Re: [AI] Preferential Delivery by BigBasket- Complete Process

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi Asif

Considering the difficulties of disabled persons obtaining provisions in this 
current times, we independently worked up with Bigbasket and worked with them 
the entire process of preferential delivery.

We have no idea of CII or any individuals or NGO's working with them in 
parallel.

We certainly thank everyone involved. What we consider more important is the 
effectiveness of the service rather than ordaining the hat.
Harish
On behalf of BGFI team.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)
Sent: 29 अप्रैल 2020 14:01
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Preferential Delivery by BigBasket- Complete Process

While we appreciate BGFI effort; I would like to state this on record that I, 
being part of CII national skilling of PwD connected to founder of big basket 
through CII subcommittee chairman and they have initiated these measures.
Request BGFI to appreciate colaborative effort and not totally write off effort 
made by other organization.
It is a tough time for all of us and any measures which would improve lives of 
Pwd by any organization is certainly appreciated by the entire community.
thanks and regards
Asif


On 4/29/20, Blind Graduates' Forum of India  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>  BigBasket has introduced priority delivery of groceries for people
> with disabilities (PWD). They are working to enhance experience for
> PWD based on the request from Blind Graduates Forum of India to
> minimize challenges due to lockdown and social distancing measures.
>  Please make note of the process to order below:
> •   Fill your details in this form.
> https://docs.google.noclick_com/forms/d/1P4zm4yvaFwzaSfz9_aQ-DjS2RZky4CeIMOQPf56p9Fo/edit
> •   a BigBasket representative will call and confirm your order
> after you fill the form. There can be a delay for them to call you due
> to high demand. In case you miss the call or if you are not reachable,
> they will reach out to you on your mail ID provided while filling the
> form. So, ensure you mention all your contact details correctly
> • Please   Install the BigBasket app, create your account and
> update your address in advance to ease the process.  They will help
> you over call with it in case required.
> •   You may review products, price, etc. and add the products in
> your cart using the app while you wait for their call. They will help
> you choose products over call in case you need help.
> •   They will a lot a delivery slot for you after you confirm your
> order on call.
> •   Make payment using UPI, Net Banking, card, etc. BigBasket
> recommends to use their wallet for better experience. There is no Cash
> on Delivery option currently.
> •   You will receive confirmation of your order on E-mail / SMS /
> App after you make the payment.
> •   They will notify you in case of any minor modifications in
> your order based on availability of products while processing your
> order.
> •   The delivery executive will call you in case they need help in
> finding your place. Do follow all the social distancing measures while
> receiving your delivery.
> Please note that BigBasket has created this provision exclusively for
> PWD considering the challenges faced. BGFI requests you to be patient
> and respectful as these are challenging times even for the BigBasket
> employees. Do share your feedback with them through the app. BGFI has
> been involved in only making recommendations to address the needs of
> PWD and communicating about the provision. Please get in touch with
> BigBasket for anything. We believe such provisions helps organizations
> learn and enhance the experience for PWD and we appreciate this effort
> by BigBasket.
>  All of us have a role to continue sensitizing and contributing! Stay
> safe, take care and be inclusive.
> Thanks and regards,
> The Blind Graduates Forum of India team
>
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Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People with Disability

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
It is reasonable accessible in Android and web. Less accessible on IOS.
Harish


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)
Sent: 28 अप्रैल 2020 11:15
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People 
with Disability

Hi Harish,
Is it accessible ap? or did you rely on sighted assistance?
Thanks and please advise.
asif

On 4/28/20, Harish Kumar P Kotian  wrote:
> Hi
> I  hope you have installed the app with the same number you have
> filled in the online form.
> I did get a call from them and afterconfirming my registration
> details, They did tell me the time when delivery slots would open. In
> the meantime I had already added to cart the items I required and also
> put enough money in the Bigbasket wallet.
> However, when I tried to grab a delivery slot, it was gone. Later on
> the Bigbasket representative called me again I informed that I could
> not get any delivery slot. She did the needful and made a slot available from 
> her end.
> I shall get my delivery today noon. If it was not for the priority
> effort, I would again fail yesterday.
> The system works for sure for us.
> Harish.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Suna
> Sent: 27 अप्रैल 2020 20:38
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for
> People with Disability
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody succeeded in getting preferential delivery from Bigbasket?
> I had submitted the form but did not get any call from their customer service.
> When I called up the customer service, they told me they do not have
> any policy of preferential delivery to persons with disability/senior 
> citizens.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Blind Graduates' Forum of India" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for
> People with Disability
>
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Facing challenges to buy your groceries due to lock down? Utilize the
>> preferential delivery service introduced by BigBasket for people with
>> disabilities. Blind Graduates Forum of India reached out to BigBasket
>> requesting provisions for customers with disabilities to manage the
>> challenges due to lock down and they wholeheartedly worked to
>> customize the experience for PWD. Fill the below form with your
>> details and a Big Basket representative will call to receive your
>> order. The payment to be done online through the app using available
>> modes like UPI and so on.  Click on the below link to place the order:
>>
>> https://docs.google.noclick_noclick_com/forms/d/1P4zm4yvaFwzaSfz9_aQ-
>> DjS2RZky4CeIMOQPf56p9Fo/edit
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People with Disability

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
I  hope you have installed the app with the same number you have filled in the 
online form.
I did get a call from them and afterconfirming my registration details, They 
did tell me the time when delivery slots would open. In the meantime I had 
already added to cart the items I required and also put enough money in the 
Bigbasket wallet.
However, when I tried to grab a delivery slot, it was gone. Later on the 
Bigbasket representative called me again I informed that I could not get any 
delivery slot. She did the needful and made a slot available from her end.
I shall get my delivery today noon. If it was not for the priority effort, I 
would again fail yesterday.
The system works for sure for us.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Suna
Sent: 27 अप्रैल 2020 20:38
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People 
with Disability

Hi,

Has anybody succeeded in getting preferential delivery from Bigbasket? I had 
submitted the form but did not get any call from their customer service.
When I called up the customer service, they told me they do not have any policy 
of preferential delivery to persons with disability/senior citizens.

- Original Message -
From: "Blind Graduates' Forum of India" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 2:50 PM
Subject: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People with 
Disability


> Dear All,
>
> Facing challenges to buy your groceries due to lock down? Utilize the
> preferential delivery service introduced by BigBasket for people with
> disabilities. Blind Graduates Forum of India reached out to BigBasket
> requesting provisions for customers with disabilities to manage the
> challenges due to lock down and they wholeheartedly worked to
> customize the experience for PWD. Fill the below form with your
> details and a Big Basket representative will call to receive your
> order. The payment to be done online through the app using available
> modes like UPI and so on.  Click on the below link to place the order:
>
> https://docs.google.noclick_com/forms/d/1P4zm4yvaFwzaSfz9_aQ-DjS2RZky4CeIMOQPf56p9Fo/edit
>
>
>
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> www.bgfi.noclick_in
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Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People with Disability

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
The services are available in the following cities.
In which cities big basket is available?
We currently offer our services in Bangalore, Hyderabad, Mumbai, Pune, Chennai, 
Delhi, Noida, Mysore, Coimbatore, Vijayawada-Guntur, Kolkata, 
Ahmedabad-Gandhinagar, Lucknow-Kanpur, Gurgaon, Vadodara, Visakhapatnam, Surat, 
Nagpur, Patna, Indore and Chandigarh Tricity city limits.
The real problem was getting a delivery slots online.


Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: 24 अप्रैल 2020 18:21
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] preferential Delivery Service by BigBasket Only for People 
with Disability

Is this service available in districts of uttar pradesh?

On 4/24/20, Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)  wrote:
> We also from CII reached out to big basket and they have assured
> priority delivery for PwD and Senior citizen.  However their app
> remain inaccessible.
> Thanks and regards
> Asif
>
> On 4/24/20, Ashok Kumar  wrote:
>> thanks team,
>>
>> its a very needy and essential service and i commend you for taking
>> this up.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Ashokkumar.
>>
>> On 4/24/20, Blind Graduates' Forum of India 
>> wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> Facing challenges to buy your groceries due to lock down? Utilize
>>> the preferential delivery service introduced by BigBasket for people
>>> with disabilities. Blind Graduates Forum of India reached out to
>>> BigBasket requesting provisions for customers with disabilities to
>>> manage the challenges due to lock down and they wholeheartedly
>>> worked to customize the experience for PWD. Fill the below form with
>>> your details and a Big Basket representative will call to receive
>>> your order. The payment to be done online through the app using
>>> available modes like UPI and so on.  Click on the below link to place the 
>>> order:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.noclick_com/forms/d/1P4zm4yvaFwzaSfz9_aQ-DjS2RZk
>>> y4CeIMOQPf56p9Fo/edit
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> www.bgfi.noclick_in
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[AI] Moderator: off-topic RE: News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations cut from government staff salaries

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

All
Let us put an end to this thread. It is off-topic.
Harish.
Moderator

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Niranjanraj Urs
Sent: 22 अप्रैल 2020 15:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Cc: Reach Now 
Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations cut from 
government staff salaries

Dears,
Namasthee all. Shri Avinash shahi is certainly not of topic and this news link  
is beneficial to  all AI members, who are GOI employees.
But the fault is the tone and tenor of this particular news report.
The Hindu as a news paper  is prone to providing  news slanted against  BJP 
Government, whether at the Center or in any state where the party is in power. 
This news paper  is habituated to providing  white washed news of state 
governments ruled by Opposition parties and to providing flattering news in 
case of Left ruled state  in particular.
Under the present circumstance, I deem  it the patriotic duty of every 
government employee  to sacrifice  a day's salary every month  during
2020-21 for the sake of the country. It is cheap on the part of a socalled 
'National newspaper"  to  publish such a piece.
I commend Mr Hhahi  for posting news of interest on a regular basis.
 Dr.Niranjan Raj Urs B .
On 4/21/20, pranayarani  wrote:
> don't be illogical! it should be related to the disability sector,
> foolish defending, when the govt is paying salaries even if we don't
> attend office for the whole month, can we not giveup a day's salary
> for the sake of the nation? at this critical times, we should as
> disabilities persons must also
>
> contribut our share.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Aziz Minat" 
> To: "Reach Now" ; "AccessIndia: a list for
> discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled."
> ; "avinash shahi"
> 
> Sent: 21 April, 2020 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations
> cut from government staff salaries
>
>
>>I fully agree with what Rajesh sir said. In the subject line it is
>>clearly  written news of interest. Aren't the differently abled in
>>government  sector? If yes then won't it affect them directly? We
>>should not create  the  binary of black and white in these things.
>>
>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020, 20:08 Reach Now,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For Heaven's sake please do not serve as a deterrence and a
>>> hyperactive barrier to Mr. Avinash Shahi's selfless and honest
>>> efforts to bring relevant information to this platform. Talking
>>> about off topic postings is analogous to opening a proverbial can of
>>> worms. If we get technical about this and begin to cite chapter and
>>> verse about the number of off topic postings on Access India, even
>>> the sky is not the limit. That said, these off topic postings
>>> provide us a wealth of relevant information which may traditionally
>>> remain inaccessible to us for one reason or another.
>>>
>>> Some areas are white, others are black and then there are grey areas
>>> as well. Ours is an inclusive group and therefore if someone wishes
>>> to share with our fraternity information about news related to
>>> disability, its accessibility and technical status not withstanding,
>>> it is no way a cardinal sin. I hope you will accept my
>>> recommendation in the true spirit in which it has been rendered.
>>>
>>> This is the perfect opportunity for me to thank Mr. Shahi for his
>>> insightful postings and references over the past so many years that
>>> has kept professionals like us informed about news items which we
>>> may not have noticed otherwise. Mr. Shahi's subject lines are clear
>>> and concise. If you have no interest in the topic about which he is
>>> volunteering to inform us, a hop and a skip is a click away.
>>>
>>> Rajesh
>>> Noida
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:20:08 +0530
>>> From: "pranayarani" <
>>> pranayara...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled." < accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations
>>> cut from government staff salaries
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>>> 003601d616e0$23d9a5c0$ba00a8c0@RAJATHPC>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> this mail is off-topic.  Also the news item is  inaccurate and biased.
>>> Request the moderater to have a word with the sender of such mail.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "avinash shahi" <
>>> shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "accessindia" <
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: 19 April, 2020 11:38 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] News of Interest: Coronavirus | PM-CARES donations cut
>>> from government staff salaries
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> https://www.thehindu.noclick_com/news/national/coronavirus-pm-cares-
>>> donations-cut-from-government-staff-salaries/article31383279.ece?hom
>>> 

Re: [AI] Laptop problem

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
It may be a problem with the keyboard. Some key may be pressed.
When in a power off state. Press each and every key several times and later on 
boot the laptop.
Harish

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Sent: 17 अप्रैल 2020 22:59
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Laptop problem

Check your hardware, their may be lose contact of your display cable.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020, 10:20 pm Karankumar Gupta, < 
karankumargupta.1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello guys today when I open my laptop, so  in morning at the time of
> browsing, or exploring the PC suddenly I hear the sound of inserting
> pendrive and  disconnecting pendrive.
> and between that time my display was fully blank, and I was not able
> to explore.
> but after sometime I am able to explore my PC, but its happen again
> and again and suddenly started hanging from  morning till night.
> it is   happening continuously, so what will be the problem?
> is there is any solution?
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[AI] Zoom privacy: Vendor faces lawsuits over Facebook data-sharing

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

All
In the present days, many are turning to Zoom.Pl read the article below to take 
an informed judgement.
Harish.
Zoom privacy: Vendor faces lawsuits over Facebook data-sharing

Source:https://searchunifiedcommunications.techtarget.com/news/252480965/Zoom-privacy-Vendor-faces-lawsuit-over-Facebook-data-sharing?track=NL-1817=933353=933353=EM_NLN_125807650_medium=EM_source=NLN_campaign=20200406_Zoom%20faces%20two%20user%20lawsuits%20over%20data%20privacy%20concerns
Jonathan Dame, News Writer
Published: 31 Mar 2020
Two Zoom subscribers have sued the video conferencing company in sperate 
class-action lawsuits, accusing it of sharing user data with Facebook without 
permission.
click xai=AKAOjstyFFQ3oKY5TPTw...
The federal lawsuits, filed Monday and Tuesday, allege Zoom failed to properly 
disclose that its iOS app was transmitting information about users' devices to 
the social media giant.
Zoom released a new version of its client for Apple mobile devices on Friday to 
remove the connection to Facebook. However, users must install the update 
themselves. Before the fix, the app informed Facebook about each user's IP 
address, advertising ID, mobile carrier, device model, iOS version, time zone 
and language settings, among other data, according to the lawsuit.
Zoom said it was unaware Facebook was collecting those metrics before an 
investigation by the news outlet Vice brought the issue to light last week. The 
video conferencing company apologized to customers and said it was reviewing 
its protocols to avoid similar missteps in the future.
Zoom's privacy and security practices have come under increased scrutiny in 
recent weeks. Many new customers have begun using the video conferencing 
product amid the coronavirus pandemic, including universities and K-12 school 
systems.
The New York attorney general's office recently asked Zoom in a letter whether 
it had implemented any new security practices in response to the surge in 
traffic. The office also wanted to know how Zoom prevented hacking, The New 
York Times reported Tuesday.
In a statement, Zoom said it took "users' privacy, security, and trust 
extremely seriously" and would be happy to provide the attorney general's 
office with the requested information.
The letter comes amid reports that uninvited guests have been joining and 
disrupting Zoom meetings, a practice dubbed "Zoombombing."
The vendor has so far responded to the phenomenon by reminding users not to 
share publicly their meeting room codes, which are permanent. Zoom also told 
users they could activate optional controls, including one that lets meeting 
hosts approve attendees before they join.
Meanwhile, Zoom on Sunday updated its privacy policy to be more transparent 
about what customer data it collects and how it uses that information. In a 
blog post announcing the changes, Zoom emphasized that it neither sells user 
data nor monitors the content of meetings held on its platform.
Zoom faces potential class-action lawsuit
Robert Cullen of Sacramento, Calif., and Samuel Taylor of Florida are the 
plaintiffs in the two lawsuits. Both have asked the court to let them bring a 
class action against Zoom, so that other users whose data was shared with 
Facebook could benefit from any settlement. The suits accuse Zoom of violating 
the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) and other state laws. Cullen and 
Taylor both filed in the federal district court for Northern California under a 
national law governing class actions.
Zoom's legal troubles started after it used an iOS software development kit 
(SDK) from Facebook to let users log in to Zoom using their Facebook account. 
The mobile app shared device information with Facebook even if users did not 
have a Facebook account, Vice reported.
Facebook's terms of use for the SDK require partners to disclose that the 
social media company may collect user data for "measurement services and 
targeted ads."
As of March 11, Zoom's privacy policy did not explicitly mention sharing data 
with Facebook in particular, according to a copy available through the Internet 
Archive's Wayback Machine. The document said Zoom and its partners, including 
advertisers, "collect some information about you when you use our products."
Facebook's SDKs have raised privacy concerns in the past. In February 2019, for 
example, The Wall Street Journal reported that some apps were sharing intimate 
details about their users with Facebook through an analytics tool within the 
SDK.
It's common for mobile SDKs to collect data on users' devices, said Alan 
Pelz-Sharpe, founder of research and advisory firm Deep Analysis. Such 
practices have become so ubiquitous that some privacy advocates are now more 
focused on limiting what companies can do with data than on preventing its 
collection.
"This isn't just Zoom. This is pretty much everybody," Pelz-Sharpe said. "This 
is a really awkward topic that tech doesn't want to talk about."
Zoom has faced criticism in the past

[AI] Home automation devices

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

All
The following post from Amar Jain did not make to the list.
Harish

Quoting:
Hi all,

Has anyone on this list explored smart home solutions from lighting, switches, 
and to everything which makes these devices accessible? How reliable are they? 
Economics? O? Energy consumption?

My ability to participate on this list is extremely restricted owing to 
technical circumstances beyond my control, so would request for off the list 
discussion.

Feel free to reach out to me on 
amarj...@amarjain.com / 9892622230.

Regards,
Amar Jain
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Re: [AI] query about ICICi bank account

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
Actually, Banks have been classifying account as visually impaired for a very 
long time now. For this they do not require disability certificate. It is an 
internal process for them to exercise caution.
Moreover, in the account opening form, they make this remark.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Siva Suresh
Sent: 13 March 2020 14:12
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] query about ICICi bank account

can you share the official document containing the same on my mail if not on 
the list?
thank you

On 3/13/20, Harish Kumar P Kotian  wrote:
> All
> Post from Amar Jain which did not get on the list.
> Regards
> Harish Kotian
> Quoting:
> Private banks have got audit observations to obtain medical
> certificate to classify account holders as visually impaired. Which is why 
> this request.
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 6:57 AM George wrote:
> Further I do not think they ask anyone for the medical certificate.
> Why should they ask you? As Harish suggested, send them a mail and let
> them put things in writing.
>
> George
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Harish Kumar P Kotian
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 11:41 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.; an open discussion forum for persons with
> cross disabilities.
> Subject: Re: [AI] query about ICICi bank account
>
> Hi
> Pl don't provide medical certificate. There is no requirement like that.
> Ask  them on email on what basis they require it.
>   Don't entertain such requests on phone call as you cannot document it.
> Mention to them, you can only do that if the request is made on email.
>
> Harish.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Siva Suresh
> Sent: 13 March 2020 09:28
> To: an open discussion forum for persons with cross disabilities.;
> accessindia
> Subject: [AI] query about ICICi bank account
>
> Dear Friends.
> I am in need of your support regarding 1 query. recently i opened an
> account in icici bank because the institution where i am working had
> asked me to get an account in ICICI bank.
> now the problam is they issued chek book, debit card and net banking kit.
> now they are asking for medical certificate saying that the process
> have changed. is there any risk involved in providing medical
> certificate? they kept my account on hold because they need my medical
> certificate as i am a visually impaired.
> please guide me in this regard. its very important as the company is
> using that account to credit my monthly salary. weighting for your
> positive reply.
> Thank you. Shivasuresh
>
> --
> thank you and warm regards.
> shivasuresh.
> reach me through the following means
> mobile no. 9550437181.
> e- mail I D sivasureshka...@gmail.com
> skype I D sivasuresh.katta
> hyderabad
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Re: [AI] query about ICICi bank account

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

All
Post from Amar Jain which did not get on the list.
Regards
Harish Kotian
Quoting:
Private banks have got audit observations to obtain medical certificate to 
classify account holders as visually impaired. Which is why this request.
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 6:57 AM George wrote:
Further I do not think they ask anyone for the medical certificate. Why
should they ask you? As Harish suggested, send them a mail and let them put
things in writing.

George

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Harish Kumar P Kotian
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 11:41 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.; an open discussion forum for persons with cross disabilities.
Subject: Re: [AI] query about ICICi bank account

Hi
Pl don't provide medical certificate. There is no requirement like that.
Ask  them on email on what basis they require it.
  Don't entertain such requests on phone call as you cannot document it.
Mention to them, you can only do that if the request is made on email.

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Siva Suresh
Sent: 13 March 2020 09:28
To: an open discussion forum for persons with cross disabilities.;
accessindia
Subject: [AI] query about ICICi bank account

Dear Friends.
I am in need of your support regarding 1 query. recently i opened an account
in icici bank because the institution where i am working had asked me to get
an account in ICICI bank.
now the problam is they issued chek book, debit card and net banking kit.
now they are asking for medical certificate saying that the process have
changed. is there any risk involved in providing medical certificate? they
kept my account on hold because they need my medical certificate as i am a
visually impaired.
please guide me in this regard. its very important as the company is using
that account to credit my monthly salary. weighting for your positive reply.
Thank you. Shivasuresh

--
thank you and warm regards.
shivasuresh.
reach me through the following means
mobile no. 9550437181.
e- mail I D sivasureshka...@gmail.com
skype I D sivasuresh.katta
hyderabad




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Re: [AI] News of interest: Gareema Bangad reports: ‘Charitable institutions are over-regulated in India’

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi

In my understanding,an NGO cannot be closed or terminated by themselves. 
Probably it is for this reason, reregistration is required every 5 years.
Legal experts may fill in. What is the deregistration process? Logically there 
should be a sun set provision.



Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 12 March 2020 12:11
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] News of interest: Gareema Bangad reports: ‘Charitable 
institutions are over-regulated in India’

 their registration every five years through an amendment to the Income Tax Act 
came under criticism at a public meeting in the city on Wednesday.
https://www.thehindu.noclick_com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-mumbai/charitable-institutions-are-over-regulated-in-india/article31046373.ece
Experts and representatives from various trusts and non-government 
organisations participated in the event organised by The Association for 
Protection of Public Trusts and Charities. They have decided to present a 
memorandum to Union Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman expressing their 
grievances.

Ms. Sitharaman had proposed substantial amendments for granting exemptions to 
charitable and religious trusts in the Union Budget 2020. Under the new tax 
regime, the Finance Minister proposed to introduce Section 12AB to grant 
registration to charitable institutions, enabling them to claim exemption under 
Section 11 of the Act.

All charitable institutions, including those registered under Sections 12AA or 
12A, will now have to make a fresh application for registration on or before 
August 31 to be eligible to claim the exemption. On receiving the application, 
the Principal Commissioner of Income Tax or the Commissioner can grant 
registration to the trusts under Section 12AB, after carrying out the required 
examination. The registration granted after the examination will be valid only 
for five years.

“The amendments are very few, but have far-reaching implications,”
said senior advocate Firoze Andhyarujina. The most crucial issue, he said, was 
the requirement for charitable institutions to make a fresh application for 
re-registration at the end of five years. “The other major issue is the 
confusion as to the role of the assessing officer in determining the object of 
the institution. The proposed amendments do not clearly state whether the 
registration granted will be valid till the end of the assessment year or the 
financial year after completion of five years,” Mr. Andhyarujina said.

Chief executive, Centre for Advancement of Philanthropy, Noshir Dadrawala, said 
charitable institutions and trusts are the most over-regulated sector in India.

Chartered accountant Viren Merchant questioned the need to renew the 
registration every five years. “If companies are not required to re-register, 
then why do charitable institutions need to do so? When clauses for 
cancellation of registration and scrutiny assessment exist, then what is the 
need to re-register?” he asked.


If companies are not required to re-register, then why do charitable 
institutions need to?

Viren Merchant

Chartered accountant

--
सादर/ Regards

अविनाश शाही/ Avinash Shahi
सहायक/ Assistant
मानव संसाधन प्रबंध विभाग/ Human Resource Management Department भारतीय रिजर्व 
बैंक/ Reserve Bank of India लखनऊ क्षेत्रीय कार्यालय/Lucknow RO विस्तार/ 
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Re: [AI] Fwd: Seeking suggestions for assistive aids you can't do without!

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi Vaishnavi

This is indeed a commendable effort. It is very important to mainstream 
accessibility products as it is both beneficial to the end users and the 
producers.

Although this is a step in the right direction, it would be better if these 
products are further categorised on disability based.
There are very few products for the blind and it takes a very long time going 
through each of them.
The number of products available under this initiative is good.
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vaishnavi Jayakumar
Sent: 12 March 2020 18:31
To: AccessIndia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Fwd: Seeking suggestions for assistive aids you can't do without!

-- Forwarded message -
From: Disability Rights Alliance, INDIA < disabilityrightsalliance...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar, 2020, 4:23 am
Subject: Seeking suggestions for assistive aids you can't do without!
To: Egroup DRA , YG TN Dis Rights 
, WE the PwD Egroup < 
wethe...@googlegroups.com>, in-tn 


Hi!


Have a disability? With the right kind of aid, the possibilities can be endless 
to live life fully. Chennai's Museum of Possibilities 

hopes to showcase assistive aids, adaptive hacks and rehab technologies to open 
up a world beyond limitations. Located at Disability Commissioner's 
beach-facing office, the 164.65 sq m hall area will broadly comprise 3 zones - 
LIVE, WORK & PLAY.

The *LIVE* zone will incorporate accessibility features that could be 
implemented in even the smallest TNSCB flat. The *WORK* zone will mostly be 
office-based with a few NREGA tools in the garden outside.* PLAY* includes 
entertainment.

After brainstorming (see mindmap below) the museum is slowly taking shape.


While we have directories of assistive aids 
, 
we are crowdseeking your top 5 suggestions on *Museum of Possibilities Idea
List* (For convenience it's on Amazon - Amazon's Idea lists feature isn't 
collaborative yet, so a wishlist it is. Ignore the prices - this is *just to 
get an idea of what you'd like featured - something indispensable that helps 
you live life with your disability.* It's most likely not listed on Amazon, in 
which case just click the* 'ADD IDEA TO LIST'* button and type it in)


*So get started - Closing date is ** Sunday 15th March 2020.* View list 
 - No 
Amazon account needed. Just added some random stuff for people to get started


Add to list
- 
Amazon account needed.


If 
this is too complicated for you, please just email DRA 
 after checking out the curated 
directories of assistive aids 
.

Thanks!

TEAM DRA
 
& TEAM TARA 




*MUSEUM OF POSSIBILITY MINDMAP*


   - Sambhav
    
++
   on steroids!
   - A space designed to attract manufacturers
   - Design and structuring of domains -
   - Independent living (Living room, Kitchen, bedroom and bathroom) -
   Covering all ADLs and IADLs.
   - Leisure (Garden, sports and music)
   - Education
   - AAC
   - Vocational
   - Work space
   - Transport (Accessible parking space)
   - Mobility aids
   - Livelihood products
   - Accessible medical equipment
   - Research & incubation cell - first look trial,
   - Video room- demonstrating inventions and aids
   - Online interface to buy items that are displayed (App- domain specific)
   - Posters and wall murals - History of disability, timelines, maps etc,.
   - Information kiosk
   - Separate space to accommodate portable aids (foldable ramps) and
   storage
   - Location map for the entire space at the entrance
   - Curated thematic exhibitions - revolve 'stock' / donated devices



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Re: [AI] query about ICICi bank account

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
Pl don't provide medical certificate. There is no requirement like that.
Ask  them on email on what basis they require it.
  Don't entertain such requests on phone call as you cannot document it.
Mention to them, you can only do that if the request is made on email.

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Siva Suresh
Sent: 13 March 2020 09:28
To: an open discussion forum for persons with cross disabilities.; accessindia
Subject: [AI] query about ICICi bank account

Dear Friends.
I am in need of your support regarding 1 query. recently i opened an account in 
icici bank because the institution where i am working had asked me to get an 
account in ICICI bank.
now the problam is they issued chek book, debit card and net banking kit. now 
they are asking for medical certificate saying that the process have changed. 
is there any risk involved in providing medical certificate? they kept my 
account on hold because they need my medical certificate as i am a visually 
impaired.
please guide me in this regard. its very important as the company is using that 
account to credit my monthly salary. weighting for your positive reply.
Thank you. Shivasuresh

--
thank you and warm regards.
shivasuresh.
reach me through the following means
mobile no. 9550437181.
e- mail I D sivasureshka...@gmail.com
skype I D sivasuresh.katta
hyderabad




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Re: [AI] Regarding inability of a colleague in joining this list

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
Yes, there is a problem on subscription.
You may ask her to drop a mail on my ID:
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Hi people, as the subject line suggests, one of my colleague is trying to 
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Re: [AI] Tablet

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
Having used both IOS and Android and Ipad specifically, Ipad is rugged. on 
accessibility or usability there is not much difference.
I presume you are using Android device. You can consider Ipad to obtain a first 
hand feel of IOS.
If you don't have the time or inclination to make yourself at home on a 
different Os then, you can go for an Android tablet.

Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
rahul agarwal
Sent: 09 March 2020 11:54
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Tablet

Thanks Harish
I am little bit confuse now because I have read some articles on Google and if 
you read the comments of people on the access India they all are suggesting to 
buy iPad because it is better than android one Can you give more insight about 
it?

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 10:53 AM, Harish Kumar P Kotian 
wrote:

> Hi
> In terms of accessibility, tablet is not much different than the phone.
> Whatever OS you are comfortable with you can go for it.
> You also have the choice of broadening your choice for selecting the
> OS different than that of your phone.
> It is not really very difficult to use multiple OS, more or less the
> usability is similar.
>
> As Ajay touched blue-tooth keyboard is a good add on.
> Harish.
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> Sent: 08 March 2020 23:35
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Tablet
>
> Thanks Ajay
>
> On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 11:28 PM, Ajay Minocha 
> wrote:
>
> > From my experience of knowing you, Ipad would be more suitable for
> > you. You can buy a keyboard case and also use like a laptop in
> > certain situations.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ajay
> >
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> > >> iPad is far better than any other Android tablet.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 1:03 PM rahul agarwal 
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> > >> > Hi guys
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Re: [AI] Tablet

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
In terms of accessibility, tablet is not much different than the phone.
Whatever OS you are comfortable with you can go for it.
You also have the choice of broadening your choice for selecting the OS 
different than that of your phone.
It is not really very difficult to use multiple OS, more or less the usability 
is similar.

As Ajay touched blue-tooth keyboard is a good add on.
Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
rahul agarwal
Sent: 08 March 2020 23:35
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Tablet

Thanks Ajay

On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 11:28 PM, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

> From my experience of knowing you, Ipad would be more suitable for
> you. You can buy a keyboard case and also use like a laptop in certain
> situations.
>
> Cheers,
> Ajay
>
> On 08/03/2020, rahul agarwal  wrote:
> > Thanks Sanchit
> > Guys I am looking for more response
> >
> > On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 2:03 PM, Sanchit Katiyar <
> sanchitkatiya...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> iPad is far better than any other Android tablet.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 1:03 PM rahul agarwal 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi guys
> >> > I need a hel I want to buy a tablet but I am confuse With which
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[AI] Moderator: off-topic- RE: Report in everybody's interest: The end of the handshake: saying hello during the coronavirus outbreak

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Friends
Can we please stop this thread. It is going beyond its scope.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 04 March 2020 10:19
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Report in everybody's interest: The end of the handshake: 
saying hello during the coronavirus outbreak

Sir, there is a difference between religion and dharma. like difference between 
English culture and English language. religion word came from church, resulting 
to confrontation between many European kingdoms and churches.




-Original Message-
From: Rajesh Hardayaldas Asudani
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 10:03 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Report in everybody's interest: The end of the handshake:
saying hello during the coronavirus outbreak

Please let religion be stopped from poking its head everywhere.
It has got so many things wrong that if by chance it happens to say something 
right, it provokes laughter.


Moreover, as a blind person, I always prefer a handshake to namaskar, though
it is almost a taboo in our Indian culture colored head to toe in religion
and though it may give me some  virus by the way.
Smile.

Actually, why are we converting AI into sayeverything, anyway?
By replying to this thread, I am guilty too.

So, excuse me moderator, sorry.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: 03 March 2020 22:43
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Report in everybody's interest: The end of the handshake:
saying hello during the coronavirus outbreak

The Sanatan Dharma has been talking about the importance of a namaste or
prannaam from the very beginning, no wonder our ancestors had opened
universities like Taxila and Nalanda where the entire world gained knowledge
and wisdom.

On 3/3/20, George Abraham  wrote:
> Serious stuff! Very relevant for the present times.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of avinash shahi
> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 10:09 AM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Report in everybody's interest: The end of the handshake:
> saying hello during the coronavirus outbreak
>
> Say no to a handshake, give up high fives, refuse kisses on the cheek
> and definitely avoid hugging.
> https://www.theguardian.noclick_noclick_com/world/2020/mar/03/the-end-of-the-h
> andshake-saying-hello-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak
> All around the world people are changing their daily habits at work
> and at home to reduce the risk of contracting the coronavirus and
> prevent it from spreading.
>
> Here are some of the ways that habits are changing around the world.
>
> China
> In Beijing, the capital of the country where the outbreak began, red
> billboards tell people not to shake hands but to join their own hands
> together in a sign of greeting.
>
> Loudspeakers tell people to make the traditional gong shou gesture (a
> fist in the opposite palm) to say hello.
> France
> Newspapers have been filled with advice over how to replace
> handshaking – a daily formality for the French at work and kissing on
> the cheek, a regular greeting habit in France even between people who have
> only just met.
>
> Lifestyle expert Philippe Lichtfus, who has been widely cited in the
> media, insists that handshakes are a relatively recent development in
> human history that began in the Middle Ages.
>
> He says simply looking into a person’s eyes can suffice as a greeting.
>
> Australia
> Brad Hazzard, the New South Wales health minister, advised people not
> to shake hands and instead give each other a pat on the back. “I won’t
> say don’t kiss” he said, “but you could be exercising a degree of care
> and caution with whom you choose to kiss.”
>
> Brazil
> The Brazilian health ministry has recommended that citizens not share
> the metal straws traditionally used to consume the caffeine-rich South
> American drink mate, also known as chimarrão.
>
> And a kiss – even if it is not on the mouth – is totally advised against.
>
> Germany
> In a sign of the times, Germany’s interior minister Horst Seehofer
> rebuffed Chancellor Angela Merkel’s attempt to shake hands with him on
> Monday, smiling and keeping both his hands to himself.
>
> They both laughed and Merkel threw her hand up in the air before
> taking a seat.
>
> Spain
> The outbreak could also hit one of Spain’s most cherished traditions –
> the kissing of sculptures of the Virgin Mary in the week leading up to
> Easter.
>
> With just a month to go before the week starts, the ritual could be
> banned.
> “It is one of the measures that is on the table,” said national health
> official Fernando 

[AI] Moderator: piracy- RE: Irritant with NVDA voice

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

All
It seems so, agree this is not in keeping with the list guidelines.
No more traffic on this thread please.

Regards
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Satguru Rathi
Sent: 14 February 2020 11:00
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Irritant with NVDA voice

Hi,


Though Eloquence is no longer being developed, and previous one being offered 
by the same site too, was not an authorized one, I wonder if this can be 
considered as valid one as this is a modded version of the previous Eloquence 
by the same people and may violate the copyright laws. Using it or not is a 
personal choice but sharing it on the group needs to be re-thought.



With best regards,
Satguru Rathi
Mobile: +919871489945, +919315516985

On 13-02-2020 06:35 pm, B. R. Nautial wrote:
> Hello Sir!
> You can download the latest IBM synthasizer through the given link.
> you need to install the same like earlier eloquence.
> https://drive.google.noclick_com/uc?id=1yTD174vaMapYHJ_ixxHTeXmCFTCOAb
> z1=download
>
> - Original Message - From: "Harish Kumar P Kotian"
> 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled." 
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:25 AM
> Subject: [AI] Irritant with NVDA voice
>
>
>> All
>> Pl find below a post from George which did not get on the list.
>> I am also responding with  inline.
>> Harish.
>>
>> Quoting:
>> Just yesterday, I believe the latest update from NVDA was released. I
>> downloaded the same and installed. I was surprise when the
>> voice/speech had dramatically dropped in quality. No idea how I can
>> restore the earlier voice quality. Presently it is quite an irritant
>> to use NVDA. Any way out?
>>  It is because most of the plugins have to be updated. You may
>> change the TTS to Windows Core voice for the present until there is
>> clarity and fix for the add-ons.
>> Harish
>>
>> George Abraham
>> CEO
>> Score Foundation
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Re: [AI] Tirupathi tirumala devesthana facilities for VI persons

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
When I went in December last year, the special queue was in the morning. I 
missed it.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Saravanan
Sent: 13 February 2020 10:21
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Tirupathi tirumala devesthana facilities for VI persons

Dear Friends,

Does any of our friends visited Tirumala recently.
How about the facilities offered by TTD committee for us.
I am planning to go there very soon.
How about the room booking procedures for us there.
How many days we can stay there.
Is there any special darshan arrangements for pwd persons.
I also want to know the nearby temples & places to visit there.
I am waiting for your valuable inputs.
Thanks in advance
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402




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[AI] Irritant with NVDA voice

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

All
Pl find below a post from George which did not get on the list.
I am also responding with  inline.
Harish.

Quoting:
Just yesterday, I believe the latest update from NVDA was released. I 
downloaded the same and installed. I was surprise when the voice/speech had 
dramatically dropped in quality. No idea how I can restore the earlier voice 
quality. Presently it is quite an irritant to use NVDA. Any way out?
 It is because most of the plugins have to be updated. You may change the 
TTS to Windows Core voice for the present until there is clarity and fix for 
the add-ons.
Harish

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[AI] Mobile banking apps

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

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The following mail from George did not get on the list. Copying it below.
Harish Kotian
Quoting:
Hi All,

I have filed  a case in the Delhi HC regarding inaccessible digital hardware 
and apps including the touch screen POS machines.

Across this list, I am sure people are using the mobile apps for various banks 
and E-wallets.

It would be very useful if you could share with me the names of the apps you 
use with regards banking and E-payments with the comment whether they are 
accessible or not.

For example I have found the mobile app from ICICI bank inaccessible.

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Best,

George


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Re: [AI] No fundamental right to claim reservation, State not bound to provide reservation in promotion: SC

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi Subash
That was a very nice and clear interpretation. Nice to note that it does not 
hamper the new judgement on reservation for the disabled on promotion.

Taking this argument forward, the deduction relief in 80 U of IT should 
therefore continue in the new IT relief in the new regime. What about it?
Your thoughts.
Harish Kotian


From: SC Vashishth [mailto:subhashvashis...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 February 2020 12:11
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Cc: Harish Kumar P Kotian
Subject: Re: [AI] No fundamental right to claim reservation, State not bound to 
provide reservation in promotion: SC

Dear Harish,

I feel the reservation in promotion in favour of SC and ST etc and reservation 
in favour of persons with disabilities are  two completely different matters. 
The SC in recent judgement in Siddaraju Vs. State of Karnataka & Ors has amply 
clarified this difference and how the limitation set by Indira Sawhney 
judgement doesn't apply to promotion in reservation for people with 
disabilities. SC had indicated in the order  “A perusal of Indra Sawhney would 
reveal that the ceiling of 50% reservation applies only to reservation in 
favour of Other Backward Classes under Article 16(4) of the Constitution of 
India whereas the reservation in favour of persons with disabilities is 
horizontal, which is under Article 16(1) of the Constitution.”

Therefore, a preferential treatment on the basis of disability duly supported 
by the Disability laws is valid and can not be equated with preferential 
treatment on the basis of caste or religion. But sadly the bureaucracy had with 
its understanding of Art 16 and selective interpretation of Indira Sawhney 
judgement, changed the language about reservation in promotion in the RPwD Act 
2016 and left it to the States to take a call on the reservation.

I feel the essence of UNCRPD, which is sought to be implemented through the new 
RPwD Act is ignored when an existing relief or better provision is taken away 
in the name of CRPD implementation. Article 4(4) o CRPD specifically provides 
as under:

"4. Nothing in the present Convention shall affect any provisions which are 
more conducive to the realization of the rights of persons with disabilities 
and which may be contained in the law of a State Party or international law in 
force for that State. There shall be no restriction upon or derogation from any 
of the human rights and fundamental freedoms recognized or existing in any 
State Party to the present Convention pursuant to law, conventions, regulation 
or custom on the pretext that the present."

Thus the new RPwD Act provisions can not take away the right to reservation in 
promotion that existed in the PWD Act 1995 in the garb of implementing CRPD. 
This must be continued in favour of the people with disabilities as it existed 
to be in compliance with article 4(4) of the convention as above.

Hope this clears the air.

regards

Subhash Chandra Vashishth
Advocate



On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 10:44, Harish Kumar P Kotian 
mailto:hpkot...@rbi.org.in>> wrote:
Hi
I understand, there is a catch here. As per this judgement, the state 
government has to notify reservation in promotion. It could also hold good for 
us and I don't think any state government will not bother to do it for us as we 
are not a vote bank.

Legal experts may throw more light and their opinion.
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in>]
 On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
Sent: 08 February 2020 22:20
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] No fundamental right to claim reservation, State not bound to 
provide reservation in promotion: SC

No fundamental right to claim reservation, State not bound to provide 
reservation in promotion: SC  New Delhi, list of 2 items  Feb 07 2020, 19:11pm 
ist
updated: Feb 07 2020, 21:09pm ist
list end
Reuters file photo
Reuters file photo
Highlights: Article 16 (4) and (4-A) (reservation in promotion) is clear which 
mean inadequacy of representation is a matter within subjective satisfaction of 
State State can form its own opinion on the basis of material through a 
Commission or Committee, person or authority The data to be collected is only 
to justify reservation in appointment or promotion to public posts Data 
collection on inadequate representation of SC/STs is a pre requisite and is not 
required when the state government decided not to provide reservations

In a significant judgement, the Supreme Court on Friday said an individual 
cannot claim reservation as a fundamental right and the government is not bound 
to provide quota in promotion for the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe 
employees in public jobs.

A bench of Justices L Nageswara Rao and Hemant Gupta said Articles 16
(4) and 16 (4-A) of the Consti

Re: [AI] For George's case against RBI

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi Kanchan
I suppose, it is a little different in this scenario. We have only Fastag which 
has no cash mandate. In all other situation we can transact in cash presently.
What is demanded in this petition is to make the POS accessible.
This can be helpful to the extent that we are fast going cashless.

Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 08 February 2020 12:25
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: [AI] For George's case against RBI

George you  may want to share this with your lawyer.

Amar and Pranav, this may help your arguments on the POS machines

BGFI, will help the advocacy with the RBI.





Why American cities are stopping stores from going cashless

Printed from NEW YORK: New York City lawmakers voted on Thursday to require 
stores and restaurants to accept cash for payment, saying businesses that 
accept only credit and debit cards are discriminating against New Yorkers who 
lack bank accounts and credit cards. "This practice punishes the underbanked," 
city council speaker Corey Johnson said before the council's
43-3 vote in favour of the bill. Under the bill, businesses that refuse cash 
will be fined $1,000 for the first violation and $1,500 after that. The 
measure, which is expected to go into effect by the end of the year, also 
prohibits stores from charging higher prices for paying in cash. Backers of the 
cashless model say the benefits include greater efficiency and eliminating the 
risk of theft, but opponents say millions of Americans still rely on cash. 
Philadelphia became the first US city to ban cashless stores last year. San 
Francisco and New Jersey passed similar measures soon after.
Only one jurisdiction required businesses to accept cash before 2019:
Massachusetts, which passed a law nearly 40 years ago. Backers of the New York 
City bill said that hundreds of thousands of city residents don't have bank 
accounts or credit cards and that others simply prefer to use cash.
"Whatever your reasons, consumers should have the power to choose their 
preferred method of payment," City councilman Ritchie Torres said.
Councilman Kalman Yeger, a Brooklyn Democrat, said that businesses should 
accept cash but that the local government shouldn't force them to. But some 
businesses that will be affected by the no cash ban said they will follow the 
law when it is enacted. "We are proud to do business in NYC and will of course 
comply with all NYC laws and statutes," Nick Marsh, CEO of Founders Table, 
parent company of the Chopt Creative Salad Co. and Dos Toros Taqueria chains, 
said in a statement. A company spokeswoman said six of New York City's 18 Chopt 
locations and all of its 17 Dos Toros locations are currently cashless.






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Re: [AI] ब्रेल स्क्रिप्ट उप्लब्ध नही थी

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
Did you make a complaint to the polling officer for not providing the Braille 
sheet of candidates?
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
mahesh kumar
Sent: 08 February 2020 19:07
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] ब्रेल स्क्रिप्ट उप्लब्ध नही थी

प्रिय दोस्तों!
आज मैंने अपने मताधिकार का प्रयोग किया पर बूथ  नं। 140 जो गगन भारती स्कूल 
ओम्विहार उत्तम नगर दिल्ली 110059 मएन स्थित था।

वहां चुनाव प्रत्याशियों के नाम ब्रेल लिपि में लिखे हूए कोई पेपर उप्लब्ध नहिं 
था।  यह द्रष्टि दिव्यांगों के प्रती चुनाव अधिकारियों की उदासीनता का परिचायक है

महेश कुमार
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Re: [AI] No fundamental right to claim reservation, State not bound to provide reservation in promotion: SC

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
I understand, there is a catch here. As per this judgement, the state 
government has to notify reservation in promotion. It could also hold good for 
us and I don't think any state government will not bother to do it for us as we 
are not a vote bank.

Legal experts may throw more light and their opinion.
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vikas Kapoor
Sent: 08 February 2020 22:20
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] No fundamental right to claim reservation, State not bound to 
provide reservation in promotion: SC

No fundamental right to claim reservation, State not bound to provide 
reservation in promotion: SC  New Delhi, list of 2 items  Feb 07 2020, 19:11pm 
ist
updated: Feb 07 2020, 21:09pm ist
list end
Reuters file photo
Reuters file photo
Highlights: Article 16 (4) and (4-A) (reservation in promotion) is clear which 
mean inadequacy of representation is a matter within subjective satisfaction of 
State State can form its own opinion on the basis of material through a 
Commission or Committee, person or authority The data to be collected is only 
to justify reservation in appointment or promotion to public posts Data 
collection on inadequate representation of SC/STs is a pre requisite and is not 
required when the state government decided not to provide reservations

In a significant judgement, the Supreme Court on Friday said an individual 
cannot claim reservation as a fundamental right and the government is not bound 
to provide quota in promotion for the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe 
employees in public jobs.

A bench of Justices L Nageswara Rao and Hemant Gupta said Articles 16
(4) and 16 (4-A) of the Constitution empowered the State to make reservation in 
matters of appointment and promotion in favour of the Scheduled Castes and 
Scheduled Tribes “if in its opinion, they are not adequately represented in the 
services”.

The top court said it was for the state government to decide whether 
reservations were required in the matter of appointment and promotions to 
public posts.

“In view of the law laid down by this court, there is no doubt that the state 
government is not bound to make reservations. There is no fundamental right 
which inheres in an individual to claim reservation in promotions. No mandamus 
can be issued by the court directing the state government to provide 
reservations,”
the bench held.

The top court relied upon the Constitution bench judgements in Indra Sawhney 
(1992), M Nagaraj (2006) and Jarnail Singh (2018) and Suresh Chand Gautam
(2016) cases, among others, to set aside the Uttarakhand HC's directions issued 
on July 15, 2019 to the state government to implement reservations in promotion.

The HC's direction for filling up all future vacancies in post of Assistant 
Engineers in PWD from the members of SC/STs was “wholly unjustifiable”, it said.

The bench found the HC's direction to collect quantifiable data was “wholly 
unnecessary”, since the state government took a conscious decision not to 
provide reservation in promotions.

The court said since the State was not bound to provide reservations in 
promotions, it was not required to justify its decision on the basis of 
quantifiable data, showing adequate representation of members of the Scheduled 
Castes and Schedules Tribes in its services.

“Even if the under-representation of Scheduled Castes and Schedules Tribes in 
public services is brought to the notice of this court, no mandamus can be 
issued to the state government to provide reservation,” it said.

https://www.deccanherald.noclick_com/national/sedition-charges-being-distributed-freely-like-prasad-says-kanhaiya-kumar-802661.html

--
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Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
I fully endorse. Knocking the door of the judiciary is not an option for all. 
However, dropping a mail for our cause is certainly doable. Firstly it is 
important to take ownership in working for the cause individually. NGO's should 
be also pressurised to take up issues which matters for us in large.

It is not wise for individuals to wait for NGO's to do something for us. When 
we are empowered, we should exercise it.
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: 07 February 2020 07:09
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point 
of sale terminals

We should continue putting pressure on the RBI with our mail. RBI needs to 
realise that nothing should be out in the public domain that is inaccessible. 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Pranav Lal
Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 6:55 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point 
of sale terminals

Thanks George. Do we continue sending e-mail to the RBI or do we leave things 
to the courts so that action is consolidated?

Pranav






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Re: [AI] Delhi elections candidate list in EVM order - please share widely

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi Vaishnavi
Efforts of your team is much commendable. Delhi Folks, do vote in good numbers.

Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vaishnavi Jayakumar
Sent: 07 February 2020 10:22
To: AccessIndia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Delhi elections candidate list in EVM order - please share widely

Blind voters who don't use Braille, here's the candidate list in EVM order for 
Delhi 2020 elections, constituency wise in both Hindi and English.

Http://bit.noclick_ly/elections-form7a

It's a more usable version (of the unaltered original from the Chief Electoral 
Officer, Delhi website) brought to you by team Dra India.

Do share widely.

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Re: [AI] asking a good software to read epub

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
In that case you need to check out in plug in's of Crome and Firefox.
It may be available there. InCrome there is plugin for Epub, I think it is 
called Simple Epub. Haven't checked lately as I don't use these other formats.

Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
anirudh rao
Sent: 06 February 2020 22:52
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] asking a good software to read epub

well do we have any browser based software that would cater to support many 
ebook formats like .mobi, .epub, .lit, .djvu etc?

On 2/6/20, Harish Kumar P Kotian  wrote:
> Hi
> If you are using the desktop running Windows 10 you can also use the
> Microsoft Edge browser. It supports Epub.
> Regards
> Harish.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of anirudh rao
> Sent: 06 February 2020 14:09
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] asking a good software to read epub
>
> no I have tried many softwares.
> I did not have the luck with adobi digital edition.
> you can't access the features of your screen readers like alt+down
> arrow to read a sentence in Adobi digital edition.
> one more defect is that, it supports only two formats such as .epub
> and .pdf.
> I have not tried Vital source bookshelf though.
> is it a browser based software?
>
> On 2/6/20, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Vital source bookshelf or even Adobe digital edition would do
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Feb, 2020, 9:48 AM anirudh rao, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> --
>>> "every human is disabled because, none has got the wings to fly".
>>> Anirudh Rao
>>> your intellectual comrade.
>>> call/whatsapp  me at 8277012082
>>> join on Skype: anirudhrao3
>>> if you just wish to be a facebook friend:
>>> click
>>>
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>>> 000514812
>>> 5152%3A15148125152%3A1563341090=17
>>> and send a request.
>>> Thank you
>>> Anirudh Rao.
>>>
>>> dear access indians,
>>> let me make it veri clear that I am a bookworm.
>>> I believe that the large wealth of information that is available
>>> through the books should not be a miss for the blind.
>>> though the advent of electronic books has become a boon for the
>>> blind community, the inavailability of the properly accessible
>>> software is a bane for us.
>>> there are some softwares which say that they manage the e-books are
>>> inaccessible being too graphical.
>>> and one's which are created specially for the blind have other
>>> problems such as inability to support a large variety of formats.
>>> which support a few formats are not browser-based and we cannot
>>> avail the fecilities that are offered by the screen-readers like
>>> navigating sentence by sentence/paragraphs.
>>> so, I need a browser-based software to read in my computer.
>>> the support for a large variety is a plus.
>>> I welcome your opinion on the matter.
>>> thank you
>>> Anirudh Rao
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] Online course opportunities (no subject)

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
You can get your mobile to take it from here. You can focus your phone camera 
on your screen and try to OCR it with whatever tools you have access to. 
Failing , you can seek virtual assistance on tools like BeMyEyes etc.
Harish.


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Santhosh Dhavane
Sent: 05 February 2020 13:47
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Online course opportunities (no subject)

But can anybody tell me the troubleshooting with screen reader when system is 
not responding or else screen reader stopped working

On Wed 5 Feb, 2020, 10:40 AM Binni Kumari, 
wrote:

> Hi Santosh,
> You should approach Narendr in EnAble India. To get in touch you can
> call on 080-67323636. You can tell that Binni has suggested you to get
> in touch with him on online course in Advance Excel.
>
>
> On 2/4/20, Santhosh Dhavane  wrote:
> > Hi dear all I am Santosh here from Karnataka I want to learn
> > advanced
> excel
> > and Microsoft office in online itself because I can't afford to go
> > any institute and learn there because of my illness so I want to
> > continue my career through learning online and as well as I have
> > other question that
> is
> > how to troubleshoot the issue if screen reader is not working for
> > screen reader will turn on at the same time how a visually impaired
> > can troubleshoot such issues thanks and regards
> >
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Re: [AI] asking a good software to read epub

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
If you are using the desktop running Windows 10 you can also use the Microsoft 
Edge browser. It supports Epub.
Regards
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
anirudh rao
Sent: 06 February 2020 14:09
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] asking a good software to read epub

no I have tried many softwares.
I did not have the luck with adobi digital edition.
you can't access the features of your screen readers like alt+down arrow to 
read a sentence in Adobi digital edition.
one more defect is that, it supports only two formats such as .epub and .pdf.
I have not tried Vital source bookshelf though.
is it a browser based software?

On 2/6/20, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Vital source bookshelf or even Adobe digital edition would do
>
> On Thu, 6 Feb, 2020, 9:48 AM anirudh rao, 
> wrote:
>
>> --
>> "every human is disabled because, none has got the wings to fly".
>> Anirudh Rao
>> your intellectual comrade.
>> call/whatsapp  me at 8277012082
>> join on Skype: anirudhrao3
>> if you just wish to be a facebook friend:
>> click
>>
>> https://m.facebook.noclick_com/anirudh.rao.7731/about?lst=1514812
>> 5152%3A15148125152%3A1563341090=17
>> and send a request.
>> Thank you
>> Anirudh Rao.
>>
>> dear access indians,
>> let me make it veri clear that I am a bookworm.
>> I believe that the large wealth of information that is available
>> through the books should not be a miss for the blind.
>> though the advent of electronic books has become a boon for the blind
>> community, the inavailability of the properly accessible  software is
>> a bane for us.
>> there are some softwares which say that they manage the e-books are
>> inaccessible being too graphical.
>> and one's which are created specially for the blind have other
>> problems such as inability to support a large variety of formats.
>> which support a few formats are not browser-based and we cannot avail
>> the fecilities that are offered by the screen-readers like navigating
>> sentence by sentence/paragraphs.
>> so, I need a browser-based software to read in my computer.
>> the support for a large variety is a plus.
>> I welcome your opinion on the matter.
>> thank you
>> Anirudh Rao
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Anirudh Rao
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Re: [AI] Quregarding Bose Frame Sunglasses

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
I guess, it won't block ambient noise, all the same, pl do confirm.
Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aditya Garg
Sent: 03 February 2020 20:43
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Quregarding Bose Frame Sunglasses

Hi Milan,

Just like you even I am coming on the list after a long long time.
I have been using the Bose Frames for the past few months and feel glad that I 
took the plunge.

Bose Frames are an excellent piece of technology.These currently come in three 
sizes.I have not had a more comfortable and convenient listening experience.I 
find no issues with the durability.The voice quality on calls , especially with 
face time calls is better than that of apple airpods or earpods.These are my 
primary go to earphones for my spoken word  consumption like audio books, 
podcast , voice over.Though I do not use GPS quite a lot, I believe that for 
visually  challenged individuals, these are a match made in heaven for those 
who use them for Gps.Infact post my getting the frames, another of my visually 
challenged friends has got them and using it even more than me.Also they work 
equally well with Ios and android.

Recently, I was travelling from Mumbai on the Express way and for the entire 
journey I used my Frames to consume podcasts and calls.The experience was 
superb.

Sometimes, on normal calls I do have an issue but it is very infrequent.Also, 
the battery life is a serious letdown.It goes for maximum
210 minutes on asingle charge.

There is lots to write and like about Bose frames.However this is a niche 
product and definitely not for everyone.

 It totally depends upon the use case scenario.For someone interested only in 
music, there are better headphones at this price point.

If my memory serves me right, Bose does offer a fourteen day or thirty day 
return policy.I will highly recommend you to check on the return policy and 
then accordingly make an informed decision.

Regards,
Aditya


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Milan
Sent: 3 February, 2020 5:09 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Quregarding Bose Frame Sunglasses

Hello Access Indians,

I hope you all are doing great.

My name is Milan Mittal and currently I am working as a corporate law adviser 
in a law firm . I am writing here after a long time.

As the subject line indicates, my concern is regarding Bose Frame Bluetooth 
Sunglasses. Recently, i had its demo and found it quite helpful, mainly while 
delivering presentations. However, i doubt its durability and performance in 
buzz.

Thus, If any group member is using them, I request them to share their 
experience, mainly relating to its durability and performance, which may 
further help me to decide whether to buy it or not.

I will wait to hear on this.

--
Thanks and regards,
Milan Mittal
+91 99 1004 3004
Sent from my iPhone




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Re: [AI] regarding email client

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
You can also use MS Outlook. If you are using Win10 you can also use mail under 
apps.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
gufran ahmed
Sent: 30 January 2020 12:46
To: AccessIndia
Subject: [AI] regarding email client

Hello access Indians, do you have any idea regarding accessible email clients 
apart from windows mail. I have tried thunderbird, but it seems that these days 
the thunderbird app is not much accessible with screen reader then previous 
versions.
Regards gufran ahmed.




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Re: [AI] WHAT IS DIFERENCE BETWEEN 64 AND ARM64-BASED SYSTEM

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Hi
You can find the type of your processor in system information. You will find 
this in accessories.
As they are different architecture that is the reason separate release are made.
Besides tablets, , some netbooks sport ARM processor.
Harish


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Austin Pinto
Sent: 30 January 2020 12:49
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
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Subject: Re: [AI] WHAT IS DIFERENCE BETWEEN 64 AND ARM64-BASED SYSTEM

if you have a desktop it cant be arm cpu.
so it may be 64bit or 32 bit.
if you have a tablet it may be arm cpu.


On 1/30/20, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> Now my supplementary question is:
> 1.  How do I know that my pc is ARM64  or 64 based system.
> 2.  now microsoft releases 4 type of windows updates for windows 10,
> for 32bit, windows server 2019, windows 10 arm64-based machine and
> 64-based system. can arm64 based update be installed on 64 or viz?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abhisar Waghmare
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:58 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] WHAT IS DIFERENCE BETWEEN 64 AND ARM64-BASED SYSTEM
>
> Hi,
> the term you are referring to here is based on architecture of a processor.
> arm 64 is an arm architecture which supports 64 bit
> processing(generally used in AMD radon processors)  at a time whereas
> just 64bit(according to your question) might be using some different
> architecture but it is also capable of processing 64bits at a time.
> This is a little technical stuffs generally taught in subjects like
> computer organization and architecture.
> your question's simple answer would be they might be 2 different
> architecture capable of processing 64bits at a particular time.
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:52 AM bhawani shankar verma <
> bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello accessindia,
>>
>> what is the difference between 64 and arm64-based system? Please
>> explain it through easy examples as I am not so technical person.
>>
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Re: [AI] NVDA settings

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

Hi
It is control + insert + v
You also get an option to change the TTS and of course the parameters you have 
listed can be changed by tabbing to those fields.
Harish


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Phen Varghese
Sent: 30 January 2020 12:42
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] NVDA settings

Dear all,

I am using Lenovo I 5 1tb hard disk and 8gb ram with NVDA.
I would like to know how to go to voice settings to make changes to speech 
volume and pitch etc.
Hope to hear from you soon.

regards,

Phen Varghese




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[AI] Unfortunate fraud issue

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

All

An incident came to my notice when a blind girl was cheated bya fraudster by 
which she lost close to Lakh of rupees.

She received a call on her mobile alleging that he was calling from Reserve 
Bank and that her credit card got blocked.He got her to part with her CVV and 
date of expiry of her card and also the OTP.
Within seconds thereafter there was a debit for that amount.

I am sharing this incident to prevent anyone else falling prey to it.
  This is taken as a authorized transaction and there is no salvage except a 
hope the perpetrar is caught and the money recovered.

While discussing this incident I was also told about an able bodied persons who 
was well aware about online frauds and who was a faculty in a public sector 
bank also got duped using social engineering tricks.
Therefore please exercise extreme caution while talking to people by phone 
regarding any of your financial transaction.

Also be on a guard of the apps you installing on your mobile.

Regards
Harish




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[AI] Moderator: FW: Sharing good news

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

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I resonate with the request and request all members to stop sending 
congratulatory mails on the list. It should be directed to the person concerned.

It is very much in keeping with the list guidelines.
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Sent: 20 January 2020 22:48
To: Harish Kumar P Kotian
Subject: RE: [AI] Sharing good news

Hi sir,
Hope things are well at you.
Getting the mails on Congratulating people constantly on this list.
 I kindly request you to ask people to stop sending these kind of mails.







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Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing good news

Ongratulations!
Many more to come to your cap..


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Subject: [AI] Sharing good news

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Dear List friends,

I have been awarded by the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India (ICAI) 
at the 13th ICAI awards held at Mumbai on 14/01/2020.

I was awarded the CA Special Recognition award under the CA Special Recognition 
for differently-abled CA’s category. The awards were distributed by the chief 
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Industry in the Union Government.

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[AI] Moderator: RE: Phone Number of Pubali Agarwal.

[Harish Kumar P Kotian]

All
Pl don't share contact details of individuals on the list without obtaining 
consent from them.

You should do so directly.


Regards
Harish Kotian


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Subject: Re: [AI] Phone Number of Pubali Agarwal.

Dear Amiyoji,

Here you go
Ms. Pubali Aggarwal: 8800705565

On 1/20/20, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
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> Can anyone send me the phone mumber of Pubali Agarwal? She is a
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