Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

[Him Prasad Gautam]

Hi Amiyo Biswas,
In which application the word Bengali is spoken before pronouncing the
Bengali Character?
If it is encountered in all applications including typing, then it is
an setting issue.
Please check the voice setting in nvda menu-preference sub menu.
If it is only in some web pages then this issue should be address in
that particular web pages but neither nvda nor espeak.
Regarding the alien sounds of Bengali letters, then it is espeak
issue. Never the less it is nvda issue.


On 11/30/15, Rahul Kelapure  wrote:
> True.
>
> But what do you suggest one should do in order to get better results?
> Are there some aulternatives available in order to get a better
> quality speech?
> I also feel, non-liking of the voice of the TTS is a major reason why
> I also did not venture for NVDA especially when I do want to use its
> so many great features.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On 11/27/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
>> Hello Nasrullah Shahwani
>>
>> NVDA is a screen reader, Urdu language would come under synthesizer
>> development. There is work going on for eSpeak development for Indian
>> languages, I will request my colleague to elaborate the status about it.
>>
>> NVDA India team can fix issues that prevent a synthesizers to work
>> properly
>> with NVDA. But we cannot fix inefficient and badly designed synthesizers.
>>
>> I understand that for end users NVDA and synthesizers are the same, but in
>> software like many things in life, there are some constraints that our
>> often
>> beyond our control.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Nasrullah Shahwani
>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:39 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4
>>
>> h
>> elø sir are you working on urdu langvije ? Please reply thanks
>>
>> On 11/26/15, pawan jain  wrote:
>>> On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
 Sure we can, our mandate is to enable NVDA for Employment, education and
 Indian Languages.

 But we cannot do much without knowing exactly what is not working, and
 we
 also need support from the organizations that has implemented SAP
 solution
 and SAP labs.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Tilakprasad Joshi
 Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:40 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

 Could you take up accessibility issue with SAP so that NVDA can become
 accessible with SAP which will be really beneficial.

 Warm Regards,
 Tilak.

 On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
> Hi Access Indians,
>
>
>
> As you know, The NVDA India team primarily works on requirements raised
> in
> India. We are eager to hear from the users of NVDA about challenges
> that
> they face while using NVDA. We prioritize the feature requests
> according
 to
> number of requests for any features or its impact on employability and
> education. Anything that will make NVDA work better with Indian
> languages
> is
> also our top priority as these issues never get priority by  non-Indian
> developers. Thus, if there are any issues that you would like to
> report,
> please report them on NVDA issue tracker on github
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues and forward the ticket number
> and
> description to sumandog...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> Sean Randall has written a nice blog on LinkedIn about the features:
 NVDASR
> doesn't just have new features, it adds them beautifully
>
 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvdasr-doesnt-just-have-new-features-adds-the
> m-sean-randall
>
>
>
> A brief description of these features follows:
>
>
>
> Support of protected excel sheets: in a protected sheet if a cell
 selection
> is disabled, NVDA was not able to read the content in that cell. NVDA
 users
> can now navigate to those cells using browse mode. During the browse
> mode,
> NVDA would also announce whether a cell is unlocked so that users can
 press
> enter to move the focus to that cell.
>
>
>
> Listing and renaming of Microsoft Excel sheets: while working with
> large
> number of sheets, users often need a way to list all the sheets. So we
 have
> added an option to list sheets in elements list dialog. Users can also
> change the name of sheets in this list with f2 command. This command is
> added because 

Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board

[Him Prasad Gautam]

Hi,
You are always welcome.
Please  read the help file first.
after installation, It can be found at:
In 32 bit windows:
c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi\HelpInEnglish.rtf
In 64 bit windows:
c:\programFiles (x86)\Varnamala\Hindi\HelpInEnglish.rtf
 read the file with say all symbol mode.
Pls feel free to ask if unclear.


On 11/30/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
> Hi Him,
> This is the key board what I would be most comfortable with. Let me
> download it and install it and then I will disturb you for further
> help.
> Regards
> Naresh
>
> On 11/30/15, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:
>> Hi again,
>> while reading the help file of Varnamala, please set your jaws in say
>> all symbol mode. If it is in some or most mode; many symbols  that are
>> found at keyboard will not be spoken and you may be confused what to
>> press to type.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/15, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:
>>> hi Naresh,
>>> First of all, let you be clear.
>>> A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following
>>> characteristics.
>>> 1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of
>>> the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a
>>> conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when
>>> you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated
>>> after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press
>>> a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when
>>> you press
>>>   the two keys c and h?
>>>  And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is
>>> confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based
>>> typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
>>> 2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which
>>> generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the
>>> keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
>>> 3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which
>>> one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the
>>> keyboard.
>>> Or,
>>> One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is
>>> no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
>>> I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
>>> It is specially design for those person who has the following
>>> characteristics.
>>> 1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
>>> 2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
>>> 3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
>>> I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic
>>> based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are
>>> using it.
>>> you can download it from:
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.exe?dl=0
>>>
>>> you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
>>> since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you
>>> must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
>>> after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
>>> there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
>>> Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys
>>> assigned for it is presented there.
>>> briefly speaking, it has;
>>> k for क, shift k for ख
>>> g for ग, shift g for घ
>>> c for च, shift C for छ
>>> j for  ज, shift j for झ
>>> n for न, shift n for ण
>>> t for त, shift t for थ
>>> p for प, shift p for फ
>>> b for ब, shift b for भ
>>> s for स, shift s for श
>>>  etc. etc.  are assigned.
>>> Hope it helps you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
 Hi Him,
 I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally I
 find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can
 explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that I
 have explained what you wanted to know.
 Best
 Naresh

 On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:
> hi,
> Are you Visually impaired or sited?
> If VI, then your wish of typing in roman and getting
>  in Hindi does not suit your condition.  This approach leads you
> always in problem. I will elaborate the possible encounter. Let you
> clear your condition. I can help you in either condition.
>
> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
>> Dear list,
>> I wish to learn Hindi typing with phonetic keyboard which means if I
>> type the spellings in Roman it gets typed  in Hindi. I would be really
>> grateful to one who can tell me step-by-step to start with. I am not
>> very good with technology but online guidance would definitely help.
>> Regards
>> Naresh
>>
>> --
>> Naresh Kumar
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of History
>> Kamala Nehru College
>> (University of Delhi)

Re: [AI] e-mail lists for Mac OS X accessibility

[mukesh jain]

dear bhavya,
don't know the reason  for denial as there is nothing sort of any
restrictions to join the group. i will surely check it out with the
owners as you suggested. before doing the same, may i please request
you to forward the denial message to my personal id or the reply
message in response to your subscription request as it might have
contained the message id followed by the link to confirm your
subscription request this will enable me to communicate more
specifically with them.
  thanks,

On 11/29/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Mukesh Sir,
> This is rather ridiculous. My joining request was unfortunately
> denied... Could you possibly write to the Mac Visionaries group
> moderator about the reason for my joining denial? Please write to the
> group moderator if possible, and CC me, and let us continue further
> conversation offlist, if you don't mind.
> Absolutely strange for denying me from joining the group for no
> apparent reason... :D grin
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 11/29/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> Mukesh Sir,
>> I have successfully sent a subscription request and confirmed having
>> actually myself sent it. Now, it just awaits approval from the
>> moderators of that group...
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 11/28/15, mukesh jain  wrote:
>>> dear bhavya,
>>> yes, you are absolutely right. if one decides to grab the useful
>>> resources, nothing is difficult and everything is manageable. i
>>> personally really  been enjoying the eyes free group, though sometimes
>>> useless topics do come and most of the times i surely get to learn and
>>> share the stuff. so if you are interested to join the mac visionaries
>>> group, then send the mail to:
>>>  macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>
>>> i have subscribed via  this method long ago so i guess it should work
>>> even now. if not, then do let me know.
>>> thanks and see you there with your informative mails as like on eyes
>>> free
>>> group,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
 Hi,

 Aravind Sir,
 I searched for 'voice over easy' on Google and the first and most
 relevant search result that came up was http://www.voiceover-easy.net/
 However, it does not seem to have any material for VoiceOver on Mac OS
 X, simply iOS. Therefore, this website seems out of scope of my
 present requirements. All the same, I will refer to this if I ever
 happen to try iOS in the future, so thanks for that again.

 Mukesh Sir,
 Traffic is not of matter to me, because I can manage my e-mails and
 tolerate most of the unimportant chatter well enough. :) smiles
 Anyways, I am sure that the Eyes Free Google Group would be hard to
 leave behind, when it comes to traffic. :D grin
 On a serious note, could you provide subscription information for this
 Mac Visionary list? I would be interested to join.

 Thanks.

 On 11/28/15, mukesh jain  wrote:
> hello,
> i have subscribed to mac visionaries group and it's quite informative
> though it's on high traffic.
> thanks,
>
>
> On 11/28/15, Aravind R  wrote:
>> search for "voice over easy" in google and get first result. it has
>> great tutorials on using apple products using voice over
>>
>> On 11/27/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> Having temporarily got a Macbook to play around a bit with, I would
>>> like to join some official Mac OS X support groups Apple might have
>>> created, or the community may have.
>>> The only point of reference I have at present is Apple Vis
>>> (www.applevis.com).
>>> I was aware that there was an Apple Vis mailing list in existence
>>> too,
>>> but was that not for i OS accessibility related discussion, or does
>>> that encompass Mac OS X accessibility topics too?
>>> If you are aware of any Mac OS X support e-mail lists I should
>>> subscribe, please let me know their joining/subscription procedural
>>> details.
>>> Anyways, I will be perusing through the Apple Vis website now to see
>>> what I can learn from it...
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Warm Regards
>>> Bhavya Shah
>>> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
>>> reader for Microsoft Windows
>>> To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/
>>> Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop
>>> 5.0.2
>>> Reach me through the following means:
>>> Mobile: +91 7506221750
>>> E-mail id: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
>>> Skype id : bhavya.09
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
>>> accessibility
>>> of
>>> mobile phones / Tabs on:
>>> 

Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

[Him Prasad Gautam]

Hi Renuka,
can you send the improperly pronounced words in Malayalam letters in a
word file and its correct pronunciation in audio file. If so, I may
look the issue.


On 11/30/15, li...@srinivasu.org  wrote:
> Rahul,
> In my opinion disliking the voice of TTS is an issue st user level and not
> something that NV Access could address.
>
> My experience is they I have been using for about 5 years now and when I
> tried JAWS in the recent past for a project, I found JAWS to be less
> responsive than NVDA. Of course, I use NVDA with eSpeak. But I don't really
> complain about JAWS but my mindset.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>
>> On 30-Nov-2015, at 11:09, Rahul Kelapure  wrote:
>>
>> True.
>>
>> But what do you suggest one should do in order to get better results?
>> Are there some aulternatives available in order to get a better
>> quality speech?
>> I also feel, non-liking of the voice of the TTS is a major reason why
>> I also did not venture for NVDA especially when I do want to use its
>> so many great features.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>> On 11/27/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
>>> Hello Nasrullah Shahwani
>>>
>>> NVDA is a screen reader, Urdu language would come under synthesizer
>>> development. There is work going on for eSpeak development for Indian
>>> languages, I will request my colleague to elaborate the status about it.
>>>
>>> NVDA India team can fix issues that prevent a synthesizers to work
>>> properly
>>> with NVDA. But we cannot fix inefficient and badly designed synthesizers.
>>>
>>> I understand that for end users NVDA and synthesizers are the same, but
>>> in
>>> software like many things in life, there are some constraints that our
>>> often
>>> beyond our control.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Nasrullah Shahwani
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:39 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4
>>>
>>> h
>>> elø sir are you working on urdu langvije ? Please reply thanks
>>>
 On 11/26/15, pawan jain  wrote:
> On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
> Sure we can, our mandate is to enable NVDA for Employment, education
> and
> Indian Languages.
>
> But we cannot do much without knowing exactly what is not working, and
> we
> also need support from the organizations that has implemented SAP
> solution
> and SAP labs.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> Of Tilakprasad Joshi
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:40 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4
>
> Could you take up accessibility issue with SAP so that NVDA can become
> accessible with SAP which will be really beneficial.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Tilak.
>
>> On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
>> Hi Access Indians,
>>
>>
>>
>> As you know, The NVDA India team primarily works on requirements
>> raised
>> in
>> India. We are eager to hear from the users of NVDA about challenges
>> that
>> they face while using NVDA. We prioritize the feature requests
>> according
> to
>> number of requests for any features or its impact on employability and
>> education. Anything that will make NVDA work better with Indian
>> languages
>> is
>> also our top priority as these issues never get priority by
>> non-Indian
>> developers. Thus, if there are any issues that you would like to
>> report,
>> please report them on NVDA issue tracker on github
>> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues and forward the ticket number
>> and
>> description to sumandog...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Sean Randall has written a nice blog on LinkedIn about the features:
> NVDASR
>> doesn't just have new features, it adds them beautifully
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvdasr-doesnt-just-have-new-features-adds-the
>> m-sean-randall
>>
>>
>>
>> A brief description of these features follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> Support of protected excel sheets: in a protected sheet if a cell
> selection
>> is disabled, NVDA was not able to read the content in that cell. NVDA
> users
>> can now navigate to those cells using browse mode. During the browse
>> mode,
>> NVDA would also announce whether a cell is unlocked so that users can
> press
>> enter to move the focus to that 

Re: [AI] Pune: Visually-impaired protest against govt disregarding GR

[akshun mahajan]

this is very unfortunate and very painful to read it.

On 11/30/15, Surya Prakash  wrote:
> Strange! and worrying. It is a general perception that blind people are
> benefitted by more qualified writers.
>
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
> On November 30, 2015 11:58:18 AM avinash shahi 
> wrote:
>
>> Class forth children writing blind candidates exams? please stop
>> playing with our future. Please please.
>> http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/visually-impaired-protest-against-govt-disregarding-gr-on-writers/
>>
>>
>>
>> In the wake of the Maharashtra government contemplating allowing adult
>> writers for differently abled children as well as setting up a
>> writers’ bureau for qualified writers, a group of activists working
>> for the visually impaired are peeved that the government is not
>> following the resolution for “writers” for adults appearing for state
>> government jobs.
>>
>> The government resolution (GR) issued on March 28 last year states
>> that “writers” for those appearing for state government jobs should be
>> introduced to the candidate a day before and the candidate has to
>> agree to said writer, however, the state government has not been
>> following the GR.
>>
>> This was pointed out by a group of activists working for the visually
>> impaired in the city Sunday, when 19 visually impaired candidates who
>> appeared for an examination for the post of peon in the Pune Zilla
>> Parishad were provided writers from the fourth class from the local
>> residential school for tribal children. “Even though there is a GR
>> mentioning all the rules, one of which is that the candidate should be
>> introduced to the writer a day earlier, it is only on paper. There is
>> a clear violation to the disadvantage of the candidate,” said activist
>> Ramchandra Rangolle, who’s two friends appeared for the exam.
>>
>> He said while the Persons with Disabilities Act 1995 mentions a three
>> per cent recruitment in state and central government offices, acts
>> such as these only hamper the efforts. The candidates who appeared for
>> the Sunday exam said the writers were unable to help them out and many
>> of them could not even write properly.
>>
>> “The writer has to be chosen to suit to the exam. They cannot give us
>> small kids to help us,” said a candidate under condition of anonymity.
>> The Zilla Parishad official however said that it was practically
>> impossible to have the candidates introduced a day in advance as they
>> were busy arranging exams for vacancies for various posts. “We knew
>> the requirement and we provided for it at the time of examination. For
>> the Sunday exam, the minimum qualification was class four and so we
>> have students from class four to help the candidates,” explained the
>> official.
>>
>> There were over 16,000 candidates appearing for 40 posts at the Zilla
>> Parishad Sunday. There were 35 centres in the city for the exam.
>> Recently, due to the hue and cry over “writers” for the differently
>> abled, the government was contemplating adult writers as there are a
>> lot of issues faced by the visually impaired. Rangolle points out that
>> for state government exams, they cannot give school children as
>> writers even if the minimum pass requirement is class four. “My friend
>> could hardly explain to the writer and they could not understand and
>> write well,” he says.
>>
>> While a writers’ bureau too has been recommended, the government is
>> also contemplating prompters for practical exams for schools. “While
>> government is focusing on school exams, the same needs to be done for
>> state government exams,” said a candidate. The amended act issued last
>> year clearly mentions the rules for writers for such examinations.
>> Activists feel that if the government is providing writers for such
>> examinations, which means the local bodies, they should give adults
>> for these and not children.
>>
>> Of the 40 posts for peons, activists are hoping that they should get
>> some of the candidates selected for the posts but with such “writers”
>> they feel they stand less hope as they are not sure the writers were
>> able to mark the answers correctly. Even though the exam had objective
>> questions with four options, it is doubtful whether they were able to
>> do the needful, they said.
>>
>> What the rules say:
>>
>> * The local body or the candidate can get the writer of his/her choice
>>
>> * The candidate has to make a mention whether he/she needs a writer
>>
>> * State government should select the writer according to the needs of
>> the exam according to the panel decided
>>
>> * The panel should decide the writers according to the area or field
>>
>> * The candidate should be able to meet the writer one day in advance to
>> discuss
>>
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
>>
>>
>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia 

Re: [AI] new handicap quota in trains

[Jana Jaya]

Dear Sazid,Thanks for the new information. Just want to clarify.1. U mean to 
say that there would be a maximum of four  berth quota for Handicapped.. Is 
it.2. Do u have a official article or circular regarding this.
Thanks.Janardan. 


On Sunday, 29 November 2015 12:07 AM, sazid shaik 
 wrote:
 

 Dear list,

  As per extant instructions, handicapped quota of 2 berths in sleeper
class (one lower and one middle) is earmarked for physically
handicapped persons travelling on concession.

There are two types of handicapped persons who can book berth under
this quota; one for whom it is compulsory to travel along with escort
and the second for whom it is optional. Recently instances were
brought to the notice of this office where the handicapped persons for
whom it is optional to take an escort were not allowed to book single
berth against this quota by some Railways since the second berth will
go vacant as middle berth cannot be allotted to physically handicapped
persons. This issue has now been examined by the Ministry of Railways
and further rationalization has been done to ensure optimum allotment
and utilization of handicapped quota. The revised decisions taken are
given as under : -

(i) There will be two types of handicapped quota of two berths each
(one lower and one middle) in the same cabin; one for physically
handicapped persons who can utilize concession only when accompanied
by an escort and the second for those handicapped persons for whom it
is optional to take an escort with them.

(ii) As for the former category it is compulsory to be accompanied by
an escort, these berths can be booked by such category of handicapped
persons booking tickets on concession on first come first serve basis.

(iii) For the later, where it is optional to be accompanied by an
escort, if the first handicapped person intends to book berth along
with escort, both the berths will be booked. However if the first
handicapped person books without escort, the second berth will not be
booked under handicapped quota and will be released to RAC/waitlisted
passengers at the time of preparation of reservation charts.

(iv) Further, at the time of preparation of reservation charts, the
unutilized lower berths under this quota can be released to physically
handicapped passenger (of either category who were kept in general
waiting list due to exhaustion of their quota), single senior citizen
travelling alone on priority and thereafter to waitlisted passengers
as per priority. In case a single berth i.e. middle berth is left
vacant in this quota of second category it will be released to
RAC/waitlisted passengers.

(v) It has also been decided that whenever a physically handicapped
person books ticket on concession and if no berth is available in
handicapped quota, the system will automatically try to allot the
lower berth to him/her and middle berth to escort subject to
availability of same at the time of booking.

These new provisions will be effective by 22nd December, 2015.

regards,
sazid



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Re: [AI] Pune: Visually-impaired protest against govt disregarding GR

[Surya Prakash]

Strange! and worrying. It is a general perception that blind people are 
benefitted by more qualified writers.


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On November 30, 2015 11:58:18 AM avinash shahi  
wrote:



Class forth children writing blind candidates exams? please stop
playing with our future. Please please.
http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/visually-impaired-protest-against-govt-disregarding-gr-on-writers/



In the wake of the Maharashtra government contemplating allowing adult
writers for differently abled children as well as setting up a
writers’ bureau for qualified writers, a group of activists working
for the visually impaired are peeved that the government is not
following the resolution for “writers” for adults appearing for state
government jobs.

The government resolution (GR) issued on March 28 last year states
that “writers” for those appearing for state government jobs should be
introduced to the candidate a day before and the candidate has to
agree to said writer, however, the state government has not been
following the GR.

This was pointed out by a group of activists working for the visually
impaired in the city Sunday, when 19 visually impaired candidates who
appeared for an examination for the post of peon in the Pune Zilla
Parishad were provided writers from the fourth class from the local
residential school for tribal children. “Even though there is a GR
mentioning all the rules, one of which is that the candidate should be
introduced to the writer a day earlier, it is only on paper. There is
a clear violation to the disadvantage of the candidate,” said activist
Ramchandra Rangolle, who’s two friends appeared for the exam.

He said while the Persons with Disabilities Act 1995 mentions a three
per cent recruitment in state and central government offices, acts
such as these only hamper the efforts. The candidates who appeared for
the Sunday exam said the writers were unable to help them out and many
of them could not even write properly.

“The writer has to be chosen to suit to the exam. They cannot give us
small kids to help us,” said a candidate under condition of anonymity.
The Zilla Parishad official however said that it was practically
impossible to have the candidates introduced a day in advance as they
were busy arranging exams for vacancies for various posts. “We knew
the requirement and we provided for it at the time of examination. For
the Sunday exam, the minimum qualification was class four and so we
have students from class four to help the candidates,” explained the
official.

There were over 16,000 candidates appearing for 40 posts at the Zilla
Parishad Sunday. There were 35 centres in the city for the exam.
Recently, due to the hue and cry over “writers” for the differently
abled, the government was contemplating adult writers as there are a
lot of issues faced by the visually impaired. Rangolle points out that
for state government exams, they cannot give school children as
writers even if the minimum pass requirement is class four. “My friend
could hardly explain to the writer and they could not understand and
write well,” he says.

While a writers’ bureau too has been recommended, the government is
also contemplating prompters for practical exams for schools. “While
government is focusing on school exams, the same needs to be done for
state government exams,” said a candidate. The amended act issued last
year clearly mentions the rules for writers for such examinations.
Activists feel that if the government is providing writers for such
examinations, which means the local bodies, they should give adults
for these and not children.

Of the 40 posts for peons, activists are hoping that they should get
some of the candidates selected for the posts but with such “writers”
they feel they stand less hope as they are not sure the writers were
able to mark the answers correctly. Even though the exam had objective
questions with four options, it is doubtful whether they were able to
do the needful, they said.

What the rules say:

* The local body or the candidate can get the writer of his/her choice

* The candidate has to make a mention whether he/she needs a writer

* State government should select the writer according to the needs of
the exam according to the panel decided

* The panel should decide the writers according to the area or field

* The candidate should be able to meet the writer one day in advance to discuss


--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

[Amiyo Biswas]

No, it's not saying Bengali with every character in ms word. If I find it 
again, I shall report it. Maybe the probloem has been solved.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cel: 9433464329
- Original Message - 
From: "Him Prasad Gautam" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4



Hi Amiyo Biswas,
In which application the word Bengali is spoken before pronouncing the
Bengali Character?
If it is encountered in all applications including typing, then it is
an setting issue.
Please check the voice setting in nvda menu-preference sub menu.
If it is only in some web pages then this issue should be address in
that particular web pages but neither nvda nor espeak.
Regarding the alien sounds of Bengali letters, then it is espeak
issue. Never the less it is nvda issue.


On 11/30/15, Rahul Kelapure  wrote:

True.

But what do you suggest one should do in order to get better results?
Are there some aulternatives available in order to get a better
quality speech?
I also feel, non-liking of the voice of the TTS is a major reason why
I also did not venture for NVDA especially when I do want to use its
so many great features.

Thank you.

On 11/27/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:

Hello Nasrullah Shahwani

NVDA is a screen reader, Urdu language would come under synthesizer
development. There is work going on for eSpeak development for Indian
languages, I will request my colleague to elaborate the status about it.

NVDA India team can fix issues that prevent a synthesizers to work
properly
with NVDA. But we cannot fix inefficient and badly designed 
synthesizers.


I understand that for end users NVDA and synthesizers are the same, but 
in

software like many things in life, there are some constraints that our
often
beyond our control.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Nasrullah Shahwani
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:39 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

h
elø sir are you working on urdu langvije ? Please reply thanks

On 11/26/15, pawan jain  wrote:

On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
Sure we can, our mandate is to enable NVDA for Employment, education 
and

Indian Languages.

But we cannot do much without knowing exactly what is not working, and
we
also need support from the organizations that has implemented SAP
solution
and SAP labs.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Tilakprasad Joshi
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:40 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 
2015.4


Could you take up accessibility issue with SAP so that NVDA can become
accessible with SAP which will be really beneficial.

Warm Regards,
Tilak.

On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:

Hi Access Indians,



As you know, The NVDA India team primarily works on requirements 
raised

in
India. We are eager to hear from the users of NVDA about challenges
that
they face while using NVDA. We prioritize the feature requests
according

to
number of requests for any features or its impact on employability 
and

education. Anything that will make NVDA work better with Indian
languages
is
also our top priority as these issues never get priority by 
non-Indian

developers. Thus, if there are any issues that you would like to
report,
please report them on NVDA issue tracker on github
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues and forward the ticket number
and
description to sumandog...@gmail.com



Sean Randall has written a nice blog on LinkedIn about the features:

NVDASR

doesn't just have new features, it adds them beautifully


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvdasr-doesnt-just-have-new-features-adds-the

m-sean-randall



A brief description of these features follows:



Support of protected excel sheets: in a protected sheet if a cell

selection

is disabled, NVDA was not able to read the content in that cell. NVDA

users

can now navigate to those cells using browse mode. During the browse
mode,
NVDA would also announce whether a cell is unlocked so that users can

press

enter to move the focus to that cell.



Listing and renaming of Microsoft Excel sheets: while working with
large
number of sheets, users often need a way to list all the sheets. So 
we

have
added an option to list sheets in elements list dialog. Users can 
also
change the name of sheets in this list with f2 command. This command 
is

added because NVDA 

[AI] get government's attention to address allotment of scribs to visually challenged persons regarding

[SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI]

On 11/30/15, akshun mahajan  wrote:
> this is very unfortunate and very painful to read it.
>
> On 11/30/15, Surya Prakash  wrote:
>> Strange! and worrying. It is a general perception that blind people are
>> benefitted by more qualified writers.
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> On November 30, 2015 11:58:18 AM avinash shahi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Class forth children writing blind candidates exams? please stop
>>> playing with our future. Please please.
>>> http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/visually-impaired-protest-against-govt-disregarding-gr-on-writers/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the wake of the Maharashtra government contemplating allowing adult
>>> writers for differently abled children as well as setting up a
>>> writers’ bureau for qualified writers, a group of activists working
>>> for the visually impaired are peeved that the government is not
>>> following the resolution for “writers” for adults appearing for state
>>> government jobs.
>>>
>>> The government resolution (GR) issued on March 28 last year states
>>> that “writers” for those appearing for state government jobs should be
>>> introduced to the candidate a day before and the candidate has to
>>> agree to said writer, however, the state government has not been
>>> following the GR.
>>>
>>> This was pointed out by a group of activists working for the visually
>>> impaired in the city Sunday, when 19 visually impaired candidates who
>>> appeared for an examination for the post of peon in the Pune Zilla
>>> Parishad were provided writers from the fourth class from the local
>>> residential school for tribal children. “Even though there is a GR
>>> mentioning all the rules, one of which is that the candidate should be
>>> introduced to the writer a day earlier, it is only on paper. There is
>>> a clear violation to the disadvantage of the candidate,” said activist
>>> Ramchandra Rangolle, who’s two friends appeared for the exam.
>>>
>>> He said while the Persons with Disabilities Act 1995 mentions a three
>>> per cent recruitment in state and central government offices, acts
>>> such as these only hamper the efforts. The candidates who appeared for
>>> the Sunday exam said the writers were unable to help them out and many
>>> of them could not even write properly.
>>>
>>> “The writer has to be chosen to suit to the exam. They cannot give us
>>> small kids to help us,” said a candidate under condition of anonymity.
>>> The Zilla Parishad official however said that it was practically
>>> impossible to have the candidates introduced a day in advance as they
>>> were busy arranging exams for vacancies for various posts. “We knew
>>> the requirement and we provided for it at the time of examination. For
>>> the Sunday exam, the minimum qualification was class four and so we
>>> have students from class four to help the candidates,” explained the
>>> official.
>>>
>>> There were over 16,000 candidates appearing for 40 posts at the Zilla
>>> Parishad Sunday. There were 35 centres in the city for the exam.
>>> Recently, due to the hue and cry over “writers” for the differently
>>> abled, the government was contemplating adult writers as there are a
>>> lot of issues faced by the visually impaired. Rangolle points out that
>>> for state government exams, they cannot give school children as
>>> writers even if the minimum pass requirement is class four. “My friend
>>> could hardly explain to the writer and they could not understand and
>>> write well,” he says.
>>>
>>> While a writers’ bureau too has been recommended, the government is
>>> also contemplating prompters for practical exams for schools. “While
>>> government is focusing on school exams, the same needs to be done for
>>> state government exams,” said a candidate. The amended act issued last
>>> year clearly mentions the rules for writers for such examinations.
>>> Activists feel that if the government is providing writers for such
>>> examinations, which means the local bodies, they should give adults
>>> for these and not children.
>>>
>>> Of the 40 posts for peons, activists are hoping that they should get
>>> some of the candidates selected for the posts but with such “writers”
>>> they feel they stand less hope as they are not sure the writers were
>>> able to mark the answers correctly. Even though the exam had objective
>>> questions with four options, it is doubtful whether they were able to
>>> do the needful, they said.
>>>
>>> What the rules say:
>>>
>>> * The local body or the candidate can get the writer of his/her choice
>>>
>>> * The candidate has to make a mention whether he/she needs a writer
>>>
>>> * State government should select the writer according to the needs of
>>> the exam according to the panel decided
>>>
>>> * The panel should decide the writers according to the area or field
>>>
>>> * The candidate should be able to meet the writer one day 

[AI] Solidarity walk on 6 December from freedom park 10 a.m

[PAULMUDDHA]

 

Dear friends in Bangalore

Snehadeep trust is organizing a solidarity walk from freedom park on Sunday
6 december from 10 a.m to celebrate the international day of disabled.

Whitecanes and caps along with snacs would be provided.

Please join us and make this even a grand success.

For further details

Contact

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[AI] have anyone got response : virtual job fair 7 Oct.

[sucharu]

Dear list members,
Greetings!
Have anybody who participated in virtual job fair held on 7 October, 2015 got 
response from any of the participating companies.
If yes, can you please share the details.
Thanks,
Sucharu 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aravind R
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:47 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] Fwd: [bsftb] India’s first virtual job fair for people with 
disabilities

Dear Friends,

India’s first virtual job fair for people with disabilities is being held 7th 
October 4pm – 9pm.

EnAble India in collaboration with Allegis is conducting this virtual job fair.
Total 40 companies are participating in this virtual job fair.

The openings are in the IT and ITES sector.
Please register yourself by visiting to the below link:
http://bit.ly/1LI7D8c

Open the link “Easy Signup Guide” for step-by-step instruction word document.

One can have the look of companies and vacancies after September 21, 2015.

For any clarifications, call EnAble India on 080 6732 3636 or email 
candidateservi...@enable-india.org

There is an event for visually impaired, this coming Saturday 19th September to 
register for the virtual job fair at Bengaluru. Please call 080 6732 3636 to 
confirm you can come. If you want to register yourself, the website is 
accessible with screen reader. To register, follow the above link.

With regards,
Suresh Kumar M


--
M. Suresh Kumar,
Computer instructor,
EnAble India,
Bangalore.
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E Mail: sures...@gmail.com
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[AI] Games inputs

[Ruchi]

Hello friends, 

I am a mother of a 12 year old visually impaired child. 

I am really keen to make some games for the community which you would really 
love to play by yourself and with each other. 

Wanted to understand, if anyone has any ideas, I could pursue it further. 

Also, what platform would be most preferable. 

Your inputs are valuable. Waiting to hear from you. 

Regards, 
Ruchi 

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

[sanjay]

I learnt Hindi typing with devanagari inscript.  I think, It is built-in 
keyboard in windows.


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From: "Him Prasad Gautam" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board



hi Naresh,
First of all, let you be clear.
A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following
characteristics.
1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of
the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a
conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when
you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated
after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press
a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when
you press
 the two keys c and h?
And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is
confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based
typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which
generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the
keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which
one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the
keyboard.
Or,
One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is
no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
It is specially design for those person who has the following 
characteristics.

1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic
based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are
using it.
you can download it from:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.exe?dl=0

you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you
must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys
assigned for it is presented there.
briefly speaking, it has;
k for क, shift k for ख
g for ग, shift g for घ
c for च, shift C for छ
j for  ज, shift j for झ
n for न, shift n for ण
t for त, shift t for थ
p for प, shift p for फ
b for ब, shift b for भ
s for स, shift s for श
etc. etc.  are assigned.
Hope it helps you.



On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:

Hi Him,
I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally I
find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can
explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that I
have explained what you wanted to know.
Best
Naresh

On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:

hi,
Are you Visually impaired or sited?
If VI, then your wish of typing in roman and getting
 in Hindi does not suit your condition.  This approach leads you
always in problem. I will elaborate the possible encounter. Let you
clear your condition. I can help you in either condition.

On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:

Dear list,
I wish to learn Hindi typing with phonetic keyboard which means if I
type the spellings in Roman it gets typed  in Hindi. I would be really
grateful to one who can tell me step-by-step to start with. I am not
very good with technology but online guidance would definitely help.
Regards
Naresh

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Re: [AI] e-mail lists for Mac OS X accessibility

[Bhavya shah]

Hi,
All sent privately offlist...
Thanks.

On 11/30/15, mukesh jain  wrote:
> dear bhavya,
> don't know the reason  for denial as there is nothing sort of any
> restrictions to join the group. i will surely check it out with the
> owners as you suggested. before doing the same, may i please request
> you to forward the denial message to my personal id or the reply
> message in response to your subscription request as it might have
> contained the message id followed by the link to confirm your
> subscription request this will enable me to communicate more
> specifically with them.
>   thanks,
>
> On 11/29/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Mukesh Sir,
>> This is rather ridiculous. My joining request was unfortunately
>> denied... Could you possibly write to the Mac Visionaries group
>> moderator about the reason for my joining denial? Please write to the
>> group moderator if possible, and CC me, and let us continue further
>> conversation offlist, if you don't mind.
>> Absolutely strange for denying me from joining the group for no
>> apparent reason... :D grin
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 11/29/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> Mukesh Sir,
>>> I have successfully sent a subscription request and confirmed having
>>> actually myself sent it. Now, it just awaits approval from the
>>> moderators of that group...
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 11/28/15, mukesh jain  wrote:
 dear bhavya,
 yes, you are absolutely right. if one decides to grab the useful
 resources, nothing is difficult and everything is manageable. i
 personally really  been enjoying the eyes free group, though sometimes
 useless topics do come and most of the times i surely get to learn and
 share the stuff. so if you are interested to join the mac visionaries
 group, then send the mail to:
  macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com.

 i have subscribed via  this method long ago so i guess it should work
 even now. if not, then do let me know.
 thanks and see you there with your informative mails as like on eyes
 free
 group,


 On 11/28/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Aravind Sir,
> I searched for 'voice over easy' on Google and the first and most
> relevant search result that came up was http://www.voiceover-easy.net/
> However, it does not seem to have any material for VoiceOver on Mac OS
> X, simply iOS. Therefore, this website seems out of scope of my
> present requirements. All the same, I will refer to this if I ever
> happen to try iOS in the future, so thanks for that again.
>
> Mukesh Sir,
> Traffic is not of matter to me, because I can manage my e-mails and
> tolerate most of the unimportant chatter well enough. :) smiles
> Anyways, I am sure that the Eyes Free Google Group would be hard to
> leave behind, when it comes to traffic. :D grin
> On a serious note, could you provide subscription information for this
> Mac Visionary list? I would be interested to join.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 11/28/15, mukesh jain  wrote:
>> hello,
>> i have subscribed to mac visionaries group and it's quite informative
>> though it's on high traffic.
>> thanks,
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/15, Aravind R  wrote:
>>> search for "voice over easy" in google and get first result. it has
>>> great tutorials on using apple products using voice over
>>>
>>> On 11/27/15, Bhavya shah  wrote:
 Dear all,
 Having temporarily got a Macbook to play around a bit with, I would
 like to join some official Mac OS X support groups Apple might have
 created, or the community may have.
 The only point of reference I have at present is Apple Vis
 (www.applevis.com).
 I was aware that there was an Apple Vis mailing list in existence
 too,
 but was that not for i OS accessibility related discussion, or does
 that encompass Mac OS X accessibility topics too?
 If you are aware of any Mac OS X support e-mail lists I should
 subscribe, please let me know their joining/subscription procedural
 details.
 Anyways, I will be perusing through the Apple Vis website now to
 see
 what I can learn from it...
 Thanks.

 --
 Warm Regards
 Bhavya Shah
 Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
 reader for Microsoft Windows
 To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
 http://www.nvaccess.org/
 Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop
 5.0.2
 Reach me through the following means:
 Mobile: +91 7506221750
 

Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board

[Vedprakash]

I have win 7 with office 13.
I am using Jaws17.
I am using Lekha for Hindi.
I downloaded the Set up file from DropBox. But it is not installing.
I copied the screen through virtual viewer. The following error occurs every 
time I try to open the set up file:
Windows Explorer graphic 798 
Windows Explorer is not responding
Windows can check online for a solution. If you restart or close the program, 
you might 
lose information.
graphic 999  Check for a solution and restart the program
graphic 999  Close the program
graphic 999  Wait for the program to respond
graphic 44  Hide problem details
  Additional Hang Signature 7: 82e5bdced32bed3fbca3545e82cf01b0 graphic 192 
Read our privacy statement online:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288=0x0409 graphic 545 If the 
online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement
offline
  C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt graphic 112 
graphic 932 
graphic 257  graphic 756
I close the programme and everything gets fine again. I tried to use program 
compatibility option but without any avail.
Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Him Prasad Gautam
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board

hi Naresh,
First of all, let you be clear.
A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following 
characteristics.
1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of the 
keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a conflict. The screen 
reader does  not know what should it speak when you press the key of c and h 
because the letter च is only generated after completing the all three letters. 
At Final stage, when you press a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what 
it should speak when you press
  the two keys c and h?
 And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is confusing. 
Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based typing tools like ka = 
क, kha = खetc.
2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which generates 
multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the keyboard. In this case 
too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which one Hindi 
letter is generated on pressing a single key of the keyboard.
Or,
One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is no 
conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
It is specially design for those person who has the following characteristics.
1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic based Hindi 
typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are using it.
you can download it from:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.exe?dl=0

you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you must active  
your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys assigned for it 
is presented there.
briefly speaking, it has;
k for क, shift k for ख
g for ग, shift g for घ
c for च, shift C for छ
j for  ज, shift j for झ
n for न, shift n for ण
t for त, shift t for थ
p for प, shift p for फ
b for ब, shift b for भ
s for स, shift s for श
 etc. etc.  are assigned.
Hope it helps you.



On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
> Hi Him,
> I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally I 
> find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can 
> explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that I 
> have explained what you wanted to know.
> Best
> Naresh
>
> On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:
>> hi,
>> Are you Visually impaired or sited?
>> If VI, then your wish of typing in roman and getting  in Hindi does 
>> not suit your condition.  This approach leads you always in problem. 
>> I will elaborate the possible encounter. Let you clear your 
>> condition. I can help you in either condition.
>>
>> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
>>> Dear list,
>>> I wish to learn Hindi typing with phonetic keyboard which means if I 
>>> type the spellings in Roman it gets typed  in Hindi. I would be 
>>> really grateful to one who can tell me step-by-step to start with. I 
>>> am not very 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

[Vedprakash]

I have also adjusted to it. But we can change keyboards by pressing control 
plus space if we have other keyboards like Saraswati Hindi Phonetic, Godrage 
etc.

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
sanjay
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:26 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

I learnt Hindi typing with devanagari inscript.  I think, It is built-in 
keyboard in windows.

- Original Message -
From: "Him Prasad Gautam" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe 
disabled." 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board


> hi Naresh,
> First of all, let you be clear.
> A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following 
> characteristics.
> 1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of 
> the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a 
> conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when 
> you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated 
> after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press 
> a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when 
> you press  the two keys c and h?
> And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is 
> confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based 
> typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
> 2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which 
> generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the 
> keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
> 3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which 
> one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the 
> keyboard.
> Or,
> One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is 
> no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
> I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
> It is specially design for those person who has the following 
> characteristics.
> 1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
> 2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
> 3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
> I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic 
> based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are 
> using it.
> you can download it from:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.ex
> e?dl=0
>
> you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
> since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you 
> must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
> after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
> there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
> Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys 
> assigned for it is presented there.
> briefly speaking, it has;
> k for क, shift k for ख
> g for ग, shift g for घ
> c for च, shift C for छ
> j for  ज, shift j for झ
> n for न, shift n for ण
> t for त, shift t for थ
> p for प, shift p for फ
> b for ब, shift b for भ
> s for स, shift s for श
> etc. etc.  are assigned.
> Hope it helps you.
>
>
>
> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
>> Hi Him,
>> I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally 
>> I find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can 
>> explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that 
>> I have explained what you wanted to know.
>> Best
>> Naresh
>>
>> On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> Are you Visually impaired or sited?
>>> If VI, then your wish of typing in roman and getting  in Hindi does 
>>> not suit your condition.  This approach leads you always in problem. 
>>> I will elaborate the possible encounter. Let you clear your 
>>> condition. I can help you in either condition.
>>>
>>> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
 Dear list,
 I wish to learn Hindi typing with phonetic keyboard which means if 
 I type the spellings in Roman it gets typed  in Hindi. I would be 
 really grateful to one who can tell me step-by-step to start with. 
 I am not very good with technology but online guidance would definitely 
 help.
 Regards
 Naresh

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Re: [AI] Games inputs

[Bhavya shah]

Hi Ruchi Auntie,
I am unsure as to what I could personally suggest you, but you may
want to get involved in Audazzle's works (www.audazzle.com). This is a
fairly recent company which had a similar background and mission, a
visually impaired child, games that both sighted and visually impaired
could play together...
Do check that out and let me know if you would like their contact
details or anything as such, Skype, e-mail etc.
Thanks.


On 11/30/15, Ruchi  wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
> I am a mother of a 12 year old visually impaired child.
>
> I am really keen to make some games for the community which you would really
> love to play by yourself and with each other.
>
> Wanted to understand, if anyone has any ideas, I could pursue it further.
>
> Also, what platform would be most preferable.
>
> Your inputs are valuable. Waiting to hear from you.
>
> Regards,
> Ruchi
>
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http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
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Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4

[li...@srinivasu.org]

Rahul,
In my opinion disliking the voice of TTS is an issue st user level and not 
something that NV Access could address. 

My experience is they I have been using for about 5 years now and when I tried 
JAWS in the recent past for a project, I found JAWS to be less responsive than 
NVDA. Of course, I use NVDA with eSpeak. But I don't really complain about JAWS 
but my mindset. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 30-Nov-2015, at 11:09, Rahul Kelapure  wrote:
> 
> True.
> 
> But what do you suggest one should do in order to get better results?
> Are there some aulternatives available in order to get a better
> quality speech?
> I also feel, non-liking of the voice of the TTS is a major reason why
> I also did not venture for NVDA especially when I do want to use its
> so many great features.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
>> On 11/27/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
>> Hello Nasrullah Shahwani
>> 
>> NVDA is a screen reader, Urdu language would come under synthesizer
>> development. There is work going on for eSpeak development for Indian
>> languages, I will request my colleague to elaborate the status about it.
>> 
>> NVDA India team can fix issues that prevent a synthesizers to work properly
>> with NVDA. But we cannot fix inefficient and badly designed synthesizers.
>> 
>> I understand that for end users NVDA and synthesizers are the same, but in
>> software like many things in life, there are some constraints that our often
>> beyond our control.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
>> Of Nasrullah Shahwani
>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:39 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4
>> 
>> h
>> elø sir are you working on urdu langvije ? Please reply thanks
>> 
>>> On 11/26/15, pawan jain  wrote:
 On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
 Sure we can, our mandate is to enable NVDA for Employment, education and
 Indian Languages.
 
 But we cannot do much without knowing exactly what is not working, and we
 also need support from the organizations that has implemented SAP
 solution
 and SAP labs.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Tilakprasad Joshi
 Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:40 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] New features added by NVDA India team for NVDA 2015.4
 
 Could you take up accessibility issue with SAP so that NVDA can become
 accessible with SAP which will be really beneficial.
 
 Warm Regards,
 Tilak.
 
> On 11/26/15, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
> Hi Access Indians,
> 
> 
> 
> As you know, The NVDA India team primarily works on requirements raised
> in
> India. We are eager to hear from the users of NVDA about challenges that
> they face while using NVDA. We prioritize the feature requests according
 to
> number of requests for any features or its impact on employability and
> education. Anything that will make NVDA work better with Indian
> languages
> is
> also our top priority as these issues never get priority by  non-Indian
> developers. Thus, if there are any issues that you would like to report,
> please report them on NVDA issue tracker on github
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues and forward the ticket number
> and
> description to sumandog...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> Sean Randall has written a nice blog on LinkedIn about the features:
 NVDASR
> doesn't just have new features, it adds them beautifully
 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nvdasr-doesnt-just-have-new-features-adds-the
> m-sean-randall
> 
> 
> 
> A brief description of these features follows:
> 
> 
> 
> Support of protected excel sheets: in a protected sheet if a cell
 selection
> is disabled, NVDA was not able to read the content in that cell. NVDA
 users
> can now navigate to those cells using browse mode. During the browse
> mode,
> NVDA would also announce whether a cell is unlocked so that users can
 press
> enter to move the focus to that cell.
> 
> 
> 
> Listing and renaming of Microsoft Excel sheets: while working with large
> number of sheets, users often need a way to list all the sheets. So we
 have
> added an option to list sheets in elements list dialog. Users can also
> change the name of sheets in this list with f2 command. This command is
> added because NVDA was not working in the 

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

[Him Prasad Gautam]

Hi VedPrakash,
It seems that you have to revisit your windows account setting.
There is no issue of installation.  The problem you are facing is
purely your machine specific.


On 11/30/15, Vedprakash  wrote:
> I have also adjusted to it. But we can change keyboards by pressing control
> plus space if we have other keyboards like Saraswati Hindi Phonetic, Godrage
> etc.
>
> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of sanjay
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:26 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board
>
> I learnt Hindi typing with devanagari inscript.  I think, It is built-in
> keyboard in windows.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Him Prasad Gautam" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board
>
>
>> hi Naresh,
>> First of all, let you be clear.
>> A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following
>> characteristics.
>> 1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of
>> the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a
>> conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when
>> you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated
>> after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press
>> a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when
>> you press  the two keys c and h?
>> And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is
>> confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based
>> typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
>> 2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which
>> generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the
>> keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
>> 3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which
>> one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the
>> keyboard.
>> Or,
>> One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is
>> no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
>> I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
>> It is specially design for those person who has the following
>> characteristics.
>> 1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
>> 2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
>> 3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
>> I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic
>> based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are
>> using it.
>> you can download it from:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.ex
>> e?dl=0
>>
>> you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
>> since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you
>> must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
>> after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
>> there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
>> Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys
>> assigned for it is presented there.
>> briefly speaking, it has;
>> k for क, shift k for ख
>> g for ग, shift g for घ
>> c for च, shift C for छ
>> j for  ज, shift j for झ
>> n for न, shift n for ण
>> t for त, shift t for थ
>> p for प, shift p for फ
>> b for ब, shift b for भ
>> s for स, shift s for श
>> etc. etc.  are assigned.
>> Hope it helps you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
>>> Hi Him,
>>> I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally
>>> I find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can
>>> explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that
>>> I have explained what you wanted to know.
>>> Best
>>> Naresh
>>>
>>> On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:
 hi,
 Are you Visually impaired or sited?
 If VI, then your wish of typing in roman and getting  in Hindi does
 not suit your condition.  This approach leads you always in problem.
 I will elaborate the possible encounter. Let you clear your
 condition. I can help you in either condition.

 On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
> Dear list,
> I wish to learn Hindi typing with phonetic keyboard which means if
> I type the spellings in Roman it gets typed  in Hindi. I would be
> really grateful to one who can tell me step-by-step to start with.
> I am not very good with technology but online guidance would