Re: [AI] Connecting People with Engineering Background

2018-09-16 Thread Akashdeep Bansal
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Re: [AI] Connecting People with Engineering Background

2018-09-16 Thread deepak singla
you can contact me on 8146424200


On 9/13/18, Devendra Goel  wrote:
> Hi All
> Greetings..
>
> I am Devendra Goel with a condition of Low Vision.
>
> I would like to connect with  the people from Engineering background, I
> want
> to explore how they are managing the things in Industrial environment.
>
> Looking forward for some expert opinions.
>
> You can also write me at goeld...@gmail.com or call me @ 6394551652.
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> WR
> Dev
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Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-16 Thread Mahesh Narasimhan
Hello Folks,

Good discussion!

I fully agree with Rahul and Preeti Mam. I did disclose my disability
in my resume and in my covering letter I did mention about my
achievements.

I strongly feel that we must give pointers to the employer to think
deep and to come back to us. We bring a different angle to the table.
Good managers would like to include our view.

We must give that much extra time and space to the employer so that
they are ready to provide us with the right ecosystem and to absorb
our skills productively. This is possible only when they are aware
about our condition.

We must always give our best because we get very limited opportunity.
The employer must feel that we are an asset to the organization.

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On 9/14/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I hope this message finds you well.
>>>
>>> I was actually wondering what you thought about something that flows from
>>> a conversation that I had with some blind lawyers in the US in a meeting
>>> aimed at guiding some fresh law school graduates with disabilities who
>>> are finding great difficulty getting employed.
>>>
>>> One line of argument was that a disabled lawyer should not disclose their
>>> disability in their job application/cv, given that this wouldgive an
>>> employer a potential reason to discriminate and to find strategic ways to
>>> disguise that discrimination in such a subtle way as to ensure that it
>>> does not appear legally suspect (principally by citing reasons not
>>> related to a person's disability for not giving an interview call or the
>>> like, when the actual reason is disability). Proponents of this view
>>> believe that the interview process is solely aimed at ascertaining
>>> whether an applicant is qualified for the job concerned and that a
>>> disability has no bearing on that determination. By bringing the
>>> disability into the picture, you often end up colouring a potential
>>> employer's views about you in a negative way. They argue that the
>>> disability can be discussed once a decision to hire you has been made,
>>> for discussing reasonable accommodations.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, I am of the view that it is important to proceed on
>>> the premise that people do not have a discriminatory intent and to
>>> disclose the fact of your disability upfront while also making clear that
>>> your disability has not held you back from realizing your full potential,
>>> as opposed to brushing this issue under the carpet and thereby
>>> squandering the opportunity to disabuse a potential employer of false
>>> notions and stereotypes about a disabled person's competence. My view is
>>> that concealing the fact of one's disability at the time of applying
>>> prevents a potential employer from reflecting on the modus operandi that
>>> a disabled employee is likely to adopt to perform their functions and
>>> consequently from asking questions about the disability in the interview
>>> which can enable them to form a more informed view about the applicant's
>>> suitability.
>>>
>>> I'd be grateful if you could share your personal view about this,
>>> whenever convenient, based on your own experience and conversations you
>>> may have had with folks with disabilities. Some of them were suggesting
>>> that my views may be based on some unique features of Indian society
>>> which merit closer scrutiny.  Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[AI] Chandrakanta novel in printed Braille

2018-09-16 Thread Aman Preet Singh
Hi friends! I want to purchase a famous romantic hindi novel named
Chandrakanta and Chandrakanta santati (in six volumes) in braille. I am
looking for it from many Braille pre in India. I visited the catalogue
of all India confederation of the Blind's Braille press and also checked
the Braille catalogue of NIEPVD Dehradun's Braille press but I did not find
this novel in any Braille press. Please anyone tell me from which Braille
press I should contact to purchase these all books in Braille? I also
cannot purchase a Braille note taker / Braille display whether I can read
this novel in Braille so please help me in this matter. With kind regards:
Aman Preet Singh.



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[AI] last rubber point of white cane

2018-09-16 Thread Mohit Gupta
dear friends,
please tell me how and from where to get last rubber point of white cane ?


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Re: [AI] Disclosure of disability in a job application: your personal views

2018-09-16 Thread Sona Suresh
it is better to give clarity to the employer

On 9/15/18, sadaf khan  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I Second Kartik's opinion.
>
> While I have mentioned indirectly about my disability in my resume, at
> the start of my career I mentioned that I am a  100% blind individual
> in the telephonic round. What I observed then was that with the
> mention of my disability an attitude was already formed which largely
> conveyed to me that most of the firms are sadly not yet aware how
> people with visual impairment function with assistive technology.
> Considering the current sinario of the Indian society I was jobless
> for a long time. while there are acceptions who when it comes to
> awareness, most of them are the large corporate firms who for their
> own CSR reasons higher people with disability.
>
> the technique that works very well with me is not mentioning anything
> about the disability until the face to face round of interview. doing
> this gives you an opportunity to demonstrate to the interviewer how
> your disability doesn't come in your way of your capabilities. he/she
> then has a outlook towards you which is free of  attitudinal bariers.
>
> I also agree that the interviewer may not be able to ask questions
> related to your disability since he doesn't know anything about it, to
> resolve this I have a document made for myself which talks about the
> major challenges faced by people with visual impairment and how we
> overcome the same. to name a few, mobility, using computers/ mobiles
> ETC. it has a brief description of all the assistive aids that I use
> as well. the document helps answer most of the questions any
> interviewer may have for us.
>
>
>
> On 9/14/18, Kartik Sawhney  wrote:
>> Hi Rahul,
>>
>> All of these points make complete sense. As I said before, there is no
>> absolute correct answer here, and it'll be unfair to generalize. One
>> needs to evaluate the pros and cons given a particular industry,
>> company or opportunity. Just as how your experiences are completely
>> different from Mine or Pranav's, there could be other factors that are
>> not relevant to you or me, but might play an important role in this
>> decision for someone else. I have been at a bunch of disclosure talks
>> and webinars during university, and I like the way many organizations
>> approach this discussion in the US. They break this down into "what",
>> "when", "how" and "why" of disability disclosure (I probably messed up
>> the order), and provide guidance on each of them. It is then up to the
>> person to evaluate this given their unique circumstances.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> On 9/14/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
>>> Hi Kartik and all,
>>>
>>> Kartik, I think we are in substantial agreement here. Both of us would
>>> like
>>> to be assessed solely by our qualifications and ability to get the job
>>> done
>>> and not be given additional brownie points for having a disability, just
>>> as
>>> we would not like to be discriminated against based on our disability.
>>>
>>> As one of the lawyers said in the meeting I referenced in the first
>>> post,
>>> we
>>> would like to be assessed solely by the content of our character, as Dr.
>>> King said. That is, however, not the case sometimes. This being so, the
>>> question then is not if your disability will play a role but what role
>>> it
>>> will play. I think a better answer to that question is that, by taking
>>> control of the situation by making a disclosure upfront, we can make
>>> that
>>> role positive. Your opinion is that its role can be addressed as and
>>> when
>>> it
>>> naturally comes up in the selection process.
>>>
>>> Insofar as my assumption that people giving careful thought to this
>>> issue
>>> is
>>> concerned, that is based on my own experience. More specifically, for a
>>> couple of internships which I did and even in my job interview, since
>>> they
>>> knew I was blind beforehand, they were equipped to have a constructive
>>> conversation which they would have perhaps not been if they didn't know
>>> this
>>> beforehand. In my job interview, for example, I was asked how I would
>>> feel
>>> about being asked to shift to a different vertical in the firm owing to
>>> the
>>> constraints flowing from my disability. I don't think such a thoughtful
>>> question could have been formulated sans prior notice.
>>>
>>> In the meeting I had, the folks espousing the  view that disclosure
>>> should
>>> not be made were saying that prior disclosure results in : (a) the
>>> employer
>>> trying to lay traps to not hire you due to objective factors and (b)
>>> making
>>> a palpable difference in how you are treated in the interview. Now, I
>>> personally have never faced such treatment. However, it is certainly
>>> conceivable. If a potential employer is biased against you in that way,
>>> I
>>> think the best approach is to make as strong and emphatic a case about:
>>> (a)
>>> howyour disability will not come in the way; (b) some of their concerns
>>> are
>>> unfounded and