Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Satguru Rathi]

Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and 
untill recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How one 
expects from a blind candidate who has studied Maths till class 8th and 
was never even told in school about something called "Reasoning"! How 
would he solve such questions? Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled 
in some coatching, will he be able to understand all those concepts at 
par with his sighted pears? We must first focus on strengthning our 
education system.



Best.

On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:

Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We
are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted
people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and
graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the
fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special
schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do not
include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the primary and
secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate enough to
have inclusive education, or having a good family status along with
support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die because
of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the education
system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest that
organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, such as
testing the candidates on various parameters such as psychometric,
reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan readerrs,
English/Hindi  reading and writing skill, mathematical ability etc.
Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for reservation in
employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full Vacancy.
This is some where a result of disguised discrimination in the public
sector organizations, and even in general the big private sector
employers are willing to recruit only those visually impaired who have
spent a lots of money on education / higher education. So who bothers
about the unfortunates and economically backward blind candidates?

On 8/16/22, Sandesh HR  wrote:

Hi friends,
Kethan said rightly.
Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail.
strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam
written format processes well.

Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the
journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. scribe
will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or two
minute To read the instruction to screen reader users.
Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two minute.
That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 to 4 minutes.
Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he or she able to not more
than 20 to 25 instructions.
My view is strengthen the system.
Make the exam screens accessible and user friendly (compatible with
keyboard and low vision friendly)with screen reader
If person has use digital device to write the exam on their own
Insite is person with vision impaired join banking and other public
sector jobs without knowing computer spelling and mobility knowledge.
Present government system is some of vision impaired join the
government jobs without require knowledge and skills. Therefore public
sector changing their perception about vision impaired hiring. More
towards functional low vision.
After candidate's hiring organization approachs subject mater experts
to spend exstra money to train the vision impaired candidates.
  Therefore bank put the pressure on facilitators teach all vision
impaired employees in less amount of 100 hours.
Financial burden government sectors and corporate sectors as well.
Learner feels Burdon and pressure to learn from typing to internet,
My view is need to emphasize our community before taking the exams
improve computer, spelling, English mobility efficiency and process
discipline.
Exam duration has to increase on reality wise.
Example: screen reader user has to attend the 100 questions in 80 minutes.
Screen reader user has to answer less than almost 30 to 40 seconds.
He or she has to understand the layout of window, followed by
comprehend the screen reader accent, need to decide efficiently use
keyboard commands to use to quickly complete the exam.
Comprehend the questions, he or she has to listen screen reader key
command twice or trice less than 30 seconds.
If screen reader user taking 90 seconds to solve one question, that
means before apply government exams need to ask our self am I
efficient?
If any person feels need to improve should take action to become
excellent on computer, English, competitive exams.
Lot of work involves back ground all the coaching center syllabus has to
change.
Need to do the capacity building the coaching center faculties teach
reasoning, aptitude and English.
One more glitch will begin again scribe banks as well if we recommends.

Example: few states very 

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[Pinkesh Tailor]

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Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Pinkesh Tailor]

Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We
are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted
people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and
graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the
fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special
schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do not
include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the primary and
secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate enough to
have inclusive education, or having a good family status along with
support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die because
of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the education
system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest that
organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, such as
testing the candidates on various parameters such as psychometric,
reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan readerrs,
English/Hindi  reading and writing skill, mathematical ability etc.
Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for reservation in
employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full Vacancy.
This is some where a result of disguised discrimination in the public
sector organizations, and even in general the big private sector
employers are willing to recruit only those visually impaired who have
spent a lots of money on education / higher education. So who bothers
about the unfortunates and economically backward blind candidates?

On 8/16/22, Sandesh HR  wrote:
> Hi friends,
> Kethan said rightly.
> Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail.
> strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam
> written format processes well.
>
> Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the
> journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. scribe
> will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or two
> minute To read the instruction to screen reader users.
> Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two minute.
> That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 to 4 minutes.
> Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he or she able to not more
> than 20 to 25 instructions.
> My view is strengthen the system.
> Make the exam screens accessible and user friendly (compatible with
> keyboard and low vision friendly)with screen reader
> If person has use digital device to write the exam on their own
> Insite is person with vision impaired join banking and other public
> sector jobs without knowing computer spelling and mobility knowledge.
> Present government system is some of vision impaired join the
> government jobs without require knowledge and skills. Therefore public
> sector changing their perception about vision impaired hiring. More
> towards functional low vision.
> After candidate's hiring organization approachs subject mater experts
> to spend exstra money to train the vision impaired candidates.
>  Therefore bank put the pressure on facilitators teach all vision
> impaired employees in less amount of 100 hours.
> Financial burden government sectors and corporate sectors as well.
> Learner feels Burdon and pressure to learn from typing to internet,
> My view is need to emphasize our community before taking the exams
> improve computer, spelling, English mobility efficiency and process
> discipline.
> Exam duration has to increase on reality wise.
> Example: screen reader user has to attend the 100 questions in 80 minutes.
> Screen reader user has to answer less than almost 30 to 40 seconds.
> He or she has to understand the layout of window, followed by
> comprehend the screen reader accent, need to decide efficiently use
> keyboard commands to use to quickly complete the exam.
> Comprehend the questions, he or she has to listen screen reader key
> command twice or trice less than 30 seconds.
> If screen reader user taking 90 seconds to solve one question, that
> means before apply government exams need to ask our self am I
> efficient?
> If any person feels need to improve should take action to become
> excellent on computer, English, competitive exams.
> Lot of work involves back ground all the coaching center syllabus has to
> change.
> Need to do the capacity building the coaching center faculties teach
> reasoning, aptitude and English.
> One more glitch will begin again scribe banks as well if we recommends.
>
> Example: few states very difficult get scribe who is good at reading
> english and Hindi.
> Since government attend the exam in Hindi still scribes unable to read
> English properly.
>
>
> My view is all stake holders together work make our community good in
> society and solve the exam
> Let us do retrospection rather than blame the scribes.
> Action VS reaction.
>
> I have felt to share my incite and I am not against views .
>
> On 8/16/22, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>> Hi Friends,
>>
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Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[B. R. Nautial]

May be this is the only reason with me because i am still using ms office 
2010
- Original Message - 
From: "Minar Singh" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


I think He is using much older version of MS office. Narrator won't
support 2013 and 2016 versions of MS office.

On 8/16/22, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,
1st of all, don’t know what version of office you are using.
I am able to read the contents from the excel using narrator with office
365.
Just see that the scan mode is turned off while navigating on the excel. 
To

switch between the scan mode, press capslock plus space and see it works.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
Sent: 16 August 2022 17:53
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in excel. I
already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so. 
please!


guide me step-by-step.
Thank you very much
- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when you 
open

the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to give you the
brief overview about narraor including keyboard, verbosity settings etc. 
its

just like when you install the jaws, start up wizard appears to enable you
to make few primary settings or when you install NVDA, welcome screen
appears to let you set your desirable parameters. just tab to minimise
narrator and then you can start using the narraor just like the screen
reader.

open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the
standard window navigation commands. there is no such specific settings to
be done to work in these applications. of course, if you would like to 
edit
the data while working in these apps, scan mode must be turned off which 
can

be done by pressing narrator key i.e.
insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application which
enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and controls.

when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried reading 
or

editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this will help to
understand your dificulty.

thanks,
Mukesh

On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:

wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word &
excel

app with windows 10? please!
- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
from window 10 onwards, narrator has emerged to be the grate
alternative to the paid screen readers. this has become very powerful
and efficient inbuilt solution provided by microsoft. In window 10,
you can even work independently in the regional languages like hindi
using its own voices like Kalpana and Hemant. in window 11, more newer
voices have been introduced which enhances more clarity in terms of
tts support. i have been using narraor in all the MS applications
successfully including Excel, Powerpoint, Word etc.

so grate job is been done by the microsoft and hoping to have more
such features added in the time to come!
thanks,
Mukesh


On 8/15/22, Minar Singh  wrote:

We need to keep pace with newer technology. Narrator is emerging as
capable free inbuilt screen reader for Window's platform. I use
Narrator for internet browsing, making power point presentation and
Excel reports as well. Performing web accessibility and documents
accessibility testing with Narrator is part of my job. We are going
to witness significant improvement in Narrator in future.

On 8/15/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:

Is it possible with windows 10? but it looks no because you already
made it clear that it takes place with windows 11.
  - Original Message -
  From: Pranav Lal
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 8:09 AM
  Subject: RE: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


  Hi,



  Narrator at least on windows 11 is a capable screen reader and you
can read text in word and in notepad.



  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 On Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 5:58 AM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1



  Really great! but i really want to know, whether is it possible to
read text either in word or on a notepad with the help of narrator?

- Original Message -

From: Usha Meet

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 10:13 PM

Subject: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1



Hi everyone,



Here is 

Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[B. R. Nautial]

oh! I am using Office 2010 standard version May be that's why, i am not able 
to read text neither in microsoft word nor with excel.
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


Hi,
1st of all, don’t know what version of office you are using.
I am able to read the contents from the excel using narrator with office 
365.
Just see that the scan mode is turned off while navigating on the excel. To 
switch between the scan mode, press capslock plus space and see it works.




-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On 
Behalf Of B. R. Nautial

Sent: 16 August 2022 17:53
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in excel. I 
already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so. please!

guide me step-by-step.
Thank you very much
- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when you open 
the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to give you the 
brief overview about narraor including keyboard, verbosity settings etc. its 
just like when you install the jaws, start up wizard appears to enable you 
to make few primary settings or when you install NVDA, welcome screen 
appears to let you set your desirable parameters. just tab to minimise 
narrator and then you can start using the narraor just like the screen 
reader.


open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the 
standard window navigation commands. there is no such specific settings to 
be done to work in these applications. of course, if you would like to  edit 
the data while working in these apps, scan mode must be turned off which can 
be done by pressing narrator key i.e.

insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application which 
enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and controls.


when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried reading or 
editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this will help to 
understand your dificulty.


thanks,
Mukesh

On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:

wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word &
excel

app with windows 10? please!
- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
from window 10 onwards, narrator has emerged to be the grate
alternative to the paid screen readers. this has become very powerful
and efficient inbuilt solution provided by microsoft. In window 10,
you can even work independently in the regional languages like hindi
using its own voices like Kalpana and Hemant. in window 11, more newer
voices have been introduced which enhances more clarity in terms of
tts support. i have been using narraor in all the MS applications
successfully including Excel, Powerpoint, Word etc.

so grate job is been done by the microsoft and hoping to have more
such features added in the time to come!
thanks,
Mukesh


On 8/15/22, Minar Singh  wrote:

We need to keep pace with newer technology. Narrator is emerging as
capable free inbuilt screen reader for Window's platform. I use
Narrator for internet browsing, making power point presentation and
Excel reports as well. Performing web accessibility and documents
accessibility testing with Narrator is part of my job. We are going
to witness significant improvement in Narrator in future.

On 8/15/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:

Is it possible with windows 10? but it looks no because you already
made it clear that it takes place with windows 11.
  - Original Message -
  From: Pranav Lal
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 8:09 AM
  Subject: RE: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


  Hi,



  Narrator at least on windows 11 is a capable screen reader and you
can read text in word and in notepad.



  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 On Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 5:58 AM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1



  Really great! but i really want to know, whether is it possible to
read text either in word or on a notepad with the help of narrator?

- Original Message -

From: Usha Meet

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 10:13 PM

Subject: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1



Hi everyone,



Here is YouTube link of my channel where I tried to address
narrator screen reader basic questions part 1 Microsoft 

Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[Minar Singh]

I think He is using much older version of MS office. Narrator won't
support 2013 and 2016 versions of MS office.

On 8/16/22, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi,
> 1st of all, don’t know what version of office you are using.
> I am able to read the contents from the excel using narrator with office
> 365.
> Just see that the scan mode is turned off while navigating on the excel. To
> switch between the scan mode, press capslock plus space and see it works.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
> Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
> Sent: 16 August 2022 17:53
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>
> oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in excel. I
> already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so. please!
>
> guide me step-by-step.
> Thank you very much
> - Original Message -
> From: "mukesh jain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>
>
> hello,
> first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when you open
> the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to give you the
> brief overview about narraor including keyboard, verbosity settings etc. its
> just like when you install the jaws, start up wizard appears to enable you
> to make few primary settings or when you install NVDA, welcome screen
> appears to let you set your desirable parameters. just tab to minimise
> narrator and then you can start using the narraor just like the screen
> reader.
>
> open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the
> standard window navigation commands. there is no such specific settings to
> be done to work in these applications. of course, if you would like to  edit
> the data while working in these apps, scan mode must be turned off which can
> be done by pressing narrator key i.e.
> insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
> turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application which
> enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and controls.
>
> when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried reading or
> editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this will help to
> understand your dificulty.
>
> thanks,
> Mukesh
>
> On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>> wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word &
>> excel
>>
>> app with windows 10? please!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "mukesh jain" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>
>>
>> hello,
>> from window 10 onwards, narrator has emerged to be the grate
>> alternative to the paid screen readers. this has become very powerful
>> and efficient inbuilt solution provided by microsoft. In window 10,
>> you can even work independently in the regional languages like hindi
>> using its own voices like Kalpana and Hemant. in window 11, more newer
>> voices have been introduced which enhances more clarity in terms of
>> tts support. i have been using narraor in all the MS applications
>> successfully including Excel, Powerpoint, Word etc.
>>
>> so grate job is been done by the microsoft and hoping to have more
>> such features added in the time to come!
>> thanks,
>> Mukesh
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
>>> We need to keep pace with newer technology. Narrator is emerging as
>>> capable free inbuilt screen reader for Window's platform. I use
>>> Narrator for internet browsing, making power point presentation and
>>> Excel reports as well. Performing web accessibility and documents
>>> accessibility testing with Narrator is part of my job. We are going
>>> to witness significant improvement in Narrator in future.
>>>
>>> On 8/15/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
 Is it possible with windows 10? but it looks no because you already
 made it clear that it takes place with windows 11.
   - Original Message -
   From: Pranav Lal
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 8:09 AM
   Subject: RE: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


   Hi,



   Narrator at least on windows 11 is a capable screen reader and you
 can read text in word and in notepad.



   From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  On Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
   Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 5:58 AM
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1



   Really great! but i really want to know, whether is it possible to
 read text either in word or on a notepad with the help of narrator?

 - Original Message -

 From: Usha Meet

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

 Sent: Sunday, August 14, 

RE: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[techsavi.shankar]

Hi,
1st of all, don’t know what version of office you are using.
I am able to read the contents from the excel using narrator with office 365.
Just see that the scan mode is turned off while navigating on the excel. To 
switch between the scan mode, press capslock plus space and see it works.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of B. R. Nautial
Sent: 16 August 2022 17:53
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in excel. I 
already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so. please! 
guide me step-by-step.
Thank you very much
- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when you open 
the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to give you the brief 
overview about narraor including keyboard, verbosity settings etc. its just 
like when you install the jaws, start up wizard appears to enable you to make 
few primary settings or when you install NVDA, welcome screen appears to let 
you set your desirable parameters. just tab to minimise narrator and then you 
can start using the narraor just like the screen reader.

open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the standard 
window navigation commands. there is no such specific settings to be done to 
work in these applications. of course, if you would like to  edit the data 
while working in these apps, scan mode must be turned off which can be done by 
pressing narrator key i.e.
insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application which 
enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and controls.

when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried reading or 
editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this will help to understand 
your dificulty.

thanks,
Mukesh

On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word & 
> excel
>
> app with windows 10? please!
> - Original Message -
> From: "mukesh jain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>
>
> hello,
> from window 10 onwards, narrator has emerged to be the grate 
> alternative to the paid screen readers. this has become very powerful 
> and efficient inbuilt solution provided by microsoft. In window 10, 
> you can even work independently in the regional languages like hindi 
> using its own voices like Kalpana and Hemant. in window 11, more newer 
> voices have been introduced which enhances more clarity in terms of 
> tts support. i have been using narraor in all the MS applications 
> successfully including Excel, Powerpoint, Word etc.
>
> so grate job is been done by the microsoft and hoping to have more 
> such features added in the time to come!
> thanks,
> Mukesh
>
>
> On 8/15/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
>> We need to keep pace with newer technology. Narrator is emerging as 
>> capable free inbuilt screen reader for Window's platform. I use 
>> Narrator for internet browsing, making power point presentation and 
>> Excel reports as well. Performing web accessibility and documents 
>> accessibility testing with Narrator is part of my job. We are going 
>> to witness significant improvement in Narrator in future.
>>
>> On 8/15/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>>> Is it possible with windows 10? but it looks no because you already 
>>> made it clear that it takes place with windows 11.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   From: Pranav Lal
>>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>   Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 8:09 AM
>>>   Subject: RE: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>>
>>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Narrator at least on windows 11 is a capable screen reader and you 
>>> can read text in word and in notepad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>>>  On Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
>>>   Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 5:58 AM
>>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Really great! but i really want to know, whether is it possible to 
>>> read text either in word or on a notepad with the help of narrator?
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> From: Usha Meet
>>>
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 10:13 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is YouTube link of my channel where I tried to address 
>>> narrator screen reader basic questions part 1 Microsoft Narrator 
>>> screenreader basic 

Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[B. R. Nautial]

oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in excel. I 
already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so. please! 
guide me step-by-step.

Thank you very much
- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when
you open the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to
give you the brief overview about narraor including keyboard,
verbosity settings etc. its just like when you install the jaws, start
up wizard appears to enable you to make few primary settings or when
you install NVDA, welcome screen appears to let you set your desirable
parameters. just tab to minimise narrator and then you can start using
the narraor just like the screen reader.

open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the
standard window navigation commands. there is no such specific
settings to be done to work in these applications. of course, if you
would like to  edit the data while working in these apps, scan mode
must be turned off which can be done by pressing narrator key i.e.
insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application
which enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and
controls.

when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried
reading or editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this
will help to understand your dificulty.

thanks,
Mukesh

On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word & 
excel


app with windows 10? please!
- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
from window 10 onwards, narrator has emerged to be the grate
alternative to the paid screen readers. this has become very powerful
and efficient inbuilt solution provided by microsoft. In window 10,
you can even work independently in the regional languages like hindi
using its own voices like Kalpana and Hemant. in window 11, more
newer voices have been introduced which enhances more clarity in terms
of tts support. i have been using narraor in all the MS applications
successfully including Excel, Powerpoint, Word etc.

so grate job is been done by the microsoft and hoping to have more
such features added in the time to come!
thanks,
Mukesh


On 8/15/22, Minar Singh  wrote:

We need to keep pace with newer technology. Narrator is emerging as
capable free inbuilt screen reader for Window's platform. I use
Narrator for internet browsing, making power point presentation and
Excel reports as well. Performing web accessibility and documents
accessibility testing with Narrator is part of my job. We are going to
witness significant improvement in Narrator in future.

On 8/15/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:

Is it possible with windows 10? but it looks no because you already made
it
clear that it takes place with windows 11.
  - Original Message -
  From: Pranav Lal
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 8:09 AM
  Subject: RE: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


  Hi,



  Narrator at least on windows 11 is a capable screen reader and you can
read text in word and in notepad.



  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
On
Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 5:58 AM
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1



  Really great! but i really want to know, whether is it possible to
read
text either in word or on a notepad with the help of narrator?

- Original Message -

From: Usha Meet

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 10:13 PM

Subject: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1



Hi everyone,



Here is YouTube link of my channel where I tried to address narrator
screen reader basic questions part 1 Microsoft Narrator screenreader
basic
questions part 1

https://youtu.be/8dUbd3D9VQ4





Thanks,



Usha

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Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Sandesh HR]

Hi friends,
Kethan said rightly.
Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail.
strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam
written format processes well.

Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the
journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. scribe
will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or two
minute To read the instruction to screen reader users.
Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two minute.
That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 to 4 minutes.
Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he or she able to not more
than 20 to 25 instructions.
My view is strengthen the system.
Make the exam screens accessible and user friendly (compatible with
keyboard and low vision friendly)with screen reader
If person has use digital device to write the exam on their own
Insite is person with vision impaired join banking and other public
sector jobs without knowing computer spelling and mobility knowledge.
Present government system is some of vision impaired join the
government jobs without require knowledge and skills. Therefore public
sector changing their perception about vision impaired hiring. More
towards functional low vision.
After candidate's hiring organization approachs subject mater experts
to spend exstra money to train the vision impaired candidates.
 Therefore bank put the pressure on facilitators teach all vision
impaired employees in less amount of 100 hours.
Financial burden government sectors and corporate sectors as well.
Learner feels Burdon and pressure to learn from typing to internet,
My view is need to emphasize our community before taking the exams
improve computer, spelling, English mobility efficiency and process
discipline.
Exam duration has to increase on reality wise.
Example: screen reader user has to attend the 100 questions in 80 minutes.
Screen reader user has to answer less than almost 30 to 40 seconds.
He or she has to understand the layout of window, followed by
comprehend the screen reader accent, need to decide efficiently use
keyboard commands to use to quickly complete the exam.
Comprehend the questions, he or she has to listen screen reader key
command twice or trice less than 30 seconds.
If screen reader user taking 90 seconds to solve one question, that
means before apply government exams need to ask our self am I
efficient?
If any person feels need to improve should take action to become
excellent on computer, English, competitive exams.
Lot of work involves back ground all the coaching center syllabus has to change.
Need to do the capacity building the coaching center faculties teach
reasoning, aptitude and English.
One more glitch will begin again scribe banks as well if we recommends.

Example: few states very difficult get scribe who is good at reading
english and Hindi.
Since government attend the exam in Hindi still scribes unable to read
English properly.


My view is all stake holders together work make our community good in
society and solve the exam
Let us do retrospection rather than blame the scribes.
Action VS reaction.

I have felt to share my incite and I am not against views .

On 8/16/22, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> Hi Friends,
>
> Although the problems mentioned in the article are true to some
> extent, the blind community is also not without blame.  Also, there
> are some glaring inconsistencies in the news item and I wonder why
> this coaching institute is not reported to police?  I would have been
> happy if there were by-line give  in the article.
>
> In most cases, VI people don't wish to read and that is a fact which
> we must accept.  That may be true for even the sighted folks but in
> our case, the options of gaining knowledge are fewer.
>
> For most exams there is a lot of material avaiable but one needs to
> search carefully.
>
> Best,
> Ketan
>
> On 14/08/2022, Minar Singh  wrote:
>> From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe
>> Service' Turning Into 'Business'?
>> New Delhi, India
>> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam (Representational
>> Image)
>> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam (Representational
>> Image)
>> Lack of scribes for candidates with visual impairment has led to a
>> rampant illegal ‘scribe business’ across the country, activists demand
>> national scribe banks.
>> Help offered to visually impaired students in form of scribes is
>> turning into a business, where on one hand deserving students find it
>> difficult to get a scribe, on the other hand, many ‘coaching
>> institutes’ offer scribes as ‘proxy’ candidates to solve papers on
>> behalf of students in exchange for lakhs of rupees. Depending on the
>> exams, several visually impaired candidates have reportedly been asked
>> anywhere from Rs 1 lakh to 5 lakh from scribes.
>> The availability of scribes in exchange for a large amount of money
>> has made seeking payments in return for 

[AI] Paper of Interest: Promoting inclusive innovation for disabled people in four countries: who does what and why?:

[avinash shahi]

Abstract
Disability policy is often characterized as comprising three different
components: citizenship rights, labor market integration and social
protection. In this study, we present a fourth component –
disability-related innovation. Specifically we analyze two critical
interrelated questions: what governments do to guide innovation in
this area; and do patterns of greater government disability policy
involvement in social-democratic welfare states apply in the case of
innovation? Utilizing a qualitative comparison of Germany, Israel,
Sweden and the United States, we find that while policy across all
countries is at first glance decisively similar, the important
differences that exist cannot be satisfactorily explained within the
classical welfare state typology framework. Countries that are leaders
in terms of social support for disabled people – Germany and Sweden –
are not necessarily leaders in disability-related innovation. This is
particularly noticeable in the case of programs for support of
Assistive Technology development.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09687599.2022.2093698
Points of interest
This study characterizes and compares innovation policy as it applies
to disabled people in Germany, Israel, Sweden and the United States.

Innovation policy’s two main components are regulation that requires
Universal Design, which requires that new technologies are designed to
be usable by disabled people as well as others, and financial and
institutional support for the development of Assistive Technologies.

Cross-country ideological and political differences fail to explain
differences in disability-related innovation because innovation
policymaking tends to be apolitical.

Only Israel and the United States created government programs
dedicated to the support of Assistive Technology development.


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अविनाश शाही/ Avinash Shahi
सहायक/ Assistant
मानव संसाधन प्रबंध विभाग/ Human Resource Management Department
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक/ Reserve Bank of India
लखनऊ क्षेत्रीय कार्यालय/Lucknow RO
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Re: [AI] Airlines that provide assistance

[BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA]

has the new guidelines been framed by DGCA? if so, what are the impects 
of new guidelines?



On 8/16/2022 9:36 AM, Anil Kumar wrote:

Hi,

I have travelled 2 or 3  times in Air Asia for last 6 month.  The
experience in terms of support was good.  Even though I had reached
early in Delhi airport when I traveled last month, till boarded in
flight, good care was given to me.

On 8/13/22, Aishwarya Pillai  wrote:

Hi Prerna, Shankar and Vaibhav,

Thanks a lot guys. What  you shared is certainly helpful. I will go
ahead with booking one of these airlines.

Aishwarya.

On 8/13/22, Vaibhav Saraf  wrote:

+1 with Shankar.

I have travelled with Vistara this April, and it was a fine experience.
In
can tell that Air Asia is only better and more assertive.



On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 at 05:57,  wrote:


As I observed, almost all the air services will provide the assistance
for
senior citizens and challenged travellers. You must reach their counters
with the help of security team along with your ticket and personal
identity. Incase if the services are denied, rush to airport authorities
for more help.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
Behalf Of Aishwarya Pillai
Sent: 13 August 2022 14:16
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Airlines that provide assistance

Hi All,

Have any of you travelled alone in 'Go First', 'Air Asia' and 'Vistara'.
I was wondering if the assistance provided is on par with Indigo and
Spice
Jet.  I did travel in the last two and I am sure about them. But I have
no
clue about the others and I am currently to travel and take one of these
flights. Any information will be appreciated.

With regards,
Aishwarya.

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Re: [AI] Union Access

[Harish Kotian]

Hi Prashant

Can this be possivly used for cheques signed with thumb impression?

Harish


On 16/08/2022 10:14, Prashant Naik wrote:

Positive Pay is a process of validating/confirming the key details of
cheques to deter Cheque frauds (applicable on high value cheques amounting
Rs 5/- and above). Please refer to the RBI’s circular number RBI/2020-
1/41/DPSS.CO.RPPD.No.309/04.07.2005/2020-21, issued on September 25th , 2020
Customers are requested to submit in advance the key details of cheques
issued to the beneficiaries so that Bank can pass cheque in CTS clearing
without contacting the customers. In case of any mismatch Bank can reject
the cheque or take suitable action to prevent wrong payment or fraud. Banks
have provided various options for customers to avail this facility through
various banking channels such as: Internet Banking, Branch Visit, SMS
Banking and Internet Banking.

Thanks & Regards
Prashant Naik



On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:46 PM kota prabhu  wrote:


positive pay system is a  security feature introduced to pass high
value cheques.
from september, it is optional for the cheques above 50 k  and
compulsary for above 5l.
suppose I  draw a  cheque in your name for encashment, if you simply
give it in your bank, it will not be cleared at clearing house. after
giving you cheque, I  should additionally confirm it through my
internet or phone banking.
this concept is even new to me, i  have told as per my understanding,
someone may correct me if i  am wrong.

On 15/08/2022, Harish Kotian  wrote:

Hi


What is this Cheque positive ?

Can you throw more light.

Harish



On 14/08/2022 21:30, Rahul Gambhir wrote:

Dear List



Sharing a few successes that Union Access achieved in recent times.

1. The latest success is an OTP generation mobile application for
authorizing login/transactions done on Union Bank of India Internet
Banking portal is made fully screen reader friendly for both android and
IOS in user acceptance test phase. Soon its updated version with maximum
accessibility will be made live. It was a great learning experience for
team Union access to work closely with the developers and to get the
remediations implemented.

2. Newly added features in the internet banking portal of the Union Bank
of India like deposit print receipt,  Re-KYC, Cheque positive pay system
and Debit card limit are improved for accessibility.

3. Bank’s few departments are sensitized and educated to send daily
informative and educative emails with text description for the embedded
images in emails. Also, e-circulars are regularly monitored by the
concerned bank’s team. In case of uploaded scanned image pdf they
immediately flag it for replacement with text searchable pdf format.

4. In continuation to Union Access awareness efforts post 600+
probationary officers disability and accessibility sensitization

sessions,

1400+ clerks total 18 numbers awareness sessions on disability inclusion
are scheduled by the bank's training college which will be conducted by
team Union Access.

5. As part of ongoing Union Access outreach program, we facilitated
opening bank accounts for persons with visual impairment with the

support

from NGOs, colleagues and branch staff.  Our bank’s visually impaired
employees are equally participating in the bank's aspiration on digital
accessibility enhancement.

Still, a long way to go as our key focus is on digital banking channels
accessibility improvements.  We are thankful for the support from the

list

and urge to provide feedback and suggestions to email id
unionacc...@unionbankofindia.bank



Best regards

Rahul Gambhir Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com


On 12-Aug-2022, at 12:38 PM, rajesh parakh 
wrote:

SPLENDID JOB. GREAT INITIATIVE.
REGARDS,
RAJESH PARAKH

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of kota prabhu
Sent: 12 August 2022 00:47
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Union Access

thanks for keeping updated us with the activities you are doing on, we

as

an union bank stake holders and visually impaired, will be always eager

to

here updates from your team.
appriciations towards your activities and wishing you all the very best.



On 28/07/2022, Prerna Sobti  wrote:

Great work keep it up cheers and shouts

Prerna Sobti


On 28-Jul-2022, at 2:28 PM, George Abraham

wrote:


Splendid work!

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Naik
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 1:02 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Union Access

Dear Friends



Two months ago, I shared a positive initiative by Union Bank of India
regarding the launch of a digital accessibility enhancement dedicated
project called Union Access.  Myself and Rahul Gambhir are the
resources involved in this project.

It is an immense task to integrate ICT accessibility across the
organization which will take time.  We have taken several steps in
this direction.  

Re: [AI] Re: From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Minar Singh]

Strict invigilation is needed in IBPS PO, IBPS clerk and RBI
assistance exams. I do not have much experience of other exams like
Railway and  SSC, RRB so won't comment on that. There are few
prominent Visually Impaired people justifying cheating. Their opinion
is that it is ok to use scribe writing answers for VI candidates since
Maths is not taught in special schools. I know some of them
personally. There are ways to learn Maths using technology, Braille
and tailor frame. Maths need daily practice.

On 8/16/22, 'PAUL   MUDDHA' via AccessIndia
 wrote:
> That’s why all most exams are strictly followed with regards to scribes.
> Video recording is being made to see how the candidate dictates to the
> scribe the answers and his lip movements.
> For RRB exam for many Vi candidates two invigilators were deputed to oversee
> the conduct of the exam.
> If this continues them the credibility would be in question..
>
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>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
> Behalf Of RAUSHAN KUMAR
> Sent: 14 August 2022 22:37
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Re: From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is
> Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?
>
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> Dear all
>  If these kinds of malpractices are happening, then more work is required at
> the policy level.
> The whole purpose of a scribe is to enable the candidate, but not to use it
> as a means to cheat. It also discourages those who are working hard, It
> increases the cutoff of the exam, which makes deserving candidates give up
> and lose hope.
>
> In the long term, the people who are going through illegal means will become
> a huge obstruction in creating an inclusive environment.
>
> One of the solutions I can think of will be the audio and video recording of
> the whole exam process and its verification by competent authorities and
> match what has been written by the scribe and spoken by the candidate.
>
> It will be better if more people will come forward and suggest their
> opinion/solutions. Since this is a large problem and its quick fixation is
> needed as soon as possible.
>
>
> With regards
> Raushan Kumar
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 8:50 PM anirudh rao
> mailto:personalanir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> why not install a screen readers in the place of examinations and let
> ourselves to write the exam?
> I remember, when I had appeared for a JNU entrance exam, there was an
> option to write the exam with computer but, on the inquiry, in the
> spot of the examination, the authorities told that there are no such
> provisions/fecilities.
> fortunately, my friends had warned me and had provided me with a scribe.
> otherwise, I had to come back without writing the exam.
> however, my results was also in confusion and that is another story
> for another day.
>
> On 8/14/22, Minar Singh mailto:singhmi...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>> This NEWS has been published in 7 NEWS papers in English and Hindi.
>> Hope everyone will larn a good lesson. Those who have acquired jobs by
>> misuse of scribe facility should be identified and suspended.
>>
>> On 8/14/22, Minar Singh
>> mailto:singhmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe
>>> Service' Turning Into 'Business'?
>>> New Delhi, India
>>> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam (Representational
>>> Image)
>>> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam (Representational
>>> Image)
>>> Lack of scribes for candidates with visual impairment has led to a
>>> rampant illegal ‘scribe business’ across the country, activists demand
>>> national scribe banks.
>>> Help offered to visually impaired students in form of scribes is
>>> turning into a business, where on one hand deserving students find it
>>> difficult to get a scribe, on the other hand, many ‘coaching
>>> institutes’ offer scribes as ‘proxy’ candidates to solve papers on
>>> behalf of students in exchange for lakhs of rupees. Depending on the
>>> exams, several visually impaired candidates have reportedly been asked
>>> anywhere from Rs 1 lakh to 5 lakh from scribes.
>>> The availability of scribes in exchange for a large amount of money
>>> has made seeking payments in return for helping in exams an unsaid
>>> norm. This puts candidates, especially those from low-income
>>> backgrounds at a disadvantage.
>>> In 2021, a 31-year-old person with visual impairment, Satvir Jogi, had
>>> to miss his exam as he failed to find a scribe despite multiple
>>> attempts. For Jogi, who has been applying for several government exams
>>> in the last few years, arranging a scribe has always been a challenge.
>>> “Due to 

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi Friends,

Although the problems mentioned in the article are true to some
extent, the blind community is also not without blame.  Also, there
are some glaring inconsistencies in the news item and I wonder why
this coaching institute is not reported to police?  I would have been
happy if there were by-line give  in the article.

In most cases, VI people don't wish to read and that is a fact which
we must accept.  That may be true for even the sighted folks but in
our case, the options of gaining knowledge are fewer.

For most exams there is a lot of material avaiable but one needs to
search carefully.

Best,
Ketan

On 14/08/2022, Minar Singh  wrote:
> From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe
> Service' Turning Into 'Business'?
> New Delhi, India
> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam (Representational Image)
> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam (Representational Image)
> Lack of scribes for candidates with visual impairment has led to a
> rampant illegal ‘scribe business’ across the country, activists demand
> national scribe banks.
> Help offered to visually impaired students in form of scribes is
> turning into a business, where on one hand deserving students find it
> difficult to get a scribe, on the other hand, many ‘coaching
> institutes’ offer scribes as ‘proxy’ candidates to solve papers on
> behalf of students in exchange for lakhs of rupees. Depending on the
> exams, several visually impaired candidates have reportedly been asked
> anywhere from Rs 1 lakh to 5 lakh from scribes.
> The availability of scribes in exchange for a large amount of money
> has made seeking payments in return for helping in exams an unsaid
> norm. This puts candidates, especially those from low-income
> backgrounds at a disadvantage.
> In 2021, a 31-year-old person with visual impairment, Satvir Jogi, had
> to miss his exam as he failed to find a scribe despite multiple
> attempts. For Jogi, who has been applying for several government exams
> in the last few years, arranging a scribe has always been a challenge.
> “Due to a paucity of reading material for visually impaired candidates
> — online and in physical form — even the preparation for an exam is
> more difficult when compared to visually-abled candidates. To top it
> off, we have the biggest challenge of finding scribes. How are these
> exams fair and equal for us?” says Jogi.
> He adds, “I have given from Rs 1,000 to Rs 2,000 on multiple occasions
> to scribes to write my paper. If a visually impaired candidate is
> lucky, then they sometimes get a volunteer scribe on time, otherwise,
> scribes demand money as per their wish for appearing for exams.”
> SCRIBES ALSO BEING USED AS PROXY CANDIDATES
> Lack of resources and limited vacancies for the visually impaired has
> made many take the illegal route as well. SK Singh, a rights activist
> for people with visual impairment and secretary of the National
> Association for the Blind, claimed that the scribe business is an open
> secret now. It stems from a lack of scribe resources and other
> challenges, including not enough material to prepare for exams and
> fewer job vacancies for people with visual impairment.
> They demand anywhere from Rs 2,000 to just appear for the exam to Rs 5
> lakh to clear it. With the demand for more money, scribes also give
> services to prepare on the behalf of the candidate and appear for the
> exam, alleged SK Singh, a rights activist for people with visual
> impairment and secretary of the National Association for the Blind.
> “Unemployment rates are at an all-time high and everyone wants to
> secure a job. Several scribes have found this opportunity to make
> money out of it. They demand anywhere from Rs 2,000 to just appear for
> the exam to Rs 5 lakh to clear it. With the demand for more money,
> scribes also give services to prepare on the behalf of the candidate
> and appear for the exam.”
> ‘WITH OUR SCRIBES DON’T WORRY ABOUT PASSING EXAM’
> To get to know some of the ‘proxy scribes’, News18 tried to contact a
> few of them. One such person, who runs a coaching center in Mumbai,
> told News18.com, “We have an academy. You only have to give us the
> syllabus and make us meet the candidate. We are quite experienced at
> it, so you don’t have to worry about passing the exam.”
> He said, from teachers to students his academy has scribes candidates
> of all ages and for various exams.
> Speaking about the fee charged for being the scribe, he said it
> depends on the exam. “While the fee is less for the non-technical
> exams, the fee will be more for technical exams. But don’t worry about
> the fee, we have an installment system also. A candidate can pay even
> after they get a job,” he said.
> ‘NO COMPLAINTS RECEIVED OF SCRIBE BUSINESS’
> The authorities, however, claim to not be aware of any ‘scribe
> business’ going on in exams.
> When News18 contacted the Department of Empowerment of Persons with
> Disabilities, which is 

Re: [AI] Union Access

[Prashant Naik]

Positive Pay is a process of validating/confirming the key details of
cheques to deter Cheque frauds (applicable on high value cheques amounting
Rs 5/- and above). Please refer to the RBI’s circular number RBI/2020-
1/41/DPSS.CO.RPPD.No.309/04.07.2005/2020-21, issued on September 25th , 2020
Customers are requested to submit in advance the key details of cheques
issued to the beneficiaries so that Bank can pass cheque in CTS clearing
without contacting the customers. In case of any mismatch Bank can reject
the cheque or take suitable action to prevent wrong payment or fraud. Banks
have provided various options for customers to avail this facility through
various banking channels such as: Internet Banking, Branch Visit, SMS
Banking and Internet Banking.

Thanks & Regards
Prashant Naik



On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:46 PM kota prabhu  wrote:

> positive pay system is a  security feature introduced to pass high
> value cheques.
> from september, it is optional for the cheques above 50 k  and
> compulsary for above 5l.
> suppose I  draw a  cheque in your name for encashment, if you simply
> give it in your bank, it will not be cleared at clearing house. after
> giving you cheque, I  should additionally confirm it through my
> internet or phone banking.
> this concept is even new to me, i  have told as per my understanding,
> someone may correct me if i  am wrong.
>
> On 15/08/2022, Harish Kotian  wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > What is this Cheque positive ?
> >
> > Can you throw more light.
> >
> > Harish
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14/08/2022 21:30, Rahul Gambhir wrote:
> >> Dear List
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sharing a few successes that Union Access achieved in recent times.
> >>
> >> 1. The latest success is an OTP generation mobile application for
> >> authorizing login/transactions done on Union Bank of India Internet
> >> Banking portal is made fully screen reader friendly for both android and
> >> IOS in user acceptance test phase. Soon its updated version with maximum
> >> accessibility will be made live. It was a great learning experience for
> >> team Union access to work closely with the developers and to get the
> >> remediations implemented.
> >>
> >> 2. Newly added features in the internet banking portal of the Union Bank
> >> of India like deposit print receipt,  Re-KYC, Cheque positive pay system
> >> and Debit card limit are improved for accessibility.
> >>
> >> 3. Bank’s few departments are sensitized and educated to send daily
> >> informative and educative emails with text description for the embedded
> >> images in emails. Also, e-circulars are regularly monitored by the
> >> concerned bank’s team. In case of uploaded scanned image pdf they
> >> immediately flag it for replacement with text searchable pdf format.
> >>
> >> 4. In continuation to Union Access awareness efforts post 600+
> >> probationary officers disability and accessibility sensitization
> sessions,
> >> 1400+ clerks total 18 numbers awareness sessions on disability inclusion
> >> are scheduled by the bank's training college which will be conducted by
> >> team Union Access.
> >>
> >> 5. As part of ongoing Union Access outreach program, we facilitated
> >> opening bank accounts for persons with visual impairment with the
> support
> >> from NGOs, colleagues and branch staff.  Our bank’s visually impaired
> >> employees are equally participating in the bank's aspiration on digital
> >> accessibility enhancement.
> >>
> >> Still, a long way to go as our key focus is on digital banking channels
> >> accessibility improvements.  We are thankful for the support from the
> list
> >> and urge to provide feedback and suggestions to email id
> >> unionacc...@unionbankofindia.bank
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Rahul Gambhir Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12-Aug-2022, at 12:38 PM, rajesh parakh 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> SPLENDID JOB. GREAT INITIATIVE.
> >> REGARDS,
> >> RAJESH PARAKH
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of kota prabhu
> >> Sent: 12 August 2022 00:47
> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Union Access
> >>
> >> thanks for keeping updated us with the activities you are doing on, we
> as
> >> an union bank stake holders and visually impaired, will be always eager
> to
> >> here updates from your team.
> >> appriciations towards your activities and wishing you all the very best.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/07/2022, Prerna Sobti  wrote:
> >>> Great work keep it up cheers and shouts
> >>>
> >>> Prerna Sobti
> >>>
>  On 28-Jul-2022, at 2:28 PM, George Abraham
>  
>  wrote:
> 
>  
>  Splendid work!
> 
>  From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Naik
>  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 1:02 PM
>  To: accessindia
>  Subject: [AI] Union Access
> 
>  Dear Friends
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AI] Airlines that provide assistance

[Anil Kumar]

Hi,

I have travelled 2 or 3  times in Air Asia for last 6 month.  The
experience in terms of support was good.  Even though I had reached
early in Delhi airport when I traveled last month, till boarded in
flight, good care was given to me.

On 8/13/22, Aishwarya Pillai  wrote:
> Hi Prerna, Shankar and Vaibhav,
>
> Thanks a lot guys. What  you shared is certainly helpful. I will go
> ahead with booking one of these airlines.
>
> Aishwarya.
>
> On 8/13/22, Vaibhav Saraf  wrote:
>> +1 with Shankar.
>>
>> I have travelled with Vistara this April, and it was a fine experience.
>> In
>> can tell that Air Asia is only better and more assertive.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 at 05:57,  wrote:
>>
>>> As I observed, almost all the air services will provide the assistance
>>> for
>>> senior citizens and challenged travellers. You must reach their counters
>>> with the help of security team along with your ticket and personal
>>> identity. Incase if the services are denied, rush to airport authorities
>>> for more help.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
>>> Behalf Of Aishwarya Pillai
>>> Sent: 13 August 2022 14:16
>>> To: accessindia 
>>> Subject: [AI] Airlines that provide assistance
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Have any of you travelled alone in 'Go First', 'Air Asia' and 'Vistara'.
>>> I was wondering if the assistance provided is on par with Indigo and
>>> Spice
>>> Jet.  I did travel in the last two and I am sure about them. But I have
>>> no
>>> clue about the others and I am currently to travel and take one of these
>>> flights. Any information will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Aishwarya.
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RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Ved]

There are some pertinent problem while we advocate PC solutions to scribe 
issues.

First, many Visually  Impaired pass school exam through open schooling due to 
their age related issues. They do not have proper schooling. Many of them go to 
such institutions for their basic education which can hardly called schools.

Most of the schools (mostly private residential schools) in U. P. Bihar etc do 
not have enough computers and students do not learn basics of PC.

In short, only urban elites are able to learn computer basics at school levels. 
In such scenario, I think, it is not possible to provide computer solutions to 
those who do not know how to operate them.

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Akash Kakkar
Sent: 15 August 2022 12:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Vaibhav Saraf 
Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 
'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

 

The solution to that problem is dead simple.

Schools, NGOS or other organizations which teach computing to visually 
challenged people include NVDA in their training/teaching curricular as a 
mandatory component.

And yes, this will improve many things fundamentally since people will have to 
get a good grip on screen readers which will be very useful for them in near 
future.

Not only this, Only deserving people will get the chance to prove themselves

On 8/15/2022 9:15 AM, Vaibhav Saraf wrote:

I was having a discussion with Ajay Minocha over a call about the screen reader 
system.

 

The point he highlighted was that we have multiple screen readers, and their 
respective settings. It may happen that our preferred screen reader is not 
there, the settings cannot be changed, or any last minute technical glitch with 
the system, inaccessible platform, among others.

 

While it sounds like the best solution on using one's own system, it might not 
be as easy as using screen readers on a totally alien system in an exam centre. 
A technical issue, few mins wasted, and the candidate will be having a whole 
mental toll.

 

PS - I am not discouraging or against the use of screen readers for exams, but 
bringing a point which is often not discussed. And the screen reader grass 
might not be always green.

 

 

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 22:38, Pranav Lal mailto:pranav@gmail.com> > wrote:

I would go for the computer option any day. It gives us control over what we 
write.

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Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Kunal Mehta]

Point taken about the familiarity with assistive technology / screen readers.

But we do need to start somewhere and offering testing with NVDA is
something that can be done.

I might be a JAWS user, but if I know that I need to take an exam
using NVDA ahead of time, I can practice accordingly.

I know there will be a lot of issues to start with and hence this can
be implemented for a small number of candidates in a phased manner.

We can look at a longer horizon (perhaps even a decade) for a
full-scale implementation.

Thanks,
Kunal

On 8/15/22, Vaibhav Saraf  wrote:
> I was having a discussion with Ajay Minocha over a call about the screen
> reader system.
>
> The point he highlighted was that we have multiple screen readers, and
> their respective settings. It may happen that our preferred screen reader
> is not there, the settings cannot be changed, or any last minute technical
> glitch with the system, inaccessible platform, among others.
>
> While it sounds like the best solution on using one's own system, it might
> not be as easy as using screen readers on a totally alien system in an exam
> centre. A technical issue, few mins wasted, and the candidate will be
> having a whole mental toll.
>
> PS - I am not discouraging or against the use of screen readers for exams,
> but bringing a point which is often not discussed. And the screen reader
> grass might not be always green.
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 at 22:38, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>
>> I would go for the computer option any day. It gives us control over what
>> we write.
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[AI] third informal convening on digital accessibility, Saturday, 20th August, 12 noon

[Mission Accessibility]

Dear Access India Familiy,




 As you had aware, Mission Accessibility had helped organize
an informal convening on digital accessibility in June and July. We are
organizing the third round of the convening this Saturday, 20th August at
12 noon. We will meet in person. if you cannot attend in person, let me
know, and we will send you a link to participate virtually.



The address is different this time. It is:

National Association for the Blind,

Sector-5, RK Puram, New Delhi, India



The agenda will be:

·   Taking stock of the action items and next steps agreed in the
second convening.

·   Finalizing the details of a sector-wide complaint before the CCPD.

·   Mapping out next steps for the upcoming month.



I hope to see you there! In case you have any questions, please feel free
to reach out to me (+91 9890281068) or Ishika Garg (9949359534).



Warmly,

Rahul [also on behalf of Ishika]

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