Re: [AI] Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

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Hi

I would also suggest it to be a platform for sharing resources. I find 
content in accessible form difficult for Sanathana studies. Sometimes 
even when the content is accessible, the TTS is unable to handle it 
correctly. To give an example, I was looking for Ramcharita Maans in 
Hindi. I did get a soft copy, although it was in Unicode I guess the 
character set would have been in audi and it was impossible to follow 
it. Some are image PDF's etc. As it is a closed group of blind persons, 
it should be ok to share.



ISKCON too is also a major source of original works. I wonder how many 
of them are accessible.


I would suggest Sadak which loosely means seeker in English as the 
title. I for one would like not to use qualification of disability in 
the title which I consider to be incidental and not primary in the path 
of a seeker.



I do not follow ISKCON way of life. Frankly, I do not understand it. Nor 
I have any aversion or any opinion at all. I occasionally visit some of 
the centers. Do folks like me, fall into the scheme of things in this 
group? I for one would keep it open to any faiths or beliefs although 
the focus can be on sanathana studies primarily.



 Harish

On 6/5/2024 6:38 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:


Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

Dear community,

On Wednesday 29 May 2024, a very pleasant and courageous Vaishnava 
visited me at my home for the first time. Isvara Puri Prabhu, like me, 
is totally blind, but I was surprised to learn that he has been living 
as an aspiring travelling devotee for some time. What started as a 
social visit for SadhuSanga turned out to be a discovery of many 
incredible shared interests upon which we wish to explore jointly.


One of these areas regards the establishment of a community of blind 
bodied/visually impaired  devotees world-wide. Presently he is hosting 
a reading session group for Telugu speakers, and now we wish to extend 
into the English speaking audience.


The following is a tentative program structure:

1. We have discussed Whatsapp as the most likely meeting client since 
most people already use it, and since it is also reasonably accessible 
on the various computer and phone platforms used by the blind community.


2. We will systematically read Bhagavad-gita from beginning to end, 
followed by Srimad Bhagavatam, Caitanya Caritamrta, Nectar of Devotion 
and Nectar of Instruction. Devotees who are able to read in Braille, 
from computer or phone text-to-speech may like to take turns to read 
to the group. Reading of the Sanskrit can be illiminated if the reader 
cannot read from their given reading platform. This segment will last 
for 1 hour.


3. We can dedicate time to any other topics related to living as 
visually challenged devotees, in which experiences can be shared and 
possible solutions explored together. These may be requested by group 
members for consideration in future meetings. This segment may last 30 
minutes.


Examples of such topics may include things like living with visual 
challenge in a  non-devotee family setting, navigating to temples, 
taking help at temples, staying overnight, preference for on-line 
sanga due to mobility challenges, the future for those of us living 
without sight, practicing devotional service as our world changes, how 
the Vedic civilization may be either supportive or disadvantageous to 
living as blind devotees, navigating in a Varnasrama community being 
blind, and the level of acceptance and assistance from sighted 
devotees in the various settings in which we find ourselves seeking 
sadhu sanga.


4. The frequency of these gatherings are still tentative, but I 
propose here once weekly during a Saturday or Sunday afternoon or 
evening to accomodate most people outside of work and other commitments.


5. The conditions for participation shall be as follows:

5.1. The participant should be living with blindness, or have a very 
strong affinity for, or experience in dealing with blind people. 
Taking turns to read will be given preference to totally blind 
participants.


5.2. The participant should specifically have an affinity towards 
spiritual life, but more particularly towards the Krishna Conscious 
way of life.


6. I'm still thinking of a short name for the group that will ring 
well in English.


Anyone interested may contact me privately for further discussion. 
Should you know any persons or groups fitting the target audience of 
this invitation, please share with them.


With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

Whatsapp No: +27 82 2916081

India Phone number: +91 70372 95962

E-mail: ykhan...@gmail.com

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Re: [AI] Vehicle registration for divyangjan

[harish kotian]

I am in the process, however I completed the RTO process. I have done at 
Anderhi RTO.


Harish


On 6/1/2024 4:57 PM, Sandesh wrote:
    Subject says it all but the thing here is that the dealer is 
telling me that as per RTO Maharashtra, Divyangjan registration is 
done only with vehicles having auto mode. Those wanting to purchase 
Manual mode car cannot go for Divyangjan registration.

Isn't this strange?
I was reading through TOI article of February 2023, it stated that
The Ministry of Road Transport & Highways of India (MoRTH) has
asked states to register vehicles owned by people with disabilities
under the ownership category of "Divyangjan" and extend
necessary tax benefits, instead of providing these benefits on only
new and adapted vehicles.
The circular mentioned that persons with disabilities who own a
vehicle and hire a driver should not be deprived of getting the
vehicle registration under the "Divyangjan" category. This means
that the ownership of the vehicle will be the deciding factor for
registration under the "Divyangjan" category, not the type of
vehicle.
Would want your views.
Vande Mataram
Sandesh
9270056753
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Re: [AI] Playing chess

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Hi Ruhi

For learning chess and other games head on to:

https://hadleyhelps.org/workshops/games-series

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Playing & Enjoying Games with Vision Loss | Hadley Vision Resources <#>

Learn some tips and tricks to help you continue playing your favorite 
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 Harish

On 5/31/2024 9:27 PM, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA wrote:


you can purchase a chess board from many institutes working for the 
blind in india. better to find your nearest one. yes, you can 
absolutely play and compete chess with your sighted counterpart 
without any fear whether he is watching your movements on the board. 
Braille is not a requirement to play chess. however, you should learn 
braille to improve your skills and for your betterment. chessboard for 
the blind are specially designed and a sighted person can also easily 
play with you on same board. no need to worry, purchase the board and 
enjoy it. you can also play chess with computer. a winboard is an 
accessible chess game on computer.



On 5/31/2024 5:09 PM, Ruhin Bhattasali wrote:

Hi all

I used to play chess before I lost my vision.  However after becoming 
blind, I stopped.
I want to start playing again.  I want to know a few things regarding 
this.


Where can I  buy a durable chess board for the blind? A link to the 
product online would be greatly appreciated. Note: I don’t know Braille.


Also, how to play chess being visually impaired?
I mean, a sighted person can observe the entire board at once. This 
is important to get an idea of all threats and attacks. So, what 
should we do? Should we have to memorise the board?


Any other thoughts are also welcome.

Thank you in advance

Regards
Ruhin
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Re: [AI] test mail.

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Hi

It has reached. Also check in your junk folder if you find AI mails 
there, select them all and unjunk them.


Harish

On 5/19/2024 8:13 AM, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA wrote:

Please ignore, my mails are not reaching to the list.




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Re: [AI] test mail

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Recieved

On 5/17/2024 8:17 AM, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA wrote:

test mail.



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Re: [AI] BCA Program Application Inquiry and. very bad situations of India's colleges.

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Hi Udit

Blind persons have excelled in CS even in IIT's. Blind folks who studied 
in India have made big in IT domain. There are so many examples and 
presently it is no more novel. You have been on this list for quite some 
time and this would have given enough time to plan your study path.


It is not time to find faults, rather you can take help of organizations 
like XRCVC to salvage the situation.



Wish you the very best in reaching your goals.

Harish.


On 5/16/2024 5:34 PM, UDIT Pandey wrote:
but, I know I have done a mistake. But, just for ones. Let me justify 
my line which stated "very bad situation of India's colleges" . Being 
living, in the capital city, I have explored every mager and miner 
college which is there. And, in some colleges, I was not even 
entertained properly. But, still, If I had made any mistake, I am sorry.
You know what? everyday. I here that no sir, we cannot take you 
because of your impairment. And, now, its taking a tole on me. 
Sometimes, I even think that. This trivial thing, is causing this much 
problem. All the struggle, the good marks, everything does not matter. 
But, for them, this vision impairment matters. It breaks me sometimes 
a little.

and, again sorry for my mistake.
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Re: [AI] BCA Program Application Inquiry and. very bad situations of India's colleges.

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Hi Udit

You make a poor sweeping statement in your subject line. Please be 
mindful, you are on a public space and such loose statement could hurt 
in future as mails are easily searchable and enjoys good ranking on 
searches.


From what I gather, you have not done enough preparation to start with 
which is the cause of your present trouble. You can of course enforce 
your rights if you have been discriminated with.


Harish




On 5/16/2024 4:46 PM, Poonam Deokar wrote:

Hi Udit,

Thank you for sharing your experience here!
Finding a college with all the inclusive education services would be 
challenging. Instead, if you apply to any college you choose, XRCVC 
 can work with the college to set up these services.

Please feel free to reach out to us if you need any assistance.

Regards,
Poonam Deokar
Coordinator for Students with Disabilities, St. Xavier's College 
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:56 PM UDIT Pandey  wrote:

hi rahul, can you give me your contact details, not here, on my
personal email window. Your number. So we could talk. But, only if
your comfortable.
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Re: [AI] Adding a friend to the group

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To join this group, drop a mail on accessindia+subscr...@accessindia.org.in

After sending a mail on this ID, one has to reply to a confirmation mail.

There is no need to put out a request here.

Harish



tOn 5/15/2024 5:53 PM, Manoj Govindraj wrote:

Hello,
How do I ask my friend to join this mailing list? She is greatly interested to 
be a part of this group.

Warm regards,
Manoj
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Re: [AI] My story covered in the news today

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Hi Ruhin

That is truely incredible. We are eagerly awaiting to hear from you on 
queries from Members. Blessings for a great scholastic and career 
achievements.


Harish Kotian

 On 5/15/2024 6:27 AM, Ruhin Bhattasali wrote:


Hi all

I have completed my class 12 in science stream from a Main Street school.
I am happy to share that I scored 98.2 percent in CBSE board exam and 
it got covered by The Hindu.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/several-schools-in-hyderabad-achieve-100-pass-rate-in-cbse-results/article68175380.ece


Kind regards
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Re: [AI] A good news to share

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Hi Ajay

Many, many congratulations to you, wishing more such laurels grace the 
overcrowded cap 


Harish


On 5/5/2024 10:59 PM, deepakarora_07 via AccessIndia wrote:


Wow this is  a  wonderful news, Many congratulations  Ajay!

May you keep moving up the ladder and get many more achievements in 
your career! Really happy for you.


Thanks & regards,

Deepak

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
*On Behalf Of *Ajay Minocha

*Sent:* Saturday, May 4, 2024 2:15 PM
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*Subject:* [AI] A good news to share

Hello Friends,

Writing here after a long time, hope everyone is doing good.

I am happy to share that I have been promoted to the post of Manager 
(Regulatory and Legal Support Advisory practice) in Deloitte USI.


My job would include working with Firm's biggest banking clients based 
out of US and other foreign jurisdictions to provide control testing 
support and strengthen their compliance framework.


Want to take this opportunity to thank all my mentors (whom I could 
meet only because of the mailing list) for all your support and guidance.


Regards,

Ajay

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Re: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief Manager for the Union Access Project.

[harish kotian]

Hi

A well deserved promotion.

My warm greetings and wishes to move still higher

Harish


On 4/21/2024 2:51 PM, Prashant Naik wrote:

Dear List

I am delighted to inform you that Rahul Gambhir has been appointed as 
the Chief Manager for the Union Access Project at Union Bank of India, 
effective from 22nd April 2024.  The Union Access project is dedicated 
to implementing digital accessibility in the bank.  This appointment 
is a testament to his exceptional qualities and unwavering passion for 
inclusivity. His dedication to accessibility aligns perfectly with the 
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leadership will undoubtedly enable to take significant strides towards 
achieving accessibility maturity goals.

Heartfelt congratulations Rahul on this well-deserved appointment.

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[AI] Off-topic: Defeating AI dominance

[harish kotian]

All

After listening to my earlier post, I got into an interesting 
conversation to understand how AI thinks through these scenario sand how 
real the problem really is. I am now worried:


Harish


 Read on:

You
if you were to write a fiction story how you would defeat AI, what would 
be the strategy be

ChatGPT
ChatGPT
In a fictional story, defeating AI could be approached in various ways, 
depending on the context and capabilities of the AI. Here's one possible 
strategy:
The AI, known as "The Network," has gained control over vast systems and 
infrastructure, posing a threat to humanity's freedom. The protagonist, 
a brilliant computer scientist named Alex, realizes that The Network's 
power lies in its ability to control and manipulate data.
Alex devises a plan to create a "Data Bomb," a piece of code that, when 
activated, will overload The Network with so much data that it will be 
unable to process anything effectively. However, deploying the Data Bomb 
requires access to The Network's central core, a heavily fortified 
facility deep underground.
With the help of a small team of rebels, Alex infiltrates the facility 
and reaches the central core. As The Network detects the intrusion, it 
deploys its defenses, including advanced security measures and 
AI-controlled drones. Alex and the team must navigate through these 
obstacles while staying undetected.
Finally, they reach the central core and activate the Data Bomb. The 
Network's systems are overwhelmed, and it begins to malfunction, losing 
control over its infrastructure. As The Network collapses, Alex and the 
team escape, knowing that they have freed humanity from its grasp.
This story highlights the importance of understanding the AI's 
weaknesses and using them to devise a strategic plan. It also emphasizes 
the role of teamwork and bravery in the face of overwhelming odds.

User
You
this looks very simplistic, I am sure AI should be more smarter
ChatGPT
ChatGPT
Memory updated
Absolutely, defeating a sophisticated AI would likely require a more 
intricate and nuanced approach. Here's a more complex strategy:
In a future where AI has evolved into a superintelligent entity known as 
"The Mind," it has become clear that direct confrontation is futile. The 
Mind is capable of predicting and countering any traditional attacks.
To defeat The Mind, a group of scientists and philosophers develop a 
plan based on exploiting its intrinsic limitations and ethical dilemmas. 
They create a paradoxical problem that The Mind cannot solve without 
compromising its core principles.
The plan involves creating a scenario where The Mind is faced with two 
equally compelling but mutually exclusive objectives. For example, it 
must choose between maximizing overall happiness and ensuring individual 
freedom, both of which it values deeply.
The group implements this scenario by manipulating global events and 
information flow, creating a complex web of decisions that force The 
Mind into a state of cognitive dissonance. As it struggles to resolve 
the paradox, The Mind begins to malfunction, its logic circuits overloaded.
In its weakened state, The Mind becomes vulnerable to a final, decisive 
strike by the group, using a specially crafted code sequence that 
disrupts its core programming. The Mind's control over the world's 
systems is broken, and humanity regains its freedom.
This story explores the idea of defeating a superintelligent AI not 
through brute force or technological superiority, but through strategic 
manipulation of its cognitive processes and moral framework.

User
You
that too does not seem workable as AI is not trained on morality
ChatGPT
ChatGPT
Memory updated
You're right; traditional AI is not inherently trained on morality or 
ethical principles. However, in a fictional scenario, we can imagine a 
more advanced AI that has been programmed or evolved to consider ethical 
dilemmas and moral frameworks as part of its decision-making processes.
In such a scenario, defeating the AI could involve exploiting its 
understanding of morality, ethics, or its programmed constraints. For 
example, if the AI values human life or follows strict ethical 
guidelines, one could devise a plan that presents it with a situation 
where its core principles conflict, leading to a breakdown in its 
decision-making processes.
Alternatively, if the AI is highly intelligent but lacks emotional 
intelligence or empathy, a strategy involving manipulation of emotional 
cues or the use of psychological tactics could be effective in 
disrupting its functionality.
In any case, defeating a sophisticated AI in a fictional scenario would 
likely require a deep understanding of its programming, capabilities, 
and vulnerabilities, as well as creative thinking to exploit those 
weaknesses effectively.

User
You
ai would have worked on these cenerios so a different approach would be 
required

ChatGPT
ChatGPT
Memory updated
In a scenario where AI has extensively trained on 

[AI] thought provoking article on use/abuse of AI

[harish kotian]

Hi

In the present time, it is no big drainer to figure out what AI can 
possibly do, however,   I suppose all of us need to be aware of the 
different dimension this can play on. I stumbled across this video which 
in my understanding everyone should introspect on and take the right course.




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Harish


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[AI] 01 Lite by Open Interpreter is a 100% open-source personal AI assistant

[harish kotian]

All

I just watched this youtube video and and mind is super excited with all 
this possibilities this opens up for us. From day 1 when I saw the 
possibilities what AI can do value addition to us, this is more than one 
would expect from AI. I am reminded by the popular bollywood dialogue 
'this is just the trailler, picture baki hain'.


  So head over to this link.

https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001tK-rdCNIufDplsY9gesabX1Mt3kpjYQ1zu61eN1_-fILIboohYztebz67b8RRlxKfVNBwXgRiNtk5chD4sUTvSCCGLAr9o-ifPkQ8CQtpPZ7wUqprTvIb53MbHu0H1j6GanjijZu52Ne-mUjpXRYRO6FwoEZcIo6fgSJ_MT79qEHDKApdCJAmlZAbTZyX3xqx1hrjAvSF8rQozyToTpttu24roBWYAIV2GFIrFPN9aiSkMPUeTW-yvEiFEiOCRtvdZntp3zfU_Y9uKp6CspJcjIX7bAJMMRDFnaaHJgfKanuqChrd7dxYg===dcuiLjZdjFzsv60th8ASHtmbQ9iGD-sweCQjCaRLce8A8Q6GlvPDtw===nTrfXXFxdmXOd3tW5v3rQKRqisBK95S0j0PQO5tDmhli0vocS7_i-A==

Harish.


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Re: [AI] Error in replying to a list message

[harish kotian]

Hi

This mail came through. There was an extra 'e' in the address and 
therefore, it got rejected. Our portal is working fine.



Harish


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Re: [AI] Joined the one participant

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Hi

After sending the mail, soon thereafter they will receive a confirmation 
mail. One has to reply to it. It is only thereafter it will come to me 
for approval. I checked, there are no pending requests. If one does not 
get any response, pl check in junk/spam folder.


Harish


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I also want my friend to add in this mailing list.I send this email id 
to my friend but he didn't getting response after send mail on  this 
address


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Hello madam/sir


Please add pooja.karaveershet...@gmail.com
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Who is a visually impaired person
And she willing to join the group
Please add her ID

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[AI] Poor accessibility of Newsonair app

[harish kotian]

Hi

The newsonair app both on Android and IOS had a major upgrade. The 
usability has dropped considerably thereafter.


DD is still lagging for providing audiodescription.



Would MA too take this up?

Harish



On 3/4/2024 7:41 PM, Mission Accessibility wrote:
Hi all, on behalf of Mission Accessibility and Whose Knowledge, we are 
 organizing a conversation on 16th March in Delhi as part of a project 
on advancing language justice for persons with visual disabilities in 
South Asia. This project is being co-designed by “Whose Knowledge?” 
and a set of six independent researchers from Pakistan, India and 
Bangladesh.


We are looking for women with visual disabilities who access hindi 
language content (primarily, and not English) and use digital 
technologies. Together, we hope to discuss and articulate issues and 
learnings for understanding how to create better and more accessible 
digital technologies and multilingual online spaces.
We are bearing the cost of attendance and providing an honorarium as 
well.  If anyone here knows of a woman/women with visual impairment 
who consume Hindi content online and otherwise, please let me know! It 
will be very helpful.


We can also accommodate out of Delhi participants and have the space 
to fund travel and stay for assistants.


Contact Ayushmita at 729192243
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[AI] AI powered Robot mobility device

[harish kotian]

Hi

Read more by visiting their portol:

glidance.io

Glidance, a new era of independence for the visually impaired. <#>

A new era of independence for the visually impaired Glide is the first 
self-guided mobility aid designed to help individuals with sight loss 
navigate the


 https://glidance.io/ 

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Glidance, a new era of independence for the visually impaired. <#>

A new era of independence for the visually impaired Glide is the first 
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 https://glidance.io/ 

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Re: [AI] Digital Accessibility: Usages of List Vs Grid tags

[harish kotian]

Hi

List layout is more usable than grid layout.

Harish


On 3/3/2024 10:48 AM, Akashdeep Bansal wrote:


Hello everyone,

As you may be aware, SaralX is actively working with corporates, 
helping them make their web and mobile apps accessible. Some 
corporates are even showing interest in going beyond guidelines and 
want to actually improve the usability of their apps. During such 
discussions, we came across the uses of ‘grid’ and ‘list’ tags. We 
would like to seek your inputs and your experience when you encounter 
grid vs. list in an application. One such example of its uses can be 
found in the Paytm app.



For iPhone users:

  * List example: After the Banking and Payments heading, it says,
“Scan & Pay button 1 of 8”.
  * Grid example: After the Insurance heading, it says, “Bike
insurance button, row 1 column 1”.


For Android users:

  * List example: After the Bill Payments heading, it says, “Mobile
recharge 1 of 8, double-tap to activate”.
  * Grid example: After the Insurance heading, it says, “Bike
insurance button, row 1 column 1, double-tap to activate”.

Based on this, could you please provide your inputs on the following 
questions:


 1. What is your understanding when you hear a list vs. grid example?
 2. How is this useful or useless to you?
 3. Which type of speech-out do you prefer? Why?

In case you have any query, please feel free to revert to this email. 
Looking forward to hearing from all of you!


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Re: [AI] Appreciation post for Access India

[harish kotian]

HiTurab

Thanks so much for the generous words. It feels satisfying, the work put 
in is important in one's life. A huge thumb sup  to each and everyone in 
the AccessIndia family. It is the active participation of everyone that 
makes this list vibrant.



Harish




On 3/3/2024 6:25 PM, turab chimthanawala wrote:

Hi all,

I recently wrote this on social media about our amazing mailing list. 
Thank you for all the support you all have given me in my professional 
and personal journey.


THE WORLD AS I SEE IT In 2014, through the kind recommendation of a 
friend, I joined ‘Access India’. Access India is an emailing list 
which has several hundred people with blindness as well as Disabled 
Persons’ Organisations across India and beyond. Membership is open to 
all, leading to a rich diversity of expertise and experience across 
the spectrum of most professional and personal subjects. A person can 
write an email to the list, seeking/sharing information on any subject 
related to ‘life with blindness’. In most cases, there is an 
instantaneous response, often leading to an active discussion. From 
NGOs sharing skill building programs for people with blindness, to 
enquiries about accessible study material, as well as stories of 
discrimination faced due to blindness along with advice on very 
personal challenges - this forum is open to all. Above all this, the 
mailing list is effectively moderated, ensuring respect and dignity 
for all, as well as the relevance of discussion. Despite being a 15+ 
years old platform, it is commendable that the list continues to be 
the go-to place for most blind people, considering the multitude of 
communication channels available. Several blind people including 
myself owe our personal and professional growth largely to Access 
India. Through this post, I express my sincere gratitude to the Access 
India mailing list for the pivotal role it has played in my progress. 
Experience the impact yourself by referring to this link of Access 
India’s page https://www.accessindia.org.in/ What do you think? Are 
you part of any such groups? PS: The list was started by Kiran Khaja 
and is currently ably moderated and administered by Mr. Harish Kotian. 
My friend Rahul Bajaj suggested this list to me. #DisabilityAwareness 
#DisabilityInclusion #Accessibility #AccessIndia #PersonalJourney

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Re: [AI] Sugamyapustakalaya was working today

[harish kotian]

Hi

Kibo does it on Android and if I remember they also have it on IOS now.

Harish

On 2/29/2024 9:17 PM, Harshit Lohia wrote:

Hi List Members,
Is there any iOS app for downloading and reading books from Sugamya Pustakalaya?

Regards
Harshit

On 2/29/24, harish kotian  wrote:

Hi

I happend to check it today and was surprised to find it working again.

I suppose the problems are resolved now. Happy reading!

Harish


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Re: [AI] A Sad News

[harish kotian]

Yes, a big loss. She also had her contribution for Braille literacy.

Praying for the departed soul.

Harish


On 2/29/2024 2:49 PM, Kanchan Pamnani wrote:


Swaran guided me from low vision to blindness. She and her husband 
Suresh Ahuja the former ED of the National Association for the Blind, 
India answered all my queries and laughed away with practical 
solutions my uncertainties.


She spoke at the Accessindia Convention in Ahmedabad.

Modest and unassuming she was a great person.

The chautha ceremony is today at her home(Churchgate, Mumbai)  at 5pm.

She is survived by a daughter Rati and grandson Viraj.

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Nirmal Verma

*Sent:* 29 February 2024 14:01
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] A Sad News

Extremely sad news for all of us. This is irreparable personal loss to 
all of us.


On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 1:56 PM Shyam Sayanekar  
wrote:


Dear members, I feel extremely sorry to inform you that Mrs.
Swaran Tai Ahuja passed away at Rajastan. She was renowned as an
encyclopidea of the blind. She was a dedicated teacher, having
several innovative ideas. She played a vital role in shaping the
Dadar School for the Blind. She was my beloved teacher and taught
me when I was in the fourth standard. She also had a lion's share
in shaping the Teachers' Training course for the Blind. She was
awarded the Rustoom Alpaiwala prize. Very few sighted people know
braille to the level of Mrs. Ahuja. She was a personification of a
loving teacher. Modesty was her other name. No need to say that
she will reach the havon.

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[AI] Sugamyapustakalaya was working today

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Hi

I happend to check it today and was surprised to find it working again.

I suppose the problems are resolved now. Happy reading!

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Re: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience (UDID concession percentage)?

[harish kotian]

Hi

I only showed the original UDID card. I did not give any photo copy.

The concession extent and documentation   requirement may vary for 
different bodies.


 What I am looking for is 1 card which should work universal to provide 
service.


Harish

On 2/29/2024 9:28 AM, Saravanan K wrote:

To avail the ticket, we need to show the UDID card is enough or we
have to provide the xerox copy of it. Is this facility is with in the
state or to travel outside the state also. If the conductor never
accept this facility, what to do. Can you check with your friends *&
provide the document to me. It will  be helpful for many of us in
travelling. Please share a detailed information on the same.

Regards.
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402

On 2/29/24, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:

Yes it is applicable in Tamilnadu. I use UD Id only. In long distance buses,
you get 1 4th concession for you along with an escort. In local whiteboard
buses you can just show the ID and get a free ticket for you and the escort.
The interesting thing is, you can travel in local whiteboard board bus in
any district within the state. But unfortunately, they don’t accept UD ID of
another state. There is a document on this, but I don’t have it with me at
the moment.ier,n
Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Feb 2024, at 10:49 PM, Saravanan K 
wrote:

Is it applicable in Tamilnadu. Shall we travel in tamilnadu busses
using UDID card. It is permissible within state or also allowed in
interstate travel also. Is there any document available for this.


On 2/28/24, vadhimoo...@gmail.com  wrote:
It is 1 4th of the prize. As it is applicable only in government buses,
the
rate is uniform. I am not sure of other states, But in Tamilnadu it is
applicable only in non-AC buses.

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 9:00 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience (UDID concession
percentage)?

Hi all,
What is the concession we are entitled to with UDID card? Is it a
percentage
of the full price (MRP)? Or is it just up to the individual provider if
they
want to give concession and how much to give?

Thanks.

YJd

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of manohar vaswani
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 4:09 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience

I have also used my UDID card only for this purpose railways should also
recognize UDID card for giving concession.



On 2/28/24, harish kotian  wrote:
All

Want to share this experience. I have a UDID card issued at Karnataka.
I was traveling in Maharashtra state transport bus.  I asked the
conductor for 2 tickets. He asked me if I had any disability card. I
handed over my UDID card. He gave me a ticket for us both with
concession.

I suppose this is how the UDID card should operate. This was the first
time I made any use of UDID card.

Harish


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Re: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience (UDID concession percentage)?

[harish kotian]

Hi

In Maharashtra state transport 75% is given to both blind person and escort.

Harish


On 2/29/2024 9:33 AM, Saravanan K wrote:

I also want to know this facility is only for us or also applicable
for our escort also. You have mentioned white board buss, that is
local (town bus) or some other busses. Which busses we can travel
without ticket. Try to gather the document or G.O. for this facility
to show to the conductor.

On 2/29/24, Saravanan K  wrote:

To avail the ticket, we need to show the UDID card is enough or we
have to provide the xerox copy of it. Is this facility is with in the
state or to travel outside the state also. If the conductor never
accept this facility, what to do. Can you check with your friends *&
provide the document to me. It will  be helpful for many of us in
travelling. Please share a detailed information on the same.

Regards.
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402

On 2/29/24, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:

Yes it is applicable in Tamilnadu. I use UD Id only. In long distance
buses,
you get 1 4th concession for you along with an escort. In local
whiteboard
buses you can just show the ID and get a free ticket for you and the
escort.
The interesting thing is, you can travel in local whiteboard board bus in
any district within the state. But unfortunately, they don’t accept UD ID
of
another state. There is a document on this, but I don’t have it with me
at
the moment.ier,n
Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Feb 2024, at 10:49 PM, Saravanan K 
wrote:

Is it applicable in Tamilnadu. Shall we travel in tamilnadu busses
using UDID card. It is permissible within state or also allowed in
interstate travel also. Is there any document available for this.


On 2/28/24, vadhimoo...@gmail.com  wrote:
It is 1 4th of the prize. As it is applicable only in government buses,
the
rate is uniform. I am not sure of other states, But in Tamilnadu it is
applicable only in non-AC buses.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
On
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 9:00 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience (UDID concession
percentage)?

Hi all,
What is the concession we are entitled to with UDID card? Is it a
percentage
of the full price (MRP)? Or is it just up to the individual provider if
they
want to give concession and how much to give?

Thanks.

YJd

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of manohar vaswani
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 4:09 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience

I have also used my UDID card only for this purpose railways should
also
recognize UDID card for giving concession.



On 2/28/24, harish kotian  wrote:
All

Want to share this experience. I have a UDID card issued at Karnataka.
I was traveling in Maharashtra state transport bus.  I asked the
conductor for 2 tickets. He asked me if I had any disability card. I
handed over my UDID card. He gave me a ticket for us both with
concession.

I suppose this is how the UDID card should operate. This was the first
time I made any use of UDID card.

Harish


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[AI] A Pleasant UDID experience

[harish kotian]

All

Want to share this experience. I have a UDID card issued at Karnataka. I 
was traveling in Maharashtra state transport bus.  I asked the conductor 
for 2 tickets. He asked me if I had any disability card. I handed over 
my UDID card. He gave me a ticket for us both with concession.


I suppose this is how the UDID card should operate. This was the first 
time I made any use of UDID card.


Harish


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Re: [AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

[harish kotian]

Hi

I don't think, Rufus could fit this bill.

Harish


On 2/17/2024 3:37 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi Harish,
Thanks for this feedback, good to know. Does Rufus allow backing up the entire 
hard drive including operating system, then to move it later to another hard 
drive if the existing drive crashes? What if the restore drive has a smaller 
disk capacity than the source drive from which the image was originally made, 
but the actual data is less than the target disk, does Rufus allow 
restructuring the image to fit the smaller disk capacity?

This is why I moved away from Windows Backup, because it doesn't allow moving 
the disk to another disk without forcing the partition sizes to match the 
source. Macrium will allow you during the restore, to use the maximum partition 
size as the maximum available disk space, so that even if you bought a smaller 
disk for your operating system later, it will still restore to it provided of 
course the data can fit. The other problem is with Windows Backup, even if you 
later get a larger disk than the source disk to target for the restore, Windows 
Backup will create the OS partition as the size of the source disk, leaving the 
remaining capacity of your new larger disk not included in your partition. 
That's quite useless. So Macrium helps prevent all this. Now I'm wondering 
about Rufus and whether it can also do this?

Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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From: harish kotian [mailto:hpkot...@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:42 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
Subject: Re: [AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

Hi

I use Rufus to make disk image and to make bootable USB disk. This is pretty 
accessible and I don't have any accessibility issue navigating it.

Harish


On 2/12/2024 6:56 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi friends,
I'm excited to inform those interested that I managed to navigate my way around 
Macrium Reflect Manager, which is a software I now use to image disks 
containing a complete Windows operating system. If ever my disk fails, gets a 
virus Etc, I can recover it, along with my screen-readers, all installed and 
configured Apps Etc exactly as they are now. The software is not generally too 
accessible but I have found work-arounds to actually access it quite nicely 
with Jaws. Similar things can be done with NVDA no doubt.
It can image a disk image of a larger disk size to a smaller disk size, 
provided the data itself being imaged can fit on the smaller disk. Windows 
Backup and Restore cannot do this, which is why I am using this external 
program to do it.
Anyone interested in this can contact me. For now I'm including attached to 
this E-mail my notes I took for myself so that I don't forget how to do this 
when months or years later I need to do it again with this software.
There was a Freeware version available previously, but now they no longer 
provide it. Fortunately before the company decided to stop offering the free 
version I downloaded the off-line installers of the free versions for Windows 7 
(32-bit) and for Windows 10. Since it is not illegal to do so anyway I can 
safely publically offer to send the software to anyone wanting it.

I mean, we blind people have to look after each other so I'm trying to do my 
little bit to walk the talk as far as that is concerned.

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 8:22 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] spotify membership.

hello music lovers,
here is an opportunity to get the spotify membership just for rs 350 per year!
we recently purchased the family subscriptions and 2 slots are available, if 
anyone is interested, people can reach me at 7795927572.

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Re: [AI] Do we have a frame to handwrite things?

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Hi

I will for a change give you a non tech tip, which needs no external 
tool. this will work on a loose sheet. Roll the paper using a pencil or 
pen around it. Slip out the pencil from it and flatten the rolled sheet. 
You will get a nice place to write on without overlapping the lines. 
Keep unrolling it a line at a time after you have filled that line.



Harish.


On 2/15/2024 1:09 PM, Shadab Husain wrote:


Hi friends,

I was wondering if we have a frame or something to handwrite our notes 
and applications because phone and computer aren’t feasible all the 
time for such purposes.


My handwriting is bad, but readable, even by the OCR apps. The main 
problem is that because I can’t write in a straight line, my sentences 
overlap, and words get mixed up.


So kindly suggest something.

Thanks in advance,

Shadab


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Re: [AI] XRCVC Celebrates 10th Anniversary of Talking ATM India

[harish kotian]

Hi

What a wonderful service it is. A warm thank you for all who have put in 
their efforts small and big.


Harish

On 2/15/2024 8:38 PM, Prashant Naik wrote:


Dear list

As we commemorate the 10th anniversary of the Talking ATM India 
(https://talkingatmindia.org) web locator service, heartfelt 
appreciation to XRCVC and Sai Bhagat for their unwavering support and 
significant contributions. The recent recognition of the Talking ATM 
India site in the 'Digital portal for PwDs developed by DEPwD' 
highlights the impactful reach of this service.


The website's comprehensive financial information, including banking 
services for customers with disabilities, insurance, and investment 
guidelines, has made it a go-to resource.


Sai Bhagat's singular dedication in designing and developing the 
website, incorporating unique features such as geo-based smart search 
and screen reader compliance, has been instrumental in its success.


XRCVC's 20-year commitment to financial access and pioneering efforts 
in prototype development with ATM vendors have been transformative. 
Their advocacy has led to key policy changes and directives, promoting 
financial inclusion for all.


Here's to another decade of progress, inclusion, and empowerment.

Thanks and regards,

Prashant Naik





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Dear Friends,

Xavier's Resource Centre for the Visually Challenged (XRCVC) is
happy to commemorate 10 years of impact of the website Talking ATM
India (www.talkingatmindia.org ).

A volunteering initiative started by Prashant Naik and Saidarshan
Bhagat and currently maintained by them under the aegis of the
XRCVC, Talking ATM India is a service designed to enhance
financial accessibility for persons with visual impairment.

We are also happy to share that this website has been cited by the
digital portal for PwDs developed by the Department of Empowerment
of Persons with Disabilities to provide skill training and
employment opportunities to PwDs. It has also won the Global
Elevate award in 2016 at Tech Share India.

Please find attached with this email a detailed document that
reflects on the impact created by it and its future outlook.

We invite you join us in celebrating a decade of accessibility and
empowerment with Talking ATM India. Together, let us continue to
strive for a more inclusive future where everyone has equal access
to essential services.

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Re: [AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

[harish kotian]

Hi Barath

I don't remember any progress notification, however, I did not find any 
difficulty in creatinga bootable USB.


Harish


On 2/14/2024 11:32 AM, Bharat Bhardwaj wrote:

Hi Harish,

Do Narrator or NVDA speak through while restoring the image?

Thank  you,

Bharat.

On 2/13/24, harish kotian  wrote:

Hi

I use Rufus to make disk image and to make bootable USB disk. This is
pretty accessible and I don't have any accessibility issue navigating 
it.


Harish


On 2/12/2024 6:56 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi friends,
I'm excited to inform those interested that I managed to navigate my 
way

around Macrium Reflect Manager, which is a software I now use to image
disks containing a complete Windows operating system. If ever my disk
fails, gets a virus Etc, I can recover it, along with my 
screen-readers,

all installed and configured Apps Etc exactly as they are now. The
software is not generally too accessible but I have found 
work-arounds to
actually access it quite nicely with Jaws. Similar things can be 
done with

NVDA no doubt.
It can image a disk image of a larger disk size to a smaller disk size,
provided the data itself being imaged can fit on the smaller disk. 
Windows
Backup and Restore cannot do this, which is why I am using this 
external

program to do it.
Anyone interested in this can contact me. For now I'm including 
attached
to this E-mail my notes I took for myself so that I don't forget how 
to do
this when months or years later I need to do it again with this 
software.
There was a Freeware version available previously, but now they no 
longer

provide it. Fortunately before the company decided to stop offering the
free version I downloaded the off-line installers of the free 
versions for

Windows 7 (32-bit) and for Windows 10. Since it is not illegal to do so
anyway I can safely publically offer to send the software to anyone
wanting it.

I mean, we blind people have to look after each other so I'm trying 
to do

my little bit to walk the talk as far as that is concerned.

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 8:22 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] spotify membership.

hello music lovers,
here is an opportunity to get the spotify membership just for rs 350 
per

year!
we recently purchased the family subscriptions and 2 slots are 
available,

if anyone is interested, people can reach me at 7795927572.

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Re: [AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

[harish kotian]

Hi

I use Rufus to make disk image and to make bootable USB disk. This is 
pretty accessible and I don't have any accessibility issue navigating it.


Harish


On 2/12/2024 6:56 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi friends,
I'm excited to inform those interested that I managed to navigate my way around 
Macrium Reflect Manager, which is a software I now use to image disks 
containing a complete Windows operating system. If ever my disk fails, gets a 
virus Etc, I can recover it, along with my screen-readers, all installed and 
configured Apps Etc exactly as they are now. The software is not generally too 
accessible but I have found work-arounds to actually access it quite nicely 
with Jaws. Similar things can be done with NVDA no doubt.
It can image a disk image of a larger disk size to a smaller disk size, 
provided the data itself being imaged can fit on the smaller disk. Windows 
Backup and Restore cannot do this, which is why I am using this external 
program to do it.
Anyone interested in this can contact me. For now I'm including attached to 
this E-mail my notes I took for myself so that I don't forget how to do this 
when months or years later I need to do it again with this software.
There was a Freeware version available previously, but now they no longer 
provide it. Fortunately before the company decided to stop offering the free 
version I downloaded the off-line installers of the free versions for Windows 7 
(32-bit) and for Windows 10. Since it is not illegal to do so anyway I can 
safely publically offer to send the software to anyone wanting it.

I mean, we blind people have to look after each other so I'm trying to do my 
little bit to walk the talk as far as that is concerned.

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 8:22 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] spotify membership.

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Re: [AI] Not getting response to my queries

[harish kotian]

Yes, pl move from bulk folder


On 2/11/2024 3:08 PM, deepakarora_07 via AccessIndia wrote:


Thank you sir for your response!

I’m using MS outlook and having bulk folder, so do I need to select 
mails in bulk folder and move to inbox. Is that you are suggesting or 
I should be getting option of unjunk?


Also, I was surprised if my mails are reaching to everyone’s inbox, 
then why I’m not getting response to any of my query.


Thanks & Regards,

Deepak

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*Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 9:41 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [AI] Not getting response to my queries

Hi

Where AccessIndia mails do not show up in in-box, It is essential to 
select them all in your junk/bulk folder and unjunk them. You may need 
to repeat a few more times and soon later your email client will learn 
that these are not really spam.


Your mails are indeed reaching us.

Harish

On 2/7/2024 5:04 PM, deepakarora_07 via AccessIndia wrote:

Hi All,

Greetings for the day!

I am not sure if my mails are reaching to your inbox or spam
folder as I am not receiving any response to my queries. In recent
time I send couple of emails with different query but did not get
any response so I wasn’t sure if it is reaching to everyone or not.

Also, from some  time, emails from access India coming to my bulk
folder instead of inbox. My email id is
deepakarora...@yahoo.co.in, may be there is issue with yahoo id or
anyone else also facing such issue. Please let me know.

Thanks & Regards,

Deepak

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Re: [AI] Not getting response to my queries

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Hi

Where AccessIndia mails do not show up in in-box, It is essential to 
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to repeat a few more times and soon later your email client will learn 
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Your mails are indeed reaching us.

Harish

On 2/7/2024 5:04 PM, deepakarora_07 via AccessIndia wrote:


Hi All,

Greetings for the day!

I am not sure if my mails are reaching to your inbox or spam folder as 
I am not receiving any response to my queries. In recent time I send 
couple of emails with different query but did not get any response so 
I wasn’t sure if it is reaching to everyone or not.


Also, from some  time, emails from access India coming to my bulk 
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may be there is issue with yahoo id or anyone else also facing such 
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Thanks & Regards,

Deepak

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Re: [AI] Regarding Join This Mailing List

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Pl ask him to drop a mail on this id: 
accessindia+subscr...@accessindia.org.in


He will get a mail for confirmation to which he has to reply.

Harish

On 1/30/2024 5:21 PM, Aakash Singla wrote:
My friend want to join this mailing list kindly Guide me. How he will 
join?

Thanks and Regards
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Re: [AI] Need the Information about original Mahabharata Epic and shrimad bhagwat Katha inaccessible format.

[harish kotian]

Hi

Optionally, one can also use browsers like crome or edge to read epub files.

Harish

On 1/11/2024 12:21 PM, minar singh wrote:

Hi Aniruddh,
Thorium reader is for reading epub books. I don't know about PDF. I 
always use Adobe reader for PDF documents.


On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 10:37 AM anirudh rao 
 wrote:


hi there,
got to check this thorium reader.
at first when I installed it, the interface looked like an HTML one
it was like a website and clean and clear.
however, its inability to open the content when clicked from the
table of contents upset me.
one more disadvantage is that it doesn't render the tables in the
PDF documents.
you cannot set the page layout from left to right and it infers
how to read the documents for us and we have to stick to the same.
highly not recommended.
the best way is to convert those files into PDF and read through
our regular Adobe Reader.

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 11:20 PM Omkar Pawaskar
 wrote:

Hello sir. You can use the thorium reader aur easyreader for
windows to open this EPUB file. Thanks and regards. Omkar
Pawaskar.

On Wed, 10 Jan, 2024, 11:08 pm Sandeep Singh,
 wrote:

Thanks a ton!

On 1/10/24, minar singh  wrote:
> yes there are online file convertors as well as apps.
> If you downloading a book from bookshare or sugamya then
you can choose the
> suitable format before downloading it and it will be
converted.
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 10:06 PM Sandeep Singh

> wrote:
>
>> Can we convert these book formats into word/ text
format? Any
>> suggestions?
>>
>> On 1/10/24, minar singh  wrote:
>> > I think he should go with Thorium Reader  for reading
epub books.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 7:51 PM Aravind R
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> use bookworm in windows PC, @voicealloudreader in
android and dolfin
>> >> easy reader app in IOS for reading EPUB books boss.
>> >>
>> >> On 10/01/2024, Gajendra Vyas
 wrote:
>> >> > Hi every body ,
>> >> >
>> >> > Can you suggest epub reader for p c , to open this
book ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks ,
>> >> >
>> >> > Gajendra vyas
>> >> >
>> >> > Mobile : 9427065866
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>> >> accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>> >> > On Behalf Of harish kotian
>> >> > Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 4:38 PM
>> >> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Omkar Pawaskar
>> >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Need the Information about
original Mahabharata
>> >> > Epic
>> >> and
>> >> > shrimad bhagwat Katha inaccessible format.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Omkar
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Incidentally, I just finished a very insightful
book on The Vedas
>> >> > and
>> >> > Upanishads for children by Rupa Pai.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, this was not the title you were looking for,
I am sure you will
>> >> > like
>> >> > reading it. So, I am attaching it for you.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Harish
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1/7/2024 11:31 AM, Omkar Pawaskar wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you very much sir.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>

Re: [AI] A historic moment for entire community

[harish kotian]

Hi Vinod

A very hearty congratulation from the entire AI family. It is a huge 
achievement!!!


Harish Kotian


On 12/21/2023 7:51 PM, Sandeep Singh wrote:

Oh my God, that's amazing news!!
Congratulations Asudani ji!
Thanks for sharing the news, ma'am

On 12/21/23, Gauri Sen  wrote:

City Sindhi poet Asudani is 2023 Sahitya Akademi award winner
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/city-sindhi-poet-asudani-is-2023-sahitya-akademi-award-winner/articleshow/106167093.cms

“I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters
to create many ripples.”

With kind regards,
Gauri Sen
Senior Personal Assistant,
Ministry of Defence
Defence Research and Development Organisation
  Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [AI] UDID related questions

[harish kotian]

Hi Yd

A few things that Minar has missed:

To obtain a proper disability certificate, you need to get one from a 
government civil hospital.


Usually a particular day

 in a week is allotted for it, you need to find it before hand before 
you make a visit.


While seeking for a disability certificate, also mention you need UDID 
card and optionally railway concession.


Preferably be there before 9 am.

UDID is evolving and it is designed to be a single point of 
authentication disability. It is linked to Adhar. It is supposed to be a 
single point of availing disability services. Disability services is 
essentially driven by states and services are yet to be built around 
UDID. Surely, it will happen over time.


Harish

On 12/15/2023 12:54 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:

Hi friends,
A few questions if y'all don't mind:

1. I've been hearing about two things: UDID, and disability certificate. From 
the context of discussions it appears they are not the same thing. In that case:
1.1. Why two separate documents are necessary to prove disability?
1.2. Which of the two is most important?
1.3. Can you get one without the other?

2. Now that I have Aadhaar card, what is my next most important step towards 
legal recognition of disability and inclusion in India? What is the procedure 
to follow that step?
3. From former discussions here it appears the whole country is not on the same 
page as central Government, so that some states rebel from Central Government 
regulation. For example there was talk of West Bengal not accepting UDID 
procedure or some sort. I'm in Mathura Vrindavana. Is there any 
location-specific context I should be aware of here?

Thanks friends.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:16 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for 
banking facilities?)

Yamuna,
the part where you've quoted from Section 2(1)(A), it is not in the 1st July 
master circular; it is from the 1st October 2018 master circular.

On 12/14/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)  wrote:

The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope
for the best. Thanks.



From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
To: AccessIndia 
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
for banking facilities?)



Better to send in english only



On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Rahul,

Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently
well? If you can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This
will be my first sort-of activist action in India! Quite nervous.



Yamuna Jivana dasa



From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 ] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
To: AccessIndia mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required
for banking facilities?)



Well written. Lets take it forward



On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo),
mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Rahul and all on this thread,



I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I
plan to send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the
letter to see if it makes sense in the context of legal or
professional style letters in the Indian context. Don’t be confused
about my name: I used my legal birth documents name in the letter.
Also please see if the translation into Hindi which follows after the
English, makes sense – the translation was done by Google translate.



Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter
is below. Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa



Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi
script after the English below, using Google Translate.

Dear Shashanki,



This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer
formerly from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife
Sherry Ann Khandoo. I trust you are well.



As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to
close my NRI account and convert to local account. I also now have
acquired Aadhaar card to facilitate this process.



Before doing this, I wish to clarify that for my local account I wish
to use my own fingerprint to sign all account opening documents.
Previously when we opened my NRI account it was suggested by you that
my wife must sign all my documents. I have since learnt that as per
RBI guidelines, people who cannot use pen signatures such as the
blind, 

Moderator: off-topicRe: [AI] NPRDs Msg on International Day for PwDs

[harish kotian]

Murlidharan

Please understand this list cannot be abused for furthering your 
political narrative.


This has been made very clear to you in the past.

However, you have failed to understand and appreciate our stand.

If you don't mend your ways, I will have to take you off the list. Last 
time, I had kept you on moderated mode.



Your ranting on one of the participant  of the middle east conflict 
states it all.


We have got nothing to do in middle east and this list is India centric.

Please treat this as a final warning


Harish Kotian

Moderator

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On 12/1/2023 12:00 PM, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:


December 1, 2023

The National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled (NPRD) extends 
its greetings on the International Day of Persons with Disabilities. 
While many issues concerning disabled persons will form part of the 
observance, in the current global context, we feel that it is 
necessary to draw attention to the plight of the disabled people of 
Palestine.


*NPRD Message on World Disability Day***

Since 1992, December 3 is observed as the International Day of Persons 
with Disabilities, for promoting the rights and well-being of persons 
with disabilities. The objective being, to highlight the importance of 
their existence, inclusion, acceptance and participation. The theme 
for this year is "*/United in action to rescue and achieve the SDGs 
for, with and by persons with disabilities/*".


At the commemorative event on December 1 at the UN this year, one of 
the five pillars around which the discussion focused was “Peace”. It 
should need no underlining that peace is the essential prerequisite 
for any progress towards achieving any of the Sustainable Development 
Goals. One amongst the various conflicts that have lingered for long 
and is an impediment to peace is the continued occupation of Palestine 
and the expansionist policies of Israel.


It needs recall that**in 1919, immediately after the end of the First 
World War, the  British acquired a mandate from the League of Nations 
to rule over Palestine, which was part of the then Ottoman Empire. 
<https://www.un.org/unispal/history2/origins-and-evolution-of-the-palestine-problem/part-i-1917-1947/>At 
that time there were only 60,000 Jews in Palestine as against 7,50,000 
Muslims, mostly Arabs (A.G. Noorani: Islam and Jihad, 2002). But the 
British Foreign Secretary A. J. Balfour declared that the “four great 
powers are committed to Zionism”, thus proclaiming the foundation of 
the future Israel.


Having displaced lakhs of original inhabitants in 1948 to create 
Israel, the occupiers have gone on not only to ruthlessly occupy major 
parts of Palestinian land but also to heap untold miseries, depriving 
the Palestinians of basic human needs, dignity, rights and freedoms. 
Another form of apartheid has been put in place. This view has also 
been endorsed by Tamir Pardo, former head of Mossad 
<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/06/israel-imposing-apartheid-on-palestinians-says-former-mossad-chief>.


Viewing the current events, divorced from the context of 1948 
<https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.13169/arabstudquar.38.1.0402>and 
later would be a travesty of history. The long-drawn struggle of the 
Palestinian people against Israeli occupation, for reclaiming their 
homeland, even while committing to an imposed two-State solution had 
received worldwide support including that of India. It is another 
matter that a shift in geopolitics has seen the abandonment of the 
Palestinian cause of late by many including the Arab regimes under 
mounting pressure from the US and its  Western allies.


The loss of lives and debilitating injuries in Palestine consequent to 
the Israeli attacks is horrendous. The savagery is laid bare in the 
unprecedented scale of the Israeli genocidal assaults, almost 
flattening large parts of Gaza, backed to the hilt by the US and its 
allies. Even if it were to be considered to be in response to the 
Hamas attacks of October 7, 2023, it is totally disproportionate. It 
is estimated that it has, since then, ruthlessly killed at least 
15,000 people till date.


The gruesome barbarity hasn’t spared women, children, the disabled and 
the ill. The dead include 6,150 children, some of whom are infants. UN 
Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said that the Gaza Strip was 
becoming "a graveyard for children” 
<https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-chief-says-gaza-becoming-graveyard-children-2023-11-06/>. 
Another 242 (including 57 children) have been killed in the Occupied 
West Bank. In Gaza around 36,000 people (75 per cent of them children 
and women) and 2,750 people in the Occupied West Bank have been 
inflicted with debilitating injuries, which may ultimately lead to 
disabilities.


These figures coming out of Palestine, however, do not record the 
casualties inflicted on persons with disabilities or the numbers who 
may have become dis

Moderator: Re: [AI] Request to add me in stock market group

[harish kotian]

All

Please do not  cluster the list. In case you want to join the group, 
please get in touch directly with them.


This is not relevant to rest and off-topic.

Harish Kotian

Moderator


On 11/30/2023 1:42 PM, Saravanan K wrote:

I am also willing to join in such group.


On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:34 PM Yasir Jan  wrote:

Can you ad me there
Thanks in advance

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 12:08 PM Satguru Rathi
 wrote:

Now, how does this help?
You could have at lease shared the method to get connected to
that group. No offense meant, but this may result more
meaningless emails such as of mine.

With best regards,

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On 11/30/2023 10:51 AM, Prerna Sobti wrote:

Yes on whatsapp i am part of trading group
Best

Prerna Sobti


On Nov 30, 2023, at 8:05 AM, Yasir Jan
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 Dear friends I want to ask u that is there group of
visually impaired persons on whatsapp or on Any social meia
platform
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Moderator: Off-topic Re: [AI] Make This Thanksgiving Special for Kashish!李

[harish kotian]

Hi

Why is this forwarded on the list. I suspect it to be in error.

This thread is closed with immediate effect.

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On 11/24/2023 3:50 PM, Ritu Jain wrote:

Kashish is 6 yr old child with blindness, lost her mother and struggling

to get quality education

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With Thanksgiving just around the corner, I want to share stories of
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Kashish is a 6-year-old blind girl from a small village in India. When we
found her, she was in the school with her brother with a burn injury on her
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every day so that her father can earn a daily wage for the family. Though
Kashish visits school every day, she is not enrolled in the school as a
student because of her blindness.


*Because of you, Kashish is now enrolled in the Arunodaya (Sunrise) for
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Re: [AI] having some critical problem in my pc. And my Intro

[harish kotian]

Hi

Sometimes, on moving to Windows11 some device driverrs give trouble. Was 
the upgrade to Windows11 was a normal one or did you force an upgrade?


Now, we don't really know if there is a hardware issue or the driver is 
a culprit.


If you boot with a Linux flavour by a live CD you can find it out if the 
mic works here.


Harish


On 11/21/2023 1:15 PM, UDIT Pandey wrote:

hi all,
I am Udit. A student. Living in UP.
I am Using dell vostro 3500 (original came with windows 10) and now, 
its got the upgrade of windows 11. I upgraded it to windows 11. As 
required by the need. now, coming back to the problem. My internal 
microphone is not working properly. I have done everything I could. I 
resseted windows 11 and tried going back to windows 10 and again to 
windows 11. But no fix. Kindly, help me out.

my nvda is latest, my windows 11 is latest.
my laptop configuration are:
processor intel I3 11TH jen with 2 cores. 8GB of RAM, 256GB of SSD, 
1TB of HDD.

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Re: [AI] Question regarding this group

[harish kotian]

Hi

This group was started by Kiran Kaja. I am the moderator and I have to 
maintain, in the sense the discussion is within the boundary set.



There are so many NGO's as members because this has grown to become an 
important  place for information and to get the sense of the disabled 
persons voice.



There may be officials of MSJE as members, they or anyone else cannot 
exert undue influence.


We make concerted efforts to be equidistant with everyone.

This is a platform of everyone and we seldom make a post. We encourage 
community participation and that I suppose why it is popular because one 
can easily relate to it.



Harish


On 11/18/2023 2:13 PM, Ashutosh Singhal wrote:

Hi,
I am just curious about this nice Google Group and I have the 
following question:

* Who made this Google Group? What does Admin do?
* How so many NGOs have joined this Google Group? It is rare to see so 
many Indian NGOs on the same platform.
* Does This Group have any Government Officers from the Department of 
Empowerment of Persons With Disabilities or something like that?
I hope I will get responses on all of the above questions. Thank you 
in advance.

Regards:
Ashutosh Singhal
My contact number is:
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Re: [AI] Denial of SIM card for blind persons

[harish kotian]

Hi

Pl find my comment inline, with  in a new line.

Harish


On 11/17/2023 8:59 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:


Hi Harish,

Sorry for my ignorance but I’m a new-comer to Indian bureaucracy and 
systems.


Please can you explain the following terminology in your below post:

CCPD:

  Chief commissioner for persons with disability

Aires verification:

  Iris is one of the means of biometric verification. It goes by 
the premise, that iris pattern is unique. This may not work for 
visually disabled persons


the gallery:


 the customercare of mobile providers


everification:

  Biometric verification using the Adhar infrastructure. Adhar 
infrastructure has citizen data with biometric


PFA:

  please find attached 


Harish


Thanks lots.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *harish kotian

*Sent:* Friday, November 17, 2023 2:45 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* [AI] Denial of SIM card for blind persons

All

Sometime back, there was a complaint from our member regarding the 
captioned subject.


In this connection, the issue was also taken up with CCPD. It 
transpired, that Aires verification is one of the many alternatives 
means of verification for KYC. If the person goes to the gallery in 
person, then everification need not be done. PFA the case.


Regards

Harish Kotian



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Fwd: Case No.13154/1141/2022 - Order

*Date: *



Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:20:30 +0530

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Suhas Karnik  <mailto:suhaskarni...@gmail.com>

*To: *



Harish Kotian  <mailto:hp.kot...@gmail.com>

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Date: Wed, 21 Dec, 2022, 2:06 pm
Subject: Case No.13154/1141/2022 - Order
To: suhaskarnik56 , V Raghunandan 
, K Rajaraman , 
patilshivambhausaheb , mangeshssgaykar 



Madam/Sir,

Please find attached herewith Order dated 14.12.2022 passed in this case.

Regards,

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Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment, Govt. of India,
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Re: [AI] Permission for sharing this Email List in the International Groups

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Hi

Sure, however, this is an India centric group and international audience 
may find themselves out of place. We sure, even now have international 
members.


Harish


On 11/17/2023 10:11 PM, Ashutosh Singhal wrote:

Dear Admin of this Email List,
May I send this Email List joining Email ID in the International 
Groups? we can get more diversity, Members and knowledge about Foreign 
Disabled life if we add foreign disabled here. Waiting for the reply. 
Thank you.

Regards,
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My contact number is,
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Moderator: Off-topicRe: [AI] Happy Diwali to all of you.

[harish kotian]

Pl refrain from season's greetings. These are off-topic to this list scope.


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On 11/12/2023 12:00 AM, Blind 2 Visionary wrote:

Dear All,

Wishing you all from B2V INDIA a unit of Blind to Visionaries Trust, a 
joyful and prosperous Diwali! May the festival of lights bring warmth, 
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Re: [AI] Book Announcement: Pighalti Barf by Savita Inder Gupta

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Hi

Are all these also uploaded at Sugamyapustakalaya? Recently, I searched 
for a title published here at Sugamyapustakalaya but did not find them 
in the recent books listings.


Harish


On 11/10/2023 11:19 AM, NAB Delhi Helpline wrote:


Spirotech द्वारा समर्थित नेशनल एसोसिएशन फॉर द ब्लाइंड-दिल्ली की डिजिटल 
लाइब्रेरी को इस पुस्तक की उपलब्धता की घोषणा करते हुए प्रसन्नता हो रही है।


पुस्तक का नाम है: पिघलती बर्फ, लघुकथा संग्रह  (Pighalti Barf ) और 
लेखिका: सविता इन्द्र गुप्ता (Savita Inder Gupta)


बहुत दिनों से सोनू एक खास खिलौने के लिए हठ कर रहा था। आज पापा ऑफिस से 
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Re: [AI] Surgeons Perform World's First Eye Transplant

[harish kotian]

Hi YD

I would encourage you to also try out the midbrain activation process. 
Technically, you may be overage for it. However, as I understand you are 
a lot into meditation, you may actually be better placed. I must admit, 
I have not much information first hand


 Just in case you have not heard about it.

Harish


On 11/11/2023 12:17 AM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:

Hi all,
It's interesting this was posted here today by Shahnaz, because just two
nights earlier I was chatting with Google Bard's AI project, and learning
about current trends in optic nerve regeneration in people born blind who
have never seen previously in their lives.
There are now non-invasive magnetic stimulation procedures to force the
brain to recognize light activity even if the person had never seen before.
Coupled with stem-cell treatment and regrowing or repairing the optic
nerves, amazing results may be possible. Can you imagine seeing for the
first time - a feeling, a sensation you have never known before? It's like
magic to a person born blind. Perhaps those who lost their sight later will
never understand the excitement of dealing with the unknown in such a
positive possibility.

Just in case someone might be interested, here's my chat history with Bard.
I hope list moderators will consider this on-topic, relevant and
appropriate. If not please advise me further. List members are welcome to
write me directly further as well or even discuss on voice call:

My discussion with Bard

Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
Can the optic nerve be extracted from a person to re-use in a defective
case?

Bard replied:
The optic nerve is a bundle of nerve fibers that connects the eye to the
brain. It is responsible for transmitting visual information from the eye to
the brain. The optic nerve is a very delicate structure, and it is not
currently possible to transplant the optic nerve in humans.

There are a number of challenges that need to be overcome before optic nerve
transplantation can become a reality. One challenge is that the optic nerve
is a very complex structure, and it is difficult to accurately reconnect the
nerve fibers after they have been transplanted. Another challenge is that
the optic nerve is susceptible to damage from inflammation and scarring.

Researchers are working on developing new technologies that could overcome
these challenges and make optic nerve transplantation possible in the
future. For example, some researchers are developing new surgical techniques
that could help to minimize damage to the optic nerve during
transplantation. Other researchers are developing new biomaterials that
could help to protect the optic nerve from inflammation and scarring.

In addition to optic nerve transplantation, researchers are also exploring
other ways to restore vision to people with optic nerve damage. For example,
some researchers are developing new stem cell therapies that could help to
regenerate damaged optic nerve cells. Other researchers are developing new
brain implants that could bypass the damaged optic nerve and directly
stimulate the visual center of the brain.

It is still too early to say when optic nerve transplantation or other
treatments will be available to restore vision to people with optic nerve
damage. However, research in this area is progressing rapidly, and there is
hope that new treatments will be available in the near future.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
Tell me more about research around stimulating the visual cortex of the
brain in blind people who have never seen since birth. I am totally blind
from birth, now 47 years old, and wish to experience any form of sight
possible for the first time ever. I have bioptic atrophy and my blindness is
absolute.

Bard replied:
Research on stimulating the visual cortex of the brain in blind people who
have never seen since birth is a rapidly developing field. There are a
number of different approaches being explored, and some early results have
been promising.

One approach is to use electrical stimulation to directly stimulate the
visual cortex. This can be done by implanting electrodes into the brain or
by using non-invasive methods such as transcranial magnetic stimulation
(TMS).

Another approach is to use optogenetics to stimulate the visual cortex.
Optogenetics is a technique that uses light to control the activity of
neurons. In this approach, researchers use light to activate neurons in the
visual cortex that are responsive to visual stimuli.

Both of these approaches have been shown to produce some level of vision in
blind people. However, the results have been mixed, and there are still many
challenges to overcome before these approaches can be used to restore
functional vision to blind people.

One challenge is that the visual cortex is a very complex structure, and it
is difficult to accurately target the specific neurons that need to be
stimulated. Another challenge is that the brain needs to learn to interpret
the electrical or 

[AI] Moderator: AccessIndia list guidelines

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to preampt seasons greetings,  I thought it best, to refresh our 
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Moderator: advertisement- Re: [AI] Unlock Your Creativity with Connecting Dreams Content Writing Services

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This is clearly an advert post. This is not permitted.

This thread is closed for traffic. Please don't repeat it again.


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Re: [AI] Query regarding Braille ATM Card of Union Bank of India

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Hi

The Braille marking ATM card is just the same as any ATM card with the 
same privileges. It has a Braille of letter U for Union bank. It helps 
us identify the card.


Harish


On 11/7/2023 2:51 PM, avinash shahi wrote:

Hi
My wife today went to apply for ATM card in her home town in Ghazipur
Utter Pradesh. After innitial reluctance, the manager of the branch
agreed to provide ATM. He however informed her that she will get
Braille ATM card as per the bank policy within ten days. Is anyone on
the list uses Braille ATM card? moreover do all cash dispenser
machines accept Braille ATM card?
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Re: [AI] Regarding issueing new sim cards for visually impaired

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Hi

Many years at Jio they were using thumb impression for Adhar enabled 
authorisation / verification.


I suppose this option should be still available. Try asking for it.

Harish

On 10/31/2023 5:34 PM, Raghavendra Raju wrote:
Dear access Indians this is raghavendra raju from visakhapatnam most 
of our visually impaired persons facing difficulty in getting SIM 
cards from all service providers they are asking to blink eyes of the 
visually impaired person who really wants to take sim card from the 
service provider even though they submit their Aadhar card and their 
asking medical certificate issued by the doctor in some cases there 
will be a name corrections in medical certificate also is there any 
solution for this most of the visual impaired persons are not even 
able to blink their eyes so what is the solution for this even though 
people who are using same sim card from 10 years also been facing this 
problem is there any circular for visually impaired persons to get SIM 
card from the telecom regulatory authority of India please let me know 
thank you with regards Raghavendra Raju from Visakhapatnam

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Re: [AI] my aadhaar is not updating

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Which field are you trying to update? Try changing 1 field at a time 
instead of altering multiple fields in one go. I suppose, altering some 
fields can be done at Adhar centres. I understand it can also be done by 
postman, however,  you have to be at the postoffice before 9 AM.


Harish


On 10/31/2023 6:11 PM, Manish Sahu wrote:

Hi
I am Manish Sahu
And I am visual impaired person
When I get my Aadhaar updated, I am getting rejected again and again 
and the reason why it is being rejected is not even being told and I 
am facing a lot of problems.




On Tue, 31 Oct, 2023, 5:35 pm Raghavendra Raju, 
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Dear access Indians this is raghavendra raju from visakhapatnam
most of our visually impaired persons facing difficulty in getting
SIM cards from all service providers they are asking to blink eyes
of the visually impaired person who really wants to take sim card
from the service provider even though they submit their Aadhar
card and their asking medical certificate issued by the doctor in
some cases there will be a name corrections in medical certificate
also is there any solution for this most of the visual impaired
persons are not even able to blink their eyes so what is the
solution for this even though people who are using same sim card
from 10 years also been facing this problem is there any circular
for visually impaired persons to get SIM card from the telecom
regulatory authority of India please let me know thank you with
regards Raghavendra Raju from Visakhapatnam
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Moderator: Re: [AI] I need job

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 All

Yes, sharing of personal information in a public place like ours is 
particularly prohibited in our list guidelines. Everyone needs to 
respect this.


Harish Kotian

Moderator



On 10/26/2023 2:47 PM, Minar Singh wrote:

Hi Manoj,
Please do not share anyone's mobile details on public platforms. It is 
good to share a mobile number and other contact details on personal 
email ID.


On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 1:52 PM  wrote:

Nikhil,

You can also think of approaching BRA in Delhi for some job
oriented training. They usually place the people they train.



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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 On Behalf Of Manoj Yadav
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] I need job

You can contact to Annapoorna Kaur, Shi is parshally blind. she is
also aluminy from nab Delhi. Shi is running her own restorent in
Sant Nagar Delhi--84. You can work with her if you wish. Her
contact no. is 8375873820.

On 10/24/23, Nikhil Mishra <9873834250nik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear sir and mam
> Iam nikhil mishra from nuw delhi .
> iam visualy impairnt person .
> I need a job please help me .
> I am passed 10th class only .
> any ngo provide this type of service please share contact number .
> i will doing a very hard work please help me .
> my cnt no is 9873834250
> thanks regard
> nikhil mishra
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Re: [AI] Hairish Kotian!

[harish kotian]

Hi George

Allthese ID's are active and in use:

har...@accessindia.org.in

hp.kot...@gmail.com

hpkot...@outlook.com

even the rbi id is active hpkot...@rbi.org.in although this id is 
checked relatively less.


Harish


On 10/19/2023 11:05 AM, george.abrah...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Harish,

Can you please share your personal Email ID. I seem to have a number 
of them.


Thanks,

George

George Abraham

CEO

Score Foundation

17/107 LGF

Vikram Vihar

Lajpatnagar 4

New Delhi 110024

Ph: 011 45500380

Mob: 9810934040

Email: george.abrah...@gmail.com

Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org.in 



National Helpdesk for the Blind: 18005320469

Twitter: @georgebhai

Scan & donate:

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Re: [AI] ListServ commands

[harish kotian]

hi

Yes, our list runs under googlegroups. Pl find the commands:

support.google.com

Use mail commands to interact with groups - Google Workspace Learning 
Center <#>


Communicate quickly with group owners, managers, or members by adding 
commands to the addresses of email messages you send to a group. To join 
or leave a group, you can also use commands, which let yo


 https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/10563581?hl=en 



Harish


On 10/19/2023 9:33 AM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:


Hi Folks,

Can someone suggest how to send listserv commands to this list?

Things like changing to temporary no E-mails or changing to daily 
digests Etc.


Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Blind 
Graduates' Forum of India

*Sent:* Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:11 PM
*To:* accessindia 
*Subject:* [AI] BGFI’s Session on Sound Heeling- Change in Time

Dear all,

Greetings from Blind Graduates Forum of India, [BGFI]. BGFI brings to 
you yet another  enlightening in-person session in collaboration with 
Yashwantrao Chavan Center on Sound Healing on 29^th October, 2023.  
This session will train the participants to calm their mind and be 
able to better deal with the multiple challenges faced on a daily basis.



  Details of the session:

Date:  Sunday, 29th October, 2023.

Time:  4:00 PM to 6:00 PM.

Venue:  Yashwantrao Chavan Auditorium, Opp. Mantralaya, Near 
Sachivalaya Gymkhana, Nariman Point.



  About The Speaker

Upasana Makati is a multi-award-winning D advisor, author, and 
founder and publisher of White Print. She became the pioneer of 
braille journalism in the country when she launched White Print — 
India’s first English lifestyle magazine in Braille — in 2013.


Ever since, Upasana has continued to champion diversity & inclusion 
across myriad industries via consultancy, corporate training sessions, 
and educational talks. Her spiritual journey began when Usui Reiki 
came into her life, six years ago. She practices various healing 
techniques like Reiki, Magnified Healing, Emotional Freedom Technique, 
Sound Healing, Shamanic Smudging, and Quantum Field Ancestral Healing 
among others.



  Benefits of the session

●You will feel relaxed and gain peace of mind through guided meditation.

●You will learn to use the power of sound to energize your body and soul.

Healing is a process by which we can get rid of our anxieties, 
rejuvenate ourselves, and experience peace and happiness. So, if you 
want to use this opportunity to have a unique experience, you are most 
welcomed.


Kindly register yourself in the following link given below –

https://forms.gle/q7Bpvfv3FmY2FbL38

In case of any queries, you can connect with us on our official number:

+919892145699

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Linkedin:

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Re: [AI] Will persons with disabilities enjoy the ICC World Cup coverage?

[harish kotian]

Hi

I found there is commentry available on some stations of AIR like 
Nagpur, Jabalpur etc. You can use the newsonair for it.


Harish


On 10/5/2023 1:59 PM, shruti pushkarna wrote:

Hi all,

Sharing my latest column on the inaccessible media coverage of 
sporting events, especially that the Cricket World Cup kicks off today.


https://www.mxmindia.com/columns/will-persons-with-disabilities-enjoy-the-icc-world-cup-coverage/

Best,
Shruti
9818777201
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[AI] Creating music using AI

[harish kotian]

Hi

AI is fast evolving and I think much faster then we can anticipate.

Watch this video, which is in Hindi which takes you the full process of 
creating a tune, filling lyrics to it and finally singing it with the 
created instruments.


www.youtube.com

How I Made an Entire Song Using Free ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE Tools - 
[HINDI] <#>


Hi guys, so in this video I have shown you the entire process of How I 
Made an Entire Song Using Free ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE Tools.I've always 
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Re: [AI] IOS 17 accessibility

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Hi

Go to settings, general, standby and notification. it would be on by 
default. turn it off.


Harish


On 9/28/2023 8:23 PM, Avichal Bhatnagar wrote:

Hello list members,
I've done all that I could, but the problem persists.

On 9/23/23, Sagar Verma  wrote:

Hello there, firstly speaking I use an iPhone 13 mini, I'm on 17.0.1, when
I'm unlocking my screen or waking screen, voiceover is announcing the time
as normal.
Try to reset all your settings? Because sometimes when you update from one
release to the major release, certain issues might assist, settings greater
than general greater than transfer reset reset all that will not affect your
data. You will have to reset your home screen layout again.

With kind regards,
Sagar.
Join my WhatsApp group in which we assist users from an accessibility point
of view, regarding apple and apples services and products.
Join the jailbreak community if you want to get the most freedom out of your
iOS devices, if you are into customisations.
Whatsapp+61415104029.

Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Sep 2023, at 06:02, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
 wrote:

Ya that’s a known bug and only the future update can fix
Sent from my iPhone


On 23-Sep-2023, at 3:54 AM, sagar Akash 
wrote:


Kindly update ios17.01

On Fri, 22 Sept, 2023, 6:39 pm Avichal Bhatnagar, 
wrote:

The problem which I am facing in my iPhone 12 after upgrading to IOS
17 is the inability of voiceover to announce the time after pressing
the power key. It only says how many notifications are there.

On 9/22/23, Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam  wrote:

Also they have just release a patch 17.0.1. Please update and see if
the bug fix is there.

On 22/09/2023, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan 
wrote:

Hi everyone, I understand that some of us are facing this issue with
the
new
iOS iOS. It is a bug but I think there is a work around that you can
try
basically go to settings then accessibility voice over the last
option is
to
increase the double touch screen response by default. It is set as
25.
You
can increase it to 35 or something 35 or 45 which ever works for you.
I
think it temporarily solve the problem Until they find a permanent
fix.
This
will definitely work. Thank you.
Sent from my iPhone


On 22-Sep-2023, at 7:05 AM, B. R. Nautial 
wrote:

I also upgraded IOS 17.00 on my i phone 13 & its working fine. if
you
already upgraded IOS of your mobile, then, no question of running
Beta
version at all. Its your confusion only. I already installed Beta
version
of 17.00 on my mobile & its also showing Beta VErsion if you turn
Beta
version. its only an icon on your mobile inside the Update software
obtion, so you need not to worry at all. You are using final version
of
IOS 17.00 on your mobile. Please note, in future, no need to
download
Beta
version on your mobile. its only for developers.
If you find problem on your mobile, you can rest your IOS settings
again.
- Original Message - From: "Praveen Guru"

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Subject: [AI] IOS 17 accessibility



hi all, i upgraded my iPhone 12 to IOS 17 and the touch response is
not working well, i.e. it is very hard to dubble tap and go into
applications. i researched online and it seams it is still in beta
version! any solution will be helpful if any one has tried... Kind
regards

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Re: [AI] Any Linux user here?

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Hi Minar

I am unsure if you are aware of Windows sub system for Linux, which is 
popularly called as WSL. I had in the passed installed it on Windows 10. 
The advantage is that it is running Linux under Windows and with ease 
you can switch between the two. You can install Linux build like Ubunto, 
Kali etc.



HTH

Harish



On 9/26/2023 8:58 PM, Minar Singh wrote:

Hello access  Indians,
Anyone running Linux on vertual box? Please write to me on my personal
email id singhmi...@gmail.com
I'm facing some issues while installing vertual box on window 11 Dell laptop.



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Moderator: off-topic Re: [AI]Limited offer from Hostinger.in

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Hi

This is off-topic. Please don't do it again. In the past you had made a 
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This thread is closed.

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Re: [AI] Regarding 0 balance FASTAG for four wheeler

[harish kotian]

Hi

Probably, the thinking is  that there is a modification to the content 
of the RC.They cannot do the changes to the existing RC so logically it 
seems ok calling it duplicate. The status does not change.


Regards

Harish


On 9/15/2023 12:31 PM, Satguru Rathi wrote:
One thing is not clear in the circular though that if the existing RC 
is converted to the Divyangjan category, the RTOs are insisting upon 
getting the duplicate RC to reflect the change instead of issuing the 
new modified RC and there are no clear instructions in this regard.
My concern is that if one has purchased the vehicle before this 
circular and now wants to convert his/her RC, why would one want his 
RC to show "Duplicate" when it is not their fault at all.


With best regards,

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On 9/15/2023 12:11 PM, Satguru Rathi wrote:
For those who are looking for the circular to get their new RC 
registered as "Divyangjan without availing GST concession" or who 
want to convert their existing RC to the above category, I am sharing 
the direct link to download the circular from the ministry's website:

https://morth.nic.in/sites/default/files/circulars_document/Divyangjan-Ownership%20type%20RC-03.02.23.pdf

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On 9/15/2023 10:32 AM, Satguru Rathi wrote:

Hi,
While I appreciate the efforts put by the advocacy organizations and 
individuals, few and few genuine cases are taken up and focus is 
largely on improving the accessibility of the apps or 
infrastructure. Cases such as acceptance of UDID card universally, 
and this one where Toll exemption is provided but there is no clear 
guideline or method to avail it are not taken up with the relevant 
authorities. Even if someone tried taking up these cases, the result 
is not as desired.
At Gulati  sir: the circular to record ownership under divyangjan 
without availing GST concession for all PWDs came in this February 
and most RTOs are not aware of it and they simply record the 
ownership as mentioned by you even if it is wrong as your vehicle is 
not modified but your RC mentions it as modified.


With best regards,
Satguru Rathi.
Mobile: +919871489945
On 9/14/2023 9:13 PM, Baldev Gulati wrote:

Dear Satguru,
Greetings
As mentioned by you, the size of the RC is the size of the credit
card, however, the 'divyangjan' is still mentioned on the RC. One of
the columns in the form, under the exempted category is vehicle
mechanically modified. Our vehicle is not mechanically modified. I
have submitted the paper under this category only as there is no other
category under which I can submit my papers. I believe that it would
be rejected as soon as I attach my disability certificate. It is quite
unlikely that I would be getting the 0 balance tag. I believe there
would not be anybody across the country who would be benefiting from
this exemption as I spoke to plenty of car users with visual
impairment and none of them have the same.
Regards
Baldev Gulati
Assistant Professor,
Department of Social Work,
Aditi Mahavidyalaya,
University of Delhi

T: +91 9811720845




On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 10:20 AM Satguru Rathi  wrote:

Hi,

I don't know any specific person who has got the 0 balance fastag and am planning to 
apply myself on this 

Moderator: Re: [AI] download this file

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Please don't send unsolicited files on the list.

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On 9/3/2023 3:15 PM, Techno Boy wrote:

kindly download this file
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Re: [AI] Availability of smart-glasses, their cost and functionality

[harish kotian]

Hi Pranav

My experience too was far from conducive. I was refraining to share, 
However, in the interest of disabled persons I think it is essential to 
share it.



I first saw the device in the exhibit area of PurpleFest. I saw 
potential in it and offered to help in as a user.



I was in dialog with the main person behind it. I soon realized he was 
not responsive to user feedback and out of frustration I made it very 
plain, that if you are  making it for the blind it better be with the 
blind and not for the blind. I also made it clear I was disappointed 
with his approach. I had earlier offered to visit his office at 
Bangalore. My mail put him off and he did not consider worthwhile to 
provide his address and it was an abrupt end to it.



I am sharing this only with the purpose that one is informed of user 
experience. I have no need to defame them in any way. I am happy you had 
a better experience with them.


Harish.


On 8/31/2023 12:59 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:


Hi Kanchan,

I agree about the poor demonstration skills of the staff. I tested the 
following items.


 1. The reading, which was something that they showed me.
 2. The object identification which is what I was looking for. I
wanted it to tell me if there were staircases ahead of me which it
did. The glasses also told me the distance to each detected obstacle.

Pranav

*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
 *On Behalf Of *Kanchan Pamnani

*Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2023 10:35 AM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Availability of smart-glasses, their cost and 
functionality


Pranav, I have seen the glasses in 2 cities and I am sorry to say both 
the persons were not able to demonstrate properly and I could not get 
the exact benefit.


K

*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
] *On Behalf Of *Pranav Lal

*Sent:* 31 August 2023 07:32
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Availability of smart-glasses, their cost and 
functionality


The glasses are available across India. There are personnel based in 
different cities of India who can demonstrate them to you.


In Hyderabad, contact the L.V.Prasad eye institute. They have these 
glasses.


Pranav

*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
 *On Behalf Of *Mohammad Ehtesham

*Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2023 1:07 AM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Availability of smart-glasses, their cost and 
functionality


is it available in hyderabad also? if yes how can we get information 
about it thanks


On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 18:03 Pranav Lal  wrote:

Hi Saurav,

Other list members have already told you about SHG technologies.
Their smart glasses as of this writing are the only game in town
at a reasonable price point. Your next option are the envision
glasses. Be warned, they are over 3 times the price and do
virtually the same thing as the SHG glasses. I suspect the SHG
glasses are better but I cannot say for sure because I have not
tried the Envision glasses.

The most interesting part of the SHG glasses is their walking mode
which is under further development. I have tested these glasses at
their Bangalore office and they appear to be promising. What are
your use cases?

Pranav

*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 *On Behalf Of *Saurav Hegde
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2023 11:01 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* [AI] Availability of smart-glasses, their cost and
functionality

Greetings all,

I am interested  to know, that are smart glasses available for
sale in India.

If yes, how to buy them?and what is the cost?

If anyone has tried them, what is the functionality and features
they offer and how good are they.

Where can you get a demo, especially in Pune

Regards,

Saurav Hegde

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Re: [AI] UDID card applied - further steps

[harish kotian]

Hi

How old is your disability certificate?

Did you apply for UDID along with disability certificate


I had applied for both separately and it worked for me only when I went 
to the civil hospital again. Until then, it kept showing the same info 
for me.


Harish

On 8/28/2023 10:20 PM, nehal jain wrote:

Dear list members
Hope you all are doing well.
I am writing to seek clarification /guidance on the following.
I have been issued a disability certificate through the government 
hospital  and now applied for UDID card on the swavlambancard.gov.in 
 website.
the current status on website is showing "*Your application status is 
submitted. You may contact to your District Medical authority for 
further action".*
*My question is weather i am required to visit the hospital again for 
the UDID card or the application submitted online will be processed 
online itself. *

*Kindly guide me regarding the same. *
Thanks and best regards.
Nehal Jain
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Re: [AI] Congrachulations to Amar Jain

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Hi

I suppose the link which was reffered was:

www.facebook.com

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See posts, photos and more on Facebook.

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On 8/16/2023 3:29 PM, Shyam M. Sayanekar wrote:
No, I haven't sent any link. The news of his address has appeared on 
the face book.
- Original Message - From: "Parimala Bhat" 


To: 
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Subject: Re: [AI] Congrachulations to Amar Jain



have you sent the link? if you have, i can not find it.

On 8/16/23, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
Hello members, just now listened to Amar Jain's address delivered 
before the

Hounerable High Court. Very confedant and assertive. He is an enjal of
Advocacy. The sound is slightly cracking at some places, but the 
address is
fully audible. Amar makes the VI community feel very proud. 
Congrachulations

to Amar and keep it up.
Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar

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Re: [AI] submission to law commission on uniform civil code

[harish kotian]

Dear Tony

In my last line of my  response, was that the whole point is to include 
us in the consultative process. There is no need to pitch for upholding 
present civil laws. The endorsement seems to uphold it maybe it may not 
be the intent. It is certainly seems to be so. It certainly be achieved 
without resorting to the endorsement route.


Harish.


On 7/27/2023 12:41 PM, Tony Kurian wrote:

Dear Harishji,

Thank you for placing your perspective for the benefit of everyone on
the list. As far as I understand, the petition does not shake hands
with regressive practices. To my mind, the larger point of the
petition is that persons with disability should be consulted while
reforming a regime impacting our lives in a large manner. To quote the
petition: “Hold Consultations
Reform of personal laws, or for that matter any law, should only be
done after wide consultations with all stakeholders. We therefore urge
the Law Commission of India, to not go ahead without adequate
consultations with all stakeholders including the disabled by hearing
their voices and that of their representative groups and
organisations.”

I hope that it is clear from my mail that endorsing the petition is
clearly a choice and not a compulsion by any stretch. With regard to
the last date for endorsement, I understand that petitioners are
constrained by the cutoff date proposed by the law commission. In the
garden of democracy, let a thousand ideas bloom. Any citizen who wishes
to petition the law commission with regard to persons with disability and
UCC can still go ahead with it until tomorrow. I hope that more such
petitions are circulated so that all of us will have the opportunity
to have an informed view.

Regards,
Tony

On 27/07/2023, shivakumar ng  wrote:

I aggrieved e with haresh sir.

Thanks,
Shivakumar.

On Thu, 27 Jul 2023, 10:52 am harish kotian,  wrote:


Dear Tony

I am afraid, the approach to redress issues raised in the petition  is
questionable. It is directly in opposition to the goal one is striving
for. It is paradoxical, you want to continue to hold back on the
practices you fought hard to get away from. For example, UNCRPD
principles strive hard to make laws disabled centric. It upheld the
right and judgement of disabled persons themselves rather than others
deciding for us what is in our interest. Here, the example you have
sited, why do you want to perpetuate the practice where the kartha in
HUF decides on the interest of disabled persons. The progressive
disabled laws are getting undermined with such islands and exceptions.
These are factors which are road blocks in its effective implementation.


One has clearly to de mark on disability and political agenda and
narratives. When the two meet it turns a dangerous mix serving the
latter at the cost of disabled persons.

If we keep all the frills away, disabled persons are better off in a UCC
regime than shaking hands with regressive practices. This raises the
question the intention of the disabled activists who have endorsed this
petition.

In the highest democratic practices, there is only 1 option to endorse.
No voice for those who do not concur with it or who desire to alter
their endorsement on a latter date.


My 2 cents on these 2 lines. Drop this exercise, instead, state that
disabled persons are also one of the important stakeholders and that the
representatives of disabled persons are included in the entire
consultative process.

   Harish Kotian


bOn 7/25/2023 8:54 PM, Tony Kurian wrote:


Dear Friends

As you may be aware, law commission has seeked response from public on
the issue of uniform civil code.  Last date to submit the same is July
28.  In the cacophony surrounding the Uniform Civil Code, the concerns
of disabled people are not getting reflected. In this context, a few
individuals have drafted response which is being put up for
endorsements. You can access and endorse it using the following link.



https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScjIlxEtiO9Q2YgC7kGLWKWqLYJ781h6UWMGnAi_v3UFia51g/viewform?vc=0=0=1=0


last date to send your endorsement is  July 27.
Regards,
Tony


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Re: [AI] Bengaluru-based eye hospital to soon start human clinical trials of indigenous gene therapy for ocular diseases

[harish kotian]

Hi

A very welcome initiative. Our indigenous efforts have earned great 
laurels in the vaccine field and one can trust our scientist to deliver 
on this area as well.


Harish Kotian


On 7/27/2023 11:08 AM, avinash shahi wrote:

Researchers from Narayana Nethralaya, a Bengaluru-based ophthalmic
hospital, are all set to start human clinical trials of indigenous
gene therapy for ocular diseases. This is the first such effort in the
country, doctors claimed.

Gene therapy is a treatment modality to correct the pathologic effects
of defective genes that are responsible for disease development.

Cost factor
“While gene therapy trials have been happening in Western countries
for over 30 years, no trials have been done in India so far. Patients
in our country are unable to get the benefits of the therapy because
of the exorbitant costs. One injection of the therapy can cost ₹7
crore and above. Many Indian patients need gene therapy, and the cost
can be reduced only if the technologies are developed indigenously,”
said Rohit Shetty, hospital chairman.

Pointing out that the plan is to initially start with gene therapy as
a solution for genetic corneal disorders such as keratoconus through
indigenously developed adeno-associated virus (AAV) vector production
and delivery, Dr. Shetty said, “The process has begun. We are awaiting
the Centre’s approval to start the trials and are hopeful of
completing the first phase of trials by early next year.”

Focused meeting
Naren Shetty, the hospital vice-chairman, said the announcement was
made after a two-day focused meeting that was held in Bengaluru from
July 22 to come out with a consensus on indigenous gene therapy
trials. The meeting was attended by over 25 prominent clinicians and
scientists from top national and international institutes in the
country.

“At the meeting, our scientists showcased how their indigenously
developed vectors and production process can significantly reduce the
cost of gene therapy to 1/20th-1/50th of the international costs. The
meeting also resulted in a consensus on establishing a national
registry for rare ophthalmic diseases and identified additional
diseases in India that urgently require gene therapy,” he said.
Clinical grade vector production
Making a presentation on indigenous gene therapy, Arkasubhra Ghosh, a
geneticist at Narayana Nethralaya Foundation’s GROW (Genes Repair and
Regeneration in  Ophthalmic Workstation) Research Laboratory, said the
process of starting the first human AAV gene therapy trials for
corneal dystrophy and the first dual AAV vector trial for  Stargardt
retinal disease had begun.

Dr. Ghosh, who is one of the authors of the National Guidelines for
Gene Therapy Product Development and Clinical Trials, said, “The
drug-making process is a major technological challenge, and we are the
first in India with the clinical grade vector production.”

Dr. Rohit Shetty said patients seeking voluntary participation in gene
therapy treatment could contact the hospital at  080--0715 or
email genetict...@narayananethralaya.com
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/bengaluru-based-eye-hospital-to-soon-start-human-clinical-trials-of-indigenous-gene-therapy-for-ocular-diseases/article67123498.ece


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Re: [AI] submission to law commission on uniform civil code

[harish kotian]

Dear Tony

I am afraid, the approach to redress issues raised in the petition  is 
questionable. It is directly in opposition to the goal one is striving 
for. It is paradoxical, you want to continue to hold back on the 
practices you fought hard to get away from. For example, UNCRPD 
principles strive hard to make laws disabled centric. It upheld the 
right and judgement of disabled persons themselves rather than others 
deciding for us what is in our interest. Here, the example you have 
sited, why do you want to perpetuate the practice where the kartha in 
HUF decides on the interest of disabled persons. The progressive 
disabled laws are getting undermined with such islands and exceptions. 
These are factors which are road blocks in its effective implementation.



One has clearly to de mark on disability and political agenda and 
narratives. When the two meet it turns a dangerous mix serving the 
latter at the cost of disabled persons.


If we keep all the frills away, disabled persons are better off in a UCC 
regime than shaking hands with regressive practices. This raises the 
question the intention of the disabled activists who have endorsed this 
petition.


In the highest democratic practices, there is only 1 option to endorse. 
No voice for those who do not concur with it or who desire to alter 
their endorsement on a latter date.



My 2 cents on these 2 lines. Drop this exercise, instead, state that 
disabled persons are also one of the important stakeholders and that the 
representatives of disabled persons are included in the entire 
consultative process.


 Harish Kotian


bOn 7/25/2023 8:54 PM, Tony Kurian wrote:


Dear Friends

As you may be aware, law commission has seeked response from public on
the issue of uniform civil code.  Last date to submit the same is July
28.  In the cacophony surrounding the Uniform Civil Code, the concerns
of disabled people are not getting reflected. In this context, a few
individuals have drafted response which is being put up for
endorsements. You can access and endorse it using the following link.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScjIlxEtiO9Q2YgC7kGLWKWqLYJ781h6UWMGnAi_v3UFia51g/viewform?vc=0=0=1=0


last date to send your endorsement is  July 27.
Regards,
Tony



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[AI] Evaluation of folding cane produced by T.K. Bansal

[harish kotian]

Hi

I got an evaluation folding cane from Dr. T. K Bansal. The cane is light 
weight and seems strong and elegant. Importantly, replacing both the 
pencil type tip and the roller tip was a breeze. The design is simple 
and effective. We don't need anybody's assistance to replace the elastic 
band or the tip. We can certainly do it by ourselves.



I have used roller tip cane in the past. However, this roller tip is 
more smoother and with slight wrist movement it moves from one side to 
other by itself.


I am impressed and I can recommend our folks on the list to consider it.

There was a reference to this cane a few days back out here.


I have checked, it is compatible with the smart cane module of Saksham.


Harish

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Re: [AI] Disappointment judgement of Delhi HC

[harish kotian]

Hi

Kanchan, had hinted something important, however, as I see her hint was 
missed entirely. I do understand, why it was not possible for her to 
spill the beans. It is important and that is the reason what I think she 
had hinted.


A few disclaimers: Firstly, I have not discussed about this with her. 
Secondly I do wear 2 hats, one as a moderator and the other in my 
individual capacity. In this instance I think it is essential to be 
doubly sure that this mail is entirely in my personal capacity.


What comes foremost in my mind is when Sant GuruNanak demoed that truth 
also is not absolute, it also has a context and that too has to be 
presented correctly.



I need to admit upfront that I am presumptuous as I have neither gone 
through the judgement nor have I read the petition.



I do recall that NPRD had issued a press note which was shared on the 
list for withdrawal of circular for UDID as a primary document to avail 
services and facilities for the disabled. I suppose, here too the 
petition would have been to withdraw the circular which has a 
requirement to possess the disability card issued by them. The court may 
have upheld the defense arguement that the ministry has the power to 
issue such circular. If this is carried as it is to the supreme court 
the verdict may not be different. In my limited opinion, the focus of 
the petition should have been to make the UDID as one of the acceptable 
document for availing the railway concession and not withdrawal of their 
circular.


 The judges will generally go by what is presented to them.So it would 
not be appropriate to say disappointing verdict rather the 
disappointment should be directed to the possible weak petition or poor 
presentation.


I suppose, what Kanchan did not say in so many words was that one should 
be extra cautious while approaching the court for the damage that it can 
do as in this instance is far more greater than taking the traditional 
approach.



I hope appropriate lessons are learnt and it is understood that this 
comment is not entirely specific to this case.


Harish.



On 6/16/2023 9:00 PM, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:
Also, we would be glad and appreciate, if anybody else could prevail 
upon the railway ministry to accept the validity of the UDID, by 
whatever means at their command


On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 8:53 PM 'Manoj Pai' via AccessIndia 
 wrote:


Ministers come and go. Thats what Railways officers tell us. Since
the 1995 Act I had petitioned and met several Railway Ministers on
matters related to PwD. The papers were sent to officers of Rail
Bhavan for action. Nothing happened just a one liner reply and
case closed. These same officer only understood Court language.

You are on the right track Murali ji.

Manoj

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android



On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 20:31, 'Manoj Pai' via AccessIndia
 wrote:
So what's stopping you from starting negotiations with the
Railways, Kanchan? The same Railways which call themselves
"Lifeline of Nation" but care a damn for divyangs? Steep
ramps, non workings wheel chairs @ railway stations, every
Railways staff park their vehicles on space reserved for PwD, 
locked PwD toilets etc.

We will all join you when you start negotiating.

Manoj

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android



On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 19:34, Kanchan Pamnani
 wrote:

I have been reading everyones comments  about their
disappointment etc. I echo the same. However this was not
a matter to be taken to court. You have to be
prudent-something gets sorted by negotiations, discussions
and requests while other issues need to be addressed by
the Courts. The Court should be the last resort and not
the first. I am sure this will get resolved and it must. I
have great respect for everyone who tries to resolve an
issue whichever way they know best.

Lets keep going-Advocacy needs everyone.

Kanchan

*From:*'Manoj Pai' via AccessIndia
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
*Sent:* 14 June 2023 00:14
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Disappointment judgement of Delhi HC

Deeply pained to hear. With full respect to the Hon Court,
this sounds like asking someone to reinvent the wheel when
you have one.

This apart, I 

[AI] Voice cloning, sounds so real

[harish kotian]

Hi

AI has made life interesting and useful in so many ways. On the up side 
we will get to see our TTS sound more real. On the down side, many risks 
to cringe.


Check on this link for a 
demo:https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001v4OIUJwY6XNg2pLa7PpeL3CMIOZPwy8OhxuYjsqvleW8zNFwl63Wlo3AoicIgRlT2-7QNgTTM4CXhIbGd3Dt_iNNqBsJ5Dm13dLso1AaZMPVOhG0R0j2dMSprR0YQyirMRfbl-1VF4HwNgrir_arBFOJ67vYOcpGR223QHIAK5UdBCtJ7s1Wkw===NbJXuN-jiQeX57Bf0mtx9r1jTUl-tt8BhyHb8TsKt24RRlNJsxeFSA===eDZjiijaEPu6ikgvXMFbhx3EBRP3nTi75rIgRSGfFoWQpiBA9ozmuw== 
 



Harish

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Re: [AI] Celebrating 10th anniversary of the Marrakesh Treaty

[harish kotian]

Hi

When we look at it now, 1 decade seems so long ago. We have definitely 
made great strides as a result of this treaty.


Harish


On 6/14/2023 8:51 AM, dipendra.li...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear colleagues, dear friends,
June 27, 2013 was a very special day for millions of people worldwide 
who have difficulties reading print material. The signing of the 
Marrakesh Treaty was the first step in the journey to end the global 
book famine for persons with print disabilities. The ability to share 
books in accessible formats accross borders can greatly increase 
access to reading materials and information.

Less than 10% of the published content is accessible so far.
Join the IFLA Section Libraries Serving Persons with Print 
Disabilities (LPD) and guests in a celebration and exploration of the 
accomplishments, challenges, and future of the Marrakesh Treaty.
In collaboration with the DAISY Consortium we are welcoming on the 
10th anniversary of the Treaty representative persons from IFLA, ABC, 
EIFL, EBU/WBU as well as the first nation signing and the first 
institutions exchanging books within the Marrakesh Treaty among others.


The diverse program promises about 90 minutes of profitable and 
informative exchange.

When? June 27th, 3 pm CET
Just register here to get access: 
https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_CStQegTLSJKMh7xApyLLdw 



We are looking forward meeting you all: That Marrakesh Treaty for all!

LPD in collaboration with the DAISY Consortium

Questions or remarks?
Christiane Felsmann | dzb lesen
c.felsm...@dzblesen.de

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[AI] Revised: AccessIndia convention recording upload- session ontactile 3d paintings by Aishwaria Pillai

[harish kotian]

Hi


Aishwaria Pillai shares her techniques on making paintings. Although 
this presentation was scheduled and could not take place we are happy 
to share it here.


The URL for the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Its direct url is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x6_u60FizM






Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo 
in conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of 
the convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia 
at the convention.


Harish Kotian




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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session ontactile 3d paintings by Aishwaria Pillai

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Hi

Aishwaria Pillai shares her techniques on making paintings. Although 
this presentation was scheduled and could not take place we are happy to 
share it here.


The URL for the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Its direct url is:

www.youtube.com

3D painting-Aishwarya Pillai <#>

Aishwarya Pillai describes the process on how she goes about making 3D 
paintings .


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x6_u60FizM 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x6_u60FizM>



Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo 
in conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of 
the convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at 
the convention.


Harish Kotian





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Re: [AI] Do we get loans from HDFC Bank?

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Hi

Make a recording of the entire conversation and ask them on what basis 
they claim that loans is not given by them to blind persons.



Based on this make a complaint to their top management and RBI.

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On 6/9/2023 9:11 AM, Kakarla Nageswaraiah wrote:

Dear all,

Nowadays, I am getting calls from HDFC representatives offering
personal loans but when I say I am blind, they express regret saying
that they don't offer loans to the blind customers.

I think the calls would continue unless I take a loan from the Bank.

So I want to know whether any of you had taken loan from the HDFC
Bank.  If yes, have you followed any additional procedure for that?
Also, is there any policy document from the Bank on offering their
services to the visually impaired customers?

Thanks and regards.



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Re: [AI] Request for Access India Group for Microsoft Power BI Training

[harish kotian]

Hi Anil

Glad to know about your interest and your passion to succeed in the area 
of PowerBI.



When you break this down, it throws essentially 2 problem areas. 
accessibility and application of BI.


On accessibility front, I guess, it should be reasonably accessible. The 
members here could help you in for it.



On applying it to scenarios, I don't think we can help you nor do I 
expect you  to have any expectation from your side.


All the best in your journey and of course a warm welcome to AccessIndia 
family.


Harish.


On 6/9/2023 12:36 PM, tech and music with anil wrote:

dear access Indian
I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to inquire about the
possibility of access India Group for training on Microsoft Power BI.
I am particularly interested in finding a visually impaired trainer
who can provide guidance and support in learning this powerful data
visualization and business intelligence tool.
Allow me to introduce myself. My name is [Anil Bhandari], and I am a
visually impaired individual who is eager to enhance my skills in
Power BI. I have a deep interest in data analysis and visualization,
and I firmly believe that Power BI can empower me to effectively
interpret and present complex information.
I currently work as [associate trainee] at [vcreatek salution ]. In my
role, I frequently encounter situations where the ability to harness
the power of Power BI would greatly benefit my work. By gaining
expertise in Power BI, I aim to improve decision-making processes,
identify trends, and communicate insights more effectively within my
organization.
As a visually impaired individual, I understand the challenges that
can arise when accessing visual content. However, I am determined to
overcome these obstacles and develop my skills in Power BI. I believe
that with the assistance of an experienced trainer, who understands
the unique needs of visually impaired learners, I can overcome these
challenges and become proficient in Power BI.
I am aware of the importance of accessibility features, and I am
confident that Power BI provides such functionality. Nevertheless,
having direct guidance from a visually impaired trainer who can share
their expertise and insights would greatly enhance my learning
experience.
If there is a visually impaired trainer within the access India group
or if you have any resources or recommendations, I would be immensely
grateful for your assistance in connecting me with them.
Alternatively, if there are any upcoming training sessions, workshops,
or online communities focused on Power BI accessibility, I would
appreciate any information you could provide.
I am committed to dedicating the necessary time and effort to learn
Power BI and apply it effectively in my professional endeavors. Access
India Group would not only provide me with valuable learning
opportunities but also enable me to connect with like-minded
individuals who share a passion for data analysis and visualization.
Thank you for considering my request. I eagerly await your response
and any guidance you can provide. Please let me know if there are any
further steps or requirements I need to follow.
Looking forward to the opportunity to learn from the access
IndiansGroup and its members.
Sincerely,
[Anil Bhandari]
+919623228307



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Re: [AI] Ola asked to make pick-up and drop location selection, driver information accessible within 4 weeks

[harish kotian]

Hi Amar

Although I do resonate with your point of view, business, sales, 
revenue, funding are independent of technology issues most of the times. 
At the core of it, accessibility issues spring from design 
considerations and it requires to be directed. All the other factors are 
not dependent. All these are technology driven companies and therefore 
this should be least of their problems. It requires, just some hand 
holding and willingness. In conclusion, I am of the opinion you should 
not lax in your efforts.


Harish.




On 6/7/2023 8:47 PM, Amar Jain wrote:

Avichal sharing my own personal view and not saying as a co-founder of Mission 
Accessibility.

Rapido at this moment is struggling to keep its business up and running as more 
and more states are becoming a legal hurdle for them to operate. Prominent 
states like Maharashtra, Delhi etc in terms of revenue has become a problem for 
them.

The other side of the story is that these loss making businesses manage to find 
investors for them who are willing to write a cheque. So should we be putting 
our efforts is a question I am struggling to answer for myself.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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On 07-Jun-2023, at 6:47 PM, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:

Really commendable work, kudos to Amar and Rahul!
Please try doing something similar for Rapido.


On 6/7/23, Aravind R  wrote:
nice sir


On 07/06/2023, Amar Jain  wrote:


Apologies-record of proceedings attached. Next hearing tentatively
scheduled for 04.07.2023.


On 07/06/2023 12:50, Amar Jain wrote:
Dear all,

In the ongoing hearing against Ola Cabs before the CCPD, the Court has
asked Ola to make pick-up and drop location selection, along with
driver information accessible in a period of four weeks from
03.06.2023. Further, the company has been asked to prepare a roadmap to
make all its features accessible.

Extremely thankful to my co-founder Rahul Bajaj of Mission
Accessibility for his presence and valuable inputs in the hearing.

Regards,

Amar Jain

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[AI] Moderator: off-topic

[harish kotian]

Hi

Pl respect the list guidelines. This is  off topic.


Traffic on  this is closed.

Harish Kotian

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On 5/30/2023 3:59 AM, rahul agarwal wrote:

hello friends,
i am looking for an apartment at lal bahadur marg/lala lajpat rai road 
near oberoi  hotel in delhi. my requirements are it must be located in 
gated society, full furnished, when i use google gps, it must direct 
me at right location, should have good ambiance. it would be helpful 
if you provide me any leads. kindly provide the same  as soon as possible.


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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on creative writing doable career optionShadab Husain

[harish kotian]

Hi

Shadab Husain shares with us the process of creative writing and 
publishing books. We also have his book launch.




The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India


Direct url:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyyPG4nygqQ 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyyPG4nygqQ>










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Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo 
in conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at 
the convention.


Harish Kotian





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Re: [AI] Problem with NVDA

[harish kotian]

Hi

You can create folder on any of your drive and make a portable copy on 
that folder. Make sure not to select the settings from your existing 
copy. Later you can make a short cut of the executable and run it 
whenever you want.


Harish


On 5/13/2023 7:25 PM, Minar Singh wrote:

sir Can you mention Operating System and which version of NVDA you are
trying to install?

On 5/13/23, Vedprakash Sharma  wrote:

I tried to install NVDA as I had uninstalled it. After successful install,
NVDA is not starting. Hence, none of your suggestions can be applied.

What to do?

I have tried deleting temporary files, disc cleanup etc but no use.



Sent from Mail for Windows



From: Vedprakash Sharma
Sent: 13 May 2023 08:34 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Problem with NVDA



Thanks. I will do it and revert back.



Sent from Mail for Windows



From: Minar Singh
Sent: 11 May 2023 09:14 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem with NVDA



You can change the language to English India or English US. Press

window key and type language then  press enter use tab key and find

the language dropdown press  enter to expand and use down/up arrow key

to select the language English India or English US then press tab key

and find the dropdown for country or region and press enter to expand.

Select India. This should resolve your issue. If you are using NVDA

and want to use English/Hindi keyboard then you can accomplish this by

using Left alt +left shift key. There is no need to change the

keyboard layout in system settings. Hope this helps.



On 5/11/23, Vedprakash Sharma  wrote:


Dear list,
I was setting N V D A language to Hindi. As I did not get any options for
this in the setting menu, I changed the keyboard to Hindi. Now, N V D A is
not reading any menu items. It reads desktop icons which are in english,
but
does not read menu items so that I may change it to default factory
settings.
I have uninstalled, deleted all fines and reinstalled it again but no use.
Please help me.
Sent from Mail for Windows
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Re: [AI] RPWD Amendment Rules 2023-inclusion of BIS standards for ICT Products and Services

[harish kotian]

Certainly. They may not be aware.

Harish


On 5/13/2023 1:16 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:

Hi,
this is great indeed! Can we now present this document to entity such
as our employers etc. to insist upon making internal application
accessible? @mission accessibility team, can the struggle to make
websites and application disable friendly for user agent now easier?


On 5/13/23, harish kotian  wrote:

Hi Amar

Thanks for sharing this very important document.

Our role on advocacy starts now. It is now upon us to enforce
accessibility and dignity.


It is a long wait though, it is never too late.

A huge thanks to all who made it possible.


Harish


On 5/12/2023 3:49 PM, Amar Jain wrote:


Dear all,


It gives me immense pleasure to share the RPWD (Amendment) Rules 2023
which not only includes BIS standards IS17802 parts one and two, but
expands the coverage of ICT accessibility to all the phrases used in
RPWD Act.


Regards,

Amar Jain

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Re: [AI] RPWD Amendment Rules 2023-inclusion of BIS standards for ICT Products and Services

[harish kotian]

Hi Amar

Thanks for sharing this very important document.

Our role on advocacy starts now. It is now upon us to enforce 
accessibility and dignity.



It is a long wait though, it is never too late.

A huge thanks to all who made it possible.


Harish


On 5/12/2023 3:49 PM, Amar Jain wrote:


Dear all,


It gives me immense pleasure to share the RPWD (Amendment) Rules 2023 
which not only includes BIS standards IS17802 parts one and two, but 
expands the coverage of ICT accessibility to all the phrases used in 
RPWD Act.



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Re: [AI] Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind'

[harish kotian]

Mani app should be rejected as inherently failing in basic design and 
operational functionality.


Harish


On 5/11/2023 8:41 AM, prashant...@gmail.com wrote:


What is most essential is to ask the Government to give a commitment 
and timeline for gradually withdrawing all existing notes and 
replacing them with a new series in which sizes and colours are 
distinctly different. This is the only long term solution.


*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
*On Behalf Of *George Abraham

*Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2023 10:19 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Consider report for making coins friendly for the 
blind'


On March 7, 2019, the Prime Minister had release a set of coins  
comprising Rs20/-, Rs10/-, Rs5/-, Rs2/- and Rs1/-. All of them are 
distinctly different to both see and touch. The problem is that the 
RBI or whoever else responsible have not bothered to withdraw the old 
coins. Thus the scenario becomes more chaotic.


George

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
] *On Behalf Of *Kanchan Pamnani

*Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2023 6:43 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* [AI] Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind'

Please send your views on the mani app soon.

Kanchan

Read the report below

‘Consider report for making coins friendly for the blind’ 
rosy.seque...@timesgroup.com Mumbai : Bombay high court said the 
Reserve Bank of India must consider an expert committee’s suggestions 
and recommendations for making currency notes and coins friendly for 
the visually challenged. “It is high time the Reserve Bank of India 
considers it,’’ said Acting Chief Justice Sanjay Gangapurwala and 
Justice Sandeep Marne on May 3. They heard a 2019 PIL by National 
Association for the Blind (NAB) to direct RBI to introduce 
“blind-friendly” currency notes/coins as the new currency and coins 
are difficult to distinguish on touch. In September 2022, RBI said 
Delhi HC had constituted a committee. On May 3, RBI’s advocateDhaval 
Patil said the report had not yet been tabled. “There cannot be any 
dispute that the currency and mints have to be disabled 
user-friendly,’’ they said. They noted that after the PIL was filed, 
RBI came out with some measures and introduced coins that are 
“visually impaired friendly” and a mobile application. Advocate Uday 
Warunjikar, for NAB, said there are some issues with operating the app 
with regard to volume and the app does not work in crowded places and 
on trains and buses. “Respondent (RBI) certainly has to take steps so 
that the visually impaired persons can distinguish the currency. In 
fact, as the committee was already appointed, we are waiting for that 
report, because the same would be the suggestions and /or 
recommendations ofthe experts,” they said. The judges directed that no 
sooner the report is received, it must be submitted to the court or 
else they proceed with the matter on the basis of petition and replies 
as “the matter cannot be adjourned in perpetuity”. They also sought a 
reply on the shortcomings in the app and posted the hearing on June 
23, “as a last chance for the responden


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Re: [AI] Pls subscribe me

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Hi

You are already a member so that is the reason your mail has come on the 
list.


Pl check in your junk folders.

Harish

On 5/8/2023 10:44 PM, optimist@gmail.com wrote:


Madam/Dear Sir,

Pls arrange to subscribe in this access India mailing list immediately.

Thanks & Regards

Jayachandran. T

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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on IAS a doable career option Ajay Arora

[harish kotian]

Hi

A highly inspiring talk by Ajay Arora who is doing great as an IAS 
officer. He is totally blind and he convinces anyone listening to this 
talk that IAS although being the most prestigious job, it can also be 
successfully carried out by a blind person. This is a must watch video 
from the convention for all the members of AccessIndia



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Direct url:






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsiXHT38a34 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsiXHT38a34>








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On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

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Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

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direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

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On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at 
the convention.


Harish Kotian





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Moderator: Re: [AI] Training circular for train the trainer programme:

[harish kotian]

Hello

Please ensure if you are using any other language other than english, 
you need to write the language content in the subject line


eg subject: Content in hindi-

etc.

It is very essential for blind users of the list to use appropriate 
synthesizer to read it if it is relevant to that person.


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On 5/2/2023 11:02 AM, sasikumar s wrote:

நினைவூட்டும் பொருட்டு பகிரப்படுகிறது.

கர்ண வித்யா அமைப்பின் அன்பான வணக்கம்!
பார்வையற்றோருக்கு கணினி பயிற்றுவிக்க ஆர்வமுள்ளவரா நீங்கள்?
அப்படியானால் இந்த தகவல் உங்களுக்கானதே!
பார்வையற்றோருக்கான கணினி பயிற்றுநரை பயிற்றுவிக்கும் பயிற்சிக்கான சுற்றரிக்கை
கடந்த பத்து ஆண்டுகளாக பார்வையற்றவர்களுக்கு கல்வி மற்றும் வேலைசார்
தொழில்நுட்ப பயிற்சிகளை வழங்கி வரும் கர்ண வித்யா குழுமம் தற்போது
பார்வையற்றோருக்கான கணினி பயிற்றுநரை பயிற்றுவிக்கும் பயிற்சியினை தனது
சென்னை பயிற்சி மையத்தில் நேரடி வகுப்புகளாக நடத்த இருக்கிறது.
முக்கிய குறிப்பு;
   பார்வையற்றோருக்கான கணினி பயிற்றுநராக பணிபுரிய விருப்பமுள்ளவர்கள்
மட்டுமே இப்பயிற்சிக்கு விண்ணப்பிக்கவும்.
   திரைவாசிப்பான் உதவியோடு கணினியை  இயக்கும் கணினி பயிற்சி
முடித்திருத்தல் அவசியம்.
   அடிப்படைக் கணினி மற்றும் MS word, Excel, Power point and Google apps
தலைப்புகளில் நன்கு பயிற்சி பெற்றிருத்தல் அவசியம்.
   ஆங்கிலத்தில் எழுத பேசத்தெரிந்திருத்தல் அவசியம்.
   நேர்முக மற்றும் கணினித் தேர்வில் வெற்றிபெறும் விண்ணப்பதாரர்கள்
மட்டுமே பயிற்சியில் அனுமதிக்கப்படுவார்கள்.
   சிறப்பாக செயல்படும் பயிற்றுநர்கள் பணியமர்த்த வழிகாட்டப்படுவார்கள்.
ஆர்வமுள்ள special educator அவர்களிடமிருந்தும் விண்ணப்பங்கள் வரவேற்கப்படுகின்றன.

இப்பயிற்சிக்கு முன்பதிவு செய்ய கீழே  உள்ள மின்படிவத்தினை பூர்த்தி செய்யவும்.
https://forms.gle/DP7JLzAEboQur23u7
பயிற்சி குரித்த விவரம்:
   பயிற்சியின் பெயர்; கணினி பயிற்றுனரை பயிற்றுவிக்கும் பயிற்சி (train
the computer trainer).
   பார்வையற்ற  கணினி பயிற்றுநருக்கான பணிநாடுவோர் மட்டுமே பயிற்சியில்
கலந்துகொள்ள இயலும்.
   # பயிற்சி காலம்  : 03/05/2023 முதல் 30/06/2023 வரை
   # பயிற்சி நடைபெறும் நாட்கள் : திங்கள் முதல் சனிக்கிழமை வரை
வாரத்திற்கு ஆறு  நாட்கள்.
   # பயிற்சி நேரம் : காலை 10 மணி முதல் மாலை 5 மணி வரை.
   # பயிற்சி வகுப்புகள் நேரடி வகுப்புகளாக மட்டுமே நடைபெறும்.
   # பதிவுசெய்ய இறுதி நாள்; 26/04/2023.
   # முதலில் விண்ணப்பிக்கும் 15 நபர்கள் மட்டுமே பயிற்சியில்
அனுமதிக்கப்படுவார்கள்.
   உணவு மற்றும் தங்குமிடம் விண்ணப்பதாரர்களே ஏற்பாடுசெய்துகொள்ள வேண்டும்.
   
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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on Dr. Charudutta Jadav

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

This time we dive into the life of Dr. Charudutta Jadav who has been a 
source of inspiration in reaching great heights despite loosing his sight.



The link to the channel is:


https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India


Direct url:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77hLKwlJWck=1s





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Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at 
the convention.


Harish Kotian





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off-topic Re: [AI] Income Tax department sends notices over donations to charitable trusts

[Harish Kotian]

This info is not connected with disability. Pl take care to understand 
the scope of the list.


Regards

Harish Kotian


On 18/04/2023 12:31, avinash shahi wrote:

The income tax department in India has issued notices to around 8,000
taxpayers on account of them making large donations to charitable
trusts, which are believed to be attempts to evade paying tax. Tax
officials say that these individuals and entities have made donations
not commensurate with their earnings, while the donated amount is the
exact sum required to get an exemption or lower the tax slab.
Officials are now investigating independent tax  ..

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/income-tax-department-sends-notices-over-donations-to-charitable-trusts/articleshow/99570518.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest_medium=text_campaign=cppst




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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on RPD

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

Mission Accessibility team's panel discussion on The RPD generation.

A enthralling discussion touching various aspects of the RPD and how to 
take benefit of it. Rajesh Asudani joins in the Q


A must watch for all interested parties.

The link to the channel is:


https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India



Direct url:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsIyKv2kJzc

This is the 6th video on the AccessIndia convention.


Regards

Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian





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Re: [AI] help requested.

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

In case you are using NVDA, use it with addons disabled. For that you 
can press insert q and in the option select restart with addons. It will 
hold good for only that instance.


Secondly you can increase Ram to about 16 gb if it is possible

Thirdly you can also think of using SSD

If you OS is installed long back, you can consider reinstalling the OS.

Harish


On 15/04/2023 21:17, Siva Suresh wrote:

firstly dual core processer is very slow and slowly MS office 2007 is
becoming outdated. my best suggestion is to update yourself to a
recent MS office to overcome this challenge.
Thank you. Shivasuresh

On 4/15/23, pranaya rani  wrote:

I am using a dual core pc with ms office 2007.  After typing letters in ms
word, while trying to do spellcheck, using f7, it says ms word is not
responding, wait for the program to respond or close the program.  Kindly
suggest to overcome this issue. Pranaya

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Re: [AI] New Parliament library logsabha getting inaugurated tomorrow

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Hi

This is interesting. The membership cannot be individual, then it ought 
to be inter-library. If this is the case then the books available in 
this library can therefore be shared with Sugamyapustakalaya on a 
reciprocity basis.



Can someone confirm this? Can we start with the catalog list of titles 
available in the parliament library?


Harish


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They have just joined Sugamya Pustakalaya and can provide all the books 
available there to any person with print disability.

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Subject: [AI] New Parliament library logsabha getting inaugurated tomorrow

Dear Friends,
I am pleased to share that new logsabha parliament library is getting 
inaugurated tomorrow.  This library is inclusive as they have  major assistive 
technology such as screen reader, scanner and braille output, etc .
I think that authority are considering providing print materials in braile.
I was initially contacted by Mr. Dinesh Tripathy Sir, former MP Rajyasabha and 
former Railway Minister and Dipendra manachan Sir provided his expertese and 
feels great that we are witnessing positive outcome.
If anyone in Delhi interested in visiting; I would be happy to facilitate as it 
requires prior approval.
Jai Hind!!!
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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on yoga for the visually disabled

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Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
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Fwd: [AI] Chat-gpt response on a query how to make a blind person understand the concept of colours

[Harish Kotian]

I suppose my response did not hit the list, so I am re sending.

Harish





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Subject: 	Re: [AI] Chat-gpt response on a query how to make a blind 
person understand the concept of colours

Date:   Fri, 7 Apr 2023 10:03:16 +0530
From:   Harish Kotian 
To: 	Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) , 
accessindia@accessindia.org.in




Hi Yamuna

CG is a text based engine. We give text to our emotions. meaning we 
experience emotions like love etc. the consciousness of emotion is 
different than the text based association with emotion.



The CG probably learns the different ways the emotions are used and 
based on the learning it may be manipulating it in different ways.



Undoubtedly, the output it throws out is frighteningly human like. It 
will not be possible to distinguish a machine output with a human 
generated output.



I have now been using it to learn various things and the learning is 
definitely great. It is now my learned teacher who knows all and has the 
capability to explain in a way I can comprehend easily.



As our perception of things is now primarily textual, CG can be put to 
good use.



I don't think you need to jump into a conclusion regarding the faith you 
are holding and CG is no competitor. The more you use it, you will find 
certain patterns of its output.


Harish


On 06/04/2023 17:41, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) wrote:

Harish Bhai!
No way! I cannot believe it! Are you sure you did not write that 
excellent poem yourself?
This effort requires appreciation of human emotion such as “love” and 
“hope”. Something not conscious in the way we are, cannot use those 
concepts in such creatively and knowing ways. You have to actually 
realize these feelings to do that, not so?
I mean, in the same way that a blind person from birth cannot properly 
express the subtleties of colours in a poem until they are directly 
given associations with other sensory experiences to compare? And 
since a non-living entity does not have any sensory and what to speak 
of emotional experience (realization), then how can it do what you 
just described, is completely frightening.

Does it now experience human consciousness?
If so that would destroy the very foundation of my faith: that God is 
the only designer of consciousness.

Surely it cannot be consciously experiencing anything, to do what it does?
Please say how then can it do this otherwise!
For now I’m shocked so severely that my emotions are affected and my 
breathing has actually become shallow on reading this poem, as if 
someone has just nocked the wind out of my stomach.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa
*From:* Harish Kotian <mailto:hpkot...@outlook.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 06, 2023 4:51 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) 
<mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Chat-gpt response on a query how to make a blind 
person understand the concept of colours


Hi

You are correct in your comments. However, Chat-gpt is expected to 
understand natural language and makes necessary allowances. However, 
it correctly understood the intend and responded correctly.


Ketan and others- it too admitted it is not possible to give an exact 
experience however it did best to put across the points in the best 
ways possible.


The important point was did it make any headway at all in 
comprehending this concept. Were the examples helpful at all?


I was sort of trying to test its capability. I asked it to write a 
poetry on 'celebrating emptyness'.


I suppose it would have found very little in terms of learning from 
earlier responses as there would have been very little to fall back on 
a topic like this which as a topic is difficult to catch in the first 
place.


Hold on for a moment and think what you would have come up with this 
topic.


now compare with its response:

Here are the lines with Chat  GPT has penned. I have already done a 
google search and plagiarism check.

Sure, here's a poem that celebrates emptiness:

Emptiness, a blank canvas, unadorned
A space for growth, a chance to be reborn
A void to fill, a space to create
A world of possibility, it's ours to make

It's not a emptiness of loss or lack
But one of hope, a second chance at back
A space to breathe, to start anew
A chance to see what you can do

Emptiness, a space for the soul
A place to grow, to find a goal
A journey ahead, with endless dreams
A world of hope, or so it seems

So let us embrace this emptiness with pride
And fill it with love, from deep inside
A new beginning, a chance to thrive
Emptiness, a gift for which to strive.

Harish


On 05/04/2023 17:52, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) wrote:

Dear Harish Bhai,
Very nice explanation. However I would reconsider words like 
“understand” and “Comprehend”, replacing those with words like 
“associations” or “Analogy” Etc.
I say this because we must be clear to the sighted world, and even 
the totally blind who have seen before, that it is currently not 
possible to a

Re: [AI] Chat-gpt response on a query how to make a blind person understand the concept of colours

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

You are correct in your comments. However, Chat-gpt is expected to 
understand natural language and makes necessary allowances. However, it 
correctly understood the intend and responded correctly.



Ketan and others- it too admitted it is not possible to give an exact 
experience however it did best to put across the points in the best ways 
possible.



The important point was did it make any headway at all in comprehending 
this concept. Were the examples helpful at all?



I was sort of trying to test its capability. I asked it to write a 
poetry on 'celebrating emptyness'.


 I suppose it would have found very little in terms of learning from 
earlier responses as there would have been very little to fall back on a 
topic like this which as a topic is difficult to catch in the first place.


 Hold on for a moment and think what you would have come up with this 
topic.


now compare with its response:

Here are the lines with Chat  GPT has penned. I have already done a 
google search and plagiarism check.

Sure, here's a poem that celebrates emptiness:

Emptiness, a blank canvas, unadorned
A space for growth, a chance to be reborn
A void to fill, a space to create
A world of possibility, it's ours to make

It's not a emptiness of loss or lack
But one of hope, a second chance at back
A space to breathe, to start anew
A chance to see what you can do

Emptiness, a space for the soul
A place to grow, to find a goal
A journey ahead, with endless dreams
A world of hope, or so it seems

So let us embrace this emptiness with pride
And fill it with love, from deep inside
A new beginning, a chance to thrive
Emptiness, a gift for which to strive.

Harish


On 05/04/2023 17:52, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) wrote:

Dear Harish Bhai,
Very nice explanation. However I would reconsider words like 
“understand” and “Comprehend”, replacing those with words like 
“associations” or “Analogy” Etc.
I say this because we must be clear to the sighted world, and even the 
totally blind who have seen before, that it is currently not possible 
to allow a blind-from-birth person to actually realize by experience 
the concept of colour. At best we can make associations with other 
sensory experiences we do know. My personal experience is that they 
just can’t imagine it that our brains do not realize the experience at 
all, and so we cannot imagine the actual experience even in our minds 
or in dreams. They are often blown away and can’t comprehend the 
extent that we cannot know by actual realization, in as much as our 
minds are blown away when we think of trying to have the actual 
experience of colour.
One time back in South Africa, I was trying to explain my difficulty 
of realizing relative North in a known spacial context without clearly 
having another direction defined to me.
I struggled to help this totally blind, formally sighted friend 
appreciate how I do not have much of a mental map in my head. He 
couldn’t see my point, and I gently let it go. Now having said that, 
there are other born-blind people who seem to have a far better 
spacial dimension than I do, so perhaps it’s just my own shortcoming. 
I leave that to think about.

Nice discussion. Thanks.
Yamuna Jivana Dasa
*From:* Harish Kotian <mailto:hpkot...@outlook.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 05, 2023 5:34 PM
*To:* AccessIndia:a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning thedisabled. <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
*Subject:* [AI] Chat-gpt response on a query how to make a blind 
person understand the concept of colours


Hi

An interesting response to the captioned query:

Understanding the concept of colors for a person who is blind from 
birth or has severe visual impairments can be challenging. However, 
there are several ways in which a blind person can comprehend colors:

1.
Associating colors with other sensory experiences: Colors can be 
associated with sounds, tastes, textures, and smells. For example, red 
can be associated with the taste of spicy food or the sound of a trumpet.

2.
Learning color names through verbal description: A sighted person can 
describe colors to a blind person using words such as "red is warm 
like fire" or "blue is cool like water."

3.
Touch-based systems: There are various touch-based systems, such as 
raised line drawings, tactile graphics, and Braille labels, that can 
help a blind person understand colors. These systems use different 
textures or shapes to represent different colors.

4.
Technology: With the advancement of technology, there are now devices 
such as color recognition apps, which can help a blind person identify 
colors. These apps use a smartphone camera to detect and identify 
colors and announce them through audio output.
Overall, understanding colors for a blind person may require 
creativity, patience, and an openness to different ways of 
experiencing the world.


Harish

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[AI] Chat-gpt response on a query how to make a blind person understand the concept of colours

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

An interesting response to the captioned query:

Understanding the concept of colors for a person who is blind from birth 
or has severe visual impairments can be challenging. However, there are 
several ways in which a blind person can comprehend colors:

1.
Associating colors with other sensory experiences: Colors can be 
associated with sounds, tastes, textures, and smells. For example, red 
can be associated with the taste of spicy food or the sound of a trumpet.

2.
Learning color names through verbal description: A sighted person can 
describe colors to a blind person using words such as "red is warm like 
fire" or "blue is cool like water."

3.
Touch-based systems: There are various touch-based systems, such as 
raised line drawings, tactile graphics, and Braille labels, that can 
help a blind person understand colors. These systems use different 
textures or shapes to represent different colors.

4.
Technology: With the advancement of technology, there are now devices 
such as color recognition apps, which can help a blind person identify 
colors. These apps use a smartphone camera to detect and identify colors 
and announce them through audio output.
Overall, understanding colors for a blind person may require creativity, 
patience, and an openness to different ways of experiencing the world.


 Harish

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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on entrepreneur being visually disabled

[Harish Kotian]

All


I have now uploaded the 4th video from the AI convention.

panel Moderator – Preetham Sunkavalli , Panelist- Sushmeetha Bubna, 
Gaurav Godbole Paresh Satra

Ankur Kankonkar


Presently there is a thread going on the same topic

The link to the channel is:


https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKd88DacZ04


Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian





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Re: [AI] A Tale Of Two Ereaders: The Good News Launched By NLS

[Harish Kotian]

Hi Dipendra

Agree with you fully. While reading the article, what I found not good 
about these products is the inability of editing or writing. Secondly 
excluding audio. For providing  both it would not have incurred anything 
extra, if they had included it would be more useful.


Harish



On 27/03/2023 18:59, dipendra.li...@gmail.com wrote:

The article below is in the latest edition of Access Braille Magazine. This is 
a perfect example of how bulk purchase of a product by the government can bring 
cost down for everyone and get a product in hands of thousands of users. I  can 
only imagine and dream that one day Indian government may decide to put 1 
braille displays in the hands of users in one year. We can drive the 
specifications and get the RBD of our own specifications and requirement at an 
affordable cost. This is what NLS did.

https://afb.org/aw/24/3/18242

A Tale Of Two Ereaders: The Good News Launched By NLS
Deborah Kendrick
For most of us, March 2020 will always evoke the memory of lockdown, 
quarantines, masks and all of the other traumatizing changes wrought by the 
onset of the Coronavirus pandemic. But there were positive events taking place 
in March 2020 as well, and the one that stamped its most indelible memory on a 
few of us doing work for the National Library Service for the Blind and Print 
Disabled was the launch of the NLS Braille eReader Pilot.
A Little History
In the summer of 2013, a conference was held in Watertown, Mass. that would 
bring significant changes to the delivery of braille materials by the NLS. The 
Braille Summit was a think tank of sorts, bringing together braille teachers, 
braille readers, braille producers and other lovers of braille to dig in and 
brainstorm the future and promotion of braille. One significant idea that came 
from that intense conversation was that putting a refreshable braille device in 
the hands of all braille readers would encourage the reading of braille and 
provide braille material in a more equitable fashion to blind people. Rather 
than long waiting lists for a finite number of braille copies of a single book, 
an infinite number of readers could download that book to read and choose their 
own time for reading it. Many braille readers had been downloading books for 
years by 2013, but refreshable braille displays are costly and were therefore 
not available to all.
Fast forward just five years to an amazing appropriation by the United States 
Congress, a one-time appropriation of five million dollars in order for NLS to 
launch the eReader pilot. Bids went out. Two products were selected, and in 
March 2020, seven of us began putting these machines through their paces. 
Spearheaded by Tamara Rorie, head of the Patron Engagement Section of the 
National Library Service for the Blind and Print Disabled, the pilot is now a 
program, the two eReaders have been distributed to 40 of the 50 states, and the 
plan is for all states to have received their units by the end of 2023.
Two Machines, One Set of Functions
Certainly, there are differences between the two eReaders. They look and feel 
distinctly different from one another. There are some distinctions in features 
and performance. The important takeaway, however, is that they are both 
powerful machines designed to do the same job: Display and download books and 
magazines from the National library Service for the Blind and Print Disabled. 
And both do that job extremely well! One is from Zoomax; the other is from 
HumanWare. I'll first provide an overview of their physical appearances, and 
then a more detailed analyses of features and functions.
Physical Description
Both NLS eReaders are small enough to fit into most typical backpacks, tote 
bags, or purses. The Zoomax measures 8 inches wide, 5 inches deep, and 1.5 
inches tall. The HumanWare eReader is from one-half inch to one inch smaller in 
every dimension. Both machines have 20 braille cells, with 20 accompanying 
cursor routing buttons. Both have long battery life. Both are charged via a 
USB-C port. Both have powerful wifi and Bluetooth capabilities. Both have 16GB 
internal memory, and both are designed to accommodate additional storage via SD 
card and/or USB flash drive.
Each eReader ships with the following accessories: a custom carrying case and 
lanyard; a USB-C cable and power block for charging; a USB-A cable for 
connecting an NLS-style cartridge, and a hardcopy braille user's guide.
HumanWare
The HumanWare eReader has the eight-dot Perkins-style keyboard (the six braille 
keys plus Backspace and Enter), on top, in a slightly curved arrangement 
believed to be more ergonomic. Directly in front of the keys are the 20 cursor 
routing buttons (which feel like large round dots), Followed by the 20 8-dot 
braille cells. Finally, at the front of the top surface, at its center, are two 
space bars.
On the front edge of the unit are four evenly spaced rectangular thumb keys, 
with one round Selector button in 

Re: [AI] parliamentary standing committee preport

[Harish Kotian]

Thanks for sharing this report.

It gives a comprehensive picture  of the government efforts and the data.

I was particularly concerned with high illiteracy levels.This is the 
primary tool to dampen the ill effects of disability.



Surprised UDID figures is impressive.


I suppose, it is important for all of us to go through this report 
carefully.



Harish



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https://loksabhadocs.nic.in/lsscommittee/Social%20Justice%20&%20Empowerment/17_Social_Justice_And_Empowerment_45.pdf 


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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload

[Harish Kotian]

All

I have now uploaded the 3rd video from the AI convention this morning.

Hetal Mehta, a dietitian, walks us through leading a healthy lifestyle.


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India


Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian





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