re: [AI] Catalogue on assistive products of Karishma Enterprises needed
Pls visitAICB website and visit our catalogue page where we have kept karishma's catalogue also. Our website: www.aicb.org.in On 6/29/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote: Friends, I need the latest catalogue of Karishma Enterprises in which all available assistive products with their costs are listed. If anyone has it, please pass it on to me. I have already contacted KE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- BE HAPPY AND MAKE OTHERS HAPPY M.Muthu Selvi Officer, Allahabad Bank and Secretary, All India Confederation of the blind. Email: muthump2...@gmail.com Skype: muthump2007 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] I have been admitted to Stanford Business School
Hey Apoorv, Congratulations. I look forward to meeting you and spending some great time with you on the farm. Welcome to Stanford! Best, On 6/29/14, Apoorv Kulkarni apoorvkulka...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, It gives me great pleasure in informing you all that I have been admitted to the Stanford Graduate School of Business for MBA. My term begins in September 2014, and I will be leaving for USA in second half of August. I feel fortunate to have been offered a spot at this prestigious school, and must thank my parents, teachers and all my guides from the AI community for their support. Thank you all for all your help, support and mentorship Warm regards, Apoorv Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
it means that a blind person can describe one's personality not a beauteousness. - Original Message - From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others? On 6/27/14, pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com wrote: there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is supposed
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
sir, how can a blind person judge the age of any unknown person sitting in front of him. a blind person can not feel the expression of face of the person. hence, we can not judge that he or she is true or false. many blind person have cheated in such type of communications. my opinion is if any one wish to marry with a sighted person, he or she should have a proper reference of their close friends or relatives. same should be applied in case of blind. - Original Message - From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners 1. Physical attributes are like the opening batsmen. They take care of the shine. Some times they give you a good start. 2. But then the relationships are built on multiple factors. Common interests, love, care/share, give and take, contribution/participation. Physicality plays a very insignificant part. 3. Further to sustain a relationship, we also must grow as a person and allow our partner also to grow so that our friendship evolves and solidifies. We also need take on responsibility and play our role in the family Well I have tried to capture some factors, there could be more. George -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
you may be right puja, but, this can also be taken in the case of blind partner. many blind couples have gone to the court to decide their matrimoniel disputes. however, you can say that in case of blind partner the percentage is very low. - Original Message - From: pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [AI]myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicality's. still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person. -- From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
i endorse your opinion sir. - Original Message - From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [AI]myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners I think Payal, the first step is to widen our social circle and begin engaging with non blind people. We need to be patient and work on our own charm/personality factor. There is no ready formula but something that has worked for me is my smile, sense of humour and interest /concern for others. If we are self absorbed and inward looking all the time then we might not cover much ground. Having said all this, we all need to be patient and wait for the the right person to come along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 18:37 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from interacting and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking outside is a different story. There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It is that first time we are talking of here. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi
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will there be any difficulty in switching fromwindow to i os? i mean is it easy to use because i havent ever used anything other the windows xp. On 6/29/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Preeti, http://www.applevis.com is one place to go. The key combination command+f5 starts voice over. Pranav -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sunil Sangtani. Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:46 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book hi, though i've havent used the mac book ever, but since am also planning to get one for me, i've managed to gather some info, and so far, what so ever information i got, the mac book is very good in term of accessibility. will getting the same in next 1 or 2 days, then will share my experience. On 6/28/14, preeti gacche preetigac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I want to know about the accessibility of apple mackk book Thanks Preeti Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- checkout my blog- http://www.techbuddyishere.blogspot.in director| Chandra International | Jaipur| facebook.com/chandrainternational Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
I agree with you there george. There is always a way forward. All of us are living examples. The point here being that practical aspects sometimes loom larger over stratergies. I am an eternal optimist where associations and friendships are concerned. I work in an entirely visually dominated world and hence have seen acceptance and dismissals equally. However, these are totally relative situations and one man's meat is another man's poison.. Good luck to all who manage with whatever works for them. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:39 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI]my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that lack of sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in beating the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option. Complaining/cribbing gets us no where. I personally have a number of very close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into count. Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate table, eye contact can play a critical role. I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't matter, because it does. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
We talk to them! We cannot do something then we cannot. We have think of alternatives. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 20:13 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners sir, how can a blind person judge the age of any unknown person sitting in front of him. a blind person can not feel the expression of face of the person. hence, we can not judge that he or she is true or false. many blind person have cheated in such type of communications. my opinion is if any one wish to marry with a sighted person, he or she should have a proper reference of their close friends or relatives. same should be applied in case of blind. - Original Message - From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners 1. Physical attributes are like the opening batsmen. They take care of the shine. Some times they give you a good start. 2. But then the relationships are built on multiple factors. Common interests, love, care/share, give and take, contribution/participation. Physicality plays a very insignificant part. 3. Further to sustain a relationship, we also must grow as a person and allow our partner also to grow so that our friendship evolves and solidifies. We also need take on responsibility and play our role in the family Well I have tried to capture some factors, there could be more. George -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind
Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Practical challenges exist. If we want to move forward, then we have to certainly look for ways around the challenge. As I always believe focus on the solutions rather than being bogged down by the problems. By saying all this I am not brushing aside the huge challenges we face and grapple with on a daily basis. But then... -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 20:38 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners I agree with you there george. There is always a way forward. All of us are living examples. The point here being that practical aspects sometimes loom larger over stratergies. I am an eternal optimist where associations and friendships are concerned. I work in an entirely visually dominated world and hence have seen acceptance and dismissals equally. However, these are totally relative situations and one man's meat is another man's poison.. Good luck to all who manage with whatever works for them. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:39 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI]my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that lack of sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in beating the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option. Complaining/cribbing gets us no where. I personally have a number of very close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into count. Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate table, eye contact can play a critical role. I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't matter, because it does. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her.
[AI] Information required from the bankers.
Hi dear access Indians, Many of you are working in various banks. I have joined in Canara bank as PO from 23-06-2014. But still I don't know what will be my job profile after going to the Office/Branch from the date-07-07-2014 onwards. I have asked to my faculties regarding my job profile after the training, but they are telling don't worry. So friends, Kindly let me know regarding my job profile and other things also. Your variable suggestions will help me to survive myself in the bank easily. Thanks and best regards Yishu pal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Apple mack book
Preeti, The environments are different and you need to get used to the Apple environment. As for difficulty, no but you need to do your own research and read. Pranav -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of preeti gacche Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:27 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book will there be any difficulty in switching fromwindow to i os? i mean is it easy to use because i havent ever used anything other the windows xp. On 6/29/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Preeti, http://www.applevis.com is one place to go. The key combination command+f5 starts voice over. Pranav -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sunil Sangtani. Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:46 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book hi, though i've havent used the mac book ever, but since am also planning to get one for me, i've managed to gather some info, and so far, what so ever information i got, the mac book is very good in term of accessibility. will getting the same in next 1 or 2 days, then will share my experience. On 6/28/14, preeti gacche preetigac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I want to know about the accessibility of apple mackk book Thanks Preeti Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- checkout my blog- http://www.techbuddyishere.blogspot.in director| Chandra International | Jaipur| facebook.com/chandrainternational Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission
Re: [AI] Apple mack book
I visited the site u gave.Seems I would be able to use it thx a lot On 6/29/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Preeti, The environments are different and you need to get used to the Apple environment. As for difficulty, no but you need to do your own research and read. Pranav -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of preeti gacche Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:27 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book will there be any difficulty in switching fromwindow to i os? i mean is it easy to use because i havent ever used anything other the windows xp. On 6/29/14, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote: Preeti, http://www.applevis.com is one place to go. The key combination command+f5 starts voice over. Pranav -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sunil Sangtani. Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:46 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book hi, though i've havent used the mac book ever, but since am also planning to get one for me, i've managed to gather some info, and so far, what so ever information i got, the mac book is very good in term of accessibility. will getting the same in next 1 or 2 days, then will share my experience. On 6/28/14, preeti gacche preetigac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I want to know about the accessibility of apple mackk book Thanks Preeti Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- checkout my blog- http://www.techbuddyishere.blogspot.in director| Chandra International | Jaipur| facebook.com/chandrainternational Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or
Re: [AI] Supporting documents for time extension in exams
pinky go to w.w.w.ccdisabilities.org,where guildline given by the MSJE.diffrent exam body also gives such facilites.available in websites. Ajit 9905244057 On 6/28/14, pinky gupta pinkygupta0...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, Hi. I am Pinky Gupta pursuing BBA from KSOU. I have asked them for time extension for my exams. Any how they have agreed. For that, I have been asked for the circular/supporting document to submit. If anybody can help me to get such document, it would be helpful for me. thanks and regards Pinky Gupta Mysore Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Supporting documents for time extension in exams
-Original Message- From: pinky gupta Sent: 29/06/2014, 11:58 am To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Supporting documents for time extension in exams dear pinki, there are a circular issued by union ministery of social justice and enpowerment containing provisions of extra time and other fasilities in examination. This applies equaly to all examination authorities. If you want this, i can provide. Dear friends, Hi. I am Pinky Gupta pursuing BBA from KSOU. I have asked them for time extension for my exams. Any how they have agreed. For that, I have been asked for the circular/supporting document to submit. If anybody can help me to get such document, it would be helpful for me. thanks and regards Pinky Gupta Mysore Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
agreed, but, you can't judge age of the person by listening his or her voice. in my opinion marrige is a social arrangement for physical and emotional satisfaction of both the parties. it depends on both the parties, how much they are satisfying each other. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Bhawani bhai, long time! I agree that eye contact is crucial and admit it troubles me too and till date I haven't found any solid solution to it. Eyes are one of the most vital organs and the limitations emanating from the lack of them can't be brushed aside. Acknowledging this, I mentioned only the beauties which we can feel by our other senses, and hope you'll agree that we can appreciate the human voice etc. the little point I'm trying to make here is that if we have certain limitations, it doesn't mean that we rust away our other capabilities in disuse. Do you agree? I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE, NINETEENTH-CENTURY UNITARIAN CLERGYMAN AND WRITER -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
[AI] kannada audio monthly magazine sanchaya
dear friends, here i am sending kannada audio monthly magazine sanchaya, produced and prepared by mitra jyothi bangalore since long time. in this magazine, you can get lot of information and useful articals. please download and enjoy the magazine. size about 54 mb. http://www.solidfiles.com/d/8389e78eaa/Sanchaya_June_20.rar with best regards m.chandru Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] about list of groups and mailing lists for visually challenged right now.
hello friends. can anybody provide the total list of groups and mailing lists for visually challenged as on today? with best regards. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query
No sir. it announces the cursor position, but it does not say what number of line it is on. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 - Original Message - From: Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query in nvda also, press normal insert + delete placed at the number pad On 6/29/14, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, In JAWS, I would use Insert+Delete to know the line number and the character number of the cursor. But I haven't found such a command in NVDA. If there is one, please let me know. Thanking in advance. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, D R O in bank of baroda, mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query
I want it to announce Line fifteen or something like that. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 - Original Message - From: Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query in nvda also, press normal insert + delete placed at the number pad On 6/29/14, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, In JAWS, I would use Insert+Delete to know the line number and the character number of the cursor. But I haven't found such a command in NVDA. If there is one, please let me know. Thanking in advance. Ashik Hirani 09428855867 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, D R O in bank of baroda, mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Information required from the bankers.
Dear Yishu pal, There is a dedicated group for visually challenged bankers by name visually impaired bankers of India. You can interact with about more than 300 visually challenged bankers from different banks including your own Canara Bank. To subscribe, please send a mail to vib-india+subscr...@googlegroups.com In the return mail, click on the link apply for membership in which you can fill your details like name, location and purpose of joining the bank. You will be subscribed to the group. On 6/29/14, Yishu Pal pyi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi dear access Indians, Many of you are working in various banks. I have joined in Canara bank as PO from 23-06-2014. But still I don't know what will be my job profile after going to the Office/Branch from the date-07-07-2014 onwards. I have asked to my faculties regarding my job profile after the training, but they are telling don't worry. So friends, Kindly let me know regarding my job profile and other things also. Your variable suggestions will help me to survive myself in the bank easily. Thanks and best regards Yishu pal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- G. Vamshi Mobile: +91 9949349497 Skype: gvamshi81 www.retinaindia.org From darkness unto light Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Functional keys r not working with jaws key
Hi access indians, Hope u all r doing good. I am using jaws 15 windows 8.1. Since 1 week my jaws key is not working with function keys. For example insert f1 to f 12. Please guide me how to activate it. Smiling is a part of life. But smiling in all the situations is an art of life. Thanks and regards, M.surya jyothi CCT, SBH. R C puram. Hyderabad, AP. Sent from my iPhone Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
No one can do everything! So just make sure you do what you can do to the best of your ability! There is always place and success for excellence! All the very best! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab Husain Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:36 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Bhawani bhai, long time! I agree that eye contact is crucial and admit it troubles me too and till date I haven't found any solid solution to it. Eyes are one of the most vital organs and the limitations emanating from the lack of them can't be brushed aside. Acknowledging this, I mentioned only the beauties which we can feel by our other senses, and hope you'll agree that we can appreciate the human voice etc. the little point I'm trying to make here is that if we have certain limitations, it doesn't mean that we rust away our other capabilities in disuse. Do you agree? I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE, NINETEENTH-CENTURY UNITARIAN CLERGYMAN AND WRITER -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi
Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Where there is a will, there is always a way! We just have to go look for our wills! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:11 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Practical challenges exist. If we want to move forward, then we have to certainly look for ways around the challenge. As I always believe focus on the solutions rather than being bogged down by the problems. By saying all this I am not brushing aside the huge challenges we face and grapple with on a daily basis. But then... -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 20:38 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners I agree with you there george. There is always a way forward. All of us are living examples. The point here being that practical aspects sometimes loom larger over stratergies. I am an eternal optimist where associations and friendships are concerned. I work in an entirely visually dominated world and hence have seen acceptance and dismissals equally. However, these are totally relative situations and one man's meat is another man's poison.. Good luck to all who manage with whatever works for them. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:39 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI]my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that lack of sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in beating the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option. Complaining/cribbing gets us no where. I personally have a number of very close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into count. Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate table, eye contact can play a critical role. I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't matter, because it does. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Even sighted persons get cheeted after they look and see! So that should not be a problem! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:13 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners sir, how can a blind person judge the age of any unknown person sitting in front of him. a blind person can not feel the expression of face of the person. hence, we can not judge that he or she is true or false. many blind person have cheated in such type of communications. my opinion is if any one wish to marry with a sighted person, he or she should have a proper reference of their close friends or relatives. same should be applied in case of blind. - Original Message - From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners 1. Physical attributes are like the opening batsmen. They take care of the shine. Some times they give you a good start. 2. But then the relationships are built on multiple factors. Common interests, love, care/share, give and take, contribution/participation. Physicality plays a very insignificant part. 3. Further to sustain a relationship, we also must grow as a person and allow our partner also to grow so that our friendship evolves and solidifies. We also need take on responsibility and play our role in the family Well I have tried to capture some factors, there could be more. George -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing
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Well said George! I still have to chase away admirers from the opposite sex even at my age... I mean from both the blind world as well as from the sighted world! You know what I mean? And mind you... I am not beautiful at all! Just plane average looking! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:39 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that lack of sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in beating the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option. Complaining/cribbing gets us no where. I personally have a number of very close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into count. Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate table, eye contact can play a critical role. I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't matter, because it does. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring
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Well said George! Fusion is one such platform that I am trying hard to get going! People need to come and here is the invite for the next one.. Please be there on 3rd August Sunday at 2 pm. At the India International Center Anexe Lecture room 2. We will be talking about this subject. Please bring along as many friends / relatives from both the disabled and the non disabled community! In case anyone is interested in attending, please drop me a line of confirmation on my personal email i.e. : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Or call me on : 91 9871701646 Let us make an effort to widen our social circle! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:23 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners I think Payal, the first step is to widen our social circle and begin engaging with non blind people. We need to be patient and work on our own charm/personality factor. There is no ready formula but something that has worked for me is my smile, sense of humour and interest /concern for others. If we are self absorbed and inward looking all the time then we might not cover much ground. Having said all this, we all need to be patient and wait for the the right person to come along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: 29 June 2014 18:37 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from interacting and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking outside is a different story. There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It is that first time we are talking of here. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Adding to this, I wish to say that we need to do something to ourselves that our partners feel a sense of pride when they walk along with us! And not feel embarrassed to be seen with us just because we are blind! I have a friend who is so crazy after George, calls him Sunil Gaveskar, and is after me to get her together with him! She is sighted... George, don't get big headed just because of this! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways of overcoming the challenges. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of pooja Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicality's. still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person. -- From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we
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Pooja, you are absolutely correct! But, if you are good, you are just good! Every marriage, sighted partner or blind partner has to be nurtured and taken care of... it is like bringing up a delicate flowering plant! Very few people actually can over come their own egos and work towards a happy and successful marriage! Most people sighted or not, live jtogether just because now they are married and they just have to live together! Therefore, just dont worry, we just have to learn and solve challenges in marriages as they come along! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of pooja Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:57 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicality's. still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person. -- From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them.
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Most important point rased here. if a sight spouse lives with no eye contact to his/her blind partner, He/she would be lacking some important aspect of life. and he/she may fulfill his/her desire to some other sighted counterparts. -- From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:22 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!? Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others? On 6/27/14, pooja poojamittal8...@gmail.com wrote: there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case. I think in arrange marriages we can't even think to marry a sighted of equal status. as far as love marriages are concern, the success ratio is declining rapidly in case of both sighted partners also. I think feelings doesn't last long in tough ground realities. if you can afford the resources to compensate your blindness, then it can work. one tough
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I am happy to have a coffee! No big head only good company! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: 30 June 2014 10:37 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Adding to this, I wish to say that we need to do something to ourselves that our partners feel a sense of pride when they walk along with us! And not feel embarrassed to be seen with us just because we are blind! I have a friend who is so crazy after George, calls him Sunil Gaveskar, and is after me to get her together with him! She is sighted... George, don't get big headed just because of this! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways of overcoming the challenges. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of pooja Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicality's. still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person. -- From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To:
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
The idea is that a sighted person should be there dying to make your acquaintance and running after you to get to know you! You can developed that kind of a personality, I can teach it, but it is very hard and constant work for us blind people! Then the trick is to maintain the same throughout the relationship, in fact, grow in that direction... you need your partner to keep wanting to be with you all along! We in India mostly only consentrate on hooking our partners and then once we are successful at that, we just let go of all our hard work. That is where the trouble starts! It is an all round on going thing. As time passes, the work gets tougher; but if you want to keep your relationship fresh and glowing and happy, you have to pledge to hardwork at all fronts! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:37 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from interacting and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking outside is a different story. There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It is that first time we are talking of here. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good looks is only the beginning of being attraction and if we do not have the inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone
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Of course it does matter... I mean our disability! But, as George very rightly said... we need to fill in the gap with other attributes! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:28 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into count. Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate table, eye contact can play a critical role. I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't matter, because it does. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do
Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Eye contact can be replaced with other signals which we can teach our life partners! And if they are intelligent enough, they will derive these other methords themselves... like squeezing your hand, gently nudging you subtly, making a coded sound which both of you understand and things like this! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of TS Negi Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:16 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Most important point rased here. if a sight spouse lives with no eye contact to his/her blind partner, He/she would be lacking some important aspect of life. and he/she may fulfill his/her desire to some other sighted counterparts. -- From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:22 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's beauteousness. - Original Message - From: Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised. We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear, frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair. How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness. A gent knows how to make his woman happy! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Pooha I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours. But when they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs. They retort back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
OK will get you guys together one of these days! See, here the oldies are still up and about... so you all youngsters should learn from George sir! I think George you may like to partner with me and maybe think of some other ideas to get our Fusion meet on 3rd August relationship talk become more valuable for both men and women? Let us try? I think this a very important subject which gets very often swept under the carpet? Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:46 AM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners I am happy to have a coffee! No big head only good company! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: 30 June 2014 10:37 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Adding to this, I wish to say that we need to do something to ourselves that our partners feel a sense of pride when they walk along with us! And not feel embarrassed to be seen with us just because we are blind! I have a friend who is so crazy after George, calls him Sunil Gaveskar, and is after me to get her together with him! She is sighted... George, don't get big headed just because of this! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways of overcoming the challenges. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of pooja Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicality's. still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person. -- From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities. If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If
Re: [AI] I have been admitted to Stanford Business School
Congratulations. It is indeed an achievement. Look forward to your becoming a CEO of some big Corporate house. Keep in touch. With love regards On Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:38 PM, Apoorv Kulkarni apoorvkulka...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, It gives me great pleasure in informing you all that I have been admitted to the Stanford Graduate School of Business for MBA. My term begins in September 2014, and I will be leaving for USA in second half of August. I feel fortunate to have been offered a spot at this prestigious school, and must thank my parents, teachers and all my guides from the AI community for their support. Thank you all for all your help, support and mentorship Warm regards, Apoorv Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Functional keys r not working with jaws key
do make sure that witch keyboard layout you are using from the jaws settings menu. if its laptop layout, the capslock key works as jaws key. On 6/30/14, Suryajyothimetlapalli metlapallisuryajyo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi access indians, Hope u all r doing good. I am using jaws 15 windows 8.1. Since 1 week my jaws key is not working with function keys. For example insert f1 to f 12. Please guide me how to activate it. Smiling is a part of life. But smiling in all the situations is an art of life. Thanks and regards, M.surya jyothi CCT, SBH. R C puram. Hyderabad, AP. Sent from my iPhone Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- checkout my blog- http://www.techbuddyishere.blogspot.in director| Chandra International | Jaipur| facebook.com/chandrainternational Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Sure! Let us start talking! Everything begins with talking for me, not eye contact! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: 30 June 2014 11:02 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners OK will get you guys together one of these days! See, here the oldies are still up and about... so you all youngsters should learn from George sir! I think George you may like to partner with me and maybe think of some other ideas to get our Fusion meet on 3rd August relationship talk become more valuable for both men and women? Let us try? I think this a very important subject which gets very often swept under the carpet? Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:46 AM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners I am happy to have a coffee! No big head only good company! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: 30 June 2014 10:37 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Adding to this, I wish to say that we need to do something to ourselves that our partners feel a sense of pride when they walk along with us! And not feel embarrassed to be seen with us just because we are blind! I have a friend who is so crazy after George, calls him Sunil Gaveskar, and is after me to get her together with him! She is sighted... George, don't get big headed just because of this! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways of overcoming the challenges. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of pooja Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicality's. still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person. -- From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and