Re: [AI] CCPD and accessibility

2017-01-18 Thread Santosh Singh 
The CCPD court is handled by Babus and don't expect them to be very
sensitive to problems faced by the Visually impaired. They correspond by
letters like any Govt body. You are lucky to have received an email reply.
In my 2 years of followup i never received an email reply.

Plus this court has very limited power although many higher courts have
given it status of civil court.Recently Delhi high court has ordered CCPD
court can not decide matters of promotion.
I have even heard from a lawyer that CCPD court can not order remedical
board in recruitment disputes.

One of the employee of office of CCPD has confided that we only try to
interpret the existing rules to arrive at a decision but if the case
demands to challenge/contest an existing rule of govt then you will have to
approach the high court.
At a personal level they understand and acknowledge our problems but they
are helpless as the present as well as the new disability act doesn't
provide them enough teeth to address such problems.

So my suggestion is to directly approach CAT or  High court
On 17 Jan 2017 9:39 pm, "Kartik Sawhney"  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have been helping a friend pursue a case with the CCPD regarding his
university, and it is appalling that the documents that are sent by
the commission are completely inaccessible. Even though we could use
OCR to convert the document and somehow understand it, we sent them a
letter, hoping that they would be alerted to this, and would figure
out a more accessible solution than sending scanned copies of letters
in the future. To the very contrary, they sent another reply to our
email, which is again completely inaccessible. When an organization
that works for people with disabilities behaves like this, I don't
know what to expect from the others. I realize there's no point just
criticizing it, and I'm hoping to write an email to them again-I just
couldn't resist sharing.

Best,
--
-Kartik Sawhney,
+1-(510) 766-3419
linkedin.com/in/kartiksawhney/


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Re: [AI] CCPD and accessibility

2017-01-17 Thread Kanchan Pamnani 
Is it not time to sue our own Ministry? 
On another note- most people who have got orders from CCPD on accessibility
of others have not enforced their orders. So its time to get the big guys
directly. It is time to bell the cat. Who is going to do it?
Kanchan

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Subject: [AI] CCPD and accessibility

Hi everyone,

I have been helping a friend pursue a case with the CCPD regarding his
university, and it is appalling that the documents that are sent by the
commission are completely inaccessible. Even though we could use OCR to
convert the document and somehow understand it, we sent them a letter,
hoping that they would be alerted to this, and would figure out a more
accessible solution than sending scanned copies of letters in the future. To
the very contrary, they sent another reply to our email, which is again
completely inaccessible. When an organization that works for people with
disabilities behaves like this, I don't know what to expect from the others.
I realize there's no point just criticizing it, and I'm hoping to write an
email to them again-I just couldn't resist sharing.

Best,
--
-Kartik Sawhney,
+1-(510) 766-3419
linkedin.com/in/kartiksawhney/


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Re: [AI] CCPD and accessibility

2017-01-17 Thread deepak singla 
Hell
This happens even with the Ministry of Social Justice's site too..
I have written several times to CCPD as well as the Ministry for
making at least their own Websites and communications accessible but
all inVAIN
Almost all the docs uploaded by CCPD on their websites in pdf format
are inaccessible with the screen reading softwares.
I am not able to find what to do and how? but really pathetic to see
such things happening in the organisations working for the persons
with disabilities.


On 1/17/17, li...@srinivasu.org  wrote:
> Fully agreed Kartik. During my stint at Yahoo, we have helped re-building
> their website and even educated them at that point in time about accessible
> documents.
>
> I believe ministry should begin accessible India campaign right from their
> offices.
>
> I shall as well write an email to them.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 17-Jan-2017, at 21:31, Kartik Sawhney 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have been helping a friend pursue a case with the CCPD regarding his
>> university, and it is appalling that the documents that are sent by
>> the commission are completely inaccessible. Even though we could use
>> OCR to convert the document and somehow understand it, we sent them a
>> letter, hoping that they would be alerted to this, and would figure
>> out a more accessible solution than sending scanned copies of letters
>> in the future. To the very contrary, they sent another reply to our
>> email, which is again completely inaccessible. When an organization
>> that works for people with disabilities behaves like this, I don't
>> know what to expect from the others. I realize there's no point just
>> criticizing it, and I'm hoping to write an email to them again-I just
>> couldn't resist sharing.
>>
>> Best,
>> --
>> -Kartik Sawhney,
>> +1-(510) 766-3419
>> linkedin.com/in/kartiksawhney/
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] CCPD and accessibility

2017-01-17 Thread li...@srinivasu.org 
Fully agreed Kartik. During my stint at Yahoo, we have helped re-building their 
website and even educated them at that point in time about accessible 
documents. 

I believe ministry should begin accessible India campaign right from their 
offices. 

I shall as well write an email to them. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone

> On 17-Jan-2017, at 21:31, Kartik Sawhney  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have been helping a friend pursue a case with the CCPD regarding his
> university, and it is appalling that the documents that are sent by
> the commission are completely inaccessible. Even though we could use
> OCR to convert the document and somehow understand it, we sent them a
> letter, hoping that they would be alerted to this, and would figure
> out a more accessible solution than sending scanned copies of letters
> in the future. To the very contrary, they sent another reply to our
> email, which is again completely inaccessible. When an organization
> that works for people with disabilities behaves like this, I don't
> know what to expect from the others. I realize there's no point just
> criticizing it, and I'm hoping to write an email to them again-I just
> couldn't resist sharing.
> 
> Best,
> -- 
> -Kartik Sawhney,
> +1-(510) 766-3419
> linkedin.com/in/kartiksawhney/
> 
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[AI] CCPD and accessibility

2017-01-17 Thread Kartik Sawhney 
Hi everyone,

I have been helping a friend pursue a case with the CCPD regarding his
university, and it is appalling that the documents that are sent by
the commission are completely inaccessible. Even though we could use
OCR to convert the document and somehow understand it, we sent them a
letter, hoping that they would be alerted to this, and would figure
out a more accessible solution than sending scanned copies of letters
in the future. To the very contrary, they sent another reply to our
email, which is again completely inaccessible. When an organization
that works for people with disabilities behaves like this, I don't
know what to expect from the others. I realize there's no point just
criticizing it, and I'm hoping to write an email to them again-I just
couldn't resist sharing.

Best,
-- 
-Kartik Sawhney,
+1-(510) 766-3419
linkedin.com/in/kartiksawhney/


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